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[kingv]

Still thinking the gender pay gap isn’t real in 2018 

How does the pay gap affect bigendered individuals?

That’s a good question. I’m not really sure. But I would be willing to bet that openly practicing non-conforming gendered people are affected.

Is it surprising that no one wants to hire someone who thinks their gender is “bunny”?

Okay genius, ignoring the fact that you just made that up and no one is going into an interview saying “my gender is bunny” that doesn’t account for the millions of trans individuals not getting hired and also making far less.

Then what is a non-confirming gender? Autigender? Can you draw a Venn diagram of people that consider themselves to be autigender, but are also good at interviewing?

Like, people that can’t choose between the two widely accepted categories seem to me to be highly
likely to be extremely weird and/or insufferable.

Because you seem to be an ignorant and misinformed, I’ll explain it again. People do not choose their gender. For a very long time and in many ways our society, media, etc. attempts to shove every single person on the incredibly complex gender spectrum into two neat little boxes. Our society has the desire to label everything. People inventing so many gender terms is a response for the desire of a label they feel comfortable with. It would be great to just be yourself and not need any term. But in the world we live in, bigender is the closeted to describing what I AM.

I’ll repeat, NOT what I CHOSE.

WHAT I AM.

Even if you can prove to me that these people are going into job interviews, saying some random gender term for themselves and expecting a different random pronoun, that would STILL not account for the millions of trans individuals that identify solely as male or female that are being denied jobs, or paid less, which is what the statistic you continue to ignore was ACTUALLY about.

“But I hate tumblrinas and they claim to be gender non conforming so that MUST mean ALL gender non conforming people are worthy of ridicule and literally being denied jobs too.”

This is just silly. Also, can not believe you gender shamed Lagogender people earlier. My buns and I are all very sad.

As we’ve discussed many times before, I believe cream is just trolling. “They” were trolling RE and are now trolling the bore.

I’m fine with trans people, but I align with tru scum like Cindi. You can be whatever gender you want but it has to be a real one.

[Cream]

“I dismiss your identity and all the facts and statistics about marginalized groups not because I’m racist or transphobic but because I just think YOU are a bad person.”

Don't confuse me not caring about your identity with me dismissing your identity.

 So what was you calling all the stuff I posted fake news?

[Kurt Russell]

I've experienced both of these things.

So it must be one or the other then.

Why is it not obvious what was weird/dumb about the statement? lol

I'm not getting something here. I read his post, thought about all the free work food I've ever had and pretty much compartmentalized it into one of those two (and pizzas). It just rung true with me, so didn't seem odd, I guess.

[kingv]

I've experienced both of these things.

So it must be one or the other then.

Why is it not obvious what was weird/dumb about the statement? lol

Almost everything Nintex says is some distinguished mentally-challenged anecdotal experience he thinks means anything.

"I've had 2 bosses, therefore bosses are either this way or that way."

Well I've never seen that.. so it doesn't happen.

He’s the Dutch lion pride but with less N bombs.

[Cream]

Still thinking the gender pay gap isn’t real in 2018 

How does the pay gap affect bigendered individuals?

That’s a good question. I’m not really sure. But I would be willing to bet that openly practicing non-conforming gendered people are affected.

Is it surprising that no one wants to hire someone who thinks their gender is “bunny”?

Okay genius, ignoring the fact that you just made that up and no one is going into an interview saying “my gender is bunny” that doesn’t account for the millions of trans individuals not getting hired and also making far less.

Then what is a non-confirming gender? Autigender? Can you draw a Venn diagram of people that consider themselves to be autigender, but are also good at interviewing?

Like, people that can’t choose between the two widely accepted categories seem to me to be highly
likely to be extremely weird and/or insufferable.

Because you seem to be an ignorant and misinformed, I’ll explain it again. People do not choose their gender. For a very long time and in many ways our society, media, etc. attempts to shove every single person on the incredibly complex gender spectrum into two neat little boxes. Our society has the desire to label everything. People inventing so many gender terms is a response for the desire of a label they feel comfortable with. It would be great to just be yourself and not need any term. But in the world we live in, bigender is the closeted to describing what I AM.

I’ll repeat, NOT what I CHOSE.

WHAT I AM.

