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« Reply #16080 on: June 29, 2018, 12:36:23 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-white-supremacist-hosting-an-ama-on-reddit-read-op.52250/page-10#post-9844252

So, crazy thread got crazier. This guy is going abso-fucking-lutely mental. What I can’t fathom though, is that all that rage is predicated on the assumption that minorities are being forced to consider deradicalising white supremacists. They’re not though. Why can’t the white guy be showing other white guys how he’s helping white guys avoid the white guy pitfalls that he fell into as a white guy?

I just don’t understand this seething rage at something that isn’t actually being suggested as far as I can see. It’s not the job of minorities to do this shit, and I haven’t seen posts saying that it is. Why not just stay quiet and see if the white people talk amongst themselves and learn something if your only contribution otherwise is destructive and negative?

Only conflict matters, never a resolution.
Racist learns error of his ways and tries to reform other racists. Somehow this is enrages the BCT.
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« Reply #16081 on: June 29, 2018, 12:40:40 PM »
Looks like another alt-righter/gator/Nazi/Russian caught red handed

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So that we can't check your post history?

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« Reply #16082 on: June 29, 2018, 12:42:39 PM »
How is digitalop not banned

Mods help!!!
How is he not a mod

Only matter of time. But then excelsheet isn’t yet, and it’s not for a lack of free time. Who knows what escheresque madness is going on behind the scenes?

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« Reply #16083 on: June 29, 2018, 12:46:44 PM »
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Nice straw man there.
Bro, I said save me the response.

And you come back and give me a meaningless buzzword that isn't even used correctly. I gave you facts.

Probably because you lack a proper response but still have the need to say something.

Worst part about forum posting is all these damn buzzwords that people think mean something. Make arguments or don't respond.
:thinking

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« Reply #16084 on: June 29, 2018, 12:46:54 PM »
wait...
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I was recruited in 1987 when I was 14 years old and stayed in the movement for eight years, until I was 22 in 1996. .... In 1996, I decided to leave the vicious movement I helped create

and this is their mindset?
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It helps by sending a message to other white supremacists that that kind of behavior is unacceptable. It absolutely should be about punishment and justice in this instance.

You're caping for an irredeemable piece of shit and it's making you look bad. Yes, what he did is irredeemable.

 :rofl

This behavior cannot be redeemed by turning over a new leaf and forging a path forward to change things and it's systemically ubiquitous in the US -- therefore? ...what?

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« Reply #16085 on: June 29, 2018, 12:51:11 PM »
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Nice straw man there.
Bro, I said save me the response.

And you come back and give me a meaningless buzzword that isn't even used correctly. I gave you facts.

Probably because you lack a proper response but still have the need to say something.

Worst part about forum posting is all these damn buzzwords that people think mean something. Make arguments or don't respond.
:thinking

He's got a point. It's time they removed:

Toxic, problematic, gross, disingenuous, bad faith, gaslighting, ain't slick, and actioned

from their vocabularies

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« Reply #16086 on: June 29, 2018, 12:55:32 PM »
meanwhile, back in the Obama-era DHS run by Nazi's thread
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I think this thread should be locked honestly. Y'all keep saying no way. No one should be dealing in absolutes.

It could be an accident, but it also is not at all crazy to think "we must secure" + 14 words + plus an odd 88 statistic that any normal person would have just framed as the total percent granted asylum out of all reasonable fear applicants, not 13 out of 88 accepted applicants. It seems like an oddly cherry picked thing to throw in there even if it is an actual statistic DHS has collected.

But yeah, could be coincidence but all 3 elements there it isn't crazy to think it might not be.
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If this was indeed purposeful and not a coincidence then the implications range from unsettling to very scary.
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This isn't absurd numerology. Assuming it's intentionally there, it is literally the equivalent of doing a Hitler salute and shouting Sieg Heil. You're free to give this memo the benefit of the doubt of course, but the claim is reasonable.
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It's not documented atrocities.

It's documented usage of a specific combination if words and numbers, to send signals between neo Nazis.

Once AGAIN:
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/1488

https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/14-words


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Because of its widespread popularity, white supremacists reference this slogan constantly
This is what you are calling a conspiracy theory. It is not.

This shit was written fucking years ago. This was a textbook 1488 drop. Whether intentional or not, it meets the very specific criteria. This aint obscure like a simple 14, or 88.

