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nachobro

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« Reply #52560 on: March 04, 2020, 12:17:08 PM »
imagine if glen did something with his 26 degrees and all his facebook friends and that think tank experience and maybe even went somewhere away from a pc screen to help out. probably better to just brag about how long he waited to cast a primary vote for the next four years under trump instead.

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« Reply #52561 on: March 04, 2020, 12:25:08 PM »
Blaming Glen and other white moderates is stupid. This wasn't decided by any one camp. Look at the youth turnout. Look at minority turnout.

Shit just didn't work. People had an option, and whether it was fear of change or Bernie's face or the deluge of "the revolution is coming" fearmongering, they chose incrementalism.

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« Reply #52563 on: March 04, 2020, 12:28:35 PM »
right, you can’t blame a party for consolidating its own power to prevent their best chance of survival, but you can stop supporting them for it!

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« Reply #52565 on: March 04, 2020, 12:30:40 PM »
Bragging with a masters degree and thinking that it means anything  :neogaf

I have a PhD and I consider myself the biggest idiot on this forum.

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« Reply #52566 on: March 04, 2020, 12:34:33 PM »
still not giving up btw...all this means is the hispanic vote in NM becomes even more important. however i am gonna take a day to be sad and and annoyed and mope.

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« Reply #52567 on: March 04, 2020, 12:37:43 PM »
so much for having me on ignore you fibber. probably lying about going to vote yesterday too :lol

convenient that you say what was done or not done doesn't matter after saying i didn't do enough while you did nothing.

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« Reply #52568 on: March 04, 2020, 12:39:03 PM »
I kinda think we’re goin about this all wrong. We need to take Bernie’s platform, add the word America in there a few more times, and get someone to run as a Republican with it. Trump showed that party can be taken over. Democrats are too entrenched in the old ways  :doge

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« Reply #52569 on: March 04, 2020, 12:42:43 PM »
People have a strong image of you in their heads, Glendalyn, it’s gonna be hard to find people willing to take you as genuine on this one lol (especially since you probably wished them dead at one time or another over this or similar topics)


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« Reply #52570 on: March 04, 2020, 12:44:51 PM »
That song was so lit at school dances for me :lol

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« Reply #52571 on: March 04, 2020, 12:45:40 PM »
nothing says "not a boast" like ending a shitty post about your degrees and social standing with "so maybe consider that on occasion I'm right about stuff" :lol

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« Reply #52572 on: March 04, 2020, 12:54:08 PM »
nothing says "reasonable and patient" like calling people out by name for not doing enough to coddle asspained hillary supporters who can't get over a grudge from years ago :lol


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« Reply #52573 on: March 04, 2020, 12:54:19 PM »
spare me your tired condescension, you dunce. i just don't understand how you feel okay about talking down to people about what they have and have not done to help get out the vote and whining that no one wanted to coddle your privileged, complainy ass into voting for someone who wants to give healthcare to the country.

sorry i spent my weekends at the library using the worst spanish ever to help people get registered instead of jerking your shitty white dick and whispering in your ear what a sweet boy you are for coming down from your high horse to vote the right way. maybe you could have used your 50 degrees and piles of experience to be helpful for something more than proclaiming what a good person you are for standing in line at a polling location.

Whether or not a Bernie supporter spent time to convince me individually, my demographic details, and what you did or didn't do are all irrelevant.

My entire point was that Sanders needed to expand his coalition, and that a strategy of attacking everyone who isn't already in the coalition probably isn't the best strategy.

I eagerly await your postmortem on 11/4 when joe Biden loses to trump and you blame the Bernie bros again.  All I’ll say is if Biden can’t unite the party maybe he isn’t the best candidate to run :trumps

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« Reply #52574 on: March 04, 2020, 12:55:20 PM »
If Glen was being less of a dick here we could talk about some of his point

I have been exceptionally reasonable and patient this morning.
You've done nothing but imply that bernie lost because he cant sweet talk you like shosta can  :lol

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« Reply #52575 on: March 04, 2020, 12:55:52 PM »
yo glen why don't you take these next few months and all your degrees to practice what you preach and start building bridges for bernie? might do you some good.

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« Reply #52576 on: March 04, 2020, 12:56:38 PM »
still not giving up btw...all this means is the hispanic vote in NM becomes even more important. however i am gonna take a day to be sad and and annoyed and mope.

