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Mike Gonidakis, the president of the anti-abortion group Ohio Right to Life, declined to comment on the bill, and said he was still reading the legislation because, it’s “approximately 700 pages long”. He said his office is “taking off the rest of the week for Thanksgiving”.

Mandark · « **Reply #45012 on:** December 02, 2019, 07:03:35 PM »

Quote from: Esch on December 02, 2019, 06:41:34 PM

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1200456808617463810

Everyday I thank God for my free and anti-totalitarian democratic society

I expected this to be a complete dead-end bill sponsored by some crank, but turns out it's being cosponsored by more than a third of the Republican members.

benjipwns · « **Reply #45013 on:** December 02, 2019, 07:29:53 PM »

Quote from: https://thebulwark.com/this-is-the-single-best-argument-for-why-trump-should-be-impeached-and-removed/

Even before formal articles of impeachment are drawn up, the proper result is clear: Donald Trump should be removed from office and disqualified from holding office again in the future. Mere impeachment is not enough.

Trump should be removed and disqualified from office for the precise set of reasons our Constitution’s Framers created this extraordinary process

...

Ironically for Trump’s defenders, their argument that this should be decided at the ballot box in the next election reveals precisely why he must be removed from office and disqualified from running again.

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Other than denying him the Republican party nomination, impeachment by the House and removal and disqualification by the Senate is the only remedy.

How would this even work?

Mandark · « **Reply #45014 on:** December 02, 2019, 07:38:20 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on December 02, 2019, 07:29:53 PM

How would this even work?

the senate would vote on it

it's in the constitution

nachobro · « **Reply #45015 on:** December 02, 2019, 07:46:46 PM »

deciding the result before the trial? how cardassian

benjipwns · « **Reply #45016 on:** December 02, 2019, 08:05:32 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on December 02, 2019, 07:38:20 PM

the senate would vote on it

it's in the constitution

No, I know, but I mean how could the Senate supersede the Constitution's qualifications clause in a case where it's separately established. Surely the Senate cannot, simply by a majority vote, add additional qualifications required for holding the Presidency.

It seems like a case where the Senate's power of sentence would not extend. (Another would be in the case of the House and Senate as they have sole control over who can sit in their body beyond the Constitutional qualifications.)

Mandark · « **Reply #45017 on:** December 02, 2019, 08:11:31 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on December 02, 2019, 08:05:32 PM

Surely the Senate cannot, simply by a majority vote, add additional qualifications required for holding the Presidency.

they can disqualify a particular person from holding office as the result of an impeachment trial

seems p straightforward the way they wrote it

Mandark · « **Reply #45018 on:** December 02, 2019, 08:18:03 PM »

article 1 section 3 paragraph 7

benjipwns · « **Reply #45019 on:** December 02, 2019, 08:24:49 PM »

Right, again I'm saying I'm not sure that this power can truly extend to literally all offices where there's Constitutional qualifications. I'm not even sure it can apply to say, judgeships, as it seems to be binding future Senates.

Occam · « **Reply #45020 on:** December 02, 2019, 09:01:20 PM »

And in today's banana-republic news:
"Barr disputes key inspector general finding about FBI’s Russia investigation"
(WaPo)
That's right folks, he disputes the findings of the investigation he ordered (I wonder why, considering according to Barr the Muller report exonerated Trump and presumably the Russians). Unfortunately for him, reality refused to change.

That American two party system where one party is outright criminal is awesome. Truly the greatest democracy on earth. Such checks, much balances!

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #45021 on:** December 02, 2019, 09:04:37 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on December 02, 2019, 04:33:12 PM

https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1199500921060909057

It's me, Lou Dobbs @LouDobbs #Dobbs

nachobro · « **Reply #45022 on:** December 02, 2019, 09:25:52 PM »

https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1199493036478205952

Occam · « **Reply #45023 on:** December 02, 2019, 09:34:07 PM »

Quote from: Stro on December 02, 2019, 09:03:27 PM

Pompeo also said that the impeachment investigations should be put on pause while Trump is out of the country because it wouldn't be fair or something

Does Trump's refusal to cooperate require physical proximity?
And he obviously has enough stooges to obstruct justice in his stead during his absence.

Mandark · « **Reply #45024 on:** December 02, 2019, 09:34:35 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on December 02, 2019, 08:24:49 PM

Right, again I'm saying I'm not sure that this power can truly extend to literally all offices where there's Constitutional qualifications. I'm not even sure it can apply to say, judgeships, as it seems to be binding future Senates.

you forgot about that part of the consitution and went for what looked like an easy dunk on the bulwark guy and now instead of saying "haha oops" you're pretending you meant something else (in which case "simple majority" for an impeachment trial ruling? c'mon son)

anyways after 10 seconds of googling I found this

Quote

WASHINGTON — The Senate on Wednesday found Judge G. Thomas Porteous Jr. of Federal District Court in Louisiana guilty on four articles of impeachment and removed him from the bench, the first time the Senate has ousted a federal judge in more than two decades.