It's the beginning of the white supremacy oath in a 14 word statement, with an 88.

The 'Twitter drama' is fucking irrelevant. Pointing this out isnt what suddenly make 1488 a thing.

This MIGHT be a coincidence, it is cosmically unlikely statistically. But that doesn't change the fact it is a textbook 1488 drop.
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I'm actually willing to buy not only that it's a use of 14 words but that it's also a use of 1488.

Yeah, it's stupid tin foil hat conspiracy nut bullshit, but we've got tin foil hat conspiracy nuts in the White House. This sort of overly pedantic number crap is all over the place in alt-right and incel circles.
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hmm, i gotta say i'm on the side that thinks this isn't a coincidence. some nazi sympathiser/idiot troll wrote that.

nazis do like communicating in cryptic ways.. just recently i saw someone had written "rahowa" on an elevator door in the hospital i work at.
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This is a long string of specific coincidences, with the odds of it being a coincidence getting exponentially smaller until you arrive at a full 1488.

Any other administration would be horrified by this if it was a coincidence, and would make a statement shutting it down, stating their was absolutely no link between the nazi symbology accidentally used, and the poorly vetted wording, and condemning nazis.

Except this administration. For some reason it has a lot of trouble with the whole admitting Nazis are bad thing.

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« Reply #16087 on: June 29, 2018, 12:59:37 PM »
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Why do you say he's no longer a threat though? That's giving a Nazi the benefit of the doubt, and you understand that is a harmful thing to do right? Would you say that about someone who killed one of your family members? Would you say that about a serial killer or molester?
well, first, do they make some media i enjoy?

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« Reply #16088 on: June 29, 2018, 12:59:42 PM »

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« Reply #16089 on: June 29, 2018, 01:02:03 PM »
Keeping him in prison accomplishes a lifetime of guilt too. We don't need to suffer nazis walking among us so they can have a chance to do the right thing and maybe not even take it or maybe revert back to what they were doing and they are perfectly capable of feeling guilt away from the population.
who knew the statute of limitations was so controversial

and life in prison too!

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« Reply #16090 on: June 29, 2018, 01:03:42 PM »
Digital OP must have just learned “bitchmade” cuz he can’t stop using it.
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« Reply #16091 on: June 29, 2018, 01:04:08 PM »
HERE WE COME FAM
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wait...

20,000-19,912 = 88

 :gddr5

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« Reply #16092 on: June 29, 2018, 01:06:13 PM »
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Funny how they talk about "don't get violent with people you disagree with," yet that's LITERALLY how this country they idealize so fucking much got founded.

Did the American colonists show compassion and understanding towards the British? How come it's okay to get violent against people because you don't like the way they're taxing you, but if someone wants you and everyone who looks like you exterminated because of the color of your skin, you must remain "civil" and "peacefully protest?" Why do the history books treat George Washington like a hero?
well, i suppose that's one way to interpret history

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« Reply #16093 on: June 29, 2018, 01:07:00 PM »
Technically aren't we all bitchmade

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« Reply #16094 on: June 29, 2018, 01:09:46 PM »
Technically aren't we all bitchmade

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« Reply #16095 on: June 29, 2018, 01:09:49 PM »
It's a no avatar conspiracy!!!

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And more and more from no-avatar users, judging by recent threads.

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« Reply #16096 on: June 29, 2018, 01:10:33 PM »
Technically aren't we all bitchmade

Say that to my face bitch

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« Reply #16097 on: June 29, 2018, 01:14:14 PM »
Why do you think Neo-Nazis should get a parade marrec?

I am sick and tired of your pro Nazi agenda on the Bore to be honest.

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« Reply #16098 on: June 29, 2018, 01:15:36 PM »
Imagine if the thread was about an ex gang member trying to teach kids to stay out of them.
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« Reply #16099 on: June 29, 2018, 01:20:20 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-explodes-after-homeland-security-headline-appears-to-mimic-%E2%80%9914-words%E2%80%99-neo-nazi-slogan.52213/


Maybe there is nothing special about the bugfuck insanity of these people in this thread, because they're like this every thread, but Jesus Haploid Christ.

These nutjobs belong in an asylum.  Is that what ERA is, are they all just locked up?  I'd feel so much better that way.

It's quite amazing to watch them go insane in real time.

