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[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

But I’m saying this because just having a multiplatform engine doesn’t mean your game will not have problems in other console. Not singling out Fortnite, but talking in general.

I don’t entirely believe the devs that claim that porting for Switch is easy, given that time when someone described how nightmarish was porting a racing game to WiiU.

I mean I'm not saying that all they have to do is hit the "Export to Switch" button and call it a day. It would take some work to get it running properly, but if Nintendo wanted it on Switch, they could make it happen. Maybe they're saving the announcement for a surprise or something.

The online architecture for Switch is equivalent to PC since stuff like Rocket League does crossplay.

 

I don't get what's funny. All I'm saying is if developers want to put in the effort they can deliver an online experience similar to what is happening in PC/X1/PS4 games, besides Nintendo's stupid rules. Rocket League shows that you can do crossplay support on Switch. Switch and WiiU have plenty of games in all sorts of genres that have online play and work fine (WiiU even has an MMO with Dragon Quest 10).

There's even a team working on a 100 player battle royale game for Switch, PC, and Xbox 1 that has crossplay.
https://www.fig.co/campaigns/crazyjustice/about

The online architecture for Switch is equivalent to PC since stuff like Rocket League does crossplay.

"But Rocket League does it! Fortnite did it secretly with PSN/X-box Live until Sony told them to knock it off!"

That doesn't make them equivalent in the slightest. Because I mean to counter-point this: If that was the case, EVERYFUCKINGGAME would be cross-play in that case.

Holy shit, I'm still laughing at this five minutes later to the point of tears. I'm not even an Network Engineer and this is the dumbest thing I've read today.

Do you really think that the Swtich cannot run Fortnite? And yes, EVERYFUCKINGGAME has the potential to be crossplay if the developers want to implement it.

And I say all this as someone who plays Fortnite on a 4k PC and who's Switch has been collecting dust since Mario Odyssey, it'd be cool to have a portable version of it, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'm just confused why Nintendo isn't publicly making an effort to get the game ported to Switch since the system needs games desperately.

[Boredfrom]

I don’t think Nintendo isn’t willing to pay, but they probably are no willing to pay the price that Epic will ask.

[REDPILLALPH ABIGCOCK]

There's even a team working on a 100 player battle royale game for Switch, PC, and Xbox 1 that has crossplay.
https://www.fig.co/campaigns/crazyjustice/about

The combination of kickstarter and Tim Schaefer could never overpromise and underdeliver

[Raist]

Nintards

[Jansen]

But I’m saying this because just having a multiplatform engine doesn’t mean your game will not have problems in other console. Not singling out Fortnite, but talking in general.

I don’t entirely believe the devs that claim that porting for Switch is easy, given that time when someone described how nightmarish was porting a racing game to WiiU.

I mean I'm not saying that all they have to do is hit the "Export to Switch" button and call it a day. It would take some work to get it running properly, but if Nintendo wanted it on Switch, they could make it happen. Maybe they're saving the announcement for a surprise or something.

The online architecture for Switch is equivalent to PC since stuff like Rocket League does crossplay.

 

I don't get what's funny. All I'm saying is if developers want to put in the effort they can deliver an online experience similar to what is happening in PC/X1/PS4 games, besides Nintendo's stupid rules. Rocket League shows that you can do crossplay support on Switch. Switch and WiiU have plenty of games in all sorts of genres that have online play and work fine (WiiU even has an MMO with Dragon Quest 10).

There's even a team working on a 100 player battle royale game for Switch, PC, and Xbox 1 that has crossplay.
https://www.fig.co/campaigns/crazyjustice/about

The online architecture for Switch is equivalent to PC since stuff like Rocket League does crossplay.

"But Rocket League does it! Fortnite did it secretly with PSN/X-box Live until Sony told them to knock it off!"

That doesn't make them equivalent in the slightest. Because I mean to counter-point this: If that was the case, EVERYFUCKINGGAME would be cross-play in that case.

