Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[wsippel]

Yup, that's a Kotaku article...

[I'm a Puppy!]

Tatonka!!!

got any word from cyan, if you're still in contact?

He's on my facebook. Don't know if he'd care much for the bore. The main reason he hung around gaf was the writing challenges

[VomKriege]

Please tell me I haven't missed THE STATEMENT.

You haven't and never will, judging by the pace of things.
THE STATEMENT will always be there, so close yet so far, as an ideal state to aspire too.

[Occam]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Oh, wow. Of all the reasons for NeoGAF to implode...

[Boredfrom]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

  

I suppose that was the reason why she didn't press charges

[John Dunbar]

Tatonka!!!

got any word from cyan, if you're still in contact?

He's on my facebook. Don't know if he'd care much for the bore. The main reason he hung around gaf was the writing challenges

he stopped participating in them some time ago, thinking that maybe his writing revolves around them too much. good timing.

[Nintex]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

"He was like totally my friend with benefits but then everyone said he was creepy and Cindy said: "Woah Girl, you seriously hooked up with that guy?" so now I think this is harassment as to not embarrass my friends." 

[Nabbis]

The hilarity if that sex cult thing was actually true. If i was not an agnostic i might think God planned the ultimate prank on his ass.

[Stark25]

So what was with thread closures giving the line that the moderators who had stepped down did so because some personal information had been leaked/doxxed/whatever and they wanted to protect their privacy.  Clearly most mods just left to disassociate with GAF, but was there any substance at all to that excuse?

[Shaka Khan]

Tatonka!!!

got any word from cyan, if you're still in contact?

He's on my facebook. Don't know if he'd care much for the bore. The main reason he hung around gaf was the writing challenges

He can come here and challenge himself to out-write opiate.

[jiji]

At this point in my life, the idea of GAF offshoots being formed makes me realize I don't care about joining a new gaming forum. I just wanna shoot the shit with old gaffers and talk about Star Trek.

RIP Mormon/Exmormon community thread   

[nudemacusers]

Damn.. his failed attempt at seducing a chick he later banged being the source of his livelihood crumbling is the kind of thing that makes Elliot Rogers out of people. Ouch.

[John Dunbar]

So what was with thread closures giving the line that the moderators who had stepped down did so because some personal information had been leaked/doxxed/whatever and they wanted to protect their privacy.  Clearly most mods just left to disassociate with GAF, but was there any substance at all to that excuse?

the desperation of modbot in the final moments was pure baghdad bob.

[SwolDic]

it's amazing that this is what happens to this guy. his whole entire site was bent around shutting moderate voices down, banning anyone that promoted caution and not over exaggerating shit exactly like this because it can ruin people's careers without any evidence at all and then BOOM this shit happens to him. It's unfuckingbelievable

[EightBitNate]

Oh shit the Kotaku article’s out? How many times is Bobby’s name dropped?

[Boredfrom]

No wonder why she wanted it to keep it private. Evilore is still a creeper scumbag but... Was the networking worth it?

[Occam]

I guess this thread is as good as any to ask, what does "junior member" mean here?

[tuna_love]

Oh shut the Kotaku article’s out? How many times is Bobby’s name dropped?

just one easter egg

[SwolDic]

No wonder why she wanted it to keep it private. Evilore is still a creeper scumbag but... Was the networking worth it?

what is really scary is why would she then go and post the #metoo nonsense. you stayed friends with the guy and then banged him. lol

[tuna_love]

I guess this thread is as good as any to ask, what does "junior member" mean here?

it means opiate takes a special interest in you

[maninthemirror]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Wait what cult story

[Rise]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Oh, wow. Of all the reasons for NeoGAF to implode...

it's absolutely perfect. undone by the same sort of unsubstantiated pillorying that gaf encouraged.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I guess this thread is as good as any to ask, what does "junior member" mean here?

That you can't be trusted

[nudemacusers]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Oh, wow. Of all the reasons for NeoGAF to implode...

it's absolutely perfect. undone by the same sort of unsubstantiated pillorying that gaf encouraged.

And in true gaf fashion, only a tiny percentage will follow up on the initial story.

[Himu]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

[Jenkem]

wait.. if that sex cult thing is possibly true...

and neogaf was a top referrer to hillaryclinton.com

[Nabbis]

Man... I actually feel bad for Tyler. 