Even if you can prove to me that these people are going into job interviews, saying some random gender term for themselves and expecting a different random pronoun, that would STILL not account for the millions of trans individuals that identify solely as male or female that are being denied jobs, or paid less, which is what the statistic you continue to ignore was ACTUALLY about.

“But I hate tumblrinas and they claim to be gender non conforming so that MUST mean ALL gender non conforming people are worthy of ridicule and literally being denied jobs too.”

This is just silly. Also, can not believe you gender shamed Lagogender people earlier. My buns and I are all very sad.

As we’ve discussed many times before, I believe cream is just trolling. “They” were trolling RE and are now trolling the bore.

I’m fine with trans people, but I align with tru scum like Cindi. You can be whatever gender you want but it has to be a real one.

Bigenderism IS real. It’s what I AM. IM NOT TROLLING

[FunSlower]

anyone got any links to some bad era posting?

[agrajag]

Last time you tried (before you ran away in a huff), you couldn't even coherently describe your experience as a bigender and ways it manifests itself. Care to try again?

[Kurt Russell]

So what was you calling all the stuff I posted fake news?

Wait. Are you getting all salty because I equated you to Russians?

[shosta]

[samir]

Bigenderism might be real, as in it is a real medical condition that needs treatment by professionals.

There is only male and female. You can be transgender, sure, but you can't be both. Those are the rules we abide by.

[marrec]

This thread needs a hot, drunken fucking shower

 

[BisMarckie]

anyone got any links to some bad era posting?

You're looking right at them

[kingv]

cream is cindi?

For all in tents and porpoises

Are you kidding me? Cindi has went so far right she shits in the men’s room these days.

[Kurt Russell]

anyone got any links to some bad era posting?

You're looking right at them

(Image removed from quote.)

Excuse me. I think you'll find mine are don't care posts, acshulllllly.

[Nintex]

I've experienced both of these things.

So it must be one or the other then.

Why is it not obvious what was weird/dumb about the statement? lol

Almost everything Nintex says is some distinguished mentally-challenged anecdotal experience he thinks means anything.

"I've had 2 bosses, therefore bosses are either this way or that way."

Well I've never seen that.. so it doesn't happen.

He’s the Dutch lion pride but with less N bombs.

This is the worst I've ever been trolled.

Congratulations Bore 

[HardcoreRetro]

CannonFodder stop being a bitch and post something instead of dick riding Cream all the time

[kingv]

anyone got any links to some bad era posting?

We brought the bad era posting here now.

You can ignore it with Bore Clear

[Cream]

Last time you tried (before you ran away in a huff), you couldn't even coherently describe your experience as a bigender and ways it manifests itself. Care to try again?

Bigender, bi-gender or dual gender is a gender identity that includes any two gender identities and behaviors, possibly depending on context. Some bigender individuals express two distinct "female" and "male" personas, feminine and masculine respectively; others find that they identify as two genders simultaneously. It is recognized by the American Psychological Association (APA) as a subset of the transgender group. A 1999 survey conducted by the San Francisco Department of Public Health observed that, among the transgender community, less than 3% of those who were assigned male at birth and less than 8% of those who were assigned female at birth identified as bigender.

Bigender is a gender identity which can be literally translated as 'two genders' or 'double gender'. Bigender people experience exactly two gender identities, either simultaneously or varying between the two. These two gender identities could be male and female, but could also include non-binary identities. For other identities for those who experience multiple genders, please see multigender.

Bigender people may also identify as multigender, non-binary and/or transgender. If a bigender person feels that their identity changes over time or depending on circumstance, they may also identify as genderfluid, which describes any person whose gender identity varies over time.

Bigender people can have any gender expression but many prefer to be seen as androgynous and/or change their presentation to be more masculine or feminine depending on their current identity. Bigender people may experience dysphoria in which they want their body to reflect traits from two distinct sexes, or experience dysphoria at some times but not others. However, not all bigender people experience dysphoria. Some bigender people may choose to transition so that their body more closely matches their gender identity, but not all do.

Bigender people can be any sexuality, and should not be confused with bisexual.

[shosta]

[Kurt Russell]

I'm not getting something here.

