Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[joe_zazen]

.

[Oblivion]

So gaf is finally dead, eh?

You know what this means: It's Demi's and Great Rumbler's time to shine!

[injurai]

That's my point brother.  Whether you agree with my politics or not, demonizing half the country that supports the President is BS.  Never mind the fact that the Left of GAF essentially declared ANYONE not extreme left to be a Nazi.

It was fucking ridiculous, especially for a forum claiming to be a "neutral meeting ground" for discussion.  The place was anything but, more like an ideological echo chamber where WrongThink would be dealt with swiftly and harshly via pile ons then bans.

I'm just glad you are able to admit you think wrong; it's the first step to recovery.

I would also add that if your goal is to persuade people, just about the worst thing you can do is ban them / ostracize them. Most people's defensive shields go up when they are thrown out of a community, and it's very difficult to admit you're wrong under those circumstances.

The confusion here is why this ex-NeoGAF Trump supporter thought he'd find those of like mind on The Bore.

Probably because the hive was convinced everywhere else on the internet was an alt-right hovel. Must have really done a number on trump-gaf's heads. Thinking they had supporters at the borders.

[Atramental]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

That’s kinda what I mean.  I don’t understand how anyone can feel passionately about either of them.  The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.

One could argue that Clinton is lawful evil and Trump is chaotic evil. 

[EightBitNate]

There has to be some law that states that the longer a thread goes on, the likelihood that it turns into a US politics discussion approaches one 

[Nola]

That's my point brother.  Whether you agree with my politics or not, demonizing half the country that supports the President is BS.  Never mind the fact that the Left of GAF essentially declared ANYONE not extreme left to be a Nazi.

It was fucking ridiculous, especially for a forum claiming to be a "neutral meeting ground" for discussion.  The place was anything but, more like an ideological echo chamber where WrongThink would be dealt with swiftly and harshly via pile ons then bans.

I'm just glad you are able to admit you think wrong; it's the first step to recovery.

I would also add that if your goal is to persuade people, just about the worst thing you can do is ban them / ostracize them. Most people's defensive shields go up when they are thrown out of a community, and it's very difficult to admit you're wrong under those circumstances.

The confusion here is why this ex-NeoGAF Trump supporter thought he'd find those of like mind on The Bore.

Didn't you hear? This is an alt-right haven similar to Voat or The_Donald. Between the hours of 1-4am the logo at the top switches over to a series of rotating Pepe memes to reflect our true values.

[Opiate]

And Timedog, that first response was not serious. I certainly remember several of our interactions, and I remember you as a good poster (amazing, I know), but it's quite likely I literally never read that post. It happens, sometimes.

[Let's Cyber]

I don't know why so many people like the high speed/low quality style of message boards like neogaf, trying to keep up with this thread since last night has been miserable.

honestly I'm just getting some free posts in before this thread is no longer relevant and is sent off to pasture in the Dysfunctional Hall of Fame.

it's impossible to actually keep up with all this nonsense and I usually enjoy this type GAF fuckery.

[FartOfWar]

I don't get how there's a market of people hungry for GAF moderation. "GAF mod" on a resume is incriminating if anything. I don't get why GAF mods are hungry to moderate more forums. Where they getting the time to work without pay? None of it makes any sense.

[joe_zazen]

.

[ZephyrFate]

That's my point brother.  Whether you agree with my politics or not, demonizing half the country that supports the President is BS.  Never mind the fact that the Left of GAF essentially declared ANYONE not extreme left to be a Nazi.

It was fucking ridiculous, especially for a forum claiming to be a "neutral meeting ground" for discussion.  The place was anything but, more like an ideological echo chamber where WrongThink would be dealt with swiftly and harshly via pile ons then bans.

I'm just glad you are able to admit you think wrong; it's the first step to recovery.

I would also add that if your goal is to persuade people, just about the worst thing you can do is ban them / ostracize them. Most people's defensive shields go up when they are thrown out of a community, and it's very difficult to admit you're wrong under those circumstances.

The confusion here is why this ex-NeoGAF Trump supporter thought he'd find those of like mind on The Bore.

