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PogiJones

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« Reply #19200 on: July 11, 2018, 06:41:11 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine. But because there was a mob (not Gamergate before the firing, mind you, but a mob nonetheless), the company couldn't really afford to not fire her. But that mob didn't need to form. The attacked dude could have reported it to the company as an individual complaint, and the company could have handled it in a proportional way. But because thousands of people got offended on his behalf, firing her was the only reasonable solution.

Stop forming mobs, people. If someone wrongs someone else, let the wronged handle it. You don't need to rally behind that person like you were all attacked. Only that guy was.
Ultimately the problem was that many of the usual suspects began propping up the erroneous argument that she was the one who was first attacked and wronged.  Factual reality has no place for these kinds of people, and it does a disservice to the causes they always claim to champion.
Yeah, and her retweeting his message to broadcast to her numerous followers how sexist he was probably didn't help keep a mob from forming. I mean, no doubt that nearly the entire situation was her own orchestration. Even still, I will almost always discourage mobs from forming and calling for someone's job, even when I agree with the mob. It's like vigilante justice: even if it would occasionally be helpful, it's so prone to abuse and misuse that it's a concept that needs to be rejected outright. Same thing with mobs: while they occasionally will reach a "correct" outcome, when they miss, they miss hard, and people get hurt. So mob justice should almost always be rejected.

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« Reply #19201 on: July 11, 2018, 06:59:36 AM »
The problem with anonymous mobs/internet groups like GG is that at a certain point any group activity that looks like something that group would do is going to be attributed to that group

"Gamergate did this," because Gamergate did superficially similar things in the past, and if you were to examine everyone who took part and discovered that few if any had a history or harbored misogynistic thoughts and tweets, then you'd hear how they were sleeper agents or created that account just to take part in this attack or other nonsense

Even if no one was Gamergate, the fact that some of the rhetoric might seem similar and that the outcome was the same means that no actually everything was Gamergate
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« Reply #19202 on: July 11, 2018, 07:03:03 AM »
For the record that piece of shit was celebrating TB's death

this was my favourite:

https://twitter.com/leighalexander/status/1000019145314979840

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« Reply #19203 on: July 11, 2018, 07:07:20 AM »
Jesus Christ, Leigh Alexander is a despicable cunt.

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« Reply #19204 on: July 11, 2018, 07:10:58 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine. But because there was a mob (not Gamergate before the firing, mind you, but a mob nonetheless), the company couldn't really afford to not fire her. But that mob didn't need to form. The attacked dude could have reported it to the company as an individual complaint, and the company could have handled it in a proportional way. But because thousands of people got offended on his behalf, firing her was the only reasonable solution.

Stop forming mobs, people. If someone wrongs someone else, let the wronged handle it. You don't need to rally behind that person like you were all attacked. Only that guy was.
I feel that if she had agreed to publicly apologize she should have been able to keep her job. I doubt she would have been willing though, because her victim complex seems too strong and she doesn't strike me as capable of seeing that she was in the wrong.
Maybe. Her account suggests she was just fired, though, and not offered any form of apology ultimatum. That also seems like the most prudent move for the company once the mob has formed. It would have been too costly to keep her on at that point.

Either way, my point is that she screwed up, and the attacked party should have filed an individual complaint and allowed the company to handle the behavior without the pressure of a mob breathing down their necks. She was a jerk, and may have ended up getting fired even without the mob, but I'm almost always going to oppose a mob calling for someone to get fired for a screw-up. The only exception would be something like a Harvey Weinstein situation, and even then, I think a whole lot of evidence needs to come to light before public backlash costs someone their job.

If there was neither party would gain anything from making it public.

But yeah, mobs are dumb. I can't recall any specific time i've called for someone to get fired over some dumb shit they said. In fact, my second or third post on NeoGaf was defending Phil Fish after he said that Japanese games are starting to get sucky, and everyone was calling him a racist.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/jeremy-parish-where-do-gamers-draw-the-line-between-creators-and-creations.470087/page-2#post-36928896

..to which bish instantly jumped down my throat and implied that Fish wasn't "renown" enough to have an opinion.

That was my first experience on the forum. I didn't post much on gaming side after that.

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« Reply #19205 on: July 11, 2018, 07:14:39 AM »
Phil Fish's face always looks so punchable to me, I can't help but hate the guy regardless of whatever it is he says.

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« Reply #19206 on: July 11, 2018, 07:18:43 AM »
Unlike Bobby, who has a face that makes you want to listen to what he has to say.

