Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[Himu]

Blue tsunami I've misse you breh.

We gettin the OGs together now.

[Swollen Bowels]

Moderation in this age of Trump, whose presidency has given rise to open and unapologetic affinity for fascism, is no different than collaboration. You cannot be a moderate in an environment where people go on social media, with their identities exposed, and gladly express vile and hateful views that were once relegated to the fringes of public opinion (yes, they've always existed in the shadows, but their open expression would always be met with swift and penalizing rebuke). Many moderate Germans believed their Jewish friends would face little persecution under Hitler's regime. Funny how that turned out.

LOL!!!! This is great! People are extreme assholes so I will be an extreme asshole! Essentially the political equivalent of "he started it!!!" which to be fair is a common argument on both sides.

Sometimes, extremism rightfully begets an extreme response. You guys sure do love this ploy of drawing equivalencies between fascists and their critics.

[nudemacusers]

Is headwalk duckroll? Because if you are you can get fucked you son of bitch.

No, he posts under Jack Remington now.

A little bit of duckroll is inside each of us.

 

Would have said amirox but well, you know.

[etiolate]

Resetera folks are basically the village family from Archangel

[Pills Here]

I'll move to Resetera when Loudninja is confirmed to be running the NPD and Media Create threads.

Didn't realise those numbers were available to copy/paste from PSBlog.

[Jansen]

I'll move to Resetera when Loudninja is confirmed to be running the NPD and Media Create threads.

Sorry but that can't happen under the Nintendo Regime since loudninja is a Sony superfan

[Tokyosandblaster]

Is headwalk duckroll? Because if you are you can get fucked you son of bitch.

No, he posts under Jack Remington now.

He's always switching accounts to stay one step ahead of The Bore's ruthless mods and admins.

I was just offering duckroll some butt sex. The fuck is wrong with you people.

[Himu]

I'm taking a good long look at the politics of the folks who are saltiest over their gaf bans 

Also, duckroll has never posted here.

Wrong. Duckroll has or had an account and quit when he became a mod.

[Mercy]

Yes echo chambers are wrong you dumb biatch

Having my insular worldview challenged by others is a microaggression. 

[Nintex]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattEnth/status/922365351626661888

CEO of Opencritic
The Three Stooges : forum admin adventures

Grand Admiral Karl Donitz will continue the Reich as normal. 

Don't worry citizens, the Russians bombs won't hit us where we are setting up shop.

[stufte]

Moderation in this age of Trump, whose presidency has given rise to open and unapologetic affinity for fascism, is no different than collaboration. You cannot be a moderate in an environment where people go on social media, with their identities exposed, and gladly express vile and hateful views that were once relegated to the fringes of public opinion (yes, they've always existed in the shadows, but their open expression would always be met with swift and penalizing rebuke). Many moderate Germans believed their Jewish friends would face little persecution under Hitler's regime. Funny how that turned out.

LOL!!!! This is great! People are extreme assholes so I will be an extreme asshole! Essentially the political equivalent of "he started it!!!" which to be fair is a common argument on both sides.

Sometimes, extremism rightfully begets an extreme response. You guys sure do love this ploy of drawing equivalencies between fascists and their critics.

What do you mean "You guys"?

[Chim Richalds]

Moderation in this age of Trump, whose presidency has given rise to open and unapologetic affinity for fascism, is no different than collaboration. You cannot be a moderate in an environment where people go on social media, with their identities exposed, and gladly express vile and hateful views that were once relegated to the fringes of public opinion (yes, they've always existed in the shadows, but their open expression would always be met with swift and penalizing rebuke). Many moderate Germans believed their Jewish friends would face little persecution under Hitler's regime. Funny how that turned out.

LOL!!!! This is great! People are extreme assholes so I will be an extreme asshole! Essentially the political equivalent of "he started it!!!" which to be fair is a common argument on both sides.

Sometimes, extremism rightfully begets an extreme response. You guys sure do love this ploy of drawing equivalencies between fascists and their critics.

Look, just get fucked.

[VomKriege]

Who are you, Enzom?  Fuck off with the "where's the receipts" bullshit.