Judge Porteous, the eighth federal judge to be removed from office in this manner, was impeached by the House in March on four articles stemming from charges that he received cash and favors from lawyers who had dealings in his court, used a false name to elude creditors and intentionally misled the Senate during his confirmation proceedings.

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The senators also voted 94 to 2 to disqualify him from holding future federal office.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #45025 on:** December 02, 2019, 09:38:22 PM »

No one’s ever deserved their participation trophy more than Trump.

benjipwns · « **Reply #45026 on:** December 02, 2019, 10:11:10 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on December 02, 2019, 09:34:35 PM

you forgot about that part of the consitution and went for what looked like an easy dunk on the bulwark guy and now instead of saying "haha oops" you're pretending you meant something else (in which case "simple majority" for an impeachment trial ruling? c'mon son)

anyways after 10 seconds of googling I found this

I'm pretty sure only the conviction has to be two-thirds majority, not any of the sentencing components.

And yes, I'm aware the Senate has done it (three times in total) I'm saying the Senate may not have unlimited power in this regard, especially when it comes to Constitutional offices. Being able to bar someone from the Presidency or the House seems problematic to me no matter what a Bill Weld campaign adviser may say.

agrajag · « **Reply #45027 on:** December 02, 2019, 11:02:55 PM »

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1201564299904376832

queue dufus post about how the Onion sucks and hasn't been funny in years

benjipwns · « **Reply #45028 on:** December 02, 2019, 11:04:51 PM »

https://twitter.com/noahthedubois/status/1201517801145610246

benjipwns · « **Reply #45029 on:** December 03, 2019, 12:27:17 AM »

Quote

Nine years ago Mr. Wilkinson broke away from the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, then headed by David Duke of New Orleans, and re-incoporated the Invisible Empire, which had first been chartered in 1915.

Splitter!

team filler · « **Reply #45030 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:45:14 AM »

https://twitter.com/ifuckinsuck92/status/1201652550157520898

Nintex · « **Reply #45031 on:** December 03, 2019, 03:08:08 AM »

Quote from: Stro on December 02, 2019, 09:44:31 PM

Quote from: Occam on December 02, 2019, 09:34:07 PM
Quote from: Stro on December 02, 2019, 09:03:27 PM
Pompeo also said that the impeachment investigations should be put on pause while Trump is out of the country because it wouldn't be fair or something
Does Trump's refusal to cooperate require physical proximity?
And he obviously has enough stooges to obstruct justice in his stead during his absence.

I believe the plan is to not show up, not send any of his lawyers to any of the hearings so he can forever claim it was an unfair trial and also probably hoping some of the more bitch made Dems will feel squeamish voting to impeach/remove due to the OPTICS.

It will continue to further his narrative of being so helpless, defenseless, and picked on despite being the single most powerful human being on earth.

There is a plan

Tasty · « **Reply #45032 on:** December 03, 2019, 08:45:32 AM »

Quote from: filler on December 03, 2019, 02:45:14 AM

https://twitter.com/ifuckinsuck92/status/1201652550157520898

Maybe everyone sucks and libs call everyone out equally?

Occam · « **Reply #45033 on:** December 03, 2019, 09:14:27 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on December 02, 2019, 11:02:55 PM

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1201564299904376832

queue dufus post about how the Onion sucks and hasn't been funny in years

Quote

"But going forward, my message to black Americans is that I want your vote now that I know that you have one.” Buttigieg added that in order to avoid alienating potential supporters, he would be open to not letting black people vote.

Hahaha.

NB, Buttface is a worse candidate than even Bloomberg.

benjipwns · « **Reply #45034 on:** December 03, 2019, 12:32:04 PM »

This is how the power brokers thwarted the people to give James Madison the party nomination over James Monroe!

benjipwns · « **Reply #45035 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:05:43 PM »

Quote

Kamala Harris is dropping out of the presidential race, she told staff on a call Tuesday. She will release a video momentarily announcing her plans.

agrajag · « **Reply #45036 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:11:59 PM »

itshappening.gif

nachobro · « **Reply #45037 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:12:55 PM »

Tripon · « **Reply #45038 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:16:37 PM »

The funny thing is that this probably her last chance. Gavin Newsom is going to pretend he's a popular governor and run in 2024, no matter who wins.

https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1201926640256847873

Back to the Jews being white again, I see.

