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Nier Automata
« on: December 23, 2016, 02:39:17 PM »
So awesome.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2016, 02:40:08 PM »
Incoming fans of Nier who never actually played Nier
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2016, 02:44:17 PM »
It was pretty good. Reminds me a lot of Drakengard 3 [not coincidentally, it's got the same director], but with much improved combat [Drakengard 3's combat was kinda stiff]. I'm definitely hyped even more for it now, fortunately it comes out a bout a month before Persona 5.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2016, 02:45:44 PM »
I loved the first game, dude. Didn't get all the endings but I enjoyed my time with it. If this is as big as Nier but with the dope ass Platinum gameplay than SE already has the crown for best publisher of this gen.

I'm definitely hyped even more for it now, fortunately it comes out a bout a month before Persona 5.

Damn, console JRPGs making a comeback.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2016, 03:04:03 PM »
It was cool.  Felt Nier, felt Platinum MGR.  Cutscenes are cool, lots of mecha whooo, music got good by the end.  Definitely sold me on playing it Day 1.

That being said I don't really get the uber praise.  The grunt combat was borderline dull and the shooting was simple and could get old real fast.  This doesn't feel like Bayonetta Platinum but MGR and I'm one of the few people who think MGR was average and fairly shallow (but fun!)

I really do like the fast dashing through the stage though, feels slick.  Also game looks great on PS4 Pro.

I do like that the game is creative like the first Nier with it's camera angels like turning into a top down twin stick shooter or having panzer dragon/s&p type flying bullet dodging.

Tbh that the combat is fairly shallow and will probably be very repetitive actually just makes it feel more like Nier and I think it works because if you have a lot of lows in the middle then it makes the cool shit highs seem way better.  Whereas Bayo is like high high higher high etc...

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2016, 03:18:49 PM »
It's definitely not Bayonetta, but I didn't expect Bayonetta. I'd say it's less the gameplay being shallower as much as it's genre limitations. I'm not expecting DMC3 level gameplay from a JRPG.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2016, 03:24:07 PM »
yeah if it ain't Kamiya I'm not gonna expect an amazing dynamic combo system. that said it plays very smoothly, which is a massive improvement from the first game. i felt like the original had a lot of cool ideas but clunky implementation; this one doesn't seem like it'll have that problem at all. and as long as it doesn't have you running back and forth across the same maps we'll be set!
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2016, 03:32:40 PM »
The entire time I was thinking "Man, this is like Nier if I wasn't getting annoyed with the clunky gameplay"

The first Nier was fine gameplay wise, but this plays like a massive improvement.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2016, 04:24:34 PM »
Not sure why Bebpo is expecting action game quality gameplay from an action rpg.

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2016, 05:17:25 PM »
Incoming fans of Nier who never actually played Nier

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2016, 05:23:44 PM »
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2016, 05:24:46 PM »
nier 1 was okay
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2016, 06:36:16 PM »
Always been down with Nier too, ever since I first drifted while riding the Boar...
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2016, 06:58:56 PM »
Not sure why Bebpo is expecting action game quality gameplay from an action rpg.

Because the demo wasn't an action rpg?  I mean if this has a big open world like Nier that you run across and do quests and stuff it's one thing.  If it's structured with a bunch of "stages" like this demo then there is zero difference between this and MGR so why can't it play as a super HQ character action game?  I'm actually going to be a little bummed if it is stage-based because my I really liked the field stuff with boar riding in the first game.

I mean the action was solid, and similar to a character action game.  It just wasn't anything amazing but maybe that's because you're low level.  Plus hopefully you get other weapons like Nier 1, wasn't too big on the feel of the light/heavy attacks with the sword.  Heavy is just too slow for my style and light is a bit slow too for a standard action sword slash. 

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2016, 07:11:34 PM »
do we have confirmation that it's stage based? Seems more like they wanted to show you a cool part so you'd keep coming back, like a demo.