The receipts for GAF were always in our hearts and memories.

[border]

It's not like twitter exists or anything.

Twitter is a cacophony of garbage.  Yes, if I want to read someone react to Walking Dead in 140 characters or less it's awesome.....but if you want to read considered, sincere, or thoughtful opinions then you might as well give up.

NeoGAF was kinda like the IMDB boards, where there was definitely a ton of garbage but you could find somebody to talk about whatever you want to talk about.  I'm sure there are plenty of Walking Dead fan sites I could go to, but the point of NeoGAF is that all those discussions were collectively there in one place, with one login, with one subscription/notification system.  One minute you could be reading about the new Boards of Canada album and the next you'd be talking about why last night's episode of The Simpsons was terrible.

[K]

Seen quite a few ex mods crawl back already. I won't blame them though. Except d'ohpiate

[kingv]

Emily Rogers is going to be admin, along with SweetNicole/Patticakes who is a trans bi woman with a lesbian partner.

That Polygon article did work

Why are there so many trans video game “personalities”?

What is the intersectionality between being picky about pronouns and seeking out the sickest switch rumors or to make indie games?

Always wanted to ask on GAF but knew I’d catch a ban.

[Nabbis]

Angelus posts sarcastic racist posts all the time; thought you guys were picking up on that and not accusing him of being racist against white people.

My bad?

I'm not sensitive towards minorities who post racist shit about white people so I didn't really think from that angle.

Look man. When it comes down to it, others will get the banana while he will get the pity points if you engage posters like him on Gaf with the same arguments. He knew it while doing it anyway and that certainly says a lot about his moral character.

[Deavl]

Angelus posts sarcastic racist posts all the time; thought you guys were picking up on that and not accusing him of being racist against white people.

My bad?

I'm not sensitive towards minorities who post racist shit about white people so I didn't really think from that angle.

"Sensitive"
It was hard not to notice the chip some had on their shoulder, and Bish didn't make it any better.

[VomKriege]

Moderation in this age of Trump, whose presidency has given rise to open and unapologetic affinity for fascism, is no different than collaboration. You cannot be a moderate in an environment where people go on social media, with their identities exposed, and gladly express vile and hateful views that were once relegated to the fringes of public opinion (yes, they've always existed in the shadows, but their open expression would always be met with swift and penalizing rebuke). Many moderate Germans believed their Jewish friends would face little persecution under Hitler's regime. Funny how that turned out.

LOL!!!! This is great! People are extreme assholes so I will be an extreme asshole! Essentially the political equivalent of "he started it!!!" which to be fair is a common argument on both sides.

Sometimes, extremism rightfully begets an extreme response. You guys sure do love this ploy of drawing equivalencies between fascists and their critics.

You're right. Equating fascists with such a truly heinous bunch of critics is terrible. 

[etiolate]

Angelus posts sarcastic racist posts all the time; thought you guys were picking up on that and not accusing him of being racist against white people.

My bad?

I'm not sensitive towards minorities who post racist shit about white people so I didn't really think from that angle.

Am I reading this right? You just ignore racist minorities?

[border]

Why are there so many trans video game “personalities”?

What is the intersectionality between being picky about pronouns and seeking out the sickest switch rumors or to make indie games?

I don't think there are that many trans personalities in gaming.  You just notice the ones that are there because they kinda stick out.

[Dougstyles]

Sometimes, extremism rightfully begets an extreme response. You guys sure do love this ploy of drawing equivalencies between fascists and their critics.

Your definition of extremism is fucked beyond comprehension.

[Himu]

How bout them apples Jiji.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=26051.msg680332#msg680332

Ps how you been bro

[joe_zazen]

.

[Deavl]

Emily Rogers is going to be admin, along with SweetNicole/Patticakes who is a trans bi woman with a lesbian partner.

That Polygon article did work

Why are there so many trans video game “personalities”?

What is the intersectionality between being picky about pronouns and seeking out the sickest switch rumors or to make indie games?

Always wanted to ask on GAF but knew I’d catch a ban.

