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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7621 on: December 28, 2017, 02:14:08 PM »
That BLM thread reads like everything I predicted about BLM.

oh wait

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On the other hand, you do see conservative media & cacs go at Shaun King.

Shaun King :lol  :neogaf

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« Reply #7622 on: December 28, 2017, 02:18:17 PM »
Madness. I called it though. I agree 100% with the essence of BLM, namely the statement. But the movement has largely been a non-factor, outside of ambulance chasing...

In terms of the weirdo divide/conquer shit between black women, LGBTQ blacks, and black men...unfortunate and  pathetic. I'd put the blame moreso on some of these dudes whose homophobia and sexism is just embarrassing.
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« Reply #7623 on: December 28, 2017, 02:19:43 PM »
At least it lasted longer and accomplished more than occupy wall street.
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« Reply #7624 on: December 28, 2017, 02:25:26 PM »
The same group fucking up BLM is the same group that fucked up OWS.


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« Reply #7625 on: December 28, 2017, 02:25:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-fans-want-to-shut-down-rotten-tomatoes-for-fresh-last-jedi-reviews.13067/

I don’t understand how they’re stanning FOR Star Wars so hard. I get stanning for intersectional feminazis — at least there’s a chance at scoring some pussy — but they’re not going to get any pussy from Star Wars.

etiolate

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« Reply #7626 on: December 28, 2017, 02:29:59 PM »
They got trolled into thinking the alt-right bombed the audience scores, so now they think it is stanning for pussy.

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« Reply #7627 on: December 28, 2017, 02:30:51 PM »
The same group fucking up BLM is the same group that fucked up OWS.
Who?

imo it's moreso a lack of centralized leadership. There is no Huey Newton here, or a collection of impressive members on the ground as well as in the media. Instead you have a effete dude in a sweater vest endorsing fast food products.
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« Reply #7628 on: December 28, 2017, 02:35:20 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-fans-want-to-shut-down-rotten-tomatoes-for-fresh-last-jedi-reviews.13067/

I don’t understand how they’re stanning FOR Star Wars so hard. I get stanning for intersectional feminazis — at least there’s a chance at scoring some pussy — but they’re not going to get any pussy from Star Wars.

they're trying to get some porg pussy

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« Reply #7629 on: December 28, 2017, 02:40:51 PM »
That BDS dude is on a roll

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2591696/

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2591966/

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Film critics -- people who studied to understand filmmaking for a living -- gave the movie a 91% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

Wouldn't that be directors ? Or writers, producers, DOPs ? Critics studied film, not filmmaking usually...

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2592140/

:usacry Conspiratorial overtones unlike the very reasonable theory those people are all DCEU fans conducting a false flag.
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« Reply #7630 on: December 28, 2017, 02:47:48 PM »
That BDS dude is on a roll

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2591696/

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2591966/

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Film critics -- people who studied to understand filmmaking for a living -- gave the movie a 91% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

Wouldn't that be directors ? Or writers, producers, DOPs ? Critics studied film, not filmmaking usually...

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2592140/

:usacry Conspiratorial overtones unlike the very reasonable theory those people are all DCEU fans conducting a false flag.

The paranoia. The know-it-all attitude. The Star Wars Superfan. The douchey looking avatar.

Hey, you don’t think it’s...

NAH. COULDN’T BE.

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« Reply #7631 on: December 28, 2017, 02:53:14 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/2585496/


The weird, conspiratorial behavior that connects stuff like Trump voters and the alt-right and Gamergate and DCEU stans is not a coincidence, it's part of a major failing of our society as a result of the internet's absolute free speech (allowing charlatans to spread falsehoods) and the democratization of information. Everyone is an expert now.


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« Reply #7632 on: December 28, 2017, 02:53:42 PM »
The same group fucking up BLM is the same group that fucked up OWS.
Who?

imo it's moreso a lack of centralized leadership. There is no Huey Newton here, or a collection of impressive members on the ground as well as in the media. Instead you have a effete dude in a sweater vest endorsing fast food products.

