I've been around long enough to remember when there wasn't a regular GAF thread and an Outside Link Thread, just the latter. But GAF dominated it so much they were split in two.
Cindi even has the first post in the split referencing it:
January 17, 2011, 07:52:41 PM »
No more gaf bitch talking!
It's silly to talk about ending a dumpster thread because GAF has shot itself in the foot, many of those same posters made fun of/bitched about are now over on ResetEra some as mods or admins,
many of the prolific GAF posters on here are now over on ResetEra, things will change after the
first weekend of mindless celebration. The dumpster thread, with the site titles in it to attract the flies, works to slow the spread as people come here shit and leave.
Personally I don't care for the idea of sending all the dumpster arguments over into the political thread either. It may not be ideal for them here, but it's not ideal to put them into a thread that doesn't want to discuss social studies warriors and the 2016 primaries for the rest of our lives over a newer/relevant political world. That's why I recommended an unstickied dumpster debate thread that can be an even more disastrous car crash of L's.
Some of this was discussed over in Cindi's stupid ban thread but it's that kind of spreading of shit outside this shit thread that the shit thread is supposed to keep contained. So I'll just keep rambling here, even if some of the people who don't read this thread won't see it.
The Bore was being called a gamergate, alt-right, racist and bigoted forum while etoliate was gone for that year plus or whatever. Salent and others long promoted that this was the place to go if you want to use the n-word in every sentence before GamerGate even was a thing. That ship has sailed.
I personally think we get far more use out of the dumpster thread than we would if we kill it or any kind of it. Lots of posters have come here for this thread, and then started to tiptoe out and then started posting elsewhere and are now "upstanding" (aka vile) members of the place. Hell, even the hateboner of the moment in Etoliate was a regular poster here for years in all the threads, he's barely exclusive to this thread, his worst stuff may be in this thread (for the sake of argument allow me this buddy) but that's because the worst stuff is in this thread. People obviously still want to argue about it. I don't even feel like etoliate was a regular in this thread in the two or three years prior to GG-talk. I remember seeing him more elsewhere on here.
Hell, the conversation driver for this whole thing spent more of the last year warring against the left and social studies warriors and antifa GAFfers in this thread than probably even he has. Or at minimum they're both far and away at the top of any kind of chart of users who seriously discussed this stuff. And half the hate etoliate's been getting lately from a lot of people is due to what he was posting in the political thread that's barely gotten any attention in here as an argument by the shitverse of posters other than when people are clowing on him for it. Like people asking him about Seth Rich.
I think it's just really premature to declare the need for a dumpster thread over, because ResetEra has had four days of positive launch warmth, and mods/admins are holding back. Look at the posters, hell, look at the mod list. Nobody is arguing the site has to descend into garbage, the admins were smart enough to run the transfer through the communities after getting them into discords first. But to seriously start thinking anything will be different down the road because the first three days of people posting GREAT OT, THANKS FOR GETTING THE SITE UP I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT ANY OF IT BUT I LOVE ALL OF YOU, WE'VE MADE A HUNDRED THOUSAND POSTS LOOK AT HOW GREAT WE ARE and other fart sniffing hasn't yet boiled over. Maybe we should wait and see if Slayven, Royalan, Pigeon and the rest keep up their war against white supremacist Nazi's from the alt-reich being treated as equal members or humans. Maybe we shouldn't look at something like that Mario Mexican/Italian/etc. thread and see the lack of "social studies warriors" as a bad sign when Mario is such a protected class even the original GAF thread never had the outrage but instead people talking about how great it is, but perhaps we should take a look at the stream of people denouncing it as trolling or bait, and posters posting that over and over trying to warn others and see lessons weren't being learned by the posters who have no reason to have learned any lessons.
GAF's moderation dysfunction didn't operate in a vacuum of purely Evilore's bad management, it was encouraged by and promoted what the posters were doing while never bringing them in line. ModBot's ability to be anonymous helped them refuse to take sides publicly except on their twitter accounts. If you think GAF sucked for the last 13 months because of purely the admins/mods,