Didn't you hear? This is an alt-right haven similar to Voat or The_Donald. Between the hours of 1-4am the logo at the top switches over to a series of rotating Pepe memes to reflect our true values.

oh, right

I forget that I get called a taco every time I login and post here

truly a safe haven for Trump fans.

[Atramental]

I don't get how there's a market of people hungry for GAF moderation. "GAF mod" on a resume is incriminating if anything. I don't get why GAF mods are hungry to moderate more forums. Where they getting the time to work without pay? None of it makes any sense.

Some people are into BDSM and Dominatrixes. One person's pain is another person's pleasure.

[hungrynoob]

I will preface this by saying I absolutely do not like trump.

However, do you honestly believe that all trump supporters hold up the same discriminatory umbrella? Just because we can see on a continual basis how much of a fuck up trump is doesnt mean there arent a lot of people among the racists who voted for trump in hopes of an economical turnaround and are still hoping for, keep in mind many things he says are aimed at stringing his voter base along also, just because you can see through it does not mean everyone can.

I'm sorry but taking such an absolute stance on any (political) subject is incredibly naive.

[Oblivion]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.

Especially with their pizza/child sex ring.

[Atramental]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.

Especially with their pizza/child sex ring.

lol

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how do you like your cheese pizza?

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[Nola]

I don't know why so many people like the high speed/low quality style of message boards like neogaf, trying to keep up with this thread since last night has been miserable.

honestly I'm just getting some free posts in before this thread is no longer relevant and is sent off to pasture in the Dysfunctional Hall of Fame.

it's impossible to actually keep up with all this nonsense and I usually enjoy this type GAF fuckery.

IDK, ResetERA is shaping up to become Neogaf's worst tendencies on steroids. Should be a well of entertainment....At least for the month or two that it lasts before imploding.

[Momo]

morning my dudes,

anything happen for the past 30 pages?

[OpinionatedCyborg]

I don't get how there's a market of people hungry for GAF moderation. "GAF mod" on a resume is incriminating if anything. I don't get why GAF mods are hungry to moderate more forums. Where they getting the time to work without pay? None of it makes any sense.

I don't get it either, but there's 1200 people in a discord (currently with invites closed), many of whom want the old mods to come back. And those who don't want the old mods back want the old style of moderation back. They don't get that many of the mods were complicit in recent events.

I'm guessing they're getting paid by social security.

[Bamelin]

anyone who complains about "Social Studies Warriors" or the "ctrl-left" (possibly even stupider than the concept of "alt-left") while admitting they are a Trump supporter automatically places your opinion in a dumpster fire.

Your opinion.  There were massive amounts of posters that hate Social Studies Warrior bullshit and just wanted to talk about games.  When the Social Studies Warrior garbage spilled into Gaming over Gamergate it was the beginning of the end for GAF.  It's also when the modding developed an ideological bent that placed political WrongThink over what was actually important on GAF - gaming

I mean, it's pretty much fact. Trump is a piece of shit on many, many different levels. Your inability to see that isn't my problem, nor do I understand why you think The Bore is a safe space for this

I think the Bore isn't GAF, and different political opinions are welcome here.  Your "HALP MODS" won't work here.

Not even calling for moderation here. Just saying that you're going to be shit on continuously every time you post about supporting Trump. If that's your fetish, well, have fun

And that's fine.  Free speech is what it is, I'm happy to engage in debate.  On GAF that wasn't allowed WrongThink was banned, which resulted in a massive portion of users banned, moving to Kotaku in Action and other discussion sites.

The emphasis on politics RUINED the site simply because ideologically left bent mods purged all discussion that didn't fit their feels.   

[nomis]

I don't get how there's a market of people hungry for GAF moderation. "GAF mod" on a resume is incriminating if anything. I don't get why GAF mods are hungry to moderate more forums. Where they getting the time to work without pay? None of it makes any sense.

getting the last word in a forum thread must be a helluva drug

also if you’re shawn, thank you for citing the bore on twitter yesterday. gaf mods had successfully scrubbed all mentions of it from reaching my eye balls before then, but thanks to that tweet about shower-gate, i was able to F5 this thread and see the whole thing go down in real time. 