Holy shit, I'm still laughing at this five minutes later to the point of tears. I'm not even an Network Engineer and this is the dumbest thing I've read today.

Do you really think that the Swtich cannot run Fortnite? And yes, EVERYFUCKINGGAME has the potential to be crossplay if the developers want to implement it.

And I say all this as someone who plays Fortnite on a 4k PC and who's Switch has been collecting dust since Mario Odyssey, it'd be cool to have a portable version of it, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'm just confused why Nintendo isn't publicly making an effort to get the game ported to Switch since the system needs games desperately.

   

[Raist]

I never said it was a conspiracy, if yes quote me ! I said this is done on purpose. To what end ? I don’t know.

For EA it was said it could have been related to Origins initially being the online infrastructure for the Wii U, but Nintendo - supposedly - backtracked. And EA “kind of” punished Nintendo...

For Square Enix, I guess Sony striked some kind of deal with Square Enix for Dragon Quest XI outside Japan as “timed exclusive” ( that would explain the INEXPLICABLE no show of the 3DS version... ).

When it comes to your point on higher margin products, there is a fine line between trying to make margin and ripping off customers. Ultra Street Fighter 2 is a rip off ! If I was one of the owner, I would ask Capcom for a refund or an exchange with the Anniversary collection.

 

[Boredfrom]

I don’t think Nintendo isn’t willing to pay, but they probably are no willing to pay the price that Epic will ask.

lol, why in the world would Nintendo need to pay Epic to bring Fortnite to Switch?

Why in the world they pay for SNK Heroines?

[Nintex]

For EA it was said it could have been related to Origins initially being the online infrastructure for the Wii U, but Nintendo - supposedly - backtracked. And EA “kind of” punished Nintendo...

Origin planning on Wii U broke down but so did the final specs so even if EA wanted Crysis 3 on it, it wouldn't run. And Cervat Yerli saying that it would is just another one of his lies.

For Square Enix, I guess Sony striked some kind of deal with Square Enix for Dragon Quest XI outside Japan as “timed exclusive” ( that would explain the INEXPLICABLE no show of the 3DS version... ).

INEXPLICABLE?? Nintendo had Reggie parade Dragon Quest around at every interview until it turned sad. "Ho ho, playing Super Mario? I just love to play Dragon Quest on my Nintendo 3DS. I have put over 200 hours in this game fml"
The numbers don't lie, DQ on 3DS hardly sold anything. 3DS is now mainly for kiddo's 

When it comes to your point on higher margin products, there is a fine line between trying to make margin and ripping off customers. Ultra Street Fighter 2 is a rip off ! If I was one of the owner, I would ask Capcom for a refund or an exchange with the Anniversary collection.

Software planning is weird sometimes. For launch Street Fighter made sense and maybe the devs wanted it on the eShop but the marketing dudes from Cacpcom and Nintendo convinced everyone to put in on a cartridge so it wouldn't miss the launch.

User was banned for this post (duration pending) stating opinions as facts, console warring, racist, transphobic and sexist

[Boredfrom]

Why in the world they pay for SNK Heroines?

What makes you think they did?

Either way, Fortnite is on every other platform under the sun.. there'd be zero reason for Epic to ask for money to bring it to Switch and they'd have zero leverage.  Only exclusivity is paid for, and it's often not even a cash deal just a marketing deal these days (and timed.)

And there's zero reason for Epic to not do a Switch port; it's going to happen 100%.

https://www.usgamer.net/amp/nis-america-apologizes-for-saying-sony-isnt-friendly-to-small-publishers

Also lol, the Wii days says otherwise.

[Raist]

Fuck, I love bad Nintendo news. Always brings out the crazies

This was probably going to be the highest selling of all of the versions.

    Now, I'm not so sure.

[Nintex]

Nintendo would gladly pay money for Fortnite if:

- They get to publish it in Japan (Epic would say YES to this instantly)
- They get some marketing deal out of it (Fortnight pre-installed on a Switch in a bundle or something, Epic again would say YES instantly)

Even if Epic wanted a couple million for a Fortnite port Nintendo would fork-over the money. If there's interest on Epic's part it's probably already in development anyway.