Any sort of internet heavy movement is going to have a hard time centralizing leadership. That sort of setup let the destructive element in, which you can call rad feminism, lgbqt, or Social Studies Warriors.

OWS had multiple problems, but the unity of the movement was broken up by the divisive tactics of that element. They came in, created separation, started pursuing causes that had nothing to do with the main point, and eventually leads to nothing but drama and self-promotion.



You can't really have your brightest and best leaders step up and organize when they have to qualify via things like the Progressive Stack. These groups/ideas come from Critical Theory and Critical Race Theory, which ends up having a simpleton's idea of power and oppression. Such a view will never get you leadership and progress, because leadership is a sign of hierarchies and those are a symptom of the oppressive system. They do not believe that organization and leadership can happen naturally or be beneficial to the group, so they tear down those that rise up and those that could do good live in fear of being the oppressor or seen as such.

https://medium.com/@YotamMarom/undoing-the-politics-of-powerlessness-72931fee5bda

That's a long run down of the dissipation of OWS by someone within it, so I'll select some quotes.

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But the truth is, it wasn’t the state, or the cold, or the media. The real problem underneath it all was a deep ambivalence about power. In fact, all of the things that made Occupy Wall Street brilliant had this paradox built into them, this politic of powerlessness woven deep inside, like a bad gene or a self-destruct mechanism.

For example, the mantra of leaderlessness came from a genuine desire to avoid classic pitfalls into hierarchy, but it was, at the same time, a farce, and divorced from any sense of collective structure or care for group culture. It foreclosed on the possibility of holding emerging leaders accountable, created a situation in which real leaders (whether worthy or not) went to the shadows instead of the square, and made it impossible to really develop one another (how, really, could we train new leaders if there weren’t supposed to be any in the first place?).

Groups like AntiFA and LGBQT have the same conundrum. They disavow leadership and hierarchical organizing, and end up a giant fucking mess that eventually gets coopted by its worst elements.

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I spent years being angry about it. I was angry at the people who had attacked the group I was part of from the inside, the people who bullied me into giving up every piece of leverage I had by making me feel like I didn’t have the right to organize the folks I had access to, who punished me every time I was quoted or interviewed, who came to the meetings I facilitated and intentionally disrupted them. The stories are too long and too many to recount here, and anyone who was in the middle of it has their own share of war stories too.

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From there, I went wandering. I bumped straight into the movement’s social media call-out culture, where people demonstrate how radical they are by destroying one another. It felt like walking into a high school locker room. In this universe, we insist on perfect politics and perfect language, to the exclusion of experimentation, learning, or constructive critique. We wear our outsiderness as a badge of pride, knowing that saying the right thing trumps doing anything at all. No one is ever good enough for us — not progressive celebrities who don’t get the whole picture, not your Facebook friend who doesn’t quite get why we say Black Lives Matter instead of All Lives Matter, not your cousin who mourned the deaths in Paris without saying an equal number of words about those in Beirut. Instead of organizing these people, we attack them. We tear down rather than teach each other, and pick apart instead of building on top of what we have.

Sounds all too familiar.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7633 on: December 28, 2017, 03:03:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/2584198/

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7634 on: December 28, 2017, 03:04:30 PM »
I'm enjoying Resetera getting angry at the cancelled Rockstar game called Whore of the Orient. Them naughty words in the title are just too much.

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It doesn't matter what the title means. However, it does matter that the title could mean something completely different.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/2593357/

"It doesn't matter what it means, what matters is how it makes me feel   :maf :maf"

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« Reply #7635 on: December 28, 2017, 03:22:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/2586923/

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I feel like this whole thing has a lot of valuable insight for writers and editors. I would not be surprised to see parts of this get added to curriculum for journalism students.

You can review documents submitted to you... AND ANNOTATE THEM !?
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7636 on: December 28, 2017, 03:26:29 PM »
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I have my doubts that they choose the title to represent that Shangai Era, obviously it was an influence since the game is based on that, but I feel that they were looking for the shock factor

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2593445/


I love this thread.