[OnlyRegret]

On the subjects of mods and exmods
Where is Steve Bloodbath?

[El Babua]

You know, after 2 days of this dumpster fire, like 90% of this could have been avoided if Lore immediately admitted he was a creep for all his past indiscretions and apologized. Maybe stop posting and have Stump or some other lackey become a figurehead and keep collecting the checks.

Dude really had no self-awareness, or the capacity to see himself other than what he projected to GAF smh

[ZephyrFate]

anyone who complains about "Social Studies Warriors" or the "ctrl-left" (possibly even stupider than the concept of "alt-left") while admitting they are a Trump supporter automatically places your opinion in a dumpster fire.

Your opinion.  There were massive amounts of posters that hate Social Studies Warrior bullshit and just wanted to talk about games.  When the Social Studies Warrior garbage spilled into Gaming over Gamergate it was the beginning of the end for GAF.  It's also when the modding developed an ideological bent that placed political WrongThink over what was actually important on GAF - gaming

I mean, it's pretty much fact. Trump is a piece of shit on many, many different levels. Your inability to see that isn't my problem, nor do I understand why you think The Bore is a safe space for this

I think the Bore isn't GAF, and different political opinions are welcome here.  Your "HALP MODS" won't work here.

Not even calling for moderation here. Just saying that you're going to be shit on continuously every time you post about supporting Trump. If that's your fetish, well, have fun

And that's fine.  Free speech is what it is, I'm happy to engage in debate.  On GAF that wasn't allowed WrongThink was banned, which resulted in a massive portion of users banned, moving to Kotaku in Action and other discussion sites.

The emphasis on politics RUINED the site simply because ideologically left bent mods purged all discussion that didn't fit their feels.

tbh I don't even know what people have to do to get banned here

[Opiate]

I don't get how there's a market of people hungry for GAF moderation. "GAF mod" on a resume is incriminating if anything. I don't get why GAF mods are hungry to moderate more forums. Where they getting the time to work without pay? None of it makes any sense.

I don't get it either, but there's 1200 people in a discord (currently with invites closed), many of whom want the old mods to come back. And those who don't want the old mods back want the old style of moderation back. They don't get that many of the mods were complicit in recent events.

Haven't been on GAF in some time, obviously, but I think there is probably a split between people who 1) Thought GAF had been going downhill for the last few years and 2) People who thought everything was totally fine until suddenly disaster struck and the whole thing suddenly fell apart. For the latter, a complete return of the entire moderation staff might be appealing. I do think several of the moderators (at least when I was around) were excellent and would be fantastic curators on essentially any forum they had basic knowledge of.

[clothedmacuser]

The confusion here is why this ex-NeoGAF Trump supporter thought he'd find those of like mind on The Bore.

   Some sites are trying to say this is Voat-lite.   Thankfully those posters have plenty who point out this is just a forum that doesn't ban idiot jackasses but lets them be insulted and harassed.

Example.



Sit in your shame!  Sit in it and remember this! 

Was that gif too much?

[Atramental]

morning my dudes,

anything happen for the past 30 pages?

nah

[JesusDaBeast]

I checked this place out because someone recommended it as Gaf was going down in flames. It seemed alright enough, so I registered and here I am.

Gaf was getting ridiculous anyway and there were many times I considered account suiciding, so with it all going to shit, it feels like I've been relieved of a burden. I'm not too mad at the way things ended up.

The funniest memory I have is when gaffers dogpiled me for suggesting that Trump was not sexist for calling a woman "fit and beautiful." There were a few similar instances that happened to me and I remember some dude with a black cat avatar was always at the center of the dogpile. Fucking hated that guy.

Btw, anyone know why I can't get an avatar working? I put in the url, press change profile, but nothing happens.

[Clockwork]

IDK, ResetERA is shaping up to become Neogaf's worst tendencies on steroids. Should be a well of entertainment....At least for the month or two that it lasts before imploding.

It might be good for GAF in the long run if some of these people stay at offshoot sites like that. Perhaps GAF could return to some normalcy then.

[Himu]

I will preface this by saying I absolutely do not like trump.