The fuck did the second option of his 2 types of bosses even mean?  "Or some guy that thinks that his homemade stuff is better because he found the recipe during his journey to discover himself and pure business genius "  What? 

lol

Just wait until some Audi driving, button down collared, Lean Six Sigma BUSINESS ASSHOLE tries to make you eat his homemade flapjacks and you are so convincing when you pretend to like them that he forces you to eat a second.

[tummyfat]

If I have an Xbox and Playstation am I biconsole?

[Momo]

it's not even worth posting videos or gifs, i've done disappointed dad for the last what feels like 6 months in this thread, it's time to just let it happen 

[agrajag]

Last time you tried (before you ran away in a huff), you couldn't even coherently describe your experience as a bigender and ways it manifests itself. Care to try again?

Bigender, bi-gender or dual gender is a gender identity that includes any two gender identities and behaviors, possibly depending on context. Some bigender individuals express two distinct "female" and "male" personas, feminine and masculine respectively; others find that they identify as two genders simultaneously. It is recognized by the American Psychological Association (APA) as a subset of the transgender group. A 1999 survey conducted by the San Francisco Department of Public Health observed that, among the transgender community, less than 3% of those who were assigned male at birth and less than 8% of those who were assigned female at birth identified as bigender.

Bigender is a gender identity which can be literally translated as 'two genders' or 'double gender'. Bigender people experience exactly two gender identities, either simultaneously or varying between the two. These two gender identities could be male and female, but could also include non-binary identities. For other identities for those who experience multiple genders, please see multigender.

Bigender people may also identify as multigender, non-binary and/or transgender. If a bigender person feels that their identity changes over time or depending on circumstance, they may also identify as genderfluid, which describes any person whose gender identity varies over time.

Bigender people can have any gender expression but many prefer to be seen as androgynous and/or change their presentation to be more masculine or feminine depending on their current identity. Bigender people may experience dysphoria in which they want their body to reflect traits from two distinct sexes, or experience dysphoria at some times but not others. However, not all bigender people experience dysphoria. Some bigender people may choose to transition so that their body more closely matches their gender identity, but not all do.

Bigender people can be any sexuality, and should not be confused with bisexual.

You copy pasted that from a sociology paper.

I want you to describe why you think you are both male and female.

[HardcoreRetro]

it's not even worth posting videos or gifs, i've done disappointed dad for the last what feels like 6 months in this thread, it's time to just let it happen 

Thread theme song

[kingv]

Fuck, I’m pretty sure I’ve watched bigender porn before.

[team filler]

This thread needs a hot, drunken fucking shower

found lore's alt 

[kingv]

I've experienced both of these things.

So it must be one or the other then.

Why is it not obvious what was weird/dumb about the statement? lol

Almost everything Nintex says is some distinguished mentally-challenged anecdotal experience he thinks means anything.

"I've had 2 bosses, therefore bosses are either this way or that way."

Well I've never seen that.. so it doesn't happen.

He’s the Dutch lion pride but with less N bombs.

This is the worst I've ever been trolled.

Congratulations Bore 

I didn’t mean it... even though I sometimes suspect that you’re actually some kind of really low key “the_donald” poster pretending to be European so you can admire his policies with less pushback.

[Kurt Russell]

You copy pasted that from a sociology paper.

I want you to describe why you think you are both male and female.

[Cream]

Last time you tried (before you ran away in a huff), you couldn't even coherently describe your experience as a bigender and ways it manifests itself. Care to try again?

Bigender, bi-gender or dual gender is a gender identity that includes any two gender identities and behaviors, possibly depending on context. Some bigender individuals express two distinct "female" and "male" personas, feminine and masculine respectively; others find that they identify as two genders simultaneously. It is recognized by the American Psychological Association (APA) as a subset of the transgender group. A 1999 survey conducted by the San Francisco Department of Public Health observed that, among the transgender community, less than 3% of those who were assigned male at birth and less than 8% of those who were assigned female at birth identified as bigender.

Bigender is a gender identity which can be literally translated as 'two genders' or 'double gender'. Bigender people experience exactly two gender identities, either simultaneously or varying between the two. These two gender identities could be male and female, but could also include non-binary identities. For other identities for those who experience multiple genders, please see multigender.

