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« Reply #240 on: March 05, 2018, 03:02:50 AM »
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« Reply #241 on: March 05, 2018, 07:49:30 PM »
Blyth talk is worth checking out, but I don't see the link between heirarchy or gender norms and authoritarianism that he uses in his Trumpetism reasons.  Neither are authoritarian by default. They need a lot of things associated with them to be authoritarian.

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« Reply #242 on: March 06, 2018, 11:50:56 AM »
Blyth talk is worth checking out, but I don't see the link between heirarchy or gender norms and authoritarianism that he uses in his Trumpetism reasons.  Neither are authoritarian by default. They need a lot of things associated with them to be authoritarian.
After an hour and a half of nuclear truth bombs your take away is to single out  a sentence on a slide by pondering the questionable correlation between authoritarianism and misogynists?
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« Reply #243 on: March 06, 2018, 01:04:24 PM »
I could take exception to his putting his head in the sand on immigration and wahhabism by just calling it racism. There's things about him that are hand-me-down leftist takes that don't stand up to pressure.

However, his talk is interesting and full of information. I did recommend watching it after all. =P

 I just found the hierarchy/gender norms bit to be non-scientific in a list of scientific studies. Gender is a largely bimodal distribution, so belief in traditional genders is closer to the truth than rejection of gender nroms.  Belief in hierarchies are a belief in known biological structures. Nothing authoritarian about it. Some people are going to see these errors and ditch the talk. He'd reach more people if took out the pleasing lies for leftists. It may also better inform his idea of global trumpism.


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« Reply #245 on: March 07, 2018, 01:39:17 AM »
https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/970815875635929088

Honestly scientists shouldn't be allowed to talk about the humanities for their own good

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« Reply #246 on: March 07, 2018, 01:42:56 AM »
I get all my fashion advice from Stephen Hawking.

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« Reply #247 on: March 07, 2018, 02:13:46 AM »
Hey man you never see Hawking crying like a pussy while wearing a cardigan

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« Reply #248 on: March 07, 2018, 02:25:50 AM »
Peterson saying spirals in ancient art are depictions of the DNA double helix.

This is hotep shit for white people. It makes so much more sense now.

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« Reply #249 on: March 07, 2018, 02:39:38 AM »
"What do they represent? Well, the question is, what did the gods represent? And the represent, they represent, they sort of like..."



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« Reply #250 on: March 07, 2018, 12:11:12 PM »
Why does Peterson threaten y'all? I made this thread about the general group of discussion, but the whiners focus on Peterson. I know why I threaten some of you. I don't get why you'd care to be threatened by Jordan.

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« Reply #251 on: March 07, 2018, 12:21:18 PM »
Why does Peterson threaten y'all? I made this thread about the general group of discussion, but the whiners focus on Peterson. I know why I threaten some of you. I don't get why you'd care to be threatened by Jordan.


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« Reply #252 on: March 07, 2018, 12:23:51 PM »
So it's jealousy. Always jealousy with you people.

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« Reply #253 on: March 07, 2018, 12:28:53 PM »
lol what? Jealous of what?

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« Reply #254 on: March 07, 2018, 12:32:27 PM »
Your first (incorrect) presupposition is that anyone is "threatened" by this WASP-ass motherfucker. :lol

Spoiler: we're laughing at him cause he's dumb, and you're dumb for stanning him so hard :crowdlaff

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« Reply #255 on: March 07, 2018, 12:35:01 PM »
I'm just laughing that he's a god damn professor who gets paid to speak for a living yet he was speaking like a valley girl with Kermit The Frog's voice.

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« Reply #256 on: March 07, 2018, 12:37:35 PM »
I'm just laughing that he's a god damn professor who gets paid to speak for a living yet he was speaking like a valley girl with Kermit The Frog's voice.

Also, this.

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« Reply #257 on: March 07, 2018, 12:45:56 PM »
I think Jordan Petersen says interesting stuff, I also think he's a loon for believing the bible is a series of transcendent metaphorical wisdom. These books were written by people who fuck goats.

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« Reply #258 on: March 07, 2018, 12:47:19 PM »
I think Jordan Petersen says interesting stuff, I also think he's a loon for believing the bible is a series of transcendent metaphorical wisdom. These books were written by people who fuck goats.

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« Reply #259 on: March 07, 2018, 12:49:26 PM »
I think TVC says interesting stuff, I also think he's a loon for trying to coerce people into fish and or 7/11 dumpster sex

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« Reply #260 on: March 07, 2018, 12:52:22 PM »
I think Jordan Petersen says interesting stuff, I also think he's a loon for believing the bible is a series of transcendent metaphorical wisdom. These books were written by people who fuck goats.

That's not a fair take on how books like a bible get created. Those works are the collected wisdoms of a people that have been passed down, often in oral traditions for great periods of time.