 :salute
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« Reply #52577 on: March 04, 2020, 12:57:15 PM »
If Glen was being less of a dick here we could talk about some of his point which is, how successful is the strategy of attacking the Democratic party for it's function as the left wing of capital in government but also relying on its voter base and some of its political infrastructure to achieve your electoral goals. There's an obvious contradiction in strategy and rhetoric that can't easily be reconciled. I don't think Sanders is capable of building a big tent while maintaining his stances but that's not to say it won't ever be bridged somehow. Just didn't happen this time
I mean, yeah, Sanders has shown he is incapable of convincing a certain type of democrat that things needed to change even under Obama. There’s a firewall in the party that doesn’t want to hurt the poor banks, medical lobbyists, insurance, whoever the fuck or is just uncomfortable with any sort of actual change. They’d rather vote for Joe Biden, who, I mean, c’mon. So what course of action do people who want something have to change the party? If it won’t change, then what?


Maybe just start calling ourselves some catchy thing America first name and let the republicans who are just in the party to dunk on the dims dunk on them with all the shit they said couldn’t be done? I think Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson could sell em on it

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« Reply #52578 on: March 04, 2020, 01:00:58 PM »
Joe Biden said what?!?!

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« Reply #52579 on: March 04, 2020, 01:01:03 PM »
you should listen to joe, pal. let me tell you jack hes got the right ideas pal. so if you want to get on the right path with us, fats, you better straighten up and fly right. get on board cause we're gonna go to the thing with the you know what the thing.

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« Reply #52580 on: March 04, 2020, 01:02:57 PM »
If Glen was being less of a dick here we could talk about some of his point

I have been exceptionally reasonable and patient this morning.
You've done nothing but imply that bernie lost because he cant sweet talk you like shosta can  :lol

My actual argument, which is pretty ironclad now, is that Bernie lost because a very large percentage of Dems were ready to vote specifically against him and just needed to figure out who had the best chance to beat him.

The fact that this clearly happened, and the fact that he's spent years attacking the Democratic party, and that his followers have a reputation for being colossal bullies, is not a coincidence.

Yeah, that's what I said.

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« Reply #52581 on: March 04, 2020, 01:03:20 PM »
If Glen was being less of a dick here we could talk about some of his point

I have been exceptionally reasonable and patient this morning.
You've done nothing but imply that bernie lost because he cant sweet talk you like shosta can  :lol

My actual argument, which is pretty ironclad now, is that Bernie lost because a very large percentage of Dems were ready to vote specifically against him and just needed to figure out who had the best chance to beat him.

The fact that this clearly happened, and the fact that he's spent years attacking the Democratic party, and that his followers have a reputation for being colossal bullies, is not a coincidence.

Spend years making a lot of the voting base dislike you, and then wonder why you don't get their votes.
All that proves is Dems contain a coalition of spineless fucks afraid for themselves in any real change is the simple rebuttal to that

Oh and since you edited in that last bit my edit in response to it is: this is exactly why Biden is going to lose, bet me

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« Reply #52582 on: March 04, 2020, 01:03:49 PM »
Glen, all this proves is that bernie was right.

Democrats are idiots. They should be attacked and bullied because over and over again they keep making the same fucking mistakes.

Gore, Kerry, Hillary, Biden

An all star team of old boring moderate LOSERS
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« Reply #52583 on: March 04, 2020, 01:03:53 PM »
glen is pulling the "full cracker" and demanding someone recognize how triggering it is for him to be bullied by bernie bros :lol

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« Reply #52584 on: March 04, 2020, 01:05:28 PM »
cats^3 advocating for a new party with tucker carlson by being a little nationalist in order to carry through with our socialism. I like it. We can call it the national socialist party.

The revolution never stops under Strasserism.  8)

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« Reply #52585 on: March 04, 2020, 01:05:57 PM »


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« Reply #52586 on: March 04, 2020, 01:07:39 PM »
cats^3 advocating for a new party with tucker carlson by being a little nationalist in order to carry through with our socialism. I like it. We can call it the national socialist party.

It’s sad that I think it’s easier to convince a racist to like healthcare for everyone than it is to convince a centrist they need to do more than not be publicly racist

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« Reply #52587 on: March 04, 2020, 01:08:50 PM »
#freetusli

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« Reply #52588 on: March 04, 2020, 01:09:46 PM »
Yeah, now that I know she’s got a man, she’s lost her appeal, right?