However, do you honestly believe that all trump supporters hold up the same discriminatory umbrella? Just because we can see on a continual basis how much of a fuck up trump is doesnt mean there arent a lot of people among the racists who voted for trump in hopes of an economical turnaround and are still hoping for, keep in mind many things he says are aimed at stringing his voter base along also, just because you can see through it does not mean everyone can.

I'm sorry but taking such an absolute stance on any (political) subject is incredibly naive.

This isn't the recently dead forum Neogaf. We can be anti-Trump while still recognizing that not all of his supporters are racist shit heels. But they sure did vote for one. Anyways, most of us can kinda understand - maybe - on a conceptual level why someone would vote for Trump (depending on their reasons of course) but that is not here or there because the administration has spent the entire past year fucking America in the ass without lube and doesn't justify why you would still support him now, after all this time.

[thehunter116]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

That’s kinda what I mean.  I don’t understand how anyone can feel passionately about either of them.  The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.

One could argue that Clinton is lawful evil and Trump is chaotic stupid evil. 

More accurate.

[Propagandhim]

I don't get how there's a market of people hungry for GAF moderation. "GAF mod" on a resume is incriminating if anything. I don't get why GAF mods are hungry to moderate more forums. Where they getting the time to work without pay? None of it makes any sense.

Right.  Beseda, Kagari, et all couldn't even wait 24 hours without shoving themselves to the front of the food line in the discord refugee camp to vouch for modship again.  It's weird

[Oblivion]

I will preface this by saying I absolutely do not like trump.

However, do you honestly believe that all trump supporters hold up the same discriminatory umbrella? Just because we can see on a continual basis how much of a fuck up trump is doesnt mean there arent a lot of people among the racists who voted for trump in hopes of an economical turnaround and are still hoping for, keep in mind many things he says are aimed at stringing his voter base along also, just because you can see through it does not mean everyone can.

I'm sorry but taking such an absolute stance on any (political) subject is incredibly naive.

Trump was the most openly racist candidate in a goddamned generation.

The people who voted for him either 1) love the racist shit he's said or 2) don't care about the racist shit he's said. Neither are really admirable reasons to support him.

[daemon]

You know, after 2 days of this dumpster fire, like 90% of this could have been avoided if Lore immediately admitted he was a creep for all his past indiscretions and apologized. Maybe stop posting and have Stump or some other lackey become a figurehead and keep collecting the checks.

Dude really had no self-awareness, or the capacity to see himself other than what he projected to GAF smh

Yes yes, but you'd have to remember he'd be addressing GAF, not somewhere with people who understand people might fuck up once or twice in their lifetime

[clothedmacuser]

I checked this place out because someone recommended it as Gaf was going down in flames. It seemed alright enough, so I registered and here I am.

Gaf was getting ridiculous anyway and there were many times I considered account suiciding, so with it all going to shit, it feels like I've been relieved of a burden. I'm not too mad at the way things ended up.

The funniest memory I have is when gaffers dogpiled me for suggesting that Trump was not sexist for calling a woman "fit and beautiful." There were a few similar instances that happened to me and I remember some dude with a black cat avatar was always at the center of the dogpile. Fucking hated that guy.

Haha.  GAF dog piled me for saying that Obama calling that female governor "beautiful" was technically a sexist move.

[Jansen]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

That’s kinda what I mean.  I don’t understand how anyone can feel passionately about either of them.  The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.   

you are one dumb motherfucker then

[OpinionatedCyborg]

I kinda hope evilore deletes the entirety of the site in an attempt to destroy evidence just so all my old embarrassing posts from 2009-10 can be purged from memory.

Yeah, I am now regretting permabanned instead of just having my entire post history purged.

[Boredfrom]

I will preface this by saying I absolutely do not like trump.

However, do you honestly believe that all trump supporters hold up the same discriminatory umbrella? Just because we can see on a continual basis how much of a fuck up trump is doesnt mean there arent a lot of people among the racists who voted for trump in hopes of an economical turnaround and are still hoping for, keep in mind many things he says are aimed at stringing his voter base along also, just because you can see through it does not mean everyone can.