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« Reply #19207 on: July 11, 2018, 07:19:25 AM »
Jesus Christ, Leigh Alexander is a despicable cunt.


Honestly I feel vindicated, mostly to myself. I often exaggerate against people I heavily dislike and there's always some doubt in my mind about the things I assume about them. Their absolutely disgusting response to TB's death and the silence from the rest of these scumbags for the terrible things that were said confirms even the worst suspicions I had about them. They're all human trash. They're still posting articles smearing TB btw, I just read a new one today.

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« Reply #19208 on: July 11, 2018, 07:19:51 AM »
The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine.

In fairness she doesnt exactly seem like the type to amend her behaviour. This is not the first job she's been fired from for this either

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« Reply #19209 on: July 11, 2018, 07:26:56 AM »
For the record that piece of shit was celebrating TB's death

this was my favourite:

https://twitter.com/leighalexander/status/1000019145314979840

Wow, TBs death really made people show their asses.

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« Reply #19210 on: July 11, 2018, 07:42:27 AM »
what the fuck is happening in here
 :crazy

I removed that shit.  Not interested in coming in here to see fucking fart porn, JFC guys.  :lol
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« Reply #19211 on: July 11, 2018, 07:44:28 AM »


I removed that shit.  Not interested in coming in here to see fucking fart porn, JFC guys.  :lol

You fucking fascist
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« Reply #19212 on: July 11, 2018, 07:45:15 AM »
Makes perfect sense that Anita would worm herself into the conversation once the reees and their ilk on twitter were screeching that there was gamergate involvement, after all she's the yin to the gamergate yang of attempting to steal an unrelated spotlight with little-to-no connection and make it all about themselves.

Aw, look at Anita attempting to stay relevant and failing.  :-[
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« Reply #19213 on: July 11, 2018, 07:49:16 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine.

Maybe she had been reprimanded already for other things?  We have no idea and ArenaNet doesn't need to disclose that kind of information.  This lady made a stupid ass response to someone trying to legitimately talk to her and got canned for it, which is within the company's rights to do.  Boo-fucking-hoo.
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« Reply #19214 on: July 11, 2018, 07:51:06 AM »
what the fuck is happening in here
 :crazy

I removed that shit.  Not interested in coming in here to see fucking fart porn, JFC guys.  :lol
bork :bow :bow

Propagandhim

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« Reply #19215 on: July 11, 2018, 07:54:28 AM »
Maybe she was just extraneous to the development team and they found someone else.  Writing for Guild Wars can't be that hard.  Ohhhhhh thou art the king and shit and i haveth a sword of a thousand moons and the cold wind shall blow haha what a bunch of fuckin easy ass bullshit kno what im talm bout

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« Reply #19216 on: July 11, 2018, 08:02:31 AM »
Reaction videos are serious business  :lol

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"Etika fakes reactions! Phoney!"
He purposefully bought and wears a heart rate monitor on stream to disprove this, his heart rate skyrockets whenever he does these reactions. He set it up live on stream.
"Yeah but still tho."
... C'mon.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10254594/

PogiJones

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« Reply #19217 on: July 11, 2018, 08:05:30 AM »

If there was neither party would gain anything from making it public.

But yeah, mobs are dumb. I can't recall any specific time i've called for someone to get fired over some dumb shit they said. In fact, my second or third post on NeoGaf was defending Phil Fish after he said that Japanese games are starting to get sucky, and everyone was calling him a racist.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/jeremy-parish-where-do-gamers-draw-the-line-between-creators-and-creations.470087/page-2#post-36928896

..to which bish instantly jumped down my throat and implied that Fish wasn't "renown" enough to have an opinion.

That was my first experience on the forum. I didn't post much on gaming side after that.
Yeah, it's tough to defend people you dislike, just to support a principle. I was actually going to bat for Lime of all people in PM's back when they were stripped of thread posting privileges with no warning. As much as I liked the idea of Lime not posting any more threads, I thought the staff was going about it the wrong way, and criticized them for it. Didn't change anything, of course. And this ArenaNet situation is another example. My gut instinct when reading what she said and that she was fired is "Good!" But then I realize that it's an instance of mob justice, and I have to push back against it.
The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine.

In fairness she doesnt exactly seem like the type to amend her behaviour. This is not the first job she's been fired from for this either
You're probably right. And I wouldn't/don't have any problem with her being fired. I just don't like the mob being part of the equation. What I want on her supervisor's desk is "We have a complaint from a customer; this is what she said." Instead, on their desk was, "We have a complaint, this is what she said, and there are 3,000 customers who are all calling for her to be fired, threatening to stop supporting us if we don't."