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« Reply #52589 on: March 04, 2020, 01:10:30 PM »
You’re taking that part very seriously

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« Reply #52590 on: March 04, 2020, 01:12:21 PM »
tucker couldn't even committ to bowties for life, i doubt he can stay committed to the reps for life

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« Reply #52592 on: March 04, 2020, 01:16:25 PM »
pls say sike :gloomy

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« Reply #52593 on: March 04, 2020, 01:16:38 PM »
https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/1235264532286754816

suspend and coalesce behind warren bro!

It's the only way to fight the establishment.

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« Reply #52594 on: March 04, 2020, 01:20:02 PM »
I really don’t think I can vote for someone who would say something like that, Joe

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« Reply #52595 on: March 04, 2020, 01:21:19 PM »
glad to see biden won by taking a bunch of states that will be voting for trump in the general anyway. ah well, it is what it is. here's hoping the bernie/progressive momentum continues though the rest of the year and downticket elections.

There is no progressive movement. It exists only online.
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« Reply #52596 on: March 04, 2020, 01:23:26 PM »
If you didn’t care about others personal opinions of you and the things you don’t agree with, you wouldn’t PM people and act like a bitch about it. Lay down in front of an oncoming train while blasting Clinton’s sour grapes audiobook, you resource vampire.

You're so fucking salty about that. I apologized.

Anyway that doesn't address the reality of what happened yesterday.

Reality is based on perception Glenda, do you honestly believe the run up to Super Tuesday was fair to Bernie?  I see a more subtle voter disenfranchisement at play that hurt him from the party who normally believes in everyone’s right to free and fair elections, until it might go a direction they aren’t happy with.  Seems kind of shitty to me.

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« Reply #52597 on: March 04, 2020, 01:24:41 PM »
So much material for the best glen posts thread. Mashallah :rejoice
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« Reply #52598 on: March 04, 2020, 01:25:38 PM »
bernie gonna drop a "i lived bitch" on us in 30 mins, can't wait :bernie

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« Reply #52599 on: March 04, 2020, 01:26:43 PM »

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« Reply #52600 on: March 04, 2020, 01:26:57 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1235232818692792320

Donald takes a sharpie crosses out the name mini mike and turns the page
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« Reply #52601 on: March 04, 2020, 01:27:47 PM »
Sanders cannot build a big tent. He relies on an age demographic that doesn't vote. He won in a small amount of states. His prospects going forward are small. The rust belt, sun belt and maybe PNW are his only hopes.

The polls are also wrong. Not just on candidates but also issues. Progressive views are not popular.
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« Reply #52602 on: March 04, 2020, 01:27:50 PM »
Trump's political instincts are better than any Dem running

He'll hammer Biden from the left on a whole bunch of issues and fuck with him on the debate stage in a way he couldn't with Hillary.

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« Reply #52603 on: March 04, 2020, 01:28:24 PM »
 :trash
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« Reply #52604 on: March 04, 2020, 01:28:35 PM »
https://twitter.com/IramiOF/status/1235232878646251520

can't wait for some hilarious joe leaks (and i don't mean his diaper)

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« Reply #52606 on: March 04, 2020, 01:29:18 PM »
Here's something else that's true: Bernie Sanders will never be president.
Neither will Joe Biden. So we all lose.

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« Reply #52607 on: March 04, 2020, 01:29:46 PM »
Glen, all this proves is that bernie was right.

Democrats are idiots. They should be attacked and bullied because over and over again they keep making the same fucking mistakes.

Gore, Kerry, Hillary, Biden

An all star team of old boring moderate LOSERS

Gore was all about that climate change before it was the woke thing to do :ufup

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« Reply #52608 on: March 04, 2020, 01:30:35 PM »
Sanders cannot build a big tent. He relies on an age demographic that doesn't vote. He won in a small amount of states. His prospects going forward are small. The rust belt is sun belt and maybe PNW are his only hopes.

The polls are also wrong. Not just on candidates but also issues. Progressive views are not popular.

People want M4A and to keep their private health insurance. Unpopularity isn't the issue.