Tasty · « **Reply #45039 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:17:02 PM »

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/03/kamala-harris-drops-out-out-of-presidential-race-074902

Tripon · « **Reply #45040 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:19:47 PM »

https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1201927582893182976

_____

Meanwhile, John Delaney....

https://twitter.com/JohnDelaney/status/1199454399766159360

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #45041 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:22:27 PM »

Anyone have a breakdown of where her .01% of supporters will go? This could be a huge boon for Biden.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #45042 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:35:10 PM »

Based Slayer Tusli

Next!

Tripon · « **Reply #45043 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:40:47 PM »

https://twitter.com/bferrigno/status/1201897907861049344

About a hour before Harris quit.

Himu · « **Reply #45044 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:43:37 PM »

YES NO MORE HARRIS

benjipwns · « **Reply #45045 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:45:43 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on December 03, 2019, 01:40:47 PM

About a hour before Harris quit.

They cancelled this fundraiser (minimum donation $500) just a few hours before too:

Himu · « **Reply #45046 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:46:01 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on December 03, 2019, 01:16:37 PM

The funny thing is that this probably her last chance. Gavin Newsom is going to pretend he's a popular governor and run in 2024, no matter who wins.

https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1201926640256847873

Back to the Jews being white again, I see.

Why post SJW dogshit, Trip?

IDpol

Himu · « **Reply #45047 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:49:11 PM »

Quote from: filler on December 03, 2019, 02:45:14 AM

https://twitter.com/ifuckinsuck92/status/1201652550157520898

Yup. Seeing lots of filthy commies defend China.

Filthy commie: "We won't put you in camps and dictate behavior!"

Also filthy commie: "can't you see that HK protests have no real cause and have nothing to protest??"

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #45048 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:51:09 PM »

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #45049 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:51:22 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on December 03, 2019, 01:19:47 PM

https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1201927582893182976

_____

Meanwhile, John Delaney....

https://twitter.com/JohnDelaney/status/1199454399766159360

But in 2021 Tulsi will be running the DOD.

Himu · « **Reply #45050 on:** December 03, 2019, 01:55:41 PM »

Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on December 03, 2019, 01:51:22 PM

Quote from: Tripon on December 03, 2019, 01:19:47 PM
https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1201927582893182976

_____

Meanwhile, John Delaney....

https://twitter.com/JohnDelaney/status/1199454399766159360

But in 2021 Tulsi will be running the DOD.

Ssshhh. It'll be more funny when the sun burns their clay wings.

Tasty · « **Reply #45051 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:04:12 PM »

Quote from: Dufus on December 03, 2019, 01:41:59 PM

The best thing about Harris dropping out is that it makes polls easier to read.

That's been the best part of everyone dropping out.

And will continue to be so until we get like 3-4 people left.

Himu · « **Reply #45052 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:05:16 PM »

Bloomberg and Biden next please

Unfortunately Biden is hanging on but I doubt Bloomberg will prove popular. Last I read he had a bad showing in Iowa

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #45053 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:06:32 PM »

Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on December 03, 2019, 01:51:22 PM

Quote from: Tripon on December 03, 2019, 01:19:47 PM
https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1201927582893182976

_____

Meanwhile, John Delaney....

https://twitter.com/JohnDelaney/status/1199454399766159360

But in 2021 Tulsi will be running the DOD.

Department of DATASS

Tasty · « **Reply #45054 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:07:32 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on December 03, 2019, 01:16:37 PM

https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1201926640256847873

Back to the Jews being white again, I see.

If that's the only reason she had left to run, it's a good thing she isn't anymore.

HINT HINT PETE

And we need to talk about it.

Tripon · « **Reply #45055 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:14:14 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 03, 2019, 01:46:01 PM

Quote from: Tripon on December 03, 2019, 01:16:37 PM
The funny thing is that this probably her last chance. Gavin Newsom is going to pretend he's a popular governor and run in 2024, no matter who wins.

https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1201926640256847873

Back to the Jews being white again, I see.

Why post SJW dogshit, Trip?

IDpol

For the mocking.

Nintex · « **Reply #45056 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:16:50 PM »

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1201931955002052608

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #45057 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:17:23 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #45058 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:18:08 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on December 03, 2019, 02:16:50 PM

<trump tweet>

benjipwns · « **Reply #45059 on:** December 03, 2019, 02:25:24 PM »

https://twitter.com/shujaxhaider/status/1201927566753435649

https://twitter.com/mannyfidel/status/1201934241610764288

News:

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