Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[Assimilate]

Without reading what Bryan Cranston actually said in regards to Trump, the base level headline is accurate. Wanting the US president to actively fail and suck at everything he does is bad for every person in the country, and impacts just about everyone in the world as well. You know Putin won when he has half of America hoping the American president has a disastrous reign not realizing (or caring) it will ruin the country for decades to come in the process.

Right, but the problem with that sort of low-iq, hyperbolic nonsense from Cranston(who I think means well here) is that Trump succeeding, for instance, means he kills the individual insurance market to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. Rolls back financial protections to pre-2008.  Guts the social safety net to give more tax cuts to rich people. Advances an agenda of mass immigrant ethnic cleansing. Succeeds in his poorly veiled attempt at advancing voter suppression measures to combat fake election fraud. Turns our democratic institutions into ineffective crony operations built to benefit large, established industries, ones that are posed to do irreparable harm to our planet due to a lack of concern for a growing environmental crisis he has turned his back on. Turns the Republican party into an increasingly fascist, white nationalist movement that erodes our democratic values. Oh, and for Trump, a win would be usurping the rule of law to get out from under an escalating investigation into his possible collusion with a hostile foreign power and winning re-election.

I don't want that to succeed. If that makes me a vile human being so be it.

I totally agree with you but if you really think Cranston was thinking those things when he made that comment.... the issue is that these ResetGaffers WANT to be outraged. They immediately go for clickbait headlines and then dogpile to feel good about themselves.

No one should be giving a fuck what an actor says about politics because they're usually dumb as shit but since most of these ResetGaffers follow news like they're watching TMZ this is what happens.

[altright]

I can't be the only one to find Morrigan's username rather ironic when compared to the first 'person' I think of called Morrigan, right?

She was using Morrigan from Darkstalkers in her avatar for awhile on neogaf. Probably has some tortured justification for using her name.

I see she is already behaving like a shithead while being a mod. Terrible pick for a mod. Too hyperaggressive.

[etiolate]

Apparently MSNBC edited the Anita tweets in their alt-right piece to add in the Gamergate hashtag when they weren't on the originals.

The Tweets:

https://archive.fo/cwzMe/290f085473d0f815d1af883fc09a497e55ba3e1c.jpg

Their vid:
https://youtu.be/uN1P6UA7pvM?t=45s

[Bulleta©™®]

I can't be the only one to find Morrigan's username rather ironic when compared to the first 'person' I think of called Morrigan, right?

She was using Morrigan from Darkstalkers in her avatar for awhile on neogaf. Probably has some tortured justification for using her name.

I see she is already behaving like a shithead while being a mod. Terrible pick for a mod. Too hyperaggressive.

So you see it too.

[Bore Expert]

Somewhere in Texas right now, the Shower Goblin is looking at what’s left of his once thriving empire and trying to pinpoint where it all went wrong. In desperation, he dials Bish’s number. There is no answer. He texts Beseda. There is no reply. He pours another glass of Zima and nukes a couple accounts for old times sake... reminiscing about what once was. Suddenly, his phone rings. He immediately recognizes the voice at the other end. Because that voice belongs to none other than Bobbby. Plans are discussed. Movies are critiqued. Love blossoms.

[Nola]

Without reading what Bryan Cranston actually said in regards to Trump, the base level headline is accurate. Wanting the US president to actively fail and suck at everything he does is bad for every person in the country, and impacts just about everyone in the world as well. You know Putin won when he has half of America hoping the American president has a disastrous reign not realizing (or caring) it will ruin the country for decades to come in the process.