The money one is super vague but it pretty much boils down to that outside of simply "software isn't done";  there's a million factors and none of them are "which console manufacturer should we punish!" 

Maybe some indie devs act like that but not the big pubs lol

There's a bigger chance Nintendo wanted it delayed because the Amiibo wasn't ready. But probably just some optimization issues with the port. 

[Boredfrom]

https://www.usgamer.net/amp/nis-america-apologizes-for-saying-sony-isnt-friendly-to-small-publishers

Also lol, the Wii days says otherwise.

Seriously.. what the fuck are you talking about? 

There's nothing in there about Nintendo paying anyone.

Yeah, the president of NISA just shitalked Sony about not having a physical version for lack of support and needed to apologize later on.

Rioutus, don’t go Etiolate on me.

[Raist]

I can't decide between:

- QA testers on Switch just got to blight town and realized it's a fucking powerpoint slideshow.

- Nintendo requested the delay cause otherwise they'll have nothing to show for making people pay for their trash online.

[Boredfrom]

Yeah, the president of NISA just shitalked Sony about not having a physical version for lack of support and needed to apologize later on.

Ummm.. ok?  What does that have to do with the fact it says literally nothing about Nintendo paying them?

You suddenly talking about paying in a literal way:

"We're starting to do more on Nintendo Switch. SNK Heroines is not the only one," Yamashita said at the time. "They support us in a good way. Compared to that, Sony is not friendly with small publishers like us. They just care about big Japanese companies. Also, if we simultaneously release a Switch version and a PS4 version of the same title, currently the sales trend is two to one."

[Nintex]

Yeah, the president of NISA just shitalked Sony about not having a physical version for lack of support and needed to apologize later on.

Ummm.. ok?  What does that have to do with the fact it says literally nothing about Nintendo paying them?

@Nintex:  Literally never heard of a console manufacturer paying for a port of a game that is already out on every platform.

Microsoft was known to fork over cash just for about anything.
Nintendo not so much but with the Switch they've struck some deals before.

There was also the rumor that Nintendo was willing to fund a port of MGS5 for Wii U if Konami made it. But KojiPro was already stretched too thin on resources.
Apparently Sakurai was involved in trying to convince Kojima to bring it over.

[Boredfrom]

Microsoft was known to fork over cash just for about anything.
Nintendo not so much but with the Switch they've struck some deals before.

There was also the rumor that Nintendo was willing to fund a port of MGS5 for Wii U if Konami made it. But KojiPro was already stretched too thin on resources.
Apparently Sakurai was involved in trying to convince Kojima to bring it over.

What are some examples that aren't rumors?

Stuff confirmed by the publishers or blatantly paid exclusives like DQIX and some MH games?

[Boredfrom]

Microsoft was known to fork over cash just for about anything.
Nintendo not so much but with the Switch they've struck some deals before.

There was also the rumor that Nintendo was willing to fund a port of MGS5 for Wii U if Konami made it. But KojiPro was already stretched too thin on resources.
Apparently Sakurai was involved in trying to convince Kojima to bring it over.

What are some examples that aren't rumors?

Stuff confirmed by the publishers or blatantly paid exclusives like DQIX and some MH games?

I'm not talking about exclusives you mental midget dumbfuck, stop replying to me.

 

[Jansen]

riotous sperging hard today

[stufte]

get out of routous' mentions, ya harassers.

[Jansen]

[Raist]

riotous sperging hard today

...today?

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/brad-bird-gives-tone-deaf-response-on-why-we-never-see-frozone’s-wife-in-the-incredibles.36865/

[stufte]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/brad-bird-gives-tone-deaf-response-on-why-we-never-see-frozone’s-wife-in-the-incredibles.36865/

OH NO! NOT....


