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« Reply #1620 on: October 01, 2019, 06:11:42 AM »
Three weeks vacation a year lol.

plus weekend getaways and social functions
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« Reply #1621 on: October 01, 2019, 06:21:33 AM »
It's easier to ship jobs overseas than it ever was, for sure, but I see a lot of companies ("medium" sized ones, not multinationals) completely bungle the process, and sometimes it means it's so incompetent the shipping is delayed year after year.

And threatening to give jobs to someone else if you complain is as old as employment.
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« Reply #1622 on: October 01, 2019, 08:38:51 AM »
From what I have seen, being in senior leadership in a company is no real guarantee that you are s good leader, businessman, or especially smart.

As a result things that are penny smart but pound foolish are easy sells because they see how the bottom linen will change without taking into account any complications.

Saw this at a company I worked at a few years ago. They were doing an agile transformation in IT and the consultant told them they would do double the work after laying off 40% of the IT department. A smart person sees that and says “no fucking way that is true” unless you think half of IT is literally doing nothing valuable.

We of course did it, and are now still trying to recover as IT is actually bigger than it was prior to the layoffs but also less experienced.

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« Reply #1623 on: October 01, 2019, 08:58:50 AM »
I think the naked truth of it is that the "wage cost" is a line in the accounting sheet while "craftsmanship", "experience" and other invisible factors in productivity are not. Multinationals are better at it because they can probably stomach the transition pain cost and they have more people over there overseeing the operations
With medium companies it's always, as far as I've seen, a total Mickey Mouse operation of sending some guy over, sometimes not even in a permanent capacity, generally without experience in that sort of things.
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« Reply #1624 on: October 01, 2019, 09:06:25 AM »
https://twitter.com/MarketWatch/status/1178369905244229633

I feel like this exact same income breakdown comes out from somewhere about once a year.
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« Reply #1625 on: October 01, 2019, 09:25:20 AM »
"1.8M home vs. 1.6 median home price"  ::)

Sorry, but if you still have money left over after all these extravagant expenses you aren't struggling.  Highlander instead of Range Rover GTFO.
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« Reply #1626 on: October 01, 2019, 09:43:30 AM »
Cost of living in different countries and all that but :lol
Isn't that top 2% in the US ?
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« Reply #1627 on: October 01, 2019, 09:45:32 AM »
You just don't understand the struggles of the petty bourgeoisie, forced to sell their Range Rover and buy a Toyota Highlander to make ends meet.
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« Reply #1629 on: October 01, 2019, 10:01:23 AM »
It's understandable but calling it struggling or expecting sympathy is ridiculous.

It's understandable because once you get a little bit of money there are a ton of social pressures to spend money;  if you really are struggling with that kind of income you need to stop succumbing to those social pressures. 

"I'm just as poor as the rest of you after I spend all my money!"
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« Reply #1630 on: October 01, 2019, 10:18:19 AM »
"Cash in hand" is a bit deceptive considering you've already factored in half a dozen insurance, savings schemes + leisure and vacation expenses.
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« Reply #1631 on: October 01, 2019, 10:29:57 AM »
It really sucks to be poor because you are saving 30 grand a year and have to buy a $2 million house.

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« Reply #1632 on: October 01, 2019, 11:59:24 AM »
It's understandable because once you get a little bit of money there are a ton of social pressures to spend money;  if you really are struggling with that kind of income you need to stop succumbing to those social pressures.
Yup. My eyes glazed over after I read 24k preschool. Is there a pithy catch-all like there is for people on foodstamps? What's the "new iPhone every year" of this stratum of society?

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« Reply #1633 on: October 01, 2019, 12:47:51 PM »
3 weekly vacations a year and $500/month in Entertainment

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« Reply #1634 on: October 01, 2019, 03:27:43 PM »
It's understandable but calling it struggling or expecting sympathy is ridiculous.

It's understandable because once you get a little bit of money there are a ton of social pressures to spend money;  if you really are struggling with that kind of income you need to stop succumbing to those social pressures.

It's part of the intent, to frame the high earnings as not high enough to redirect any displeasure.
Then if you prod at the budget it just unravels because of all the various questions that pop up. Why a $2 million dollar house? That charity isn't intended as a legitimate budget piece but as a way to simultaneously burn through dollars on sheet and indicate the benevolence of the rich. The article's intent is for you to pity them after all, and so on.