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« Reply #7637 on: December 28, 2017, 03:35:38 PM »
The same group fucking up BLM is the same group that fucked up OWS.
Who?

imo it's moreso a lack of centralized leadership. There is no Huey Newton here, or a collection of impressive members on the ground as well as in the media. Instead you have a effete dude in a sweater vest endorsing fast food products.

Any sort of internet heavy movement is going to have a hard time centralizing leadership. That sort of setup let the destructive element in, which you can call rad feminism, lgbqt, or Social Studies Warriors.

OWS had multiple problems, but the unity of the movement was broken up by the divisive tactics of that element. They came in, created separation, started pursuing causes that had nothing to do with the main point, and eventually leads to nothing but drama and self-promotion.



You can't really have your brightest and best leaders step up and organize when they have to qualify via things like the Progressive Stack. These groups/ideas come from Critical Theory and Critical Race Theory, which ends up having a simpleton's idea of power and oppression. Such a view will never get you leadership and progress, because leadership is a sign of hierarchies and those are a symptom of the oppressive system. They do not believe that organization and leadership can happen naturally or be beneficial to the group, so they tear down those that rise up and those that could do good live in fear of being the oppressor or seen as such.

https://medium.com/@YotamMarom/undoing-the-politics-of-powerlessness-72931fee5bda

That's a long run down of the dissipation of OWS by someone within it, so I'll select some quotes.

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But the truth is, it wasn’t the state, or the cold, or the media. The real problem underneath it all was a deep ambivalence about power. In fact, all of the things that made Occupy Wall Street brilliant had this paradox built into them, this politic of powerlessness woven deep inside, like a bad gene or a self-destruct mechanism.

For example, the mantra of leaderlessness came from a genuine desire to avoid classic pitfalls into hierarchy, but it was, at the same time, a farce, and divorced from any sense of collective structure or care for group culture. It foreclosed on the possibility of holding emerging leaders accountable, created a situation in which real leaders (whether worthy or not) went to the shadows instead of the square, and made it impossible to really develop one another (how, really, could we train new leaders if there weren’t supposed to be any in the first place?).

Groups like AntiFA and LGBQT have the same conundrum. They disavow leadership and hierarchical organizing, and end up a giant fucking mess that eventually gets coopted by its worst elements.

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I spent years being angry about it. I was angry at the people who had attacked the group I was part of from the inside, the people who bullied me into giving up every piece of leverage I had by making me feel like I didn’t have the right to organize the folks I had access to, who punished me every time I was quoted or interviewed, who came to the meetings I facilitated and intentionally disrupted them. The stories are too long and too many to recount here, and anyone who was in the middle of it has their own share of war stories too.

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From there, I went wandering. I bumped straight into the movement’s social media call-out culture, where people demonstrate how radical they are by destroying one another. It felt like walking into a high school locker room. In this universe, we insist on perfect politics and perfect language, to the exclusion of experimentation, learning, or constructive critique. We wear our outsiderness as a badge of pride, knowing that saying the right thing trumps doing anything at all. No one is ever good enough for us — not progressive celebrities who don’t get the whole picture, not your Facebook friend who doesn’t quite get why we say Black Lives Matter instead of All Lives Matter, not your cousin who mourned the deaths in Paris without saying an equal number of words about those in Beirut. Instead of organizing these people, we attack them. We tear down rather than teach each other, and pick apart instead of building on top of what we have.

Sounds all too familiar.

You have some weirdo opinions but I largely agree with you on this breh. When everything comes down to a purity test, no one (and nothing) is good enough. Which means you end up right where you started: on twitter, bitching and doing nothing. Now of course I do believe certain ideals shouldn't be up for negotiation or debate. But part of being a fucking adult is being able to weigh multiple un-perfect options and determining which is best for you. Obviously we saw last year that a lot of "leftists" weren't capable of that in the general election.

Effective organizing requires some basic hierarchical structure. You need effective leaders/advisers/etc, an effective strategy, and effective workers capable of carrying it out. That's true whether you're getting people to polls or grass root organizing for local petitions.