 TONE DEAF

[Nintex]

What the flying fuck seriously.

https://twitter.com/LeslieMac/status/986347352331046912

 

[stufte]

What the flying fuck seriously.

https://twitter.com/LeslieMac/status/986347352331046912

 

I read that tweet in my head as a stereotypical sassy black woman. It WAS pretty funny, TBH.

[HaughtyFrank]

I don’t think Nintendo isn’t willing to pay, but they probably are no willing to pay the price that Epic will ask.

lol, why in the world would Nintendo need to pay Epic to bring Fortnite to Switch?

Why in the world they pay for SNK Heroines? the

Cause they know their audience 

[Optimus]

Microsoft was known to fork over cash just for about anything.
Nintendo not so much but with the Switch they've struck some deals before.

There was also the rumor that Nintendo was willing to fund a port of MGS5 for Wii U if Konami made it. But KojiPro was already stretched too thin on resources.
Apparently Sakurai was involved in trying to convince Kojima to bring it over.

What are some examples that aren't rumors?

Stuff confirmed by the publishers or blatantly paid exclusives like DQIX and some MH games?

I'm not talking about exclusives you mental midget dumbfuck, stop replying to me.

 

So you consciously chose to end the discussion right when it was getting good and there were clear signs of the beginning of a meltdown?  You're such a disappointment.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-2018-be-the-year-master-chief-makes-his-big-return-to-pc-gaming.36876/

hey at least it isn't a switch port beg thread

[Pepinappe]

Really don't care about the dumb ReeeNintards, but I hope Nintendo continues to slay.

PC + Nintendo combo = 

[Boredfrom]

Microsoft was known to fork over cash just for about anything.
Nintendo not so much but with the Switch they've struck some deals before.

There was also the rumor that Nintendo was willing to fund a port of MGS5 for Wii U if Konami made it. But KojiPro was already stretched too thin on resources.
Apparently Sakurai was involved in trying to convince Kojima to bring it over.

What are some examples that aren't rumors?

Stuff confirmed by the publishers or blatantly paid exclusives like DQIX and some MH games?

I'm not talking about exclusives you mental midget dumbfuck, stop replying to me.

 

So you consciously chose to end the discussion right when it was getting good and there were clear signs of the beginning of a meltdown?  You're such a disappointment.

Nah, I’m not you. You will be the first one to get mad and the claim a “win”.

[I'm a Puppy!]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/brad-bird-gives-tone-deaf-response-on-why-we-never-see-frozone’s-wife-in-the-incredibles.36865/

I never new that I grew up around so much problematic entertainment
- The neighbor in Home Improvement
- Charlie in Charlie's Angels
- The teacher in Charlie Brown
- The Nanny in Muppet Babies

It's amazing we haven't had another holocaust with all these people growing up with problematic programming
 

[daemon]

What the flying fuck seriously.

https://twitter.com/LeslieMac/status/986347352331046912

 

I read that tweet in my head as a stereotypical sassy black woman. It WAS pretty funny, TBH.

You're literally a KKK member now.


Frozone's wife is like Debbie Wolowitz (Howard's mom in TBBT), a voice that is funny based on the interaction, but a character that would be insufferable on-screen.

[thetylerrob]

Social media internet black people are just really bored today

[daemon]

Social media internet black people are just really bored today

Where are the n-word heroes when you need them

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/russian-elon-musk-raped-and-tortured-to-death-in-custody-say-experts.36894/


russian officials torture a dissident.

This story unfortunately has little discussion value beyond its shocking and gruesome content. We are closing the topic to further replies.


The fox is in the hen house, repeat, the fox is in the hen house.

[Finbarfin]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/russian-elon-musk-raped-and-tortured-to-death-in-custody-say-experts.36894/


russian officials torture a dissident.

This story unfortunately has little discussion value beyond its shocking and gruesome content. We are closing the topic to further replies.


The fox is in the hen house, repeat, the fox is in the hen house.

Isn't that an outright admission that they are fully aware that their users are too immature to discuss serious topics?