Bigender people may also identify as multigender, non-binary and/or transgender. If a bigender person feels that their identity changes over time or depending on circumstance, they may also identify as genderfluid, which describes any person whose gender identity varies over time.

Bigender people can have any gender expression but many prefer to be seen as androgynous and/or change their presentation to be more masculine or feminine depending on their current identity. Bigender people may experience dysphoria in which they want their body to reflect traits from two distinct sexes, or experience dysphoria at some times but not others. However, not all bigender people experience dysphoria. Some bigender people may choose to transition so that their body more closely matches their gender identity, but not all do.

Bigender people can be any sexuality, and should not be confused with bisexual.

You copy pasted that from a sociology paper.

I want you to describe why you think you are both male and female.

I KNOW that I am both male and female. I do not hate my body  but I have frequent daily experiences of gender dysphoria.

[Optimus]

OK guys this is important, given that bigender is a gender can I be bigender with one of my genders being bigender?

[BisMarckie]

[Kurt Russell]

I KNOW that I am both male and female. I do not hate my body  but I have frequent daily experiences of gender dysphoria.

...but the "bi" would imply simultaneously. What you are describing is not simultaneous.

[HardcoreRetro]

OK guys this is important, given that bigender is a gender can I be bigender with one of my genders being bigender?

[Cream]

I KNOW that I am both male and female. I do not hate my body  but I have frequent daily experiences of gender dysphoria.

...but the "bi" would imply simultaneously. What you are describing is not simultaneous.

No there are many bigender people  where is not simultaneous.  Or people where it is simultaneous but not all of the time and sometimes it’s one or the other.  For me it is simultaneous most of the time.  And even when it is simultaneous that doesn’t mean I don’t get dysphoria from half of my identity being out of body.  It’s just not as severe dysphoria as it would be if I was completely trans.

[HaughtyFrank]

cream is cindi?

For all in tents and porpoises

Are you kidding me? Cindi has went so far right she shits in the men’s room these days.

We're talking about a split personality situation here. The right brain half went right, the left left.
Naturally are those personalities not aware of each other, so any time Cindy and Cream deny it my theory is confirmed.

[Cream]

OK guys this is important, given that bigender is a gender can I be bigender with one of my genders being bigender?

No, that'd be Tri-gender according to it's logic.

....a mod just told you to stop doing that

[Momo]

[HardcoreRetro]

[Nintex]

I also have this theory that you can tell everything about a person by looking at the YouTube recommendations after the video ends. 

Like I get Joe Rogan, an interview with Putin, Kirby, some vlog about start-ups a Christopher Walken scene from 7 Psychopaths and a music video.

[team filler]

OK guys this is important, given that bigender is a gender can I be bigender with one of my genders being bigender?

No, that'd be Tri-gender according to it's logic.

....a mod just told you to stop doing that

she put's the lotion in the basket, or else she gets the hose again 

[Kurt Russell]

[samir]

There is no scientific proof of bigenderism. Show us the receipts.

[kingv]

I’m titillated that I have finally met my futa-mommy.

[shosta]

[Cream]

There is no scientific proof of bigenderism. Show us the receipts.

 It’s severely under researched but here’s what I have:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22364652/

Alternating gender incongruity: a new neuropsychiatric syndrome providing insight into the dynamic plasticity of brain-sex.
Case LK, et al. Med Hypotheses. 2012.
Show full citation
Abstract
Between the two extreme ends of human sexuality - male and female - lie a poorly understood and poorly studied spectrum of ambiguously defined sexual identities that are very much a part of the human condition but defy rigid classification. "Bigender" is a recently formed sub-category of transgenderism, describing individuals who experience a blending or alternation of gender states. While recognized nominally by the APA, no scientific work to our knowledge has addressed this fascinating condition, or proposed any physiological basis for it. In addition, the alternation aspect has not been proposed as a nosological entity distinct from blending. We present descriptive data suggesting that many bigender individuals experience an involuntary switching of gender states without any amnesia for either state. In addition, similar to transsexual individuals, the majority of bigender individuals experience phantom breasts or genitalia corresponding to the non-biologic gender when they are in a trans-gender state. Finally, our survey found decreased lateralization of handedness in the bigender community. These observations suggest a biologic basis of bigenderism and lead us to propose a novel gender condition, "alternating gender incongruity" (AGI). We hypothesize that AGI may be related to an unusual degree or depth of hemispheric switching and corresponding callosal suppression of sex appropriate body maps in parietal cortex- possibly the superior parietal lobule- and its reciprocal connections with the insula and hypothalamus. This is based on two lines of reasoning. First, bigender individuals in our survey sample reported an elevated rate of bipolar disorder, which has been linked to slowed hemispheric switching. We hypothesize that tracking the nasal cycle, rate of binocular rivalry, and other markers of hemispheric switching will reveal a physiological basis for AGI individuals' subjective reports of gender switches. Switching may also trigger hormonal cascades, which we are currently exploring. Second, we base our hypotheses on ancient and modern associations between the left and right hemispheres and the male and female genders. By providing a case of sharp brain-sex shifts within individuals, we believe that the study of AGI could prove illuminating to scientific understanding of gender, body representation, and the nature of self.