I'm sorry but taking such an absolute stance on any (political) subject is incredibly naive.

It becomes more and more difficult to try to empathize with this people as Trump fuckery goes on. The fact that the only thing that seem to react unfavorably against him is when he nos openly hostile about immigration... Welp

[Nola]

I will preface this by saying I absolutely do not like trump.

However, do you honestly believe that all trump supporters hold up the same discriminatory umbrella? Just because we can see on a continual basis how much of a fuck up trump is doesnt mean there arent a lot of people among the racists who voted for trump in hopes of an economical turnaround and are still hoping for, keep in mind many things he says are aimed at stringing his voter base along also, just because you can see through it does not mean everyone can.

I'm sorry but taking such an absolute stance on any (political) subject is incredibly naive.

I think this would be a good discussion to have in the politics thread and I would actually be interested in seeing some new voices pop up over there to shake things up(other than etoilet popping up to occasionally hand out L's, it gets pretty routine), I guess I just am still baffled a what the process was that people went through where they actually believe Trump was ever anything but a snake oil salesman in it for his own brand advancement? To the point of actually thinking the guy had some economic policy ideas that checked out as credible and viable? I mean this is a guy who's administration's first shot at a budget outline included an egregious and than absurdly defended accounting error stemming from a long-discredited economic theory.

I don't think I have ever seen a politician that more embodied the empty suit caricature of a politician than Trump. Still does. But I am genuinely fascinated by what others supposedly see. At least the ones that went just party line tribalists or racists.

[clothedmacuser]

I kinda hope evilore deletes the entirety of the site in an attempt to destroy evidence just so all my old embarrassing posts from 2009-10 can be purged from memory.

I know what you mean.  I was an elite W of SJW's.  I feel bad for making that culture acceptable

[joe_zazen]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.

Especially with their pizza/child sex ring.

I think it stems from this quote from Bill’s lawyer which I was exposed to in 1997:  “His erect penis is about five inches long, has the circumference of a quarter (a shade less than a 2p coin) and heads off at an angle, presumably rather like a finger bent at the joint.”http://www.independent.co.uk/news/no-moles-no-growths-but-clinton-has-his-blemishes-1294429.html

[Opiate]

I will say that even the most optimistic recovery for NeoGAF at this point is relatively disastrous: even if the site is back up tomorrow, EvilLore apologizes, and a new moderation staff is brought in within weeks, significant damage will have already been done. The site has been down for 24+ hours. People are openly, explicitly out there seeking out and building alternatives. Could GAF soak some of that back up if they did absolutely everything right starting right now? Probably. Some, at least. But a big chunk is already gone, and I suspect it permanently bleeds more users every hour it stays down in shame, as more and more users seek out alternatives or simply give up and move on with their lives.

[EightBitNate]

I kinda hope evilore deletes the entirety of the site in an attempt to destroy evidence just so all my old embarrassing posts from 2009-10 can be purged from memory.

I also have some embarrassing stuff I’d like buried 

[JesusDaBeast]

I checked this place out because someone recommended it as Gaf was going down in flames. It seemed alright enough, so I registered and here I am.

Gaf was getting ridiculous anyway and there were many times I considered account suiciding, so with it all going to shit, it feels like I've been relieved of a burden. I'm not too mad at the way things ended up.

The funniest memory I have is when gaffers dogpiled me for suggesting that Trump was not sexist for calling a woman "fit and beautiful." There were a few similar instances that happened to me and I remember some dude with a black cat avatar was always at the center of the dogpile. Fucking hated that guy.

Haha.  GAF dog piled me for saying that Obama calling that female governor "beautiful" was technically a sexist move.

Yea that seems about right. If their hero calls someone beautiful, it is not sexist, but if the other guys do it, it is sexist.

[KarpalaJoe]

anyone who complains about "Social Studies Warriors" or the "ctrl-left" (possibly even stupider than the concept of "alt-left") while admitting they are a Trump supporter automatically places your opinion in a dumpster fire.