Right, but the problem with that sort of low-iq, hyperbolic nonsense from Cranston(who I think means well here) is that Trump succeeding, for instance, means he kills the individual insurance market to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. Rolls back financial protections to pre-2008.  Guts the social safety net to give more tax cuts to rich people. Advances an agenda of mass immigrant ethnic cleansing. Succeeds in his poorly veiled attempt at advancing voter suppression measures to combat fake election fraud. Turns our democratic institutions into ineffective crony operations built to benefit large, established industries, ones that are posed to do irreparable harm to our planet due to a lack of concern for a growing environmental crisis he has turned his back on. Turns the Republican party into an increasingly fascist, white nationalist movement that erodes our democratic values. Oh, and for Trump, a win would be usurping the rule of law to get out from under an escalating investigation into his possible collusion with a hostile foreign power and winning re-election.

I don't want that to succeed. If that makes me a vile human being so be it.

I totally agree with you but if you really think Cranston was thinking those things when he made that comment.... the issue is that these ResetGaffers WANT to be outraged. They immediately go for clickbait headlines and then dogpile to feel good about themselves.

No one should be giving a fuck what an actor says about politics because they're usually dumb as shit but since most of these ResetGaffers follow news like they're watching TMZ this is what happens.

I hear you. That was my initial point as well. I don't think he actually thinks this thing through that deeply and means well with what he is saying. I just figured if I'm in it, I'm in it.

But you are right about getting up in arms over an actor. The only reason I  ever come across actors's political musings is if someone in my safe space tricks me into reading it 

[Momo]

I can't be the only one to find Morrigan's username rather ironic when compared to the first 'person' I think of called Morrigan, right?

Morrigan is one of my mains so yeah I always make a    face

[Assimilate]

Relevant for the times. Kilstein is such a stupid fuck and he got what he deserved but man the irony of it all.

[etiolate]

I struggled to listen to that one due to all of his upspeak and vocal fry.

He did dig his own grave.

[Jenkem]

well no, because *brings mic closer* every 10 years the cells in your body actually completely change. I was reading this article about how DMT can actually advance this process into only taking 6 years because your pineal gland--Jamie, could you get that article up?--Yeah, but it's because your pineal glands can actually make your cells rejuvenate faster... 

[benjipwns]

Not having read Cranston's comments, just what you guys posted, it's kinda like Rush Limbaugh's wanting Obama to fail back in 2009. I get what he meant, because he thought Obama would do all these terrible things, like Nola exampled for Trump, so he's really saying Obama has to fail for America to win, same with Trump. Most people who argue against that aren't really separating the specific policies or politics from the institution of the Presidency. I mean, I don't want Trump to fail too significantly in certain select ways that are tied more to the institution, but overall I want him to fail in a lot of the same ways policy wise that I wanted Obama to fail.

[benjipwns]

While I was making a post in the politics thread I started to wonder how I could get my magnificent TRUMP 2016 thread moved to the new OT but kept locked*. Also the one about something about feminism and goats milk or something I forget.

*Due to the best intentional bump I probably should have got a ban for but quoting everyone actively excited about Trump and begging him to get in was too good of schadenfreude.

[benjipwns]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HErhDN8leTwJ:www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D1021396+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Toward a Feminist Postcolonial Milk Studies

Just came across this deep-hitting article in a back issue of American Quarterly, the journal from the American Studies Association.

Any typos likely from my shoddy copy-pasting.

http://www.academia.edu/4357706/Toward_a_Feminist_Postcolonial_Milk_Studies

Because milk is produced by female mammals, a feminist perspective seems to offer a logical foundation for such inquiry. From the start, feminism has been a movement for justice: at its heart is the centrality of praxis, the necessary linkage of intellectual, political, and activist work. Feminist methodology puts the lives of the oppressed at the center of the research question and undertakes studies, gathers data, and interrogates material contexts with the primary aim of improving the lives and the material conditions of the oppressed. Using standard feminist methodology, twentieth-century vegan feminists and animal ecofeminists challenged animal suffering in its many manifestations (in scientific research, and specifically in the feminized beauty and cleaning products industries; in dairy, egg, and animal food production; in “pet” keeping and breeding, zoos, rodeos, hunting, fur, and clothing) by developing a feminist theoretical perspective on the intersections of species, gender, race, class, sexuality, and nature. Motivated by an intellectual and experiential understanding of the mutually reinforcing interconnections among diverse forms of oppression, vegan feminists and ecofeminists positioned their own liberation and well-being as variously raced, classed, gendered, and sexual humans to be fundamentally interconnected to the well-being of other nondominant human and animal species, augmenting Patricia Hill Collins’s definition of intersectionality to include species as well.