If it is just stage based then I get your complaints, but some things from the demo makes it seem like it'll have the big world and RPG shit still.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2016, 07:15:16 PM »
It better be an action RPG like the original Nier which was one of my top five games last gen.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2016, 07:22:06 PM »
Everything I've read suggests that that's the direction they're going with it.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2016, 08:25:20 PM »
I haven't seen any trailers or anything though, just going off the demo.

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2016, 08:52:08 PM »
Well Nier 1 was garbage, but this well this actually seems like a cool game based on the demo.

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2016, 09:05:29 PM »
I haven't seen any trailers or anything though, just going off the demo.

Watch some of this video:



It shows off the open-world, RPG aspects [and also warthog-riding].
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2016, 03:53:34 AM »
Well Nier 1 was garbage
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2016, 08:24:55 AM »
Thanks for the vid, GR. Now I just want to drift with a moose.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2016, 04:41:04 PM »
It's pretty good fun. I've found myself replaying the demo as it controls so well.

The side and top down stuff though is very hit and miss

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2016, 01:17:21 PM »
The switching perspectives is going to be real lame. Why I hated it in the first game because when they did it, it wasn't fun. The still had a reason. They changed into a RE style game because that part was trying to go for a haunted mansion horror feel. It changed into a text novel because they needed to drop lots of info. They changed into a sidescroller to show enviroments smartly and cheaply. This just does it to do it or so the demo implies.

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2016, 07:17:57 PM »
I thought it was fucking amazing

I was like


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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2016, 11:39:12 PM »
I like the demo, but my initial impressions are that this is not as good as I was hoping it would be. The game feels kind of stiff and almost dumbed-down compared to Bayonetta 2. Not a fan of the changing, fixed camera angle sections either. I get that they're going for a different game play feel (it's almost shooter like at times), but I'm not sure if it works that well. The 2D sections are fine but the top down sections felt confusing at times.

But this is still on the must-buy list.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2016, 11:53:54 PM »
Help me enjoy the first nier's gameplay

I just can't

I love the story but the gameplay Jesus Christ I'm sorry. Help

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2016, 11:57:35 PM »
i don't like it either but the game is short and easy. just grab an op sword and bop stuff till the credits roll.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2016, 12:15:26 AM »
What was so good about the first Nier? I'll never understand how it got the praise it did.

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2016, 12:40:42 AM »
i don't like it either but the game is short and easy. just grab an op sword and bop stuff till the credits roll.

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2016, 12:43:55 AM »
What was so good about the first Nier? I'll never understand how it got the praise it did.
You say this as if it got universal praise. Some people liked it. Some people didn't. Understanding why we liked it won't change your opinion of it.

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2016, 12:52:23 AM »
i don't like it either but the game is short and easy. just grab an op sword and bop stuff till the credits roll.

How

um i don't fuckin remember. i tried to do all the sidequests so I'm sure I got a good weapon from one of those
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2016, 10:55:36 AM »
I don't think I want to play a sequel to a 68 metacritic game.

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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2016, 10:59:49 AM »
Help me enjoy the first nier's gameplay

I just can't

I love the story but the gameplay Jesus Christ I'm sorry. Help
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2016, 11:05:55 AM »
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2016, 01:37:52 PM »
I don't think I want to play a sequel to a 68 metacritic game.



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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2016, 01:51:26 PM »
lmao


(bfg edition was really good though)
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2016, 05:14:15 PM »
I don't think I want to play a sequel to a 68 metacritic game.

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Maaaan, that doesn't count. It's a port!

The original is an 87.
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Re: So how awesome is the Nier Automata demo?
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2016, 07:24:34 PM »
Help me enjoy the first nier's gameplay

I just can't

I love the story but the gameplay Jesus Christ I'm sorry. Help

Yeah, me too. I wanted to like it, could NOT get into it.

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« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2017, 07:10:27 AM »
For anyone not wanting to wait another two weeks, the Asian-region versions of the game run in full English.  I caved and downloaded the Japanese version last night, but can't say much about the game since I only got to play the portion that becomes available after 10 GB has downloaded...which is the same as the demo.  Gotta start over today.

The Hong Kong store has the game for about $51, BTW.
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« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2017, 09:16:01 AM »
It has been confirmed that the game has at least four different 'routes' to play through with additional/different story, enemies, areas, and different endings.  You also play as other characters in these routes. 

...Can't wait to see the game get pissed on by reviewers who claim it's too short without realizing this.  :doge
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« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2017, 01:32:02 PM »
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However, YouTuber TheSeraphim17 managed to put together a short video showcasing how gamers can remove 2B’s skirt and play her in nothing but the leotard thong.

During the actual game, when you’re running around on Earth, you’ll need to activate the self-destruct sequence.

This is done by pressing and holding down the L3 and R3 buttons on the left and right analog sticks, as indicated in the image below.

In the game, proceed to activate 2B’s self destruct sequence. A timer will count down until she blows herself up.

Once she falls down and presumably dies, her lower skirt will blow off.

Proceed to quickly heal up 2B so that you don’t die.

Once 2B is healed she’ll get back up and will be in the body-suit thong leotard, giving you a full view of her voluptuous backside.

Apparently this works for the male 9S droid too.
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« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2017, 03:13:35 PM »
The game is pretty awesome so far, BTW. Great combination of an action RPG with SHMUP mechanics and a little bit of Bayonetta thrown in.  I love how you start off going down to Earth in your transforming ship/mech and do a bit of shoot-em-up action before touching down.

And the soundtrack is stellar.
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« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2017, 03:40:38 PM »
The game is pretty awesome so far, BTW. Great combination of an action RPG with SHMUP mechanics and a little bit of Bayonetta thrown in.  I love how you start off going down to Earth in your transforming ship/mech and do a bit of shoot-em-up action before touching down.

And the soundtrack is stellar.
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Damn cant wait to play this, the demo was amazing

also name change?

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« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2017, 05:39:10 PM »
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/02/24/nier-automata-players-upset-discovering-trash-item-called-nin64/

brb preordering.

An item called "Bone-EX" would have been even better considering how Platinum got fucked over by MS.
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« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2017, 08:55:35 PM »
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/02/24/nier-automata-players-upset-discovering-trash-item-called-nin64/

brb preordering.
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Nonetheless, a lot of players in Japan saw it as a rather tasteless comment to call the old Nintendo hardware “trash” as described in the info and began demanding Square Enix to change it. Producer Yosuke Saito followed up with the tweet to address the issue, saying that they will “change the name of an item you’ve all pointed out” as well as some bug fixes in the next patch.
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« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2017, 11:03:30 PM »
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/02/24/nier-automata-players-upset-discovering-trash-item-called-nin64/

brb preordering.
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Nonetheless, a lot of players in Japan saw it as a rather tasteless comment to call the old Nintendo hardware “trash” as described in the info and began demanding Square Enix to change it. Producer Yosuke Saito followed up with the tweet to address the issue, saying that they will “change the name of an item you’ve all pointed out” as well as some bug fixes in the next patch.
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Fuck entitled fans consumers.

Fuck Japanese devs for avoiding controversy, particularly when it's manufactured.

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« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2017, 10:16:00 AM »
I've put ten-plus hours into the game now.  Really enjoying it and the atmosphere and soundtrack are just amazing.  The pacing is pretty good, so far, and the game doesn't really do any hand-holding, which is much-appreciated.  I think I'm getting close to finishing the game now, or should I say, I'm getting close to finishing the first part of the game since it's more like three campaigns in one.

The story and atmosphere are the big things here.   It becomes pretty obvious what is going on fairly quickly in, but the game is written well enough that it stays pretty engaging.  The plot is that at some point centuries in the past, aliens came to earth.  Rather than invade directly, they sent out robots to work for them.  In turn, humans fled to the moon and had androids fight for them.  So this is one big proxy war between machines.  Initially things appear to be pretty straightforward, with your side, androids, going down to the earth and destroying mindless robot drones, but you quickly find that there are robots with full intelligence and consciousness. 

Major story spoiler:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The android/robot war is completely pointless.  Aliens and humans are long dead and the war is just continuing on to give the machines a sense of 'purpose'. 

You play as Android 2B with 9S as your companion the first time around, then play as 9S the second time with some bits of new story (and different game play), and then you play as another character after this with a lot of new story and areas to explore. 

Massive story spoiler:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I haven't even gotten this far but found out that what's really going on with 2B and 9S is that 2B pretty much knows all this already.  Her job is to watch 9S, who during the course of the game finds out about the android/robot war, and then kill him/wipe his memory over and over again.

The action is good, although I kind of wish this was a pure level-based action game instead of an 'open-world' style action-RPG.  There's a lot of unnecessary running back and forth for a good while until you finally get to a point where fast travel is possible.  They should have had this available from the start-- The save points you use to travel between have to be found and liberated from robots guarding them anyway.  You can equip various chips that enhance your abilities, but if you don't want to bother with this, you can also have the game auto-equip them for you and keep things more action-oriented.  The game play is mainly fully-3D hack and slash/shooting, but there's also some SHMUP-style sections and 2.5D platforming/action areas as well.

I'm pretty engrossed in the game right now and it's making me want to go back and check out the original Nier and Drakengard 3 when I'm done with it, although next up is going to be Zelda.  Speaking of those other two games, there are a few Nier characters who pop up and there's also a certain type of flower you can spot here and there that appears to be the same as the one Zero wears in Drakengard 3, in what I assume is a nod to that game.
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« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2017, 03:05:40 PM »
Anyone getting it on PC?  Thinking about it, but the system requirements (a 980 is recommended for a game that looks like that  :dizzy) scare me into thinking it's a shoddy port.

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« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2017, 03:36:39 PM »
Too many good games this month, how am I supposed to play Zelda, Horizon, and this?
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« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2017, 04:18:50 PM »
My copy shipped from Square Enix's store last week. Looking forward to this. I didn't play any of the Drakengard games or the first Nier, so I looked up some YouTube story recaps. I wish I hadn't now. This lore seems more convoluted than the Metal Gear multiverse. Luckily it sounds like they made Automata pretty stand alone story-wise.
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« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2017, 04:31:49 PM »
Too many good games this month, how am I supposed to play Zelda, Horizon, and this?

Seriously.  I skipped out on Horizon and will not try it until I'm done with Nier and Zelda.  And I still have Yakuza 0... :dizzy

Luckily it sounds like they made Automata pretty stand alone story-wise.

Seems to be the case, unless it gets full-blown insane later on, where I haven't made it to yet.
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« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2017, 11:19:11 PM »
My copy shipped from Square Enix's store last week. Looking forward to this. I didn't play any of the Drakengard games or the first Nier, so I looked up some YouTube story recaps. I wish I hadn't now. This lore seems more convoluted than the Metal Gear multiverse. Luckily it sounds like they made Automata pretty stand alone story-wise.

Uh, I've never played Drakengard and Nier was just fine. I think you're just too worried about the "overall" lore when they might as well be vague connections.
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« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2017, 11:31:17 PM »
Honestly they are all pretty stand alone. The connections between the Drakengard and Nier games is more like background stuff that really won't effect what you get from the story as you experience it.

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« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2017, 09:42:11 AM »
Just watch this video...



...and realize that the lore of Drakengard/Nier doesn't make a damn bit of sense anyway, so don't worry about it.
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« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2017, 10:06:04 AM »
There are some characters from the first Nier in Nier Automata, but I'm still not far enough in to be able to say how much they really matter to the previous game's story. 

But it doesn't seem like you need to have played Nier to understand things at the end from what I've read.
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« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2017, 08:49:45 PM »
Ordered the collector's edition from the SE online store and it shipped to me all banged up, the inside of the box was torn.

The FFXV collector's edition was fine when I ordered it off there.

Fuck... hopefully I can get a refund or a new one.
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« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2017, 09:02:14 PM »
Edit: Nvm, I'm dumb!

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« Reply #59 on: March 07, 2017, 11:15:17 PM »
Wow starting off with an Ikuruga reference.