Your opinion.  There were massive amounts of posters that hate Social Studies Warrior bullshit and just wanted to talk about games.  When the Social Studies Warrior garbage spilled into Gaming over Gamergate it was the beginning of the end for GAF.  It's also when the modding developed an ideological bent that placed political WrongThink over what was actually important on GAF - gaming

I mean, it's pretty much fact. Trump is a piece of shit on many, many different levels. Your inability to see that isn't my problem, nor do I understand why you think The Bore is a safe space for this

I think the Bore isn't GAF, and different political opinions are welcome here.  Your "HALP MODS" won't work here.

Not even calling for moderation here. Just saying that you're going to be shit on continuously every time you post about supporting Trump. If that's your fetish, well, have fun

And that's fine.  Free speech is what it is, I'm happy to engage in debate.  On GAF that wasn't allowed WrongThink was banned, which resulted in a massive portion of users banned, moving to Kotaku in Action and other discussion sites.

The emphasis on politics RUINED the site simply because ideologically left bent mods purged all discussion that didn't fit their feels.

tbh I don't even know what people have to do to get banned here

And some wonder why everyone hate gaf members. Stop ban baiting.

[daemon]

Btw, I think that the exacerbation around everything Trump does is not sane either. We've reached the point where Trump could stop world famine and people would still feel he has darker ulterior motives. Don't deny it, you know it to be true.

[ZephyrFate]

NeoGAF should stay dead and buried. They were not nor ever close to a site like SomethingAwful, which could weather shitty pedo moderators and deal with them the way they should be dealt with. I think if something like this happened to Lowtax, he'd probably handle it in a far, far more professional method than Tyler Malka.

[SRTtoZ]

More importantly where is Derrick01?

[Bamelin]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

That’s kinda what I mean.  I don’t understand how anyone can feel passionately about either of them.  The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.   

you are one dumb motherfucker then

This is what I mean.  On The Bore we can debate this.  On GAF the Trump supporter would be swiftly banned just because "obviously" supporting Trump is "racist, misogynistic, anti LGTB, etc".   There was zero room for debate on GAF and militant leftist politics spilled into every aspect of the site including gaming.  Shit was ridiculous.

[samfish]

So... what’s the story now? Are any of these many new juniors venturing out beyond this thread? Is gaming side more active?

I don’t play games anymore really, so I never go there. All I know is the porn thread hasn’t picked up much.

[ZephyrFate]

anyone who complains about "Social Studies Warriors" or the "ctrl-left" (possibly even stupider than the concept of "alt-left") while admitting they are a Trump supporter automatically places your opinion in a dumpster fire.

Your opinion.  There were massive amounts of posters that hate Social Studies Warrior bullshit and just wanted to talk about games.  When the Social Studies Warrior garbage spilled into Gaming over Gamergate it was the beginning of the end for GAF.  It's also when the modding developed an ideological bent that placed political WrongThink over what was actually important on GAF - gaming

I mean, it's pretty much fact. Trump is a piece of shit on many, many different levels. Your inability to see that isn't my problem, nor do I understand why you think The Bore is a safe space for this

I think the Bore isn't GAF, and different political opinions are welcome here.  Your "HALP MODS" won't work here.

Not even calling for moderation here. Just saying that you're going to be shit on continuously every time you post about supporting Trump. If that's your fetish, well, have fun

And that's fine.  Free speech is what it is, I'm happy to engage in debate.  On GAF that wasn't allowed WrongThink was banned, which resulted in a massive portion of users banned, moving to Kotaku in Action and other discussion sites.

The emphasis on politics RUINED the site simply because ideologically left bent mods purged all discussion that didn't fit their feels.

tbh I don't even know what people have to do to get banned here

And some wonder why everyone hate gaf members. Stop ban baiting.

I've been here for 6 years, dumbass. Oh, you just joined here today? Sit down dude. I haven't been a NeoGAF member for many, many years.

[Boredfrom]

anyone who complains about "Social Studies Warriors" or the "ctrl-left" (possibly even stupider than the concept of "alt-left") while admitting they are a Trump supporter automatically places your opinion in a dumpster fire.