[Bravotyler]

The mods hated the community threads because they distanced themselves from the core of the site and often shit on it. The site staff was considered a joke in every community thread I stuck around in, nobody felt like posting in Gaming/OT was worthwhile anymore. Everybody started retreating into premade Discords rather than losing their minds as the ship went down like RinsFury or RPGCrazied; they've been getting away from NeoGAF for a while now. All the quality posters left long ago and all that were left were the Crossing Edens and Loudninjas.

[Dougstyles]

Ah yes, a crackdown on progressive ideals was truly the downfall of Neogaf. Classic Kotaku.

[Occam]

Damn.. his failed attempt at seducing a chick he later banged being the source of his livelihood crumbling is the kind of thing that makes Elliot Rogers out of people. Ouch.

It just shows that a great number of people weren't happy at NeoGAF (but were unable to say so because it was an autocracy), and it had to boil over at some point.

[Mr Gilhaney]

"she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015"

[Himu]

Is Tyler going to sue her for defamation? Polyhedron come get your friend.

[T-Short]

I guess this thread is as good as any to ask, what does "junior member" mean here?

Usually it means that your dick pics have been received but are still in a queue waiting to be processed by demi

[Bitmap Frogs]

I swear I made an account with this username last time I got banned.

Do you guys purge accounts?

probably not, they still had this account which is from 2008. i actually have even an older account here that is from 2007 connected to my usual email.

Yeah, I've had this account since 2006 and I'm pretty sure yesterday was the first time I logged on in over a decade.

I must've registered with a different username then.

[maninthemirror]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Oh, wow. Of all the reasons for NeoGAF to implode...

it's absolutely perfect. undone by the same sort of unsubstantiated pillorying that gaf encouraged.

it was their own outrage culture which killed it. Now that should be in the Webster dictionary

[injurai]

No wonder why she wanted it to keep it private. Evilore is still a creeper scumbag but... Was the networking worth it?

what is really scary is why would she then go and post the #metoo nonsense. you stayed friends with the guy and then banged him. lol

It sounds like he creeped on her, but given the circumstances maybe she assumed he was trashed and reading the wrong signals. It seems she became more familiar with his personality and reputation over time and came to see that encounter for what it was. So in lieu of the #metoo movement it was the best time for her to find security against the background of a popular thrust to oust perverts and sex abusers.

She isn't pressing charges but merely spoke the truth and let people react on their own freewill, which just so happened to be his entire inner circle turning on him.

[arrow]

New details in the kotaku article:

She should have asked that mod why the mod team didn't walk off after Amirox was outed as a pedo and any conversation about him buried (and enforced by the same mods).

that would be against the narrative, that all the mods are heroes standing up against saxual harassment. You know, every article who mentions, that the mods stepped down in protest? When there was zero official communication from the mods. Modbot said they were stepping down because of privacy issues and besada only said he is no longer afilliated.

Actually, Besada got banned. Perhaps he voiced an opinion that differed from site policy? I hope he enjoyed the irony.

[VomKriege]

I'm feeling super dumb here but because they slept together at one point later doesn't make the incident less inappropriate. Like couples or hook ups having FU dynamics is a thing.
She didn't really claim anything more originally than this specific incident in a NOLA hotel room.
There's not really more to say with the little info we have.

[SwolDic]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Oh, wow. Of all the reasons for NeoGAF to implode...

it's absolutely perfect. undone by the same sort of unsubstantiated pillorying that gaf encouraged.

it was their own outrage culture which killed it. Now that should be in the Webster dictionary

there's no way this isn't the doing of a heavenly higher power. there's now way. it's too perfect.

[maninthemirror]

This sex with everything that moves thinking has brought down the downfall of so many . I dunno if it’s sad or glorious

[Himu]

I can't stop laughing

[Boredfrom]

No wonder why she wanted it to keep it private. Evilore is still a creeper scumbag but... Was the networking worth it?

what is really scary is why would she then go and post the #metoo nonsense. you stayed friends with the guy and then banged him. lol

Being fair, it doesn't mean it she was not creeped out and uncomfortable about Lore entering naked to her shower, just that her career is more important. She did wanted to maintain it private and just sharing it with a small group of friends.

Still, woah...