In California and Wisconsin, rows of cows are lined up in stalls, with metal suction cups pumping on their teats, extracting milk; on the May 21, 2012,cover of Time magazine, a twenty-six-year-old mother is pictured, breastfeeding her three-year-old son.

Which image is more shocking? Ideologically imprisoned in a humanist colonial framework, few human mothers who breastfeed their infants use this embodied experience as an avenue for empathizing with other mammal mothers; few human parents who touch and nurture their newborns have used these behaviors’ affectionate oxytocin release as an opportunity to consider the experiences of other animal parents locked in systems of human captivity. Feminist milk studies addresses the bio-psycho-social connections produced through the behavioral and material elements of this first relationship, the mother–infant bond, and their nursing milk

For too long, the dominant culture has childishly projected its own gendered image onto nature as selfless and self-sacrificing mother, as in Shel Silverstein’s book The Giving Tree, or onto other mammal species, requiring the female bovine to symbolize maternal nature: mindless, patient, slow-moving, lactating. If we set aside this stereotype and look into her eyes, what can we see?

When you think about it, it really makes you think.

how do i get this into the archive.is or whatever it is

I applaud the OP for attempting to have a serious discussion around the phenomena of mixing feminism with animal rights. However most people are way too immature for that here. Unable to see any similarities as it is way too offensive for them to bare.

[benjipwns]

A WILD MOBLIN APPEARS:

she's a rather well-known figure here in Minnesota

feminist scholars at more... reputable institutions of higher education talk about her in hushed whispers, though

[benjipwns]

oh cool, the wayback machine archived the whole thread way back in april 2015, one day after my birthday

[benjipwns]

good ol technomancer in there trying to justify and defend it from critics in his mind rather than just laugh at the academic garbage

[benjipwns]

newbs do not adjust your bore, this kind of benji posting was normal in the GAF ERA, some have chosen to find it charming

[ToxicAdam]

Adderall, not even once.

[team filler]

Think I'll go find another etiolate post to like.

[OathToOrder]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-the-tlou2-character-the-most-jacked-female-character-in-aaa-video-games.2569/#post-267895

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-paris-game-week-2017-discussion.1732/page-154#post-297998

[Raist]

Naughty Gods so great they invented muscular female characters

[Purple Filth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-the-tlou2-character-the-most-jacked-female-character-in-aaa-video-games.2569/#post-267895

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-paris-game-week-2017-discussion.1732/page-154#post-297998

 

well the second poster is a fucking idiot so

[H.I.V.E.]

Poor JKR not gonna touch that one lol

Just because she is pro gay doesn't mean she is pro trans. People forget not everyone on the left all agree. I've seen gay people hate on bisexuals for swinging both ways.

[Assimilate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-the-tlou2-character-the-most-jacked-female-character-in-aaa-video-games.2569/#post-267895

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-paris-game-week-2017-discussion.1732/page-154#post-297998

  People getting banned now huh

And of course a few comments down there's a douche signaling his Sony badge "derp gonna cancel my xbx order because look at this great trailer! derp"  All hopes of this not being Gaf2.0 is out the fucking window at this point

[benjipwns]

just watched last of us 2 trailer, going out to torture some women after sexually harassing them, it's what Naughty Gods would want

spoiler (click to show/hide)

hope nobody shoots an arrow through my mouth

[close]

[benjipwns]

wow another Naughty Gods super-fan (and sexual harasser and woman torturer) in the youtube comments:

Donald Trump
6 hours ago
Just one question... where is Ellie and Joel?!

