Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[CrankyJay]

https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/neogaf-offline-amidst-sex-assault-allegations-against-owner-w509871

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/922092593592373248

It's pretty funny watching all of neogaf's former targets reveling in its demise

I have to admit, I never liked PDP but I subscribed after watching a few of his new vids about the constant witchhunting against him by these fucking loons. The guy is very different than he used to be a decade ago, I kind of like him now.

Oh no! He blurted out a bad word in a moment of frustration! HANG. HIM.

You're the kind of trash that justifies neogaf's harsh moderation policy.

Nothing justifies neogaf's "moderation" "policy."

FOH with that shit, this is not the place for that.

[SwolDic]

You're the kind of trash that justifies neogaf's harsh moderation policy.

you give too much power to that word.  fucking relax.

[Polyh3dron]

EmCeeGrammar was the best mod.

And even he was an alt account

BTW WTF is this GAF Gold shit on my account

[salva]

Also, who the fuck responds with 3 paragraphs to the question "are you a pedo"? You fucking weirdo.

Another issue with GAF, is the fact that it's a videogame forum - and the moderators and community acted as if the minutia of every issue must have an opinion exposed to it.

This may be a shocking revelation to some there, but, believe it or not you do NOT have to have an opinion on everything. In fact, you do not even need to harbor political or weird social discussions whatsoever. If I were running the site, years ago I would have taken it into an objective direction and blocked all political or social discussion.

No one from the American Psychiatric Association is going to quote a NeoGAF thread in the next DSM for opinions on pedophilia. And even if NeoGAF were as self important as some think it is, we'll all be buried or ash in 100 years anyway.

I think we can all agree on the fact child abuse is horrible, and should be reported to nearest precinct if needed. And that it's an unfortunate condition if someone is born attracted to children, but they have a choice in the matter to take action or not, or to get chemically castrated or not. Someone born with down syndrome, blindness, or any kind of impairment doesn't even have THAT option. Some should consider their priorities of sympathies and learn the fact you in fact, do not NEED to judge every single person or scenario.

I feel like the issue with the mods is that most were degenerates with absolutely no social skills whatsoever. I'm sure it must be tough to find a normal individual who will willingly volunteer their time to mod a forum as big as gaf with no compensation.

[TDLink]

Hey all. Also someone from GAF. Same username.

I just want to talk about video games, film, and television with cool people. The political bs that infected the entire forum was getting completely out of hand. But I consistently just "kept my head down" and focused on talking about that stuff I was there to talk about in the first place. A few weeks ago I started to really dislike the site though, despite being a member since 2010 and lurking since about 2006.

It was in a topic about A Hat in Time, which is a fantastic game. People were shitting up every thread with crap about the JonTron cameo (I actually had no idea who JonTron even was before all that). No discussion about the actual game was happening and there were literally people calling others nazis and white supremacist supporters if they bought and played this game. It was absurd. I e-mailed a mod, I think it was Duckroll, to you know -- moderate. He basically told me to go fuck myself. I obviously can't screencap the whole PM now but I do remember him saying "What did you expect?". I hadn't ever asked the GAF mods to do anything before that so it was really shocking to me.

I don't feel that kind of attitude and fostering that kind of behavior helped anything.

I wouldn't say I'm "happy" NeoGAF is gone (or seemingly gone). I enjoyed talking with a lot of the members there. But I can't argue that the entire situation had gotten completely out of hand and was actively ruining something that should be fun: discussing entertainment we enjoy.

[Shuri]

  only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

  This was in 2003 or so...

[tummyfat]

Also, who the fuck responds with 3 paragraphs to the question "are you a pedo"? You fucking weirdo.

Another issue with GAF, is the fact that it's a videogame forum - and the moderators and community acted as if the minutia of every issue must have an opinion exposed to it.

This may be a shocking revelation to some there, but, believe it or not you do NOT have to have an opinion on everything. In fact, you do not even need to harbor political or weird social discussions whatsoever. If I were running the site, years ago I would have taken it into an objective direction and blocked all political or social discussion.