In BLM's case, at least based on multiple twitter battles over the last two years, so much focus is on who "owns" the movement and who doesn't belong. It was started by three black women, two of whom are queer. And there have been endless skirmishes over whether straight black men can have a place in "leadership," not to mention various black men who don't believe women should lead anything. All fighting over bullshit.

End of the day you're left in a spiral of misery porn where nothing is accomplished and the movement largely revolves around complaining about macro level structures (white supremacy, the state, etc) which aren't being dismantled anytime soon. So like, there are things that could be done on the local community level but many people would rather ignore that for a top down approach, because it lets them off the hook of having to actually accomplish anything.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7638 on: December 28, 2017, 03:43:58 PM »
"I want games to be considered seriously as an art form of expression and integridy"

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« Reply #7639 on: December 28, 2017, 03:47:21 PM »
http://afropunk.com/2017/09/learning-love-enough-fck-raw-black-hiv-positive/

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The fact that I am HIV positive is a result of anti-Black state sanctioned violence. The infrastructure of this world assures that Black people are the most vulnerable to poverty, homelessness, and unemployment—all factors contributing to the rise of the HIV epidemic. When we allow a single narrative, like that HIV automatically makes one undesirable, to shape such state violence, we also allow room for even more anti-Blackness.

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I am convinced that “safe sex” is now and has always been for the white boy, who gets to decide whether he wants sex to be “safe” or not, because something is always around to protect him. No matter how many Black men and non-men I have fucked, sex has never been safe. Even if our general fears of being Black and vulnerable doesn’t manifest in the bedroom like my fears, they do elsewhere. Whether it be the street, the office, the classroom, the job interview, two blocks from the precinct, Black terror always manifests.
:dead

The BLM thread on the Coli is insane.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/is-blacklivesmatter-leading-nowhere.338413/page-86

What the hell am I reading?

I don't know why this got my attention and not all the other insane nonsense, but for some reason this really jumped out at me.
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No matter how many Black men and non-men I have fucked, sex has never been safe.

Who exactly are non-men? Women? Your dog? What? lol

etiolate

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« Reply #7640 on: December 28, 2017, 03:49:16 PM »
I like

"I can't believe Bono called current "rock" music girly. That's so offensive. He should have used a different word."

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7641 on: December 28, 2017, 03:49:26 PM »
Shots fired at bish

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=253142412

Who is Bill O Rights? And finally, locked by the elf.

nudemacusers

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« Reply #7642 on: December 28, 2017, 03:54:31 PM »
missed opportunity to drop "didn't an old mod who is now revealed to be a pedophile scam the users and owner of this site out of money to fund his post election night drug binge?"
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Leadbelly

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« Reply #7643 on: December 28, 2017, 04:10:59 PM »
I was thinking this trailer was going to be awful, but it actually seems like it could be a fun movie.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mom-and-dad-trailer-nicolas-cage-selma-blair.13069/

Uncle

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« Reply #7644 on: December 28, 2017, 04:43:58 PM »


That thread lasted about 10 seconds, looks like gaf is really hoping the dude dies
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Leadbelly

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« Reply #7645 on: December 28, 2017, 04:46:03 PM »
In terms of BLM: You only have to read their original list of demands to see what they were about. Most of it had nothing to do with police shootings.

Even if we focus on police shootings, (the thing they were supposedly meant to be about) the statistics don't actually back up the claims. In fact statistically more white people are shot by police. Of course there are other issues like profiling and police stops, which may be unfairly singling out black people, but in terms of actual police shootings, it is statisitically insignificant.

I actually posted a Youtube video on this previously in this thread, where Kmele Foster outlines exactly what I just said, and suggests that the real focus should be on police reform, regardless of race. I agree with that. Making the whole thing primarily about race is only going to create division when what they really should be doing is trying to foster solidarity among the races. It is far more productive to argue that police reform is something that is beneficial to all.

Another issue I have with them is, they haven't used their influence to push against gang violence. Something that is far more of a threat to young black men than police violence is.

Kmele Foster on BLM:
« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 05:13:43 PM by Leadbelly »

Himu

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« Reply #7646 on: December 28, 2017, 04:49:35 PM »
Madness. I called it though. I agree 100% with the essence of BLM, namely the statement. But the movement has largely been a non-factor, outside of ambulance chasing...