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« Reply #261 on: March 07, 2018, 12:58:42 PM »
And some of that wisdom was "guys, c'mon, stop fucking goats."

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« Reply #262 on: March 07, 2018, 12:58:58 PM »
Peterson looks too deeply into the ramblings of drunk, bored goat farmers. Is there some practical stuff in there (like don't eat pork cause it probably made them sick from under cooking it?), sure. But it's not the year minus 589 anymore and we can explain these folktales. To take the lessons and meanings he does from it is insane.

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« Reply #263 on: March 07, 2018, 01:04:23 PM »
It's not that insane when you realize they had ancient forms of reciprocity theory. The sheathed sword wisdom is quite good as well. Many ideas of then still have value today. We repeat them in different ways, but we understand them at a certain level. This is not because we just don't have anything better. 


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« Reply #264 on: March 07, 2018, 01:06:01 PM »
The Cain and Able lecture is really good. About the origin of cynicism.
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« Reply #265 on: March 07, 2018, 01:06:50 PM »
The Cain and Able lecture is really good.

I bet it's not.

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« Reply #266 on: March 07, 2018, 01:10:53 PM »
I think Sam Harris annihilated Peterson on this subject when they debated it. Go collect all Jack Remington's posts and analyse them and you'll 100% be able to insert the same kind of metaphorical wisdom into them.

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« Reply #267 on: March 07, 2018, 01:12:56 PM »
That kind of analysis is totally unfalsifiable, yeah. But much of it is very convincing.
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« Reply #268 on: March 07, 2018, 01:14:32 PM »
I bet it's not.
does anyone like you
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« Reply #269 on: March 07, 2018, 01:17:30 PM »
I bet it's not.
does anyone like you
Women sometimes wear lipstick around me, so at least I know I'm the object of their sexual desire.

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« Reply #270 on: March 07, 2018, 01:23:59 PM »
It's not that insane when you realize they had ancient forms of reciprocity theory. The sheathed sword wisdom is quite good as well. Many ideas of then still have value today. We repeat them in different ways, but we understand them at a certain level. This is not because we just don't have anything better. 



If you can glean stuff from The Bible (or any religious text) and it improves your life or perspective, that's great. That's kind of the point of it all. When you're in your mid 50s and suddenly decide The Bible is immutable ancient wisdom that ACTUALLY means XYZ and film yourself having ranting on Youtube while crying, that suggests to me that there's something deeper going on in his life he's trying to work out.

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« Reply #271 on: March 07, 2018, 01:29:40 PM »
Also if you want to use the Bible to justify traditional gender roles, bringing in Jungian myth analysis and speculation about genetic memory seems a pretty fuckin' roundabout way of doing it.

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« Reply #272 on: March 07, 2018, 01:36:42 PM »
Why does Peterson threaten y'all? I made this thread about the general group of discussion, but the whiners focus on Peterson. I know why I threaten some of you. I don't get why you'd care to be threatened by Jordan.

I think most of us are focusing on Peterson because he's the one that's been given the current title of lead right-wing "intellectual". I don't recall if someone like Steven Pinker makes $70k/month on Patreon for telling Trump fans to wipe their asses.

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« Reply #273 on: March 07, 2018, 01:39:26 PM »
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/971195232703406081


https://twitter.com/craigsilverman/status/971378991331409920?s=21

Glad to see Peterson applies as much academic rigor into confirming whether or not that's a real twitter account, as he did with the C-16 bill.

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« Reply #274 on: March 07, 2018, 02:26:36 PM »
Peterson goes around and speaks to groups of mostly young people who are mostly young men to encourage them to focus on their lives and responsibilities, not get caught up in collectivism and not end up the psycho who shoots up schools.

And this is the person that you focus on attacking.

One of the many reasons I think people on this forum are fucked in the head.

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« Reply #275 on: March 07, 2018, 02:30:16 PM »
"attacking"


or

Making fun of his silly voice


Same thing I guess

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« Reply #276 on: March 07, 2018, 02:30:31 PM »
You know if he didnt succeed in siphoning money from that dumb ass cultural niche of ours, he would of fucked right back off to communada instead of dying a poor martyr of individualism in the bastion of liberty.

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« Reply #277 on: March 07, 2018, 02:30:40 PM »
speculation about genetic memory

What's Peterson's ranking of the Assassin's Creed games?

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« Reply #278 on: March 07, 2018, 02:43:16 PM »
Peterson goes around and speaks to groups of mostly young people who are mostly young men to encourage them to focus on their lives and responsibilities, not get caught up in collectivism and not end up the psycho who shoots up schools.

Welp. I certainly did not expect "Jordan Peterson's fans are the sort of dudes you'd expect to snap and murder a bunch of their classmates" to show up in this thread as a pro-Peterson take.