[counterhit]

What screwed evilore over was creating a system that was completely immune to criticism so as long the mods obeyed him. So mods had all the power (and acted like it) and once they got fed up with his shit or he took them for granted, the thing would implode instantly. Had he acted less like he was untouchable, he may turned this to a grave wound rather than a fatal one.

Also not being a pseud-PUA dork.

[TakingBackSunday]

So what have I missed

[Averon]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

[Boredfrom]

No wonder why she wanted it to keep it private. Evilore is still a creeper scumbag but... Was the networking worth it?

what is really scary is why would she then go and post the #metoo nonsense. you stayed friends with the guy and then banged him. lol

She still can, dude. Do you think women go around thinking "this is rape, that is rape, EVERYTHING is harassment"? She probably thought she must have done something wrong back then. Later she might have realized that she was creeped out by it and still felt creeped out. People have dated others who have abused or assaulted them before, she might have bad judgement but I don't blame her for feeling harassed.

Exactly.

[etiolate]

That girl does not make good life decisions.

[Mr. Nobody]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

  

I suppose that was the reason why she didn't press charges

What a mess.

[nudemacusers]

I'm feeling super dumb here but because they slept together at one point later doesn't make the incident less inappropriate. Like couples or hook ups having FU dynamics is a thing.
She didn't really claim anything more originally than this specific incident in a NOLA hotel room.
There's not really more to say with the little info we have.

Off course, it’s just of mild irony that the nature of how this impacted gaf is, well, pure unfiltered gaf.

[MIMIC]

Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

I'm black and when I heard that story, I thought the guy was wasting his time but I wasn't going to have an aneurysm over it.

[T-Short]

Sorry if I'm being totally obvious here, but why would it matter if shower girl stayed friends with Tyler and even had relations with him afterwards? Why would that "hurt her credibility"? Sexual force and coercion is very common in marriages and long-term relationships that can go on for a long time afterwards. The societal norm dictates that guilt/blame/shame lies with the woman, so she very often keeps quiet and soldiers on. But you all know this of course.

Edit: Already posted by others. Whew.

[Opiate]

This was his defense back in 2012. Why wasn't it the last straw back then?

Because -- at least for me -- it was the first straw (he may have done things before then, but I only joined GAF in 09). I can definitely see an argument for leaving then, but I also think one has to be careful with this sort of stand: if you refuse to work with anyone who has done something inarguably bad, then you would fairly quickly find yourself working alone. They have to do a sufficient number of things that make you say, "I simply cannot overlook this person's flaws any longer."

Please note also that I'm speaking for the other moderators, and cannot say this was their thinking. But it was certainly mine, before the decision was made for me (thus making any profession of purity moot).

[Sampdoria]

Wasn't evilore almost raped in Turkey that one time?

[BlackMage]

My wife tried to rape me last night when I was drunk

#methree

[thehunter116]

You’ll notice no gaf mods were harmed in the creation of this article

They aren't mods anymore.

That's how you kill them.

[etiolate]

My wife tried to rape me last night when I was drunk

#methree

I'm just told that it's very common.

[VomKriege]

I'm feeling super dumb here but because they slept together at one point later doesn't make the incident less inappropriate. Like couples or hook ups having FU dynamics is a thing.
She didn't really claim anything more originally than this specific incident in a NOLA hotel room.
There's not really more to say with the little info we have.

Off course, it’s just of mild irony that the nature of how this impacted gaf is, well, pure unfiltered gaf.

Oh sure.
Like with the Spanish ass grabbing, it's really Evilore over the top reaction that damned him everytime moreso than the gravity of the incidents (which one may find abbhorent but could have been smoothed over with apologies).

[SwolDic]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

Let's be real here. Clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to her if she continued to be friends with him and then even had a physical relationship with the guy after.

The question is why the fuck did she bring this up? This diminishes the viability of women that are harmed by predatory behavior.

[Averon]

One long-time mod told me that the mods had considered walking out several times in the past, but “we felt like sticking it out to keep the good parts of the community together.” But, the mod said, a direct accusation of sexual misconduct gave them a “moral compunction to trust the victim’s account and disassociate myself.”

The mods stuck with EL and even helped him cover up Amir0x. They lied, claiming that they always hated Amir0x and didn't even know the guy's name. They lost any right to moral authority after that.

[Nervousxtian]

why are you inserting so many spaces at the start of each sentence?

Habit I started back in BBS days.    Hard to break typing habits that are 30+ years old as this point.