No one from the American Psychiatric Association is going to quote a NeoGAF thread in the next DSM for opinions on pedophilia. And even if NeoGAF were as self important as some think it is, we'll all be buried or ash in 100 years anyway.

I think we can all agree on the fact child abuse is horrible, and should be reported to nearest precinct if needed. And that it's an unfortunate condition if someone is born attracted to children, but they have a choice in the matter to take action or not, or to get chemically castrated or not. Someone born with down syndrome, blindness, or any kind of impairment doesn't even have THAT option. Some should consider their priorities of sympathies and learn the fact you in fact, do not NEED to judge every single person or scenario.

I feel like the issue with the mods is that most were degenerates with absolutely no social skills whatsoever. I'm sure it must be tough to find a normal individual who will willingly volunteer their time to mod a forum as big as gaf with no compensation.

They were paid in power trips and donations to Clinton/Kaine 2016 in their names.

[SwolDic]

I feel like the issue with the mods is that most were degenerates with absolutely no social skills whatsoever. I'm sure it must be tough to find a normal individual who will willingly volunteer their time to mod a forum as big as gaf with no compensation.

Yeah, pretty much. You're in for slim pickings at that point.

[EightBitNate]

What’s the deal with GeoNaf? Who’s in charge of it?

Enough with the pedo stuff. Good God. Shut up. Go to VOAT if you want to talk about that stuff.

I'm not going to stop talking about it until Opiate is gone. Sorry not sorry.

Let’s pretend that he actually is a pedophile: do you think justice can be brought down upon him via arguing with him on the internet? He’s not gonna come out and say “lol shit guys you caught me! i like to diddle kids!” It just makes more sense to ignore him.

[Tasty]

only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

Was that the one with the red/blue/etc. outline men drawn on it? Lol.

[Himu]

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/10/22/gaming-forum-neogaf-offline-following-sexual-assault-allegations-against-site-owner.aspx

[Mr Gilhaney]

only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

Yeah wasn't that where the Wollan meme came from, of drawing those 4 colored guys fucking women?

Imagine doing that on gaf today. 

Well two days ago, since gaf is dead now.

[tummyfat]

only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

  This was in 2003 or so...

That was the original thread where wollan drew the colored outline guys, Everyone remembers that

I'm actually disappointed no one took the pic of Tyler in front of the shower and drew some outline guys in there.

[ModernBoxes]

https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/922092593592373248

It's pretty funny watching all of neogaf's former targets reveling in its demise

I have to admit, I never liked PDP but I subscribed after watching a few of his new vids about the constant witchhunting against him by these fucking loons. The guy is very different than he used to be a decade ago, I kind of like him now.

Oh no! He blurted out a bad word in a moment of frustration! HANG. HIM.

You're the kind of trash that justifies neogaf's harsh moderation policy.

Yeah SHOOT HIM WITH A GUN! TELL HIM WHAT FOR

[VomKriege]

only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

  This was in 2003 or so...

There was an archive link here at some point today.

[Shuri]

only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

Was that the one with the red/blue/etc. outline men drawn on it? Lol.

Actually, I believe that's where it started.. 

[Widdle Puppy]

https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/922092593592373248

It's pretty funny watching all of neogaf's former targets reveling in its demise

I have to admit, I never liked PDP but I subscribed after watching a few of his new vids about the constant witchhunting against him by these fucking loons. The guy is very different than he used to be a decade ago, I kind of like him now.

Oh no! He blurted out a bad word in a moment of frustration! HANG. HIM.

You're the kind of trash that justifies neogaf's harsh moderation policy.

Nothing justifies neogaf's "moderation" "policy."

FOH with that shit, this is not the place for that.

Keeping out racists and apologists so people other than white people can feel welcome on the forum doesn't justify it? What other site of GAF's size were as free from racist insults, innuendos and justifications?

[Tasty]

Let’s pretend that he actually is a pedophile: do you think justice can be brought down upon him via arguing with him on the internet? He’s not gonna come out and say “lol shit guys you caught me! i like to diddle kids!” It just makes more sense to ignore him.