In terms of the weirdo divide/conquer shit between black women, LGBTQ blacks, and black men...unfortunate and  pathetic. I'd put the blame moreso on some of these dudes whose homophobia and sexism is just embarrassing.

You were absolutely right about BLM dude. I bow down to you.
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Himu

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« Reply #7647 on: December 28, 2017, 04:58:23 PM »
The same group fucking up BLM is the same group that fucked up OWS.
Who?

imo it's moreso a lack of centralized leadership. There is no Huey Newton here, or a collection of impressive members on the ground as well as in the media. Instead you have a effete dude in a sweater vest endorsing fast food products.

Any sort of internet heavy movement is going to have a hard time centralizing leadership. That sort of setup let the destructive element in, which you can call rad feminism, lgbqt, or Social Studies Warriors.

OWS had multiple problems, but the unity of the movement was broken up by the divisive tactics of that element. They came in, created separation, started pursuing causes that had nothing to do with the main point, and eventually leads to nothing but drama and self-promotion.



You can't really have your brightest and best leaders step up and organize when they have to qualify via things like the Progressive Stack. These groups/ideas come from Critical Theory and Critical Race Theory, which ends up having a simpleton's idea of power and oppression. Such a view will never get you leadership and progress, because leadership is a sign of hierarchies and those are a symptom of the oppressive system. They do not believe that organization and leadership can happen naturally or be beneficial to the group, so they tear down those that rise up and those that could do good live in fear of being the oppressor or seen as such.

https://medium.com/@YotamMarom/undoing-the-politics-of-powerlessness-72931fee5bda

That's a long run down of the dissipation of OWS by someone within it, so I'll select some quotes.

Quote
But the truth is, it wasn’t the state, or the cold, or the media. The real problem underneath it all was a deep ambivalence about power. In fact, all of the things that made Occupy Wall Street brilliant had this paradox built into them, this politic of powerlessness woven deep inside, like a bad gene or a self-destruct mechanism.

For example, the mantra of leaderlessness came from a genuine desire to avoid classic pitfalls into hierarchy, but it was, at the same time, a farce, and divorced from any sense of collective structure or care for group culture. It foreclosed on the possibility of holding emerging leaders accountable, created a situation in which real leaders (whether worthy or not) went to the shadows instead of the square, and made it impossible to really develop one another (how, really, could we train new leaders if there weren’t supposed to be any in the first place?).

Groups like AntiFA and LGBQT have the same conundrum. They disavow leadership and hierarchical organizing, and end up a giant fucking mess that eventually gets coopted by its worst elements.

Quote
I spent years being angry about it. I was angry at the people who had attacked the group I was part of from the inside, the people who bullied me into giving up every piece of leverage I had by making me feel like I didn’t have the right to organize the folks I had access to, who punished me every time I was quoted or interviewed, who came to the meetings I facilitated and intentionally disrupted them. The stories are too long and too many to recount here, and anyone who was in the middle of it has their own share of war stories too.

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From there, I went wandering. I bumped straight into the movement’s social media call-out culture, where people demonstrate how radical they are by destroying one another. It felt like walking into a high school locker room. In this universe, we insist on perfect politics and perfect language, to the exclusion of experimentation, learning, or constructive critique. We wear our outsiderness as a badge of pride, knowing that saying the right thing trumps doing anything at all. No one is ever good enough for us — not progressive celebrities who don’t get the whole picture, not your Facebook friend who doesn’t quite get why we say Black Lives Matter instead of All Lives Matter, not your cousin who mourned the deaths in Paris without saying an equal number of words about those in Beirut. Instead of organizing these people, we attack them. We tear down rather than teach each other, and pick apart instead of building on top of what we have.

Sounds all too familiar.

A lot of good shit here. Speaks to my experiences within activism.