[Drainage]

Scaling the mighty Mt. Kilimanjaro would be easier than bridging the divide between Cream and all the careposters. And only an elite few have accomplished such things.

[samir]

There is no scientific proof of bigenderism. Show us the receipts.

 It’s severely under researched but here’s what I have:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22364652/

Alternating gender incongruity: a new neuropsychiatric syndrome providing insight into the dynamic plasticity of brain-sex.
Case LK, et al. Med Hypotheses. 2012.
Show full citation
Abstract
Between the two extreme ends of human sexuality - male and female - lie a poorly understood and poorly studied spectrum of ambiguously defined sexual identities that are very much a part of the human condition but defy rigid classification. "Bigender" is a recently formed sub-category of transgenderism, describing individuals who experience a blending or alternation of gender states. While recognized nominally by the APA, no scientific work to our knowledge has addressed this fascinating condition, or proposed any physiological basis for it. In addition, the alternation aspect has not been proposed as a nosological entity distinct from blending. We present descriptive data suggesting that many bigender individuals experience an involuntary switching of gender states without any amnesia for either state. In addition, similar to transsexual individuals, the majority of bigender individuals experience phantom breasts or genitalia corresponding to the non-biologic gender when they are in a trans-gender state. Finally, our survey found decreased lateralization of handedness in the bigender community. These observations suggest a biologic basis of bigenderism and lead us to propose a novel gender condition, "alternating gender incongruity" (AGI). We hypothesize that AGI may be related to an unusual degree or depth of hemispheric switching and corresponding callosal suppression of sex appropriate body maps in parietal cortex- possibly the superior parietal lobule- and its reciprocal connections with the insula and hypothalamus. This is based on two lines of reasoning. First, bigender individuals in our survey sample reported an elevated rate of bipolar disorder, which has been linked to slowed hemispheric switching. We hypothesize that tracking the nasal cycle, rate of binocular rivalry, and other markers of hemispheric switching will reveal a physiological basis for AGI individuals' subjective reports of gender switches. Switching may also trigger hormonal cascades, which we are currently exploring. Second, we base our hypotheses on ancient and modern associations between the left and right hemispheres and the male and female genders. By providing a case of sharp brain-sex shifts within individuals, we believe that the study of AGI could prove illuminating to scientific understanding of gender, body representation, and the nature of self.

Have you ever been tested for this? Seems to fit the bill.

[nudemacusers]

Just FYI some of you are even behind the department of defense on this gender stuff. Something to chew on.

[BisMarckie]

I'm Marty, this thread is Shawn Michaels

[team filler]

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I'm Marty, this thread is Shawn Michaels

[nudemacusers]

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I'm Marty, this thread is Shawn Michaels

I’m not a virgin so I don’t know who these people are. Which is which?

[nachobro]

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Is Akeem biracial or culturally appropriating? Asking for a friend.

[BisMarckie]

I’m not a virgin so I don’t know who these people are. Which is which?

I was a virgin in 1992

[Nola]

There is no scientific proof of bigenderism. Show us the receipts.