I don't want justice or any of that shit. I just don't want to see any of his posts, ever. If he's here, I'm out. He's only going to invite more of his type and that's not a forum I want to be associated with.

[injurai]

only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

  This was in 2003 or so...

Yeah, I posted about it some 40 pages back.

Honestly, the writing was had been on the wall for ages, I'm surprised it took this long for the deadwood to go up in flame. Malka always cultivated a cult of personality around himself. He got off on fanning the worst sorts of flames.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110712121602/http://www.neogaf.com:80/forum/showthread.php?t=188355

Just look at the type of interactions and company that were worth his time all the way back then.

As much as this whole ordeal is about Malka, it's clear the greater story for people is the OT culture dissolving. There's a bifurcation of people distraught over losing the OT, and relived that the mass exodus means they can take their community elsewhere where the culture is less volatile. It's ironic that retribution heavy culture that stemmed from Evilore's insecurities and need to stifle those that would little him, has now come back to bite him by a horde of mods acting in solidarity against Malka after years of kowtowing to him. It's further ironic that the people who wanted to get away from OT moderation but never would because of the community momentum of gaf, get to do so now because the mods first have left; Conversely, those that clung to the OT to it's final days are now finding refuge in forums populated by user's who have specifically fled gaf's culture and moderation.

[NickFire]

https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/neogaf-offline-amidst-sex-assault-allegations-against-owner-w509871

For the love of all things holy please do not read the comments.  I’m literally still shaking.  My friend’s wife’s cousin’s little sister’s dog’s groomer’s dad was on neogaf just 1 year ago.  Need a shower now.  Thoughts and prayers and I hope this doesn’t make people hate Pelosi.

[Nabbis]

Some Zach guy. Judging by his posts, it's essentially trying to go the same way as Gaf 2017.

[BrainFatigue]

What’s the deal with GeoNaf? Who’s in charge of it?

Enough with the pedo stuff. Good God. Shut up. Go to VOAT if you want to talk about that stuff.

I'm not going to stop talking about it until Opiate is gone. Sorry not sorry.

Let’s pretend that he actually is a pedophile: do you think justice can be brought down upon him via arguing with him on the internet? He’s not gonna come out and say “lol shit guys you caught me! i like to diddle kids!” It just makes more sense to ignore him.

I'm not trying to convince him.
He already knows he's a sick fuck.

I'm trying to make sure everybody else realizes who he is.
And that people don't buy into his lies. "LOL NOT MY FLICKR". 

[D3RANG3D]

only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

  This was in 2003 or so...

Is it the thing with weird outline figures running a train the girl?

[Nintendosbooger]

You're the kind of trash that justifies neogaf's harsh moderation policy.

you give too much power to that word.  fucking relax.

A whole community of people "give too much power to that word." Do you set up seminars and rallies for the folks who are most affected by that word telling them the same thing, or is that a position you only publicly advocate on message boards?

[Rufus]

only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

Was that the one with the red/blue/etc. outline men drawn on it? Lol.

Yeah, Wollan carried that outline thing on. Fun times. Gone, like tears in the rain~

[bud]

someone please like this post. none of my posts on here were ever liked by anyone.

[Polyh3dron]

only gaf og will remember this but..

Do you guys remember when a super drunk girl knocked at Evilore's door and he made a thread showing several pics of her passed out in his bed?

  This was in 2003 or so...

You don’t think.. it wasn’t just neon outlines??

[zomgbbqftw]

Oi, I've been a member since 2013 and haven't posted on gaf for 3 years or so.

[who is ted danson?]

What’s the deal with GeoNaf? Who’s in charge of it?

A few people on twitter saying it is a trap site. Guess that means nobody knows.

[Optimus]

https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/922092593592373248

It's pretty funny watching all of neogaf's former targets reveling in its demise

I have to admit, I never liked PDP but I subscribed after watching a few of his new vids about the constant witchhunting against him by these fucking loons. The guy is very different than he used to be a decade ago, I kind of like him now.