Might as well have asked why GAF pretended like no women ever designed games before they bravely strut on to the scene.

[NickFire]

I hope the proud #gamer isn't too proud about it in resetera.

In the last years since GG, there was a narrative in Neogaf, that being a #gamer is the equivalent of the white male rapist racist. There was always several posters in neogaf threads that decried gamers and were ashamed to be gamers when someone was harassed or an individual who played games did something bad.

I think it was that GG - and other gaming-oriented controversies since then - showed that this hobby we might have once thought would unite and remove us from the ugliness of life was just as tainted as what we were trying to escape. It proved that many of the people behind the games we enjoy harbor some very dark beliefs that made it very difficult to separate from our enjoyment of this pastime. It's too bad that the vast majority of the people expressing those ugly views are white males. Maybe that's a problem that should be addressed?

Trump becomes president = better double down with the evil white boogeyman rhetoric.  Rabid communist website eats its own = better double down with the evil white boogeyman rhetoric.  Whoever you are, please stop smelling your farts all day, and step back into reality.  If you do, you may just find a game you enjoy playing more than passing out victim cards.

Trump didn't win the white male and female vote? And GAF is rabidly communist? 

Which one is it - former mod / admin, or one of those privileged few whose voices really needed to be heard?  Whichever it is, congratulations to you for burning your echo chamber to the ground after working so hard to stamp out the wrong think.     

[Swollen Bowels]

I hope the proud #gamer isn't too proud about it in resetera.

In the last years since GG, there was a narrative in Neogaf, that being a #gamer is the equivalent of the white male rapist racist. There was always several posters in neogaf threads that decried gamers and were ashamed to be gamers when someone was harassed or an individual who played games did something bad.

I think it was that GG - and other gaming-oriented controversies since then - showed that this hobby we might have once thought would unite and remove us from the ugliness of life was just as tainted as what we were trying to escape. It proved that many of the people behind the games we enjoy harbor some very dark beliefs that made it very difficult to separate from our enjoyment of this pastime. It's too bad that the vast majority of the people expressing those ugly views are white males. Maybe that's a problem that should be addressed?

HAH! This right here is why GAF was shit. You're joking though, right?

No, I'm very serious and speak from experience, remembering conversations I had with many minority members of the gaming community who were absolutely stunned that the ranks of their hobby included the dregs of society. We always knew that there were racists among us, as any time playing [insert your favorite multiplayer title of the last decade] could demonstrate. But, there was a feeling that the creators were above that, men who were educated enough to reject such prejudices.

First off: multiplayer "banter" has always been shit. this should come as no surprise. Mute that shit like every other normal person.

Second: Games are made by a swath of talented people who have all sorts of beliefs and ideologies. The fact that you thought that creators were some sort of enlightened class and not just regular men and women makes you and others complete morons. You have a very shallow view of the real world.

Growing up in a very politically aware household that bordered on militant, I've always been aware of what lies beneath the surface. I was led by no such delusion that some of my other more credulous friends suffered under. GAF became a battleground against the rising fascism among the youth. I have absolutely no problem with how they dealt with opinions that fell out of favor with their "echo chamber."

[stufte]

I guess this is a good time to point out that MOST people in the industry hated GAF. Not because it was a "progressive" board, but because they generally HATE games, and hate the people who make them.

[Polyh3dron]

Slaent seems to have absorbed some of the worst from GAF

but Dennis and JayDubya are here though

[tummyfat]

Why are there so many trans video game “personalities”?

What is the intersectionality between being picky about pronouns and seeking out the sickest switch rumors or to make indie games?

I don't think there are that many trans personalities in gaming.  You just notice the ones that are there because they kinda stick out.

There are definitely overepresented compared with less than 1% or whatever of the general population that is trans.

The reasons are probably pretty obvious - gaming is a solitary activity that lets you escape into a world where you can be whoever you want to be.

[benjipwns]

Sometimes, extremism rightfully begets an extreme response. You guys sure do love this ploy of drawing equivalencies between fascists and their critics.

Your definition of extremism is fucked beyond comprehension.