[Bore Expert]

Any of you still have Ree accounts or have you all been cut down in your prime by Sweetnicole? Is beseda still guiding the righteous from the shadows?

[Shuri]

What the flying fuck seriously.

https://twitter.com/LeslieMac/status/986347352331046912

 

all the problems and shit happening in the world right now, and you choose to focus on some character in a kid's cg movie from 10 years ago. Way to go, Leslie.

[benjipwns]

and why exactly is it okay to laugh at a black woman just because she's visible?

way to trivialize their struggle and deny their humanity by using their appearance solely as a mere vehicle for comedy, it's just another form of neo-blackface

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6889303/

Japan's xenophobia is what makes the place interesting. It's an isolated island country trying so hard to maintain its traditions and culture since before it became Sunrise Land. That concention of culture and tradition would be dilluted the more they let in, and they see it as a problem, we see it as xenophobia.

Cuz it is xenophobia you dumb shit

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6889385/

Leave Japan alone !!! 

[etiolate]

What I do know is that some black women want to be laughed at and some black women hunt ghosts and that ghosts can be invisible and certainly non-corporeal and some black women who hunt ghosts get possessed by ghosts but that doesn't make them invisible like a ghost but it is okay to laugh at them unless it's twitter and you're gay.

[benjipwns]

#683
People talking about entitlement are missing a big piece of the puzzle here. Most if not all of the publishers being criticized for shafting the system are publicly traded companies, which in some countries can face legal repercussions if they're not doing all they can to maximize profits. There's undeniably money being left on the table by not treating the Switch like a proper platform.

But they keep doing this because they know that the majority of their shareholders are clueless about the game industry, which is why most pubs have only given token support so far. It also helps that they have unpaid volunteers willing to chastise anyone who dares to call them out on their BS.

Ironically the biggest western supporter of the Switch (Bethesda) is a private company with no obligation at all to support it.

 

it makes sense that publicly traded corporation Nintendo would have more informed shareholders than the standard fly by night operation like Activision Blizzard, not that Nintendo's honorable leadership like Kimishima-san would ever treat their partners in business in such a way, I'm not making that accusation at all

spoiler (click to show/hide)

nobody mention that ownership of ZeniMax is mostly other corporations holding shares that they do in fact buy and sell because that would make this BIG piece more difficult to fit into the verafied puzzle

[close]

[daemon]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6889303/

Japan's xenophobia is what makes the place interesting. It's an isolated island country trying so hard to maintain its traditions and culture since before it became Sunrise Land. That concention of culture and tradition would be dilluted the more they let in, and they see it as a problem, we see it as xenophobia.

Cuz it is xenophobia you dumb shit

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6889385/

Leave Japan alone !!! 

That's a lie. Japan likes other cultures, they just don't want them overriding their own. It's quite different.

To preserve it they very carefully accept migrants. Which is what any country should do tbh.

[benjipwns]

I think the average Japanese person looks to Europe and sees things like terrorist attacks committed by ISIS and this kind of thing springs to mind when they are questioned about immigration and whatnot.

Yes...it is probably this and not something entrenched through centuries of Japanese culture.

[Momo]

China is super specific about getting residency also, like obnoxiously so. I applied to do a project in Vietnam and their policies are legit friendly for immigrants (the fucking humidity isnt though )

[benjipwns]

they weren't so friendly for 50,000 american temporary workers

bring home our POWs!

[Momo]

 

[kingv]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6889303/

Japan's xenophobia is what makes the place interesting. It's an isolated island country trying so hard to maintain its traditions and culture since before it became Sunrise Land. That concention of culture and tradition would be dilluted the more they let in, and they see it as a problem, we see it as xenophobia.

Cuz it is xenophobia you dumb shit

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6889385/

Leave Japan alone !!! 

That's a lie. Japan likes other cultures, they just don't want them overriding their own. It's quite different.

To preserve it they very carefully accept migrants. Which is what any country should do tbh.

By migrants, you mean otaku.