The way people act in that thread is truly 1:1 like the conspiracy shit you see on the_donald (okay, perhaps with less racism sprinkled in) where everyone who doesn't see it is an ignorant sheep or an enemy of the cause

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« Reply #16100 on: June 29, 2018, 01:20:29 PM »
Why do you think Neo-Nazis should get a parade marrec?

I am sick and tired of your pro Nazi agenda on the Bore to be honest.
we really should have seen this coming after he wrote that book about a "final solution" for the trans community

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« Reply #16101 on: June 29, 2018, 01:25:44 PM »
Fans of the Mavs never are.

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« Reply #16102 on: June 29, 2018, 01:26:31 PM »
Technically aren't we all bitchmade

What the fuck did you just call my tube?

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« Reply #16103 on: June 29, 2018, 01:27:15 PM »
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How is he paying for his crimes?
I didn't read the AMA, just what was quoted, but did the guy even admit to any crimes beyond something like standard teen gang activity from 25+ years ago?

I kinda really want to know why they think there should be some statute of limitations AND sentencing limitation waiver because his gang was a white supremacist/neo-Nazi one.

Obviously I'm not saying that he should have gotten away with any crimes back then, just that wait, why am I explaining this to you guys of all people, as we here all agree he shouldn't ever be punished because he's a white male, sorry for a moment thought I was somewhere where we had to dog whistle to each other.

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« Reply #16104 on: June 29, 2018, 01:28:29 PM »
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I think I made my point quite well and am proud of my post
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« Reply #16105 on: June 29, 2018, 01:28:45 PM »
There is not a wide variety of patterns.

That is not how this works, because this is a real fucking thing, and not a made up chanshit conspiracy.  You can't just have a 14 word title.

You can't just have an 88.

You can't just have we must secure.

But if you have a 14 word statement, starting with we must secure, AND a fucking 88.

Yeah, you have a blatant documented hate symbol drop, intentionally done or not. It's a textbook 1488.

Mentally.  fucking.  deranged.

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« Reply #16106 on: June 29, 2018, 01:31:08 PM »
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We can't just report them to someone and get them locked away so we have to either change their minds or render them politically and socially impotent somehow if we're going to do any good.
I would like to be able to report them and have them locked away
For being a skinhead as a teenager 30 years ago. I mean...

It's not like the dude is a Kobe fan. (Is he?)

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« Reply #16107 on: June 29, 2018, 01:33:24 PM »
Reporting users to have them locked up: Coming to ERAClear this summer!

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« Reply #16108 on: June 29, 2018, 01:37:19 PM »
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We can't just report them to someone and get them locked away so we have to either change their minds or render them politically and socially impotent somehow if we're going to do any good.
I would like to be able to report them and have them locked away
For being a skinhead as a teenager 30 years ago. I mean...

It's not like the dude is a Kobe fan. (Is he?)

Not to sound like an alt-right bore nazi, but would they say the same for a 14 y/o islamic extremist who later changed their ways?

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« Reply #16109 on: June 29, 2018, 01:39:16 PM »
ask them yourself. i'm sure that won't lead to a swift ban

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« Reply #16110 on: June 29, 2018, 01:40:57 PM »
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No I haven't cut ties with those people. So I don't call myself an ally or any shit like that. Honestly any white person who calls themselves an ally without blowing shit up in their personal life over this doesn't understand anything.

Sometimes I feel like its better if we step aside, let minorities take the lead on this and work on our next generation of whites.

Next generation of whites, isn't that what Hitler wanted?  :huh

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« Reply #16111 on: June 29, 2018, 01:42:00 PM »
marrec's already having himself a swift ban
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« Reply #16112 on: June 29, 2018, 01:43:01 PM »
Not to sound like an alt-right bore nazi, but would they say the same for a 14 y/o islamic extremist who later changed their ways?
throwing fundamentalist or casual Christians in prison is better than them ever coming around to accept their LGBT children imo

but i've never attended any kind of religious services outside of weddings so i'm probably ignorant

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« Reply #16113 on: June 29, 2018, 01:43:32 PM »
Quote from: Commander Quackers, post: 9848479, member: 4410
Changing Nazi's minds is a moderates job
https://i.imgur.com/EqgvG8n.gif
I'm more interested in putting them back in to hole where they belong

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« Reply #16114 on: June 29, 2018, 01:45:21 PM »
Quote from: Mars, post: 9848417, member: 869
Fucking right. And props to DigitalOp, light 'em up!