People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine.

Maybe she had been reprimanded already for other things?  We have no idea and ArenaNet doesn't need to disclose that kind of information.  This lady made a stupid ass response to someone trying to legitimately talk to her and got canned for it, which is within the company's rights to do.  Boo-fucking-hoo.
You missed my point entirely, which I explained in all my other posts. I'm not criticizing ArenaNet; I even said that after the mob formed, they really didn't have any other reasonable response. Yeah, maybe a reprimand would have been enough, and maybe not. Maybe they would have fired her without the mob. But I don't want a mob to decide it. I want the company to be able to handle it without the threat of a mob influencing how they assess the situation. It should just be her supervisor assessing her behavior. And if that results in a firing, that's fine. She was a total jerk to the customer.

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« Reply #19218 on: July 11, 2018, 08:07:18 AM »
I like that people are comparing Howard Stern to video game streamers, as if what they do are the same thing. 
:reeeee
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« Reply #19219 on: July 11, 2018, 08:08:32 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine.

Maybe she had been reprimanded already for other things?  We have no idea and ArenaNet doesn't need to disclose that kind of information.  This lady made a stupid ass response to someone trying to legitimately talk to her and got canned for it, which is within the company's rights to do.  Boo-fucking-hoo.
You missed my point entirely, which I explained in all my other posts. I'm not criticizing ArenaNet; I even said that after the mob formed, they really didn't have any other reasonable response. Yeah, maybe a reprimand would have been enough, and maybe not. Maybe they would have fired her without the mob. But I don't want a mob to decide it. I want the company to be able to handle it without the threat of a mob influencing how they assess the situation. It should just be her supervisor assessing her behavior. And if that results in a firing, that's fine. She was a total jerk to the customer.

That's because I didn't read your other posts.
:rollsafe

Too busy clearing out fart videos.

Anyway, I doubt the so-called "mob" had anything to do with it apart from it getting more attention. 
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PogiJones

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« Reply #19220 on: July 11, 2018, 08:10:33 AM »
A noble duty, for sure.

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« Reply #19221 on: July 11, 2018, 08:17:37 AM »
A noble duty, for sure.

Well it's not glamourous but someone had to clear the fart vids

Propagandhim

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« Reply #19222 on: July 11, 2018, 08:25:16 AM »
Man, these fucking insane regressive leftists on REE live in some lunatic mind-bubble prison that they can't break out from.  I mean, what a fucking shithole they...hold on, i gotta clear some Portuguese fart videos TVC has been posting again...anyway their little internet cognitive brain-jail these people dwell in is just unreal

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« Reply #19223 on: July 11, 2018, 08:27:00 AM »
You all deserve every fart video TVC posts. Every last one of you.
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« Reply #19224 on: July 11, 2018, 08:29:36 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine.

Maybe she had been reprimanded already for other things?  We have no idea and ArenaNet doesn't need to disclose that kind of information.  This lady made a stupid ass response to someone trying to legitimately talk to her and got canned for it, which is within the company's rights to do.  Boo-fucking-hoo.
You missed my point entirely, which I explained in all my other posts. I'm not criticizing ArenaNet; I even said that after the mob formed, they really didn't have any other reasonable response. Yeah, maybe a reprimand would have been enough, and maybe not. Maybe they would have fired her without the mob. But I don't want a mob to decide it. I want the company to be able to handle it without the threat of a mob influencing how they assess the situation. It should just be her supervisor assessing her behavior. And if that results in a firing, that's fine. She was a total jerk to the customer.

That's because I didn't read your other posts.
:rollsafe

Too busy clearing out fart videos.

Anyway, I doubt the so-called "mob" had anything to do with it apart from it getting more attention.

A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

And honestly if what she said in her interviews is even partially true, that the company knew of her outspokenness on issues when they hired her, and even encouraged it, encouraged her and others to speak out and was completely ok with her social media behavior up until that point, it seems pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mob. Or at least his perception of it.

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« Reply #19225 on: July 11, 2018, 08:38:37 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

And honestly if what she said in her interviews is even partially true, that the company knew of her outspokenness on issues when they hired her, and even encouraged it, encouraged her and others to speak out and was completely ok with her social media behavior up until that point, it seems pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mob. Or at least his perception of it.


lol they knew she's a dumb cunt that celebrates cancer victims' death and accuses customers of sexism for daring to offer polite constructive criticism? Thankfully the developer and developers like them will think twice now before hiring these fucking lunatics.

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« Reply #19226 on: July 11, 2018, 08:51:01 AM »
You all deserve every fart video TVC posts. Every last one of you.