Look if we don't engage in politically motivated vigilante violence against those who espouse views legally that we don't like then the fascists win.

[benjipwns]

I was led by no such delusion that some of my other more credulous friends suffered under. GAF became a battleground against the rising fascism among the youth.

Uh huh.

[VomKriege]

Growing up in a very politically aware household that bordered on militant, I've always been aware of what lies beneath the surface. I was led by no such delusion that some of my other more credulous friends suffered under. GAF became a battleground against the rising fascism among the youth. I have absolutely no problem with how they dealt with opinions that fell out of favor with their "echo chamber."

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We don't even have to search for material, it's coming directly at us 

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[nudemacusers]

please be more concise and topical with your shitposting browsing this site sucks enough on mobile without you nerds babbling for paragraphs about forum injustices and racism

[stufte]

I hope the proud #gamer isn't too proud about it in resetera.

In the last years since GG, there was a narrative in Neogaf, that being a #gamer is the equivalent of the white male rapist racist. There was always several posters in neogaf threads that decried gamers and were ashamed to be gamers when someone was harassed or an individual who played games did something bad.

I think it was that GG - and other gaming-oriented controversies since then - showed that this hobby we might have once thought would unite and remove us from the ugliness of life was just as tainted as what we were trying to escape. It proved that many of the people behind the games we enjoy harbor some very dark beliefs that made it very difficult to separate from our enjoyment of this pastime. It's too bad that the vast majority of the people expressing those ugly views are white males. Maybe that's a problem that should be addressed?

HAH! This right here is why GAF was shit. You're joking though, right?

No, I'm very serious and speak from experience, remembering conversations I had with many minority members of the gaming community who were absolutely stunned that the ranks of their hobby included the dregs of society. We always knew that there were racists among us, as any time playing [insert your favorite multiplayer title of the last decade] could demonstrate. But, there was a feeling that the creators were above that, men who were educated enough to reject such prejudices.

First off: multiplayer "banter" has always been shit. this should come as no surprise. Mute that shit like every other normal person.

Second: Games are made by a swath of talented people who have all sorts of beliefs and ideologies. The fact that you thought that creators were some sort of enlightened class and not just regular men and women makes you and others complete morons. You have a very shallow view of the real world.

Growing up in a very politically aware household that bordered on militant, I've always been aware of what lies beneath the surface. I was led by no such delusion that some of my other more credulous friends suffered under. GAF became a battleground against the rising fascism among the youth. I have absolutely no problem with how they dealt with opinions that fell out of favor with their "echo chamber."

Well maybe now that GAF is gone, you'll grow up a bit. Good luck to ya.

[injurai]

I guess this is a good time to point out that MOST people in the industry hated GAF. Not because it was a "progressive" board, but because they generally HATE games, and hate the people who make them.

Gaf: "You're a graphics programmer with mountains of debt working shit hours in a highly competitive industry? Why aren't you risking your career and livelihood and family to call out your bigot employee that we are clearly already taking care of from the outside!?!?!? It's you're fucking privilege that you can sit by and collect a check."

Dev: "But I'm half Greek half Hispanic..."

Gaf: *Onto the next victim*

[kingv]

Emily Rogers is going to be admin, along with SweetNicole/Patticakes who is a trans bi woman with a lesbian partner.

That Polygon article did work

Why are there so many trans video game “personalities”?

What is the intersectionality between being picky about pronouns and seeking out the sickest switch rumors or to make indie games?

Always wanted to ask on GAF but knew I’d catch a ban.

Why does it matter?

We are discussing defunct gaming website, forum.gaming-age.com. None of this matters

[etiolate]

GAF had some vocal antifa supporters

Apparently IrishNinja is in AntiFa, so he likely bailed when I posted Tim Pool.

[Dennis]

[injurai]

Incidentally, Antifa IS a bunch of violent crazies.

White supremanationawhatevers do have a right to free speech, Antifa has a right to free speech, both also have a right to freedom of assembly, and when any individuals from either gang of distinguished mentally-challenged fellows get violent they should be thrown in jail / prison for a commensurate amount of time for the violence they initiate.