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« Reply #16115 on: June 29, 2018, 01:48:39 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/thanos-vs-strange-infinity-war-greatest-shit-ever.52256/
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« Reply #16116 on: June 29, 2018, 01:54:06 PM »
I'd really like to know how many of those people had ever heard of " a 1488" before yesterday, and if they had, how the fuck did they hear about it unless they were visiting neo nazi sites constantly?

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1007693236591349760
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« Reply #16117 on: June 29, 2018, 01:55:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ivy-league-anti-sexual-violence-activist-charged-with-child-sex-crimes.52364/#post-9848880

"What a scumbag wonder what tipped off the FBI but seriously does anyone know should I be using a different browser or something"

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« Reply #16118 on: June 29, 2018, 01:59:57 PM »
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Over the course of several weeks between May and late June, prosecutors say, Davis exchanged text messages with undercover FBI agents, trying to arrange meetings with a 9-year-old girl, an 8-year-old girl and a 2-year-old boy.
so they weren't even legitimate children, another railroad job by the Trump administration against an ally! :hmph

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« Reply #16119 on: June 29, 2018, 02:02:40 PM »
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So do these scum just get contacts from the dark web and order off a menu or something? If you're not molesting someone you know how the fuck are you requesting a 2 year old?

I know pedophiles are sick/mentally ill but this is too heinous for my sympathy.
:thinking

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« Reply #16120 on: June 29, 2018, 02:03:37 PM »
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How is he paying for his crimes?
I didn't read the AMA, just what was quoted, but did the guy even admit to any crimes beyond something like standard teen gang activity from 25+ years ago?

I kinda really want to know why they think there should be some statute of limitations AND sentencing limitation waiver because his gang was a white supremacist/neo-Nazi one.

Obviously I'm not saying that he should have gotten away with any crimes back then, just that wait, why am I explaining this to you guys of all people, as we here all agree he shouldn't ever be punished because he's a white male, sorry for a moment thought I was somewhere where we had to dog whistle to each other.

He says in his intro he took part in one of the most violent cells in the movement and eventually oversaw cells that carried out violence. He claims in the AMA to have confessed to his crimes in his book and tried to reach out and seek forgiveness or make whatever amends he can from everyone he wronged that he could find.

It’s a fascinating read actually and I wish Resetera could actually put together a conversation that doesn’t dissolve into the half dozen or so people trying to drown out any discussion that doesn’t exclusively advocate life sentences for Nazis. Especially since he does actually give some pretty interesting insight into the ways these movements recruit and prey, and the way they see and interpret the Trump administration.


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« Reply #16121 on: June 29, 2018, 02:07:40 PM »
Anything past hysterical hot takes is out of their depth.

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« Reply #16122 on: June 29, 2018, 02:13:47 PM »
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Over the course of several weeks between May and late June, prosecutors say, Davis exchanged text messages with undercover FBI agents, trying to arrange meetings with a 9-year-old girl, an 8-year-old girl and a 2-year-old boy.
so they weren't even legitimate children, another railroad job by the Trump administration against an ally! :hmph

I'd like to imagine that one of the FBI agents pretended to be the 2 year old.

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« Reply #16123 on: June 29, 2018, 02:14:05 PM »
So tone policing is the new hot buzzword? So weird how trends like that pop up on ree after 1 popular thread about it.

Jansen

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« Reply #16124 on: June 29, 2018, 02:14:41 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/9849725/

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They can escape and then shut the fuck up.  They should be afraid to admit what they did and were.

Natives were already exterminated once.  Want to exterminate us again, at any time in your life?  Fuck off.

Unhinged doesn't even begin to describe this

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« Reply #16125 on: June 29, 2018, 02:20:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/9849725/

Quote from: Skelepuzzle, post: 9849725, member: 42285
They can escape and then shut the fuck up.  They should be afraid to admit what they did and were.

Natives were already exterminated once.  Want to exterminate us again, at any time in your life?  Fuck off.

Unhinged doesn't even begin to describe this

I mean, that poster is free to believe what they want, but ya it's a little crazy to think they have no sympathy to give to young people brainwashed into an ideological cult.