Oh no! He blurted out a bad word in a moment of frustration! HANG. HIM.

What? No hanging?

[Bravotyler]

Remember that time when Driveclub had a completely broken launch and barely functioning servers yet was getting a thread praising it on gaming side every day for two weeks

Remember that time when Black American Psycho didn't even get a permaban after saying he was planning to kill as many white people as possible in an upcoming race war, shortly after making a thread about his interracial fetishes

Remember the one and only time Lime responded to someone asking how he was simultaneously a straight white Danish male uni student and a gay brown American in the midwest, and it was just calling him a Nazi and leaving the thread

Remember that time when the Nintendo E3 thread got hijacked by gay members trying to dox Nintendo employees they thought were attractive and stalking their social media, and the thread just got closed with no bans issued

[SwolDic]

You're the kind of trash that justifies neogaf's harsh moderation policy.

you give too much power to that word.  fucking relax.

A whole community of people "give too much power to that word." Do you set up seminars and rallies for the folks who are most affected by that word telling them the same thing, or is that a position you only publicly advocate on message boards?

Context matters more than just blurting out a word. His choice of words were of poor taste but your fucking rage over it is overblown .

[injusticeforall]

Also, who the fuck responds with 3 paragraphs to the question "are you a pedo"? You fucking weirdo.

Another issue with GAF, is the fact that it's a videogame forum - and the moderators and community acted as if the minutia of every issue must have an opinion exposed to it.

This may be a shocking revelation to some there, but, believe it or not you do NOT have to have an opinion on everything. In fact, you do not even need to harbor political or weird social discussions whatsoever. If I were running the site, years ago I would have taken it into an objective direction and blocked all political or social discussion.

No one from the American Psychiatric Association is going to quote a NeoGAF thread in the next DSM for opinions on pedophilia. And even if NeoGAF were as self important as some think it is, we'll all be buried or ash in 100 years anyway.

I think we can all agree on the fact child abuse is horrible, and should be reported to nearest precinct if needed. And that it's an unfortunate condition if someone is born attracted to children, but they have a choice in the matter to take action or not, or to get chemically castrated or not. Someone born with down syndrome, blindness, or any kind of impairment doesn't even have THAT option. Some should consider their priorities of sympathies and learn the fact you in fact, do not NEED to judge every single person or scenario.

I feel like the issue with the mods is that most were degenerates with absolutely no social skills whatsoever. I'm sure it must be tough to find a normal individual who will willingly volunteer their time to mod a forum as big as gaf with no compensation.

It's definitely odd. You would think some of the individuals had never worked with others or been in an office environment in their life. I can't imagine some of the discussions on there taking place in that way in real life. I sure don't see shouting matches over the sympathies of pedophiles in line at the grocery store or anything.

[Forgotten A. Turnbuckle]

Let’s pretend that he actually is a pedophile: do you think justice can be brought down upon him via arguing with him on the internet? He’s not gonna come out and say “lol shit guys you caught me! i like to diddle kids!” It just makes more sense to ignore him.

I don't want justice or any of that shit. I just don't want to see any of his posts, ever. If he's here, I'm out. He's only going to invite more of his type and that's not a forum I want to be associated with.

The intensity of your post is straight up shades of Amirox.
 

[davepoobond]

oh no im gaf gold too 

[Nintendosbooger]

You're the kind of trash that justifies neogaf's harsh moderation policy.

you give too much power to that word.  fucking relax.

A whole community of people "give too much power to that word." Do you set up seminars and rallies for the folks who are most affected by that word telling them the same thing, or is that a position you only publicly advocate on message boards?

Context matters more than just blurting out a word. His choice of words were of poor taste but your fucking rage over it is overblown .

Context matters.

Express the context in which using that word as he articulated it is okay?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Nah, Andrex is right.  NeoGAF became a pedophile haven because they allowed pedophiles to run wild around the forum.  It's a slippery slope: one day Opiate is posting and the next day there will be a debate on ephebophiles vs. pedophiles.  You got to snuff that shit out at the beginning.