Your opinion.  There were massive amounts of posters that hate Social Studies Warrior bullshit and just wanted to talk about games.  When the Social Studies Warrior garbage spilled into Gaming over Gamergate it was the beginning of the end for GAF.  It's also when the modding developed an ideological bent that placed political WrongThink over what was actually important on GAF - gaming

I mean, it's pretty much fact. Trump is a piece of shit on many, many different levels. Your inability to see that isn't my problem, nor do I understand why you think The Bore is a safe space for this

I think the Bore isn't GAF, and different political opinions are welcome here.  Your "HALP MODS" won't work here.

Not even calling for moderation here. Just saying that you're going to be shit on continuously every time you post about supporting Trump. If that's your fetish, well, have fun

And that's fine.  Free speech is what it is, I'm happy to engage in debate.  On GAF that wasn't allowed WrongThink was banned, which resulted in a massive portion of users banned, moving to Kotaku in Action and other discussion sites.

The emphasis on politics RUINED the site simply because ideologically left bent mods purged all discussion that didn't fit their feels.

But that is the same reason why KiA didn't accomplish shit, because it was a nest of perceived alt right supporters. Also, are you aware that Trump is not exactly Pro Free Speech?

[Opiate]

I don't get how there's a market of people hungry for GAF moderation. "GAF mod" on a resume is incriminating if anything. I don't get why GAF mods are hungry to moderate more forums. Where they getting the time to work without pay? None of it makes any sense.

Right.  Beseda, Kagari, et all couldn't even wait 24 hours without shoving themselves to the front of the food line in the discord refugee camp to vouch for modship again.  It's weird

Not to belabor the obvious, but Occam's razor suggests that their ego was significantly attached to their status as internet forum moderator. This isn't even weird: people's egos are often tied up in very silly things if they happen to attain status or prestige in them. Somewhere out there is some guy who is particularly proud that he has the world's largest Miller Light beer can collection.

[Let's Cyber]

I also have some embarrassing stuff I’d like buried

We know that.

We ALL know about your "embarrassing stuff".

[Jansen]

bans? that-s nice compared to getting lepered

[Transhuman]

I also have some embarrassing stuff I’d like buried

I don't know your name, age, race, your job, or even where you're from. Literally the only thing I know about you is that you accidentally watched porn within hearing distance of your sister.

[injurai]

I will say that even the most optimistic recovery for NeoGAF at this point is relatively disastrous: even if the site is back up tomorrow, EvilLore apologizes, a new moderation staff is brought in within weeks, significant damage will have already been done. The site has been down for 24+ hours. People are openly, explicitly out there seeking out and building alternatives. Could GAF soak some of that back up if they did absolutely everything right starting right now? Probably. Some, at least. But a big chunk is already gone, and I suspect it permanently bleeds more users every hour it stays down in shame, as more and more users seek out alternatives or simply give up and move on with their lives.

He should rebrand the cite as a gaf alternative and assuage people to come back. A few changes to the CSS and a clean DB and it will be the most functional alt out there. Or maybe Gromph will do something like that under a totally new domain name.

[Atramental]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

That’s kinda what I mean.  I don’t understand how anyone can feel passionately about either of them.  The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.

Also, that's a false dichotomy.

You can call them both equally shit (for vastly different reasons) and move on with your life like I did.

[Himu]

I kinda hope evilore deletes the entirety of the site in an attempt to destroy evidence just so all my old embarrassing posts from 2009-10 can be purged from memory.

I know what you mean.  I was an elite W of Social Studies Warrior's.  I feel bad for making that culture acceptable

Same. I wish I could undo but I can't. But we have to live with the fact that we helped contribute to gaf's direction.

[seagrams hotsauce]

How fucking dumb are these juniors lecturing Zephyr about how shit rolls around here? "STOP BAN BAITING YOUR POWERS ARE USELESS HERE MUAHAHAHA" with a grand total of 12 hours on their account. Dumb as fuck. Do you distinguished mentally-challenged fellows not see the "senior member" tag?

[Nola]

Btw, I think that the exacerbation around everything Trump does is not sane either. We've reached the point where Trump could stop world famine and people would still feel he has darker ulterior motives. Don't deny it, you know it to be true.

You know, just because the left has their irrational caricaturing we all laugh it, doesn't make it any less dumb when people on the right do it.