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« Reply #16126 on: June 29, 2018, 02:25:45 PM »
And honestly, reading most of his responses, besides disagreeing on the notion that indefinite retributive justice is the only solution to a Nazi, he probably would be indecipherable from an average Resetera/liberal poster(the ones not soapboxing and turning the dial up to 11 in every thread for attention) on any left leaning community.

He does seem to have a little Benji in him though:

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What is your take on groups that dox people at supremacist rallies and notify their employer to get them fired?

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Mixed feelings. It doesn't help change their minds or bring them any closer to humanity. On the other hand, I do believe people need to be held accountable for being complicit in terror

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« Reply #16127 on: June 29, 2018, 02:28:47 PM »
There is not a wide variety of patterns.

That is not how this works, because this is a real fucking thing, and not a made up chanshit conspiracy.  You can't just have a 14 word title.

You can't just have an 88.

You can't just have we must secure.

But if you have a 14 word statement, starting with we must secure, AND a fucking 88.

Yeah, you have a blatant documented hate symbol drop, intentionally done or not. It's a textbook 1488.

Mentally.  fucking.  deranged.

Wait... the username is '4859'. What is the numerological significance of this number?

As far as I can tell '48' is a reference to Article 48 of the Weimar Republic.

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Article 48 of the constitution of the Weimar Republic of Germany (1919–1933) allowed the President, under certain circumstances, to take emergency measures without the prior consent of the Reichstag. This power was understood to include the promulgation of "emergency decrees (Notverordnungen)".[1]

It may seem innocuous enough. However Hitler used Article 48 as way of curtailing people's constitutional rights.
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On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler was named Chancellor of Germany. Lacking a majority in the Reichstag, Hitler formed a coalition with the Nationalists (German National People's Party (German: Deutschnationale Volkspartei, DNVP)). Not long afterwards, he called elections for 5 March. Six days before the election, on 27 February, the Reichstag fire damaged the house of Parliament in Berlin. Claiming that the fire was the first step in a Communist revolution, the Nazis used the fire as a pretext to get the President, Hindenburg, to sign the Reichstag Fire Decree, officially the Verordnung des Reichspräsidenten zum Schutz von Volk und Staat (Presidential Decree for the Protection of People and State).

Under the decree, issued by Hindenburg on the basis of Article 48, the government was given authority to curtail constitutional rights including habeas corpus, free expression of opinion, freedom of the press, rights of assembly, and the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications. Constitutional restrictions on searches and confiscation of property were likewise suspended.

And what's this?

5 + 9 = 14.

A reference to the 14 words? It is as clear as day. This guy is only pretending to be against the Nazi takeover of the US. He has infiltrated RE and is planning to destroy the community from within.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2018, 02:33:12 PM by Leadbelly »

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« Reply #16128 on: June 29, 2018, 02:29:36 PM »
He specifically said he is not left-leaning, as if the notion offended him

 :bolo

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« Reply #16129 on: June 29, 2018, 02:30:43 PM »
He says in his intro he took part in one of the most violent cells in the movement and eventually oversaw cells that carried out violence.
Yeah, I guess my point included how that doesn't imply very much without the details, much like the modern KKK and Black Panthers who are boogeymen more than legitimate threats, let alone the common gangs. Yeah, there's assaults, murders, etc. But many of these are so small, so localized and often internal beefs between the gangs, etc.

But then I've read a lot about these truly radical groups and always kinda laugh at how blown up as a threat they often become in the media, especially long down the road or especially when they're charged. This is from the SPLC's article on him, describing this MERGER OF THE MOST VIOLENT GROUPS he performed:
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At 16, with Martell locked up in prison for at least the second time, Picciolini became the leader of the gang. He eventually merged CASH with the notoriously violent Hammerskins after a drunken organizing meeting just outside Chicago that was held in a small shabby apartment crammed with as many as 30 skinheads from Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas and Illinois. “Nazi flags draped the walls,” he writes. “Armbands with swastika insignias were plentiful. Some tough-looking skinhead girls hung onto the arms of some of the bigger guys, making it easy to see who the important players were.”