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« Reply #52609 on: March 04, 2020, 01:32:11 PM »
Trump's political instincts are better than any Dem running

He'll hammer Biden from the left on a whole bunch of issues and fuck with him on the debate stage in a way he couldn't with Hillary.

I actually expect Trump to propose his own national healthcare program. It won't happen but it will get him votes. Since Biden is so against M4A all Trump has to do is propose it all but name.
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« Reply #52610 on: March 04, 2020, 01:36:14 PM »
glad to see biden won by taking a bunch of states that will be voting for trump in the general anyway. ah well, it is what it is. here's hoping the bernie/progressive momentum continues though the rest of the year and downticket elections.

There is no progressive movement. It exists only online.

This is a piss in the face of all the people out here putting time, effort, their career livelihoods, and personal safety into these causes. Really unfair of you to say this just because Bernie Sanders isn't winning an election

Cindi was a republican 6 months ago and will probably be a libertarian in another 6 months.  Don’t take her posts seriously.

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« Reply #52611 on: March 04, 2020, 01:36:43 PM »
Been politically engaged for 20 years since 9/11.

It's true.

Progressive views are niche. I've come to accept it.
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« Reply #52612 on: March 04, 2020, 01:39:13 PM »
glad to see biden won by taking a bunch of states that will be voting for trump in the general anyway. ah well, it is what it is. here's hoping the bernie/progressive momentum continues though the rest of the year and downticket elections.

There is no progressive movement. It exists only online.

This is a piss in the face of all the people out here putting time, effort, their career livelihoods, and personal safety into these causes. Really unfair of you to say this just because Bernie Sanders isn't winning an election

Cindi was a republican 6 months ago and will probably be a libertarian in another 6 months.  Don’t take her posts seriously.

The only reason I ever became republican is because I was pushed to after a decade and half of bullshit by democrats. Unfortunately I should have skipped a step and give up on the country in general.
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« Reply #52613 on: March 04, 2020, 01:42:11 PM »
Quote
Tuesday’s primary results sent health-care stocks flying. The Health Care Select Sector SPDR ETF (XLV) traded more than 4% higher. UnitedHealth and Centene jumped 9.2% and 13.4%, respectively. Shares of UnitedHealth were on pace for their biggest one-day gain since 2009.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/dow-futures-show-300-point-pop-as-early-super-tuesday-results-favor.html

Congrats Glen. This is the future you want.

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« Reply #52614 on: March 04, 2020, 01:42:19 PM »
I’m sorry Obama and JFK put a gun to your head and forced you to be a Republican.

In all seriousness, I’m sure you’ve explained this before but what exactly did republicans offer you that you felt was worth making the party switch?

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« Reply #52615 on: March 04, 2020, 01:45:16 PM »
Honestly, I can see Bernie having a strong debate performance and getting a slight lead all the way to a brokered convention.

That will be the true blackpill

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« Reply #52616 on: March 04, 2020, 01:45:45 PM »
Also esch, it's not just Sanders. What about Warren? Isn't she known as a progressive? Hm?

In the Bible you know how it says you shall know them by their fruit? Where's the fruit for progressive views? Warren got toasted. Sanders can't build a big tent. Fruit means results. Are there any for progressive movements besides marijuana?

Progressive views are niche in America. Accept it. In 20 years you'll still be fighting for crumbs. Bet.
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« Reply #52617 on: March 04, 2020, 01:50:10 PM »
Honestly, I can see Bernie having a strong debate performance and getting a slight lead all the way to a brokered convention.

That will be the true blackpill

The assumption here is many people watch the debates and then decide rather than just watch what the news people tell them. If people watched debates they would have known that Biden is a non-starter and will be creamed by Trump. Instead, they'll act like shocked Pikachu during the Presidential debates. :lol It's gonna be a slaughter. You're over estimating American political engagement.
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« Reply #52618 on: March 04, 2020, 01:51:17 PM »
i think the biggest benefit biden has gotten from the debates is not having much time to talk. if its really gonna be just two or three people up there til june that will expose biden a lot more than he has been before.

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« Reply #52619 on: March 04, 2020, 01:52:51 PM »
I’m sorry Obama and JFK put a gun to your head and forced you to be a Republican.

In all seriousness, I’m sure you’ve explained this before but what exactly did republicans offer you that you felt was worth making the party switch?

Do you want an actual honest to God answer or a troll?
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