[H.I.V.E.]

Eliminating transphobia one ban at a time. Obviously never gonna be able to have deep conversation about that topic on resetera and I never expected that. But at least they were not perma banned.

Anyone with minor sense will stay clear of that topic.

[OathToOrder]

just watched last of us 2 trailer, going out to torture some women after sexually harassing them, it's what Naughty Gods would want

spoiler (click to show/hide)

hope nobody shoots an arrow through my mouth

[close]

btw, the Naught GODS sexual harassment thing just died on RE, right?

[benjipwns]

they should have called this Some More of Us

[thehunter116]

Eliminating transphobia one ban at a time. Obviously never gonna be able to have deep conversation about that topic on resetera and I never expected that. But at least they were not perma banned.

Anyone with minor sense will stay clear of that topic.

I mean that first post is just fucking stupid.

Women who are muscular aren't all trans.

[H.I.V.E.]

Eliminating transphobia one ban at a time. Obviously never gonna be able to have deep conversation about that topic on resetera and I never expected that. But at least they were not perma banned.

Anyone with minor sense will stay clear of that topic.

I mean that first post is just fucking stupid.

Women who are muscular aren't all trans.

Yeah first post was deserving. I mean more like anyone who even mentions it like that guy or serious debate is dumb and it will never be able to fly over there. Also people who are transphobic will never change in current climate surrounding it. You can't joke about It, ask questions or admit you have issues with it.

[benjipwns]

This played out like a scene from a survival horror game.

In contrast with the first installment, which was centered around love, Druckmann has stated that this game will be centered around hate.

[H.I.V.E.]

This played out like a scene from a survival horror game.

In contrast with the first installment, which was centered around love, Druckmann has stated that this game will be centered around hate.

Hate sounds fun. Don't get enough of that 

[thehunter116]

Eliminating transphobia one ban at a time. Obviously never gonna be able to have deep conversation about that topic on resetera and I never expected that. But at least they were not perma banned.

Anyone with minor sense will stay clear of that topic.

I mean that first post is just fucking stupid.

Women who are muscular aren't all trans.

Yeah first post was deserving. I mean more like anyone who even mentions it like that guy or serious debate is dumb and it will never be able to fly over there. Also people who are transphobic will never change in current climate surrounding it. You can't joke about It, ask questions or admit you have issues with it.

With Trans people I understand them getting "safe spaces". In a few states it's a justified defense to murder someone if you sleep with them and find out they're trans.

Having somewhere that you don't have to deal with yucksters and callous statements is nice. We don't need safe spaces for everyone and thing though.

[H.I.V.E.]

Eliminating transphobia one ban at a time. Obviously never gonna be able to have deep conversation about that topic on resetera and I never expected that. But at least they were not perma banned.

Anyone with minor sense will stay clear of that topic.

I mean that first post is just fucking stupid.

Women who are muscular aren't all trans.

Yeah first post was deserving. I mean more like anyone who even mentions it like that guy or serious debate is dumb and it will never be able to fly over there. Also people who are transphobic will never change in current climate surrounding it. You can't joke about It, ask questions or admit you have issues with it.

With Trans people I understand them getting "safe spaces". In a few states it's a justified defense to murder someone if you sleep with them and find out they're trans.

Having somewhere that you don't have to deal with yucksters and callous statements is nice. We don't need safe spaces for everyone and thing though.

That is bad, a matter for the law of course and isn't right but I also think deceiving someone and not telling them is wrong and not acceptable and the ones that do push that thinking can go to hell and should not act surprised if the person gets mad. Same like the morons who claim they shouldn't have to tell a sex partner they have HIV or aids.

Resetera will for sure be a safe space for them however and I don't have a problem with that. Unless they start making gaf threads about how people who don't want a trans partner or isn't attracted is a problem.

Transphobia isn't the same as hating trans. I mean no phobia is.

[K]

Guys, I think he's lost it. The meltdown must of done a number on him.