Etiolate, this medium article speaks to my experiences within activism to a T. Basically, don't trust activists. Especially career activists.

https://medium.com/@UptheCypherPunx/why-this-radical-leftist-is-disillusioned-by-leftist-culture-63419aa85a58

« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 05:06:16 PM by Cindi Mayweather »
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« Reply #7648 on: December 28, 2017, 05:23:02 PM »
One of my weirdo opinions is that the dysfunction is by design but most of those participating in the dysfunction don't realize this.

Himu

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« Reply #7649 on: December 28, 2017, 05:24:38 PM »
Dysfunction by design? Expound plz.
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Clockwork5

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7650 on: December 28, 2017, 05:29:40 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/2584198/

ResetEra, where we marvel at people doing their jobs.

Yet others are oblivious to the fact that sometimes you must do things you don't want to do in order to keep your job.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2597763/

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Doing shitty things for money is no better than doing shitty things for free. I’d say it’s worse, even. At least a true believer cares about something more than his own pocketbook.

I never got this defense.

No wonder they are all drowning in student debt.

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« Reply #7651 on: December 28, 2017, 05:35:41 PM »
A few pages back people were defending Cornel West, a widely supportive figure of the ridiculous BLM, and OWS. Two horribley run and organized political activist groups that failed miserably.  b bu bu but he's a harvard professor :omg

etiolate

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« Reply #7652 on: December 28, 2017, 06:05:11 PM »
Dysfunction by design? Expound plz.

The influences that are heavy within these movements go back to some Marxist ideas and the Cold War. Those influences eventually became a tool for subversion. They way they are formed does not create progress despite calling itself progressive. Instead, they are designed to sow seeds of conflict and doubt. They are designed to be dysfunctional because the dysfunction weakens unity, which weakens national identity. The design accomplishes continuous strife by setting up a problem and then going about that problem in such a way to preserve the problem so that they might continually lay claim to it.

From that point,t he people that support these tactics and ideologies exist in three groups: Those that understand its intent and seek it out for self-gain, those that see they can promote themselves through this but don't understand it's intent, and those that are naive to the point that they truly believe in a cultish manner.

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« Reply #7653 on: December 28, 2017, 06:07:16 PM »
I knew you'd loop back to cultural marxism. :lol

samfish

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7654 on: December 28, 2017, 06:15:28 PM »
One of my weirdo opinions is that the dysfunction is by design but most of those participating in the dysfunction don't realize this.

I more or less agree with this

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7655 on: December 28, 2017, 07:42:18 PM »
If something keeps screwing itself up in the same way over and over, you eventually have to stop and ask if the outcome is an accident or if the outcome is the intent.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7656 on: December 28, 2017, 08:08:09 PM »
the fact that russia has been using blm and other progressive movements as a means to further divide this country well before the elections even began speaks volumes

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7657 on: December 28, 2017, 08:15:59 PM »
Waiting for ResetEra thread. Jesus is real!


etiolate

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7658 on: December 28, 2017, 08:18:55 PM »
what the fuck

Himu

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7659 on: December 28, 2017, 08:20:06 PM »
"white supremacist signal"

after showing a little cute black kid marching for Jesus

:rofl

I want to hug that little cutie!
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7660 on: December 28, 2017, 08:22:42 PM »
That poor dude :fbm Is he okay?
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7661 on: December 28, 2017, 08:24:49 PM »
That poor dude :fbm Is he okay?

The truck was not injured, so all is good.


Found the lead up.  The cheering.

« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 08:29:01 PM by bdoughty »

Himu

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« Reply #7662 on: December 28, 2017, 08:27:32 PM »
:( He doesn't deserve to be paralyzed or something the rest of his life because of this tom foolery.

I'm not shocked this happened in Portland. Place is liberal/leftist hell on Earth. One of my trans friends lived in Portland and has so many bad stories of the queer community there. :fbm
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etiolate

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7663 on: December 28, 2017, 08:30:59 PM »
Oh, that's Patriot Prayer Group. I will never understood AntiFa focusing on them. They created a riot in the bay area when Patriot Prayer tried to have an event. The last Berkeley event they shut down was that Prayer Group. I don't get it.