Kthx.

Antifa thinks that they are virtuous because they are early to the resistance, when all they do is break the windows of coffee shops and pick fights amongst public chaos. Normal people hold the world together and act when they can actually contribute something of lasting value to resist fascist extremism. It's pathetic that they cannot see that.

[border]

So...it's NeoGAF?

I certainly don't think there's an academic-level of discussion at NeoGAF, but there's at least discussion.  Twitter is just raw reactions, and massively truncated ones at that.  One is really not a substitute for the other.

Like, what did I get from someone who posts "OMG Carol no don't do that! #WalkingDead"?  It's a platform for people's witty one-liners and snarky liveblogs.

[Sirge]

I hope the proud #gamer isn't too proud about it in resetera.

In the last years since GG, there was a narrative in Neogaf, that being a #gamer is the equivalent of the white male rapist racist. There was always several posters in neogaf threads that decried gamers and were ashamed to be gamers when someone was harassed or an individual who played games did something bad.

I think it was that GG - and other gaming-oriented controversies since then - showed that this hobby we might have once thought would unite and remove us from the ugliness of life was just as tainted as what we were trying to escape. It proved that many of the people behind the games we enjoy harbor some very dark beliefs that made it very difficult to separate from our enjoyment of this pastime. It's too bad that the vast majority of the people expressing those ugly views are white males. Maybe that's a problem that should be addressed?

HAH! This right here is why GAF was shit. You're joking though, right?

No, I'm very serious and speak from experience, remembering conversations I had with many minority members of the gaming community who were absolutely stunned that the ranks of their hobby included the dregs of society. We always knew that there were racists among us, as any time playing [insert your favorite multiplayer title of the last decade] could demonstrate. But, there was a feeling that the creators were above that, men who were educated enough to reject such prejudices.

First off: multiplayer "banter" has always been shit. this should come as no surprise. Mute that shit like every other normal person.

Second: Games are made by a swath of talented people who have all sorts of beliefs and ideologies. The fact that you thought that creators were some sort of enlightened class and not just regular men and women makes you and others complete morons. You have a very shallow view of the real world.

Growing up in a very politically aware household that bordered on militant, I've always been aware of what lies beneath the surface. I was led by no such delusion that some of my other more credulous friends suffered under. GAF became a battleground against the rising fascism among the youth. I have absolutely no problem with how they dealt with opinions that fell out of favor with their "echo chamber."

The bolded is an interesting way to say 'I was brainwashed from birth', but at least you said it.

[VomKriege]

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GAF going going through all of the states of server down.
Surprised he didn't cram an ad there also.

[Bravotyler]

The real way to fight fascism in the youth is to purchase Wolfenstein® II: The New Colossus™ | Available 10.27.17 and prove just how strong the Resistance™ really is.

[EightBitNate]

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This has gone from a Reddit->Voat migration to a Digg->Reddit one.

[kingv]

Incidentally, Antifa IS a bunch of violent crazies.

White supremanationawhatevers do have a right to free speech, Antifa has a right to free speech, both also have a right to freedom of assembly, and when any individuals from either gang of distinguished mentally-challenged fellows get violent they should be thrown in jail / prison for a commensurate amount of time for the violence they initiate.

Kthx.

?
Antifa thinks that they are virtuous because they are early to the resistance, when all they do is break the windows of coffee shops and pick fights amongst public chaos. Normal people hold the world together and act when they can actually contribute something of lasting value to resist fascist extremism. It's pathetic that they cannot see that.

Can we just rename them Antifa the Jets and the White supremacist the sharks

[Himu]

GAF had some vocal antifa supporters

Apparently IrishNinja is in AntiFa, so he likely bailed when I posted Tim Pool.

Irish bailed when he posted the milk.shake duck thread and I told him that this wasn't gaf and everyone here thinks milk.shake duck is a wack phrase and thankfully we have added it to word filter. He sent me a pm bout it.