He's like one of those crazy vietnam vets with PTSD at this point.

[etiolate]

I guess he stopped at Gaffy Predator

[thehunter116]

Eliminating transphobia one ban at a time. Obviously never gonna be able to have deep conversation about that topic on resetera and I never expected that. But at least they were not perma banned.

Anyone with minor sense will stay clear of that topic.

I mean that first post is just fucking stupid.

Women who are muscular aren't all trans.

Yeah first post was deserving. I mean more like anyone who even mentions it like that guy or serious debate is dumb and it will never be able to fly over there. Also people who are transphobic will never change in current climate surrounding it. You can't joke about It, ask questions or admit you have issues with it.

With Trans people I understand them getting "safe spaces". In a few states it's a justified defense to murder someone if you sleep with them and find out they're trans.

Having somewhere that you don't have to deal with yucksters and callous statements is nice. We don't need safe spaces for everyone and thing though.

That is bad, a matter for the law of course and isn't right but I also think deceiving someone and not telling them is wrong and not acceptable and the ones that do push that thinking can go to hell and should not act surprised if the person gets mad. Same like the morons who claim they shouldn't have to tell a sex partner they have HIV or aids.

Resetera will for sure be a safe space for them however and I don't have a problem with that. Unless they start making gaf threads about how people who don't want a trans partner or isn't attracted is a problem.

Transphobia isn't the same as hating trans. I mean no phobia is.

I agree that deceiving someone like that is wrong, murdering them for it is evil.

[thehunter116]

I guess he stopped at Gaffy Predator

Gaffy Shower is what started it all.

[Bore Expert]

I don’t mean to alarm any of you, but I’m starting to get the distinct impression that this Evilore guy might be a bad egg. Just giving a heads up.

[H.I.V.E.]

Eliminating transphobia one ban at a time. Obviously never gonna be able to have deep conversation about that topic on resetera and I never expected that. But at least they were not perma banned.

Anyone with minor sense will stay clear of that topic.

I mean that first post is just fucking stupid.

Women who are muscular aren't all trans.

Yeah first post was deserving. I mean more like anyone who even mentions it like that guy or serious debate is dumb and it will never be able to fly over there. Also people who are transphobic will never change in current climate surrounding it. You can't joke about It, ask questions or admit you have issues with it.

With Trans people I understand them getting "safe spaces". In a few states it's a justified defense to murder someone if you sleep with them and find out they're trans.

Having somewhere that you don't have to deal with yucksters and callous statements is nice. We don't need safe spaces for everyone and thing though.

That is bad, a matter for the law of course and isn't right but I also think deceiving someone and not telling them is wrong and not acceptable and the ones that do push that thinking can go to hell and should not act surprised if the person gets mad. Same like the morons who claim they shouldn't have to tell a sex partner they have HIV or aids.

Resetera will for sure be a safe space for them however and I don't have a problem with that. Unless they start making gaf threads about how people who don't want a trans partner or isn't attracted is a problem.

Transphobia isn't the same as hating trans. I mean no phobia is.

I agree that deceiving someone like that is wrong, murdering them for it is evil.

No argument.

[bluemax]

Eliminating transphobia one ban at a time. Obviously never gonna be able to have deep conversation about that topic on resetera and I never expected that. But at least they were not perma banned.

Anyone with minor sense will stay clear of that topic.

I mean that first post is just fucking stupid.

Women who are muscular aren't all trans.

The character in the trailer is based on a real person in fact! The head of Naughty Dog linked to her instagram, she's buff as fuck.

[benjipwns]

OSCAR?!?!? :'(

[Himu]

Few things.

Most dudes who fuck and kill trans women already knew.

They still use the argument that they were tricked and it's still legal by law in 48 states.

Usually they cite the law because they'd rather than do that than pubicly admit they were knowingly bedded with a trans woman.