 It’s severely under researched but here’s what I have:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22364652/

Alternating gender incongruity: a new neuropsychiatric syndrome providing insight into the dynamic plasticity of brain-sex.
Case LK, et al. Med Hypotheses. 2012.
Show full citation
Abstract
Between the two extreme ends of human sexuality - male and female - lie a poorly understood and poorly studied spectrum of ambiguously defined sexual identities that are very much a part of the human condition but defy rigid classification. "Bigender" is a recently formed sub-category of transgenderism, describing individuals who experience a blending or alternation of gender states. While recognized nominally by the APA, no scientific work to our knowledge has addressed this fascinating condition, or proposed any physiological basis for it. In addition, the alternation aspect has not been proposed as a nosological entity distinct from blending. We present descriptive data suggesting that many bigender individuals experience an involuntary switching of gender states without any amnesia for either state. In addition, similar to transsexual individuals, the majority of bigender individuals experience phantom breasts or genitalia corresponding to the non-biologic gender when they are in a trans-gender state. Finally, our survey found decreased lateralization of handedness in the bigender community. These observations suggest a biologic basis of bigenderism and lead us to propose a novel gender condition, "alternating gender incongruity" (AGI). We hypothesize that AGI may be related to an unusual degree or depth of hemispheric switching and corresponding callosal suppression of sex appropriate body maps in parietal cortex- possibly the superior parietal lobule- and its reciprocal connections with the insula and hypothalamus. This is based on two lines of reasoning. First, bigender individuals in our survey sample reported an elevated rate of bipolar disorder, which has been linked to slowed hemispheric switching. We hypothesize that tracking the nasal cycle, rate of binocular rivalry, and other markers of hemispheric switching will reveal a physiological basis for AGI individuals' subjective reports of gender switches. Switching may also trigger hormonal cascades, which we are currently exploring. Second, we base our hypotheses on ancient and modern associations between the left and right hemispheres and the male and female genders. By providing a case of sharp brain-sex shifts within individuals, we believe that the study of AGI could prove illuminating to scientific understanding of gender, body representation, and the nature of self.

Have you ever been tested for this? Seems to fit the bill.

Cute.

[shosta]

[bork]

anyone got any links to some bad era posting?

We brought the bad era posting here now.

You can ignore it with Bore Clear

Is that some kind of hemorrhoid medicine?

[shosta]

Yeah, Bore Clear is when filler pounds your hemorrhoids back in with his hog.

[Jenkem]

Guys, you can now win ONE FREE MONTH OF ERA CLEAR!!!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/reseteras-inaugural-giftbot-giveaway-free-stuff-all-week-long.29117/

That's awesome. I find the ads can really distract you away from the mod messages.

You can even stream shit on YouTube, how about a transgender counseling channel. I haven't seen those yet. $$$

..................

You fucking moron.

Jfc. If your response to someone who engaging in a non-obnoxious way with you is that inflammatory, it kind of explains your woes in the labour market.

Oh Go fuck yourself you piece of shit. You’ve done nothing but dehumanize and dismiss me and make an ass of yourself today, but if I said “you must have trouble making friends or keeping a job with that attitude” 20 people in here would laugh at me for assuming anyone acts irl exactly the way they do in here.

the reason why people dislike you and your ilk is because you are egotistical fucks who think the world should stop to address any problems or grievances you have. lots of people have had a shitty life, were bullied, were fucked over, etc. for a multitude of reasons, yet the vast majority of those go on with their lives to the best of their abilities and don't harbor a chip on their shoulder like an edgelord.

wow someone dehumanized you on a message board? oh fucking no

[agrajag]

I KNOW that I am both male and female. I do not hate my body  but I have frequent daily experiences of gender dysphoria.

...but the "bi" would imply simultaneously. What you are describing is not simultaneous.

No there are many bigender people  where is not simultaneous.  Or people where it is simultaneous but not all of the time and sometimes it’s one or the other.  For me it is simultaneous most of the time.  And even when it is simultaneous that doesn’t mean I don’t get dysphoria from half of my identity being out of body.  It’s just not as severe dysphoria as it would be if I was completely trans.

Wtf does it mean when it's simultaneous?  Do you feel like pounding a few beers with the boys at the monster truck show but at the same time you feel like mentruating?

[etiolate]

Still thinking the gender pay gap isn’t real in 2018 

How does the pay gap affect bigendered individuals?