They do, they really do.

I’m already cooking up something new to get around bork’s prudery tonight.
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« Reply #19227 on: July 11, 2018, 08:52:07 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

And honestly if what she said in her interviews is even partially true, that the company knew of her outspokenness on issues when they hired her, and even encouraged it, encouraged her and others to speak out and was completely ok with her social media behavior up until that point, it seems pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mob. Or at least his perception of it.


lol they knew she's a dumb cunt that celebrates cancer victims' death and accuses customers of sexism for daring to offer polite constructive criticism? Thankfully the developer and developers like them will think twice now before hiring these fucking lunatics.


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« Reply #19228 on: July 11, 2018, 09:03:43 AM »
You all deserve every fart video TVC posts. Every last one of you.

They do, they really do.

I’m already cooking up something new to get around bork’s prudery tonight.

:batman
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« Reply #19229 on: July 11, 2018, 09:04:32 AM »
When are you people going to realize that all this shit is just a way to scam people out of money using real life social issues?

Don't give them attention.


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« Reply #19230 on: July 11, 2018, 09:05:10 AM »
When are you people going to realize that all this shit is just a way to scam people out of money using real life social issues?

Don't give them attention.

Very apt description of Sarkeesian for sure.
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Momo

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« Reply #19231 on: July 11, 2018, 09:07:07 AM »
Too many people make money from the scam, the fake news people get their clicks, the shills get their patreon money, the anti shills get their patreon money and the rest of us are morbidly curious, why would you expect it to stop :lol

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« Reply #19232 on: July 11, 2018, 09:09:41 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

And honestly if what she said in her interviews is even partially true, that the company knew of her outspokenness on issues when they hired her, and even encouraged it, encouraged her and others to speak out and was completely ok with her social media behavior up until that point, it seems pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mob. Or at least his perception of it.



lol they knew she's a dumb cunt that celebrates cancer victims' death and accuses customers of sexism for daring to offer polite constructive criticism? Thankfully the developer and developers like them will think twice now before hiring these fucking lunatics.

Given the frequency of unhinged responses like yours, I’m more than inclined to believe she probably does experience quite a lot in her online life that has led her to having a short trigger in perceiving things through a lens of misogyny. Even if in this case it seemingly was misguided and in that misguidedness was pounced on by people like you that relish in seeing punishment handed out to people found guilty of wrong-think.

But honestly, this is probably my monthly limit for this cess pool of a thread, TVC’s collection of fart videos would be an improvement to this dumpster fire.

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« Reply #19233 on: July 11, 2018, 09:09:56 AM »
Too many people make money from the scam, the fake news people get their clicks, the shills get their patreon money, the anti shills get their patreon money and the rest of us are morbidly curious, why would you expect it to stop :lol

Pure apathy is the only way to navigate the internet and remain sane.
Who gives a fuck about the whole ArenaNet situation?



See? Much better :doge

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« Reply #19234 on: July 11, 2018, 09:12:14 AM »
:whatisthis
yes i too have some concerns as to whether kris van assche can appropriately follow haider ackermann's luxe-vampire aesthetic successfully but i feel that since van assche has left dior homme and his own namesake label is closed his attention will be 100% focused on providing excessively priced leather shoes, accessories and ready to wear goods.

 :idont


So Bork deleted the others but left the most erotic video up. I see you bae.
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« Reply #19235 on: July 11, 2018, 09:13:13 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

And honestly if what she said in her interviews is even partially true, that the company knew of her outspokenness on issues when they hired her, and even encouraged it, encouraged her and others to speak out and was completely ok with her social media behavior up until that point, it seems pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mob. Or at least his perception of it.



lol they knew she's a dumb cunt that celebrates cancer victims' death and accuses customers of sexism for daring to offer polite constructive criticism? Thankfully the developer and developers like them will think twice now before hiring these fucking lunatics.

Given the frequency of unhinged responses like yours, I’m more than inclined to believe she probably does experience quite a lot in her online life that has led her to having a short trigger in perceiving things through a lens of misogyny. Even if in this case it seemingly was misguided and in that misguidedness was pounced on by people like you that relish in seeing punishment handed out to people found guilty of wrong-think.

But honestly, this is probably my monthly limit for this cess pool of a thread, TVC’s collection of fart videos would be an improvement to this dumpster fire.

What did Optimus say that was unhinged? 

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« Reply #19236 on: July 11, 2018, 09:15:01 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

I mean it's hard to ascribe "intent" to the bunch of people who think Price fucked up. Sure, some people were saying "i'm going to