Sometimes it's tough to tell a joke from real anitfa. I thought that video was a set up, but they do protest that group. Sorry that kid got hit by a truck. I told them to watch out for the red menace.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7664 on: December 28, 2017, 08:32:31 PM »
:( He doesn't deserve to be paralyzed or something the rest of his life because of this tom foolery.


Himu

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7665 on: December 28, 2017, 08:34:22 PM »
This entire thing feels like a set up. I feel like I'm being worked.

I think they protest them because Patriot Prayer is pro-Trump? I didn't know the group either so I just assumed they were protesting Christianity, which is such an anti-fa thing to do.
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etiolate

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7666 on: December 28, 2017, 08:42:58 PM »
As far as I know, it's a pro-America Christian group based around various Churches from the west coast area. Normally AntiFa travels in larger numbers, but maybe they're on the down low due to recent legal trouble.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7667 on: December 28, 2017, 08:46:19 PM »
A one man black bloc is pretty sad

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7668 on: December 28, 2017, 08:53:02 PM »
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I had someone in this country tell me I don't count as latin because I am white passing. What the hell? I wanted to shake her so hard!

Wow, I can't even at this objective call to violence. Typical alt-right to get so defensive over someone gently trying to help you be woke.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2580504/

I mean if we're at making sweeping generalizations, you Americans -on GAFERA- really seem fond of those labels. These threads always end up with terms being challenged (often by those they supposedly apply to) and the response seems invariably to move the goalposts to weird US centric racial overtones territory rather than to concede they're a bit pointless.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2583662/

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Wow, this went places.
I took OP’s definition at its easiest and most basic of US-influenced terms - brown person with dark hair who speaks Spanish. That’s it. That’s the overall term a ton of people use so that’s what I assumed.
Obviously I don’t agree fully with it since it’s technically wrong, but that’s what it is to a lot of American people and at the end of the day I don’t see why it’s offensive to anyone.

I dont know but assuming all south Americans are brown skinned with dark hair is a bit lol my Colombian born and raised Co worker is white and he's a ginger.

So it probably wouldn’t count to the op. It’s wrong, but I think that’s what he’s narrowed it down to. That’s the representation he’s asking for because it’s the least popular. Game publishers dislike it so much that they’ll throw people a bone by giving their characters a Spanish name and country of origin but still have them be white and speak perfect American English. That’s not what the op wants. It’s an obvious cop out by publishers and that’s what bothers him.

:what :confused :stop

This is the OP, BTW, you really have to stretch it to read it like that :

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I haven't played many games in my life but...
I can't think of a single hispanic videogame character. Let alone one that's famous. Is there a famous hispanic video game character? Which one is the most well known? How long will it take for there to be some representation if there isnt? How much does the race/heritage of a character really matter when it comes to marketing sales? I'm full of questions today.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7669 on: December 28, 2017, 09:07:22 PM »
That poor dude :fbm Is he okay?

Hip injury was the last word.

and yes, he got hit by a red van.

bdoughty

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7670 on: December 28, 2017, 09:46:38 PM »
Hip injury was the last word.

and yes, he got hit by a red van.

That was a small truck (with a camper shell), if he was hit by a van it would have been a bit more serious as his head would not have had a buffer zone.

How does one find such information about the injury? Is there some sort of Anifta website that has an Injury Report like the NFL?  Will he be put on the IR? Will be available for the next rally?

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7671 on: December 28, 2017, 09:47:31 PM »
What with Brogulls ending, I’m going to try to talk Cindi into making a comic inspired by it for big Patreon bucks. I’m thinking a little twinky possum having wild sex with a buff snow crab. What do you guys think?
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7672 on: December 28, 2017, 09:54:38 PM »
A few pages back people were defending Cornel West, a widely supportive figure of the ridiculous BLM, and OWS. Two horribley run and organized political activist groups that failed miserably.  b bu bu but he's a harvard professor :omg

You can agree with somebody on some things or in general but not necessarily be co-signing every statement they have ever made. Like I think Cornel West was largely right about Obama, and is largely right about Not being able to truly separate racism from wealth inequality and make meaningful progress in addressing it.