Arno Michaelis, a neo-Nazi skinhead from Milwaukee, was at the meeting and was impressed by Picciolini. “Christian was ridiculously good-looking back then,” says Michaelis, who is now a dedicated anti-racist and peace advocate. “He was very outspoken and articulate. When we met kids like that, we’d say this guy is going to be a great leader.”
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When he first started recruiting for CASH, there were likely fewer than 200 racist skinheads in the U.S. By 1989, when he was convicted of home invasion, aggravated battery and robbery and sentenced to 11 years in prison, there were more than 3,000.
It sounds like a lot until you think about it for half a second.

To clarify, not saying these groups can't be serious problems, can't perform terrible crimes. But they're generally localized threats of "common" crime, not about to take over the DHS to issue a coded press release, let alone lead a wave of mass violence against entire classes of people. Arresting them under normal process, even if that might need to be stepped up or reformed or their associates cleaned out (much like any gangs really), destroys the bulk of their real power.

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« Reply #16130 on: June 29, 2018, 02:39:58 PM »
He specifically said he is not left-leaning, as if the notion offended him

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Yeah I saw that lol, I get the sense reading his responses and having read/heard some pieces/podcasts with the guy that he’s one of those like a few of my friends that have been turned off by Trump and Republicans over the last couple of years, they claim they are still conservatives or not liberals, but basically they come down on the left on every issue these days and aren’t going to vote for a Republican.


https://twitter.com/cpicciolini/status/1012441467825020929

Sounds like a guy that would fit right at home on a left leaning board.

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« Reply #16131 on: June 29, 2018, 02:40:30 PM »
Is Mr. Roboto a racist song?

Someone make a thread
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« Reply #16132 on: June 29, 2018, 02:44:10 PM »
Nola, all you did was prove that not only is this guy an ex( :teehee) Neo-Nazi, but also a RINO/moderate, I don't know which is worse.

Feed him to the wolves!

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« Reply #16133 on: June 29, 2018, 02:46:38 PM »
stupid fucking gullible lefties

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« Reply #16134 on: June 29, 2018, 02:49:31 PM »
stupid fucking gullible lefties

Oh wait that reminds me:

I don't think blowjobs are the key to a happy marriage, I just thought that maybe blowies were an important part of a gay mans sex life.

I have since realized that this notion is inherently prejudiced however, I guess it's no different than any heterosexual relationship I dunno I've never asked the details tbh

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« Reply #16135 on: June 29, 2018, 02:51:40 PM »
stupid fucking gullible lefties

Oh wait that reminds me:

I don't think blowjobs are the key to a happy marriage, I just thought that maybe blowies were an important part of a gay mans sex life.

I have since realized that this notion is inherently prejudiced however, I guess it's no different than any heterosexual relationship I dunno I've never asked the details tbh

wow what a homophobe, just because they both have dicks doesn't mean they want to suck each other, you chauvenist misandrist.

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« Reply #16136 on: June 29, 2018, 02:55:30 PM »
stupid fucking gullible lefties

Oh wait that reminds me:

I don't think blowjobs are the key to a happy marriage, I just thought that maybe blowies were an important part of a gay mans sex life.

I have since realized that this notion is inherently prejudiced however, I guess it's no different than any heterosexual relationship I dunno I've never asked the details tbh

wow what a homophobe, just because they both have dicks doesn't mean they want to suck each other, you chauvenist misandrist.

I'd suck my girlfriends dick if she had one

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« Reply #16137 on: June 29, 2018, 02:56:15 PM »
stupid fucking gullible lefties

Oh wait that reminds me:

I don't think blowjobs are the key to a happy marriage, I just thought that maybe blowies were an important part of a gay mans sex life.

I have since realized that this notion is inherently prejudiced however, I guess it's no different than any heterosexual relationship I dunno I've never asked the details tbh

wow what a homophobe, just because they both have dicks doesn't mean they want to suck each other, you chauvenist misandrist.

I'd suck my girlfriends dick if she had one

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« Reply #16139 on: June 29, 2018, 02:59:10 PM »
stupid fucking gullible lefties

Oh wait that reminds me:

I don't think blowjobs are the key to a happy marriage, I just thought that maybe blowies were an important part of a gay mans sex life.

I have since realized that this notion is inherently prejudiced however, I guess it's no different than any heterosexual relationship I dunno I've never asked the details tbh

wow what a homophobe, just because they both have dicks doesn't mean they want to suck each other, you chauvenist misandrist.

I'd suck my girlfriends dick if she had one

"girlfriend"

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