[curly]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6889303/

Japan's xenophobia is what makes the place interesting. It's an isolated island country trying so hard to maintain its traditions and culture since before it became Sunrise Land. That concention of culture and tradition would be dilluted the more they let in, and they see it as a problem, we see it as xenophobia.

Cuz it is xenophobia you dumb shit

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6889385/

Leave Japan alone !!! 

That's a lie. Japan likes other cultures, they just don't want them overriding their own. It's quite different.

To preserve it they very carefully accept migrants. Which is what any country should do tbh.

Glad to see the good work done by the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere finally get its due

[Transhuman]

I think Australia/Canada proves that multiculturalism won't destroy the moral fabric of your country.

[benjipwns]

can't destroy what doesn't exist in the first place

[Momo]

[warcock]

Yo i'm kind of curious how ntards landed here seeing how this place came to birth after drinky died for our sins and then pushed a massive boulder to unleash upon the world one console faggotry.

[etiolate]

I don't know where to put this, but god bless Norm.

https://twitter.com/normmacdonald/status/986478937646612480

No fucks.

[HaughtyFrank]

From the Incredibles thread

They should stop pretending that it's anything but this and go full Tom and Jerry.
(Image removed from quote.)

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6887137/

Can you guess the poster?

[Momo]

I just learned Jamie Lidell is white, I feel very lied to.

[Coax]

Their ad reporting thread certainly looks familiar...

Mcafee webadvisor is blocking tons of adds today, unsafe content.

I got a malware ad that completely shut down my computer from this site.

got several different phishing ads, ones trying to pass as my ISP, or some others pretending to be facebook. Fucking hell.

I can't even keep ResetERA open for a minute and it will redirect me to malicious websites, which aren't all being picked up by Kaspersky either. Literally was just typing a response to this thread and it redirected me to some sort of Crypto Mining extension for Firefox.

This used to happen a lot during the later NeoGAF months...

Not to worry though, RE is on the case...

Any new updates on this?

We've had fewer reports in the past few days

I think this is because there is no report button under ads now.

[Raist]

Wow wow wow, I didn't see this coming at all. What is going on!!1!1!!11!

[VomKriege]

Meanwhile, in Slum Town, USA, Internet...

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/is-evilore-a-4d-chess-master.1461999/post-253239911

Ah yes, the classic move whereupon you sacrifice your credibility in gaming media, and your formidably sized forum is devasted in activity and ad revenue by a dozenfold, solely so you can make people not want to come there so more conservative and "free" discussion can take place.

Everyone who understands strategy is in awe of Evilore, the master.

Nah, I was already in a pretty bad place when the whole thing happened, and the way it played out all around was overwhelming and very hurtful to experience. I wasn't very functional for a while there; I've remained loyal and committed to this place for going on two decades, and turned down a lot to keep it independent and intact only to end up seeing...that, play out so eagerly from within the community. I had a hard time coping with all that for a while, but that did give me a lot of time to evaluate and reflect on the entire sequence of events and why it ended up looking that bleak.

Seemed like the only reasonable path forward through that mess was to force some purpose to it all by taking every advantage offered by the circumstances to address whatever I could think to add to the list, then get in there and redo everything from the ground up and put it directly on track myself. It's still an ongoing process, but I think it's been able to serve a purpose now, and I'm glad that GAF can be a place I enjoy reading and participating in again going forward. Now just grab your friends (or enemies) and bring over here too so I can mash my F5 key properly. ;b

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/netflix-orders-‘the-order’-which-sounds-strangely-like-‘the-order-1886’-minus-the-1886.1462007/#post-253240147

The Order 1886 had such an original, unique premise !

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/former-gafer-wins-pulitzer.1462002/

Former GAFer wins Pulitzer

Also : Former Gaffers created somewhat successful splinter forum.

[warcock]

I dont want to discredit his accomplishment cause i know shit about farrow or what he writes. Sounds somewhat misleading to say gaffer wins pulitzer as if this relatively unknown poster rose to prominence... especially considering his circumstances.