I also think both ows and BLM are kind of jokes, even if I agree with many of their goals.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7673 on: December 28, 2017, 10:59:56 PM »
What with Brogulls ending, I’m going to try to talk Cindi into making a comic inspired by it for big Patreon bucks. I’m thinking a little twinky possum having wild sex with a buff snow crab. What do you guys think?
I'll need to know the following bits of info:

What are each of their self prescribed sex AND gender identities.
Will there be any non-white Hispanic representation?

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7674 on: December 28, 2017, 11:37:13 PM »
What with Brogulls ending, I’m going to try to talk Cindi into making a comic inspired by it for big Patreon bucks. I’m thinking a little twinky possum having wild sex with a buff snow crab. What do you guys think?
I'll need to know the following bits of info:

What are each of their self prescribed sex AND gender identities.
Will there be any non-white Hispanic representation?

I’m very open to working with Cindi on these things so that she’s comfortable working on it. Whichever character ends up being mine would be Hispanic.  I’d like to keep it gay if possible.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7675 on: December 28, 2017, 11:49:58 PM »
:( He doesn't deserve to be paralyzed or something the rest of his life because of this tom foolery.



Man that's a pansy version of the one I saw that gave me nightmares as a kid

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7676 on: December 28, 2017, 11:56:02 PM »
A few pages back people were defending Cornel West, a widely supportive figure of the ridiculous BLM, and OWS. Two horribley run and organized political activist groups that failed miserably.  b bu bu but he's a harvard professor :omg

You can agree with somebody on some things or in general but not necessarily be co-signing every statement they have ever made. Like I think Cornel West was largely right about Obama, and is largely right about Not being able to truly separate racism from wealth inequality and make meaningful progress in addressing it.

I also think both ows and BLM are kind of jokes, even if I agree with many of their goals.
Yeah you can agree with somebody on some things, but i've never once seen him say anything worthwhile, ever. I enjoy watching Bill Maher and he tends to have decent guests on there at times but every single goddamn time Cornel West comes on i fucking gringe, i gringe for Bill, I gringe for the audience, I gringe for the left.

Has the guy ever come out and said he was wrong about not supporting Hilary? Or does he still believe voting for the lesser of two evils is pointless?

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7677 on: December 29, 2017, 12:15:22 AM »
A few pages back people were defending Cornel West, a widely supportive figure of the ridiculous BLM, and OWS. Two horribley run and organized political activist groups that failed miserably.  b bu bu but he's a harvard professor :omg

You can agree with somebody on some things or in general but not necessarily be co-signing every statement they have ever made. Like I think Cornel West was largely right about Obama, and is largely right about Not being able to truly separate racism from wealth inequality and make meaningful progress in addressing it.

I also think both ows and BLM are kind of jokes, even if I agree with many of their goals.
Yeah you can agree with somebody on some things, but i've never once seen him say anything worthwhile, ever. I enjoy watching Bill Maher and he tends to have decent guests on there at times but every single goddamn time Cornel West comes on i fucking gringe, i gringe for Bill, I gringe for the audience, I gringe for the left.

Has the guy ever come out and said he was wrong about not supporting Hilary? Or does he still believe voting for the lesser of two evils is pointless?
How about Adam West? Does he make you cringe?

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7678 on: December 29, 2017, 12:46:02 AM »
no he makes him gringe

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #7679 on: December 29, 2017, 01:32:49 AM »
What with Brogulls ending, I’m going to try to talk Cindi into making a comic inspired by it for big Patreon bucks. I’m thinking a little twinky possum having wild sex with a buff snow crab. What do you guys think?
I'll need to know the following bits of info:

What are each of their self prescribed sex AND gender identities.
Will there be any non-white Hispanic representation?

I’m very open to working with Cindi on these things so that she’s comfortable working on it. Whichever character ends up being mine would be Hispanic.  I’d like to keep it gay if possible.

Oops. I thought you were having a joke about something I obviously knew nothing about. My bad.

User Warned: Why would you make such a stupid comment about something you know absolutely nothing about. Not everything is a joke you stupid fucking goose.