[nachobro]

I leave town to watch a shitty WWE PPV and this is what happens? GAF imploded and I get to see Kurt Angle wrestle. What a day!

[omensetter]

Hey all. Also someone from GAF. Same username.

I just want to talk about video games, film, and television with cool people. The political bs that infected the entire forum was getting completely out of hand. But I consistently just "kept my head down" and focused on talking about that stuff I was there to talk about in the first place. A few weeks ago I started to really dislike the site though, despite being a member since 2010 and lurking since about 2006.

It was in a topic about A Hat in Time, which is a fantastic game. People were shitting up every thread with crap about the JonTron cameo (I actually had no idea who JonTron even was before all that). No discussion about the actual game was happening and there were literally people calling others nazis and white supremacist supporters if they bought and played this game. It was absurd. I e-mailed a mod, I think it was Duckroll, to you know -- moderate. He basically told me to go fuck myself. I obviously can't screencap the whole PM now but I do remember him saying "What did you expect?". I hadn't ever asked the GAF mods to do anything before that so it was really shocking to me.

I don't feel that kind of attitude and fostering that kind of behavior helped anything.

I wouldn't say I'm "happy" NeoGAF is gone (or seemingly gone). I enjoyed talking with a lot of the members there. But I can't argue that the entire situation had gotten completely out of hand and was actively ruining something that should be fun: discussing entertainment we enjoy.

the Hat in Time stuff was fucking ridiculous. if you filtered out every piece of media you consumed based on whether anyone even parenthetically involved in it has expressed shitty opinions then you wouldn't be left with a whole lot. JonTron is an unfunny idiot but it seems a bit disproportionate to shit up all discussion of a game based on a small cameo that had been recorded years ago.

[Rahxephon91]

https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/922092593592373248

It's pretty funny watching all of neogaf's former targets reveling in its demise

I have to admit, I never liked PDP but I subscribed after watching a few of his new vids about the constant witchhunting against him by these fucking loons. The guy is very different than he used to be a decade ago, I kind of like him now.

Oh no! He blurted out a bad word in a moment of frustration! HANG. HIM.

What? No hanging?

No because I'm not a fucktard who says the n-word when I get mad at a video game. Amazingly, I also have control not to say the N-word when I get mad at work because I guess I'm a decent human being and has I don't know.....self control?

[brobuzz]

I leave town to watch a shitty WWE PPV and this is what happens? GAF imploded and I get to see Kurt Angle wrestle. What a day!

Stop giving WWE your money, fucking mark.

[Rufus]

What’s the deal with GeoNaf? Who’s in charge of it?

Enough with the pedo stuff. Good God. Shut up. Go to VOAT if you want to talk about that stuff.

I'm not going to stop talking about it until Opiate is gone. Sorry not sorry.

Let’s pretend that he actually is a pedophile: do you think justice can be brought down upon him via arguing with him on the internet? He’s not gonna come out and say “lol shit guys you caught me! i like to diddle kids!” It just makes more sense to ignore him.

I'm not trying to convince him.
He already knows he's a sick fuck.

I'm trying to make sure everybody else realizes who he is.
And that people don't buy into his lies. "LOL NOT MY FLICKR".

Since you reminded me what the account name was - I don't see why you think it's his outside of the account name being the same. It's just some random Russian person's account, judging by some of the locations and a group they follow. Where are you making the connection to it being from Opiate's region?

[Kyougar]

I was a semiactive neogaf poster for 3 or 4 years. I consider myself a liberal, feminist and pro LGBT. Since gamergate I feared to express my opinion on Neogaf. There was no middle-ground. Questioning "commercial Victims" (you know the type, who have Patreon sites being a professional victim of harassment of white males) got you banned. So even if you wanted to discuss the militarization of Feminism and the wrong road it is going, you couldn't because you were automatically a rapist racist.

It got even more militant last year. Suddenly everything that didn't fit into the narrative was harassment. Asking a Dev why we should kickstart his new game when he didn't finish his last, suddenly was a "harassment campaign" and the users gamergators. On the other hand, there was a thread this week trying to get an Obsidian dev fired because he didn't know a shitty meme is considered offensive for trans people and this is suddenly not harassment.