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« Reply #279 on: March 07, 2018, 02:51:49 PM »
I attack him because he is popular and makes money.

But it's not out of jealousy, I swear.

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« Reply #280 on: March 07, 2018, 02:58:20 PM »
Or it's because people go in at the first target on the front row. Of the youtube "intellectuals" this is the only guy I know

I'm liking the you're just jealous routine though. It's like we're back on NeoGAF.

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« Reply #281 on: March 07, 2018, 03:08:39 PM »

*User was warned for: Making light of sexual assault. S1.


Did peterson touch you eti? Do you want to talk about it? :-*

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« Reply #282 on: March 07, 2018, 03:09:35 PM »
How did etiolet know my life long dream was to talk about what The Bible is REALLY about and the tyranny of zimzers on Joe Rogan's podcast?

 :mindblown

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« Reply #283 on: March 07, 2018, 03:14:37 PM »
I attack him because he is popular and makes money.

But it's not out of jealousy, I swear.
Oh damn, inserting two more premises and insisting on them being correct is gonna do it.
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« Reply #284 on: March 07, 2018, 03:41:18 PM »
I attack him because he is popular and makes money.

But it's not out of jealousy, I swear.

Don't forget his huge cock as well.

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« Reply #285 on: March 07, 2018, 03:41:35 PM »
Of the youtube "intellectuals" this is the only guy I know

Yeah, for me it's him and Logan Paul.

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« Reply #286 on: March 07, 2018, 03:47:40 PM »
I thought Logan Paul was just some dude that peddles shit to kids. "Buy this shirt on which I laugh at a dead guy."

5 year old girl: "He's my hero.   :-* "

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« Reply #287 on: March 07, 2018, 04:06:56 PM »
And by et's adamantium-clad logic, he would no doubt never criticize some successful person on the Left like Cenk Uygur or Rachel Maddow because doing so would be nothing more than a sign of immense jealousy.

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« Reply #288 on: March 07, 2018, 04:10:11 PM »
I'd critique what they get wrong. If someone asked me why I did so, my response wouldn't be "they're making money off you and they are big right now!"

Because that reeks of immature jealousy.

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« Reply #289 on: March 07, 2018, 04:29:02 PM »
the bore bully squad strikes again, next they'll be doxxing Jordan Peterson

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« Reply #290 on: March 07, 2018, 04:31:40 PM »
Mandark being reductive is a lot funnier than Etiolate being reductive.
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« Reply #291 on: March 07, 2018, 04:42:59 PM »
it has limited appeal. Sometimes it's just transgressive and annoying.
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« Reply #292 on: March 07, 2018, 04:52:07 PM »
^^This is what Peterson references in that the threat of violence forms how men talk to each other, with the positive view being that it civilizes discussion by putting down boundaries.

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« Reply #293 on: March 07, 2018, 04:59:52 PM »
I don't think it's any deeper than Mandark doesn't think it's worth his time or a dignified response but can still milk some snark out for self satisfaction.
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« Reply #294 on: March 07, 2018, 05:20:34 PM »
Etoilet, what if I told you I don't care who Jordan Peterson is making money off, that he's big or why, that what he's saying is inoffensive to me in every way and usually pretty reasonable and certainly not anything for people to be upset about.

I just find his voice and speaking style humorous. Does that still make me jealous?

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« Reply #295 on: March 07, 2018, 05:30:13 PM »
It does not make you jealous, but you aren't really who I am talking about.


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« Reply #296 on: March 07, 2018, 05:36:32 PM »
I don't think it's any deeper than Mandark doesn't think it's worth his time or a dignified response but can still milk some snark out for self satisfaction.

Yup.

Like the lipstick thing. It's just so brazenly, self-evidently idiotic that I can't imagine a functioning adult who's ever held a job would take it seriously unless they were being deliberately thick, in which case I'm not getting through in any case. I just feel too old to want to push that particular boulder up the hill.

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« Reply #297 on: March 07, 2018, 06:01:43 PM »
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/971195232703406081


https://twitter.com/craigsilverman/status/971378991331409920?s=21

Glad to see Peterson applies as much academic rigor into confirming whether or not that's a real twitter account, as he did with the C-16 bill.

It's amazing what an outsized role Antifa plays in the right-wing imagination as compared to their actual real world presence. I'm sure Zizek would have something to say about that.

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« Reply #298 on: March 07, 2018, 06:04:32 PM »


Zizek's headshot :dead He really does look like a raccoon

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« Reply #299 on: March 07, 2018, 07:17:21 PM »
I don't think it's any deeper than Mandark doesn't think it's worth his time or a dignified response but can still milk some snark out for self satisfaction.

If that were truly the case then he wouldn't be posting. That he invests the time he does betrays him.

When you really don't care then you don't even talk about it.