Comparing it to people who who have sex with others without telling them their HIV status is random and a false equivalence. Niccas will kill you even if they know just because.

[OathToOrder]

Yeah, I don't know why they would kill trans people AFTER having sex with them. You would think that it would be BEFORE.

Makes no sense.

[H.I.V.E.]

Few things.

Most dudes who fuck and kill trans women already knew.

They still use the argument that they were tricked and it's still legal by law in 48 states.

Usually they cite the law because they'd rather than do that than pubicly admit they were knowingly bedded with a trans woman.

Comparing it to people who who have sex with others without telling them their HIV status is random and a false equivalence. Niccas will kill you even if they know just because.

Probably and not surprising with few exceptions, that law sounds fucked up. The reaction can be equivalent even if not the reasons. People being really sensitive about that is pretty well known and established so not informing people can lead to horrible outcomes pretending to be unaware or doing it anyway thinking it is their right is stupid.

[K]

I'm suspecting that elf is preparing to open up the forums. I can see him drop the email requirement and junior status to try to complete with Era. The rapid increase in the amount of moderators might be an indication of that.

[etiolate]

Perhaps

but

Gaffy Juliet may want to watch out for Gaffy Hotel

[H.I.V.E.]

I'm suspecting that elf is preparing to open up the forums. I can see him drop the email requirement and junior status to try to complete with Era. The rapid increase in the amount of moderators might be an indication of that.

Are those moderators not just evilore himself with many names though 

[K]

I'm suspecting that elf is preparing to open up the forums. I can see him drop the email requirement and junior status to try to complete with Era. The rapid increase in the amount of moderators might be an indication of that.

Are those moderators not just evilore himself with many names though 

Could be. Seeing as he's doing the opposite of what Era is doing (being transparent), it's hard to tell what he's doing behind the scenes. What is clear though is that he needs to bring those numbers in, so I can see him doing desperate things in order to achieve that goal.

He'll do absolutely insane shit to attempt to salvage the train wreck instead of doing the only sensible thing left to do, and that is to remove himself and sell the site.

Also, inb4 Gaffy Harvey

[Bore Expert]

I’m starting to think some of you are just jealous of Thug1’s dance moves, decadent lifestyle and especially his calm and resolve. #notagoodlook

 

[VomKriege]

At this point, he should just take a year or two and begin writing the Great American Novel. "NeoGAF The Untold Story..." An insider's view about the site from it's origins, the rise and eventual fall - all the craziness behind the scenes, self-implicating or otherwise. It's been such an important lens through which to view the last couple of decades of this burgeoning industry, as well as the internet/media/politics in general - and it's been an important international presence, at that.

Say whatever you will about the site's creator and the mods, but regardless of what you think of their morals and actions, they've no doubt got a very unique and important story to tell. NeoGAF has been culturally significant, and it's just had quite another watershed moment - this would be no less culturally important. A tell-all would not be a sell-out at this point, rather a very noteworthy contribution.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=252939609

[close]

[REDPILLALPH ABIGCOCK]

I can't be the only one to find Morrigan's username rather ironic when compared to the first 'person' I think of called Morrigan, right?

Morrigan has a progressive feminist western version though



so much better than that japanese pedo bigtit filth

[VomKriege]

Wasn't he offered $10M for the site a few years back? I bet that has to sting.

It stings knowing you're not a sell out? okay

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=252933672

Keep it real, live off invasive ads, like our forefathers.

[benjipwns]

At this point, he should just take a year or two and begin writing the Great American Novel. "NeoGAF The Untold Story..." An insider's view about the site from it's origins, the rise and eventual fall - all the craziness behind the scenes, self-implicating or otherwise. It's been such an important lens through which to view the last couple of decades of this burgeoning industry, as well as the internet/media/politics in general - and it's been an important international presence, at that.