MILKSHAKE DUCK
MILKSHAKE DUCK
MILKSHAKE DUCK

[Sai]

Sometimes, extremism rightfully begets an extreme response. You guys sure do love this ploy of drawing equivalencies between fascists and their critics.

Your definition of extremism is fucked beyond comprehension.

Look if we don't engage in politically motivated vigilante violence against those who espouse views legally that we don't like then the fascists win.

q f t

[Bitmap Frogs]

That resetera deal sounds awful.

[studyguy]

Have you guys considered just not being white? 
 

[tummyfat]

It's funny that the m1lkshake duck is what killed GAF

[KarpalaJoe]

I guess this is a good time to point out that MOST people in the industry hated GAF. Not because it was a "progressive" board, but because they generally HATE games, and hate the people who make them.

The industry hated gaf - prior 2014 - because there were some good lad that could be very critical toward games. After 2014, it was all about Nintendards and shill everywhere, not just Sony shills, just shilling and astrosurfing.

When a dickhead hobbit like Bezinsky - or whatever the spelling - say that he hates gaf, it's mostly because gaf hate his games and he thought that Lawbreakers failed because of Neogaf, while it's just a shitty game in an over-crowded market.

Gaf was a shit place, but at least you could get some nice and critical discussions about games when the honey moon about said games was over. That was the only redeeming quality of the board.

The industry hates boards and social media reactions, not just gaf. All they want is marketing PR going straight to the consumers, they hate when commentators interfers in their business.

[Atramental]

It's funny that the m1lkshake duck is what killed GAF

''Twas the milkshake that broke the duck's back. 

[Transhuman]

First, is there something inherently wrong with an "echo chamber"? Is there a problem fostering a community where rank bigotry was deem unacceptable and forbidden? Also, can you give me some examples of valid opinions that GAF refused the expression of? Or, what opinions on GAF were deemed above reproach and undeserving of challenge?

That antifa shouldn't go around beating the shit out of people, for starters. Gaf did not like neutrality, either you want to beat the shit out of nazis, or you are one. I felt like if I ever posted in a thread and extolled passive resistance over violence in any of the threads over the last few months, I would be banned. You used to be able to have an argument with someone and not have have to worry about it. So why speak your mind when the odds of being banned are so high.

[gfm793]

Is Shinobi602 the guy who cant watch porn or his wife will leave him? I swear I read a post from him about that.

Hey man, we've all got our kinks.

[Pills Here]

I don't blame the Antifa supporters tbh, that country (United States) is such a joke that I'm surprised there isn't a total violent uprising.

No shade.

[etiolate]

Am I reading this right? You just ignore racist minorities?

Yes?  I've never experienced any sort of real life racism, particularly not institutional racism or workplace racism.. so it's not really a hot topic for me.   I don't think it's constructive in any way to act that way, and I've told Angelus as much on NeoGAF, but I perceive it more as a symptom of their anger towards racism that actually affects them. 

Oh no, some guy on a message board talked shit about "white people".. whatever will I do... *sips champagne*

Racism is racism. Sexism is sexism. You don't get to justify it via other racism. That's what the alt-right does after all.

It's not just dirty words on a facebook post. The application of the idea of White Privilege itself is tautological, institutional racism. There is a large discussion about various advantages and disadvantages we all have, but that is a complex prism that changes individual to individual. White Privilege is not that detailed conversation. It's just racism that gets taught to naive youth like Angelus and yourself.

[Mr. Nobody]

hi pals

 

[toku]

I don't blame the Antifa supporters tbh, that country (United States) is such a joke that I'm surprised there isn't a total violent uprising.

No shade.

there's time enough yet

[Para-Medic]

GAF had some vocal antifa supporters

Apparently IrishNinja is in AntiFa, so he likely bailed when I posted Tim Pool.

Irish bailed when he posted the milk.shake duck thread and I told him that this wasn't gaf and everyone here thinks milk.shake duck is a wack phrase and thankfully we have added it to word filter. He sent me a pm bout it.

cheeseburger shark
cheeseburger shark
cheeseburger shark

Praise the heavens. Such a stupid meme but they all ran with it like crazy.