And I can't even fathom, that, according to Opiate, the mods are primarily PC first when PC threads are invaded and shit on, or PC focused youtubers get shit on and nothing happens to the users. But try to do this shit in a sony or nintendo thread and you get permed.

[Dougstyles]

Jason Schreier must be broken up that his personal fanclub is gone forever, not a single soul left to pat his bald spot and call him a good journalist.

[Kartik]

Giving new users Gaf gold is discrimination

[Mr. Nobody]

Think Kurt Angle's neck is going to hold up tonight brehs 

[toku]

we also not gonna defend pdp here saying that shit because it's not the first time he's got in trouble for bullshit like this. Do you regularly blurt out foul shit at your work place when you get frustrated? No? Why? Because there are consequences right? Then lets hold someone with a massive audience of children accountable please. He knows better, he can fucking do better.

[omensetter]

the question now is, where will Neil Druckmann crowdsource story ideas for the next Naughty Dog game??

[VomKriege]

Nah, Andrex is right.  NeoGAF became a pedophile haven because they allowed pedophiles to run wild around the forum.  It's a slippery slope: one day Opiate is posting and the next day there will be a debate on ephebophiles vs. pedophiles.  You got to snuff that shit out at the beginning.

Opiate and 80% of all the guys flooding the thread won't be here 3 days from now, most probably. Thread is unreadable, by the way.

Not to defend Opiate nor that I care if you want to be antagonistic to him.

[Cory]

we also not gonna defend pdp here saying that shit because it's not the first time he's got in trouble for bullshit like this. Do you regularly blurt out foul shit at your work place when you get frustrated? No? Why? Because there are consequences right? Then lets hold someone with a massive audience of children accountable please. He knows better, he can fucking do better.

Thank you. He has a history and there’s no excuse for that shit.

[HaughtyFrank]

Jason Schreier must be broken up that his personal fanclub is gone forever, not a single soul left to pat his bald spot and call him a good journalist.

I don't know about that.
After he wrote a piece about the recent ND allegations people on gaf called his article a hitpiece etc. because it happened to be not 100% favorable to the victim.

[Mr. Nobody]

we also not gonna defend pdp here saying that shit because it's not the first time he's got in trouble for bullshit like this. Do you regularly blurt out foul shit at your work place when you get frustrated? No? Why? Because there are consequences right? Then lets hold someone with a massive audience of children accountable please. He knows better, he can fucking do better.

These people know better bro, don't even bother.

[nachobro]

Think Kurt Angle's neck is going to hold up tonight brehs 

Much like I'm not convinced of the demise of GAF, I'm not convinced that he'll actually do anything in the match other than come down the ramp and get a  lot of cheers. But that'll still be pretty cool.

[salva]

Remember that time when the Nintendo E3 thread got hijacked by gay members trying to dox Nintendo employees they thought were attractive and stalking their social media, and the thread just got closed with no bans issued

wtf lol

[FreeNudeLyleLanley]

someone please like this post. none of my posts on here were ever liked by anyone.

Maybe if you mentioned Bobby robberts.

[who is ted danson?]

someone please like this post. none of my posts on here were ever liked by anyone.

Maybe if you mentioned Bobby robberts.

who?

[Kurt Russell]

Call a place full of people attacking the ACLU “left”, brehs.

Would you rather the term alt-left?  I realize that using the terms 'left' and 'right' can be broad and meaningless in the current political landscape, but make no doubt that anti free speech rhetoric these days is coming squarely from the left.

That'll be the ctrl-left then 

[demi]

1 ) I dont know what this GAF Gold thing is, must be the others messing with settings to be funny

2 ) Is that THE Bacon? Oh how blessed we are by your presence again

[Nabbis]

someone please like this post. none of my posts on here were ever liked by anyone.

Maybe if you mentioned Bobby robberts.

who?

Exactly, kiddo.