Say whatever you will about the site's creator and the mods, but regardless of what you think of their morals and actions, they've no doubt got a very unique and important story to tell. NeoGAF has been culturally significant, and it's just had quite another watershed moment - this would be no less culturally important. A tell-all would not be a sell-out at this point, rather a very noteworthy contribution.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=252939609

[close]

there are no emoticons to properly express how i feel after reading this

thanks vom

[Aeptia]

Apparently MSNBC edited the Anita tweets in their alt-right piece to add in the Gamergate hashtag when they weren't on the originals.

The Tweets:

https://archive.fo/cwzMe/290f085473d0f815d1af883fc09a497e55ba3e1c.jpg

Their vid:
https://youtu.be/uN1P6UA7pvM?t=45s

Why would you need to edit tweets to make them look like it's related to a "harassment campaign"? That should be clear already, no? 🤔

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-do-you-think-of-duke-nukem-in-todays-climate.2072/

What do you think of Duke Nukem in today's climate?

ResetEra turning to weather science now

[Aeptia]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HErhDN8leTwJ:www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D1021396+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Toward a Feminist Postcolonial Milk Studies

Just came across this deep-hitting article in a back issue of American Quarterly, the journal from the American Studies Association.

Any typos likely from my shoddy copy-pasting.

http://www.academia.edu/4357706/Toward_a_Feminist_Postcolonial_Milk_Studies

Because milk is produced by female mammals, a feminist perspective seems to offer a logical foundation for such inquiry. From the start, feminism has been a movement for justice: at its heart is the centrality of praxis, the necessary linkage of intellectual, political, and activist work. Feminist methodology puts the lives of the oppressed at the center of the research question and undertakes studies, gathers data, and interrogates material contexts with the primary aim of improving the lives and the material conditions of the oppressed. Using standard feminist methodology, twentieth-century vegan feminists and animal ecofeminists challenged animal suffering in its many manifestations (in scientific research, and specifically in the feminized beauty and cleaning products industries; in dairy, egg, and animal food production; in “pet” keeping and breeding, zoos, rodeos, hunting, fur, and clothing) by developing a feminist theoretical perspective on the intersections of species, gender, race, class, sexuality, and nature. Motivated by an intellectual and experiential understanding of the mutually reinforcing interconnections among diverse forms of oppression, vegan feminists and ecofeminists positioned their own liberation and well-being as variously raced, classed, gendered, and sexual humans to be fundamentally interconnected to the well-being of other nondominant human and animal species, augmenting Patricia Hill Collins’s definition of intersectionality to include species as well.

In California and Wisconsin, rows of cows are lined up in stalls, with metal suction cups pumping on their teats, extracting milk; on the May 21, 2012,cover of Time magazine, a twenty-six-year-old mother is pictured, breastfeeding her three-year-old son.

Which image is more shocking? Ideologically imprisoned in a humanist colonial framework, few human mothers who breastfeed their infants use this embodied experience as an avenue for empathizing with other mammal mothers; few human parents who touch and nurture their newborns have used these behaviors’ affectionate oxytocin release as an opportunity to consider the experiences of other animal parents locked in systems of human captivity. Feminist milk studies addresses the bio-psycho-social connections produced through the behavioral and material elements of this first relationship, the mother–infant bond, and their nursing milk

For too long, the dominant culture has childishly projected its own gendered image onto nature as selfless and self-sacrificing mother, as in Shel Silverstein’s book The Giving Tree, or onto other mammal species, requiring the female bovine to symbolize maternal nature: mindless, patient, slow-moving, lactating. If we set aside this stereotype and look into her eyes, what can we see?

When you think about it, it really makes you think.

how do i get this into the archive.is or whatever it is

I applaud the OP for attempting to have a serious discussion around the phenomena of mixing feminism with animal rights. However most people are way too immature for that here. Unable to see any similarities as it is way too offensive for them to bare.

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[CurseoftheGods]

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what the fuck is this

[thehunter116]

Yeah, I don't know why they would kill trans people AFTER having sex with them. You would think that it would be BEFORE.

Makes no sense.