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« Reply #1635 on: October 01, 2019, 06:00:22 PM »
3 weekly vacations a year and $500/month in Entertainment

The $300 a month for charity really brings it all together, I think.
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« Reply #1636 on: October 02, 2019, 12:21:39 AM »
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« Reply #1639 on: October 02, 2019, 02:08:50 AM »
It really sucks to be poor because you are saving 30 grand a year and have to buy a $2 million house.

A $2 million dollar house in Los Angeles is sadly less impressive than what one might imagine.

Example:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3611-Grand-View-Blvd-Los-Angeles-CA-90066/20457587_zpid/

I mean that's a nice house, but if you put it in almost any other state it doesn't cost that much.
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« Reply #1640 on: October 02, 2019, 08:21:07 AM »
I understand that some places are expensive, but when you are in an upper income bracket, living in a super expensive place is a choice.

But either way, I wouldn’t call that family struggling in any way. They take 3 vacations a year and max out their retirement savings.

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« Reply #1641 on: October 02, 2019, 09:31:35 PM »
More fuck capitalism:


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« Reply #1644 on: October 03, 2019, 01:07:48 AM »
The closest thing I've done to taking a vacation as an adult is visiting my parents 2 states away. And I haven't even been able to do that every year. I guess that's my penance for all this student loan debt or something.
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« Reply #1645 on: October 03, 2019, 01:18:02 AM »
haven't paid my car loan in two and half years   :pimp
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« Reply #1648 on: October 03, 2019, 01:57:31 PM »
I wish capitalists would stop requesting sample pieces before letting me buy tons of paint

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« Reply #1651 on: October 03, 2019, 03:25:49 PM »
This is just what Hitler was saying, with different words! Mostly English ones instead of German ones, but a few of them sound similar because of the English language Germanic roots!
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« Reply #1653 on: October 04, 2019, 01:29:03 AM »
Wait, you actually pay your student loan debt? :lol

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« Reply #1654 on: October 04, 2019, 02:10:12 AM »
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« Reply #1655 on: October 04, 2019, 02:14:29 AM »
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« Reply #1656 on: October 04, 2019, 09:23:35 AM »
Sesame Street won't have new episodes on PBS? That's fucked up.

Fuck all the poor kids, eh? Not Amir0x style.

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« Reply #1657 on: October 04, 2019, 09:59:51 AM »
Sesame Street won't have new episodes on PBS? That's fucked up.

Fuck all the poor kids, eh? Not Amir0x style.
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Episodes will air for free on PBS “at some point” after the episodes debut on HBO Max, Vulture reports

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« Reply #1658 on: October 04, 2019, 10:15:18 AM »
Ah OK. Not that little kids really have any clue if a show is brand new or not.

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« Reply #1659 on: October 04, 2019, 10:18:09 AM »
Ah OK. Not that little kids really have any clue if a show is brand new or not.

Unless they're using landline phones or something.  :neo
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« Reply #1660 on: October 04, 2019, 11:57:47 AM »
Ah OK. Not that little kids really have any clue if a show is brand new or not.

Unless they're using landline phones or something.  :neo

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« Reply #1661 on: October 04, 2019, 02:38:56 PM »
PBS was left with only one episode, the one where Mr. Hooper dies, that they just air on repeat over and over.
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« Reply #1664 on: October 04, 2019, 06:49:49 PM »


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It's a tax dodge.

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« Reply #1666 on: October 05, 2019, 12:54:06 PM »
"Here's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist!"
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« Reply #1667 on: October 05, 2019, 01:05:19 PM »
Whiskey tide pods.

I'm sure eating plastic is good for your health.
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« Reply #1668 on: October 05, 2019, 01:08:55 PM »
we drink poison for fun, breh  ;)
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« Reply #1670 on: October 05, 2019, 01:47:16 PM »
Police unions are consistently garbage.
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« Reply #1671 on: October 05, 2019, 01:57:54 PM »
WTF? Is that an actual union's twitter?

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« Reply #1672 on: October 05, 2019, 02:16:46 PM »
WTF? Is that an actual union's twitter?

Not the Police union, apparently, this one only represents Police Sergeants.

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« Reply #1673 on: October 05, 2019, 02:23:32 PM »
They don't care about the homeless, they just wanna troll the mayor.
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« Reply #1674 on: October 05, 2019, 02:23:53 PM »
obummer phones  ;)
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« Reply #1675 on: October 05, 2019, 02:41:11 PM »


tl;dw
It's a tax dodge.
The Cruise ship industry is also total shit. Most are chartered in countries with terrible labor protections and wages, allowing them to bypass sensible wage and employee protections.

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« Reply #1677 on: October 05, 2019, 03:10:17 PM »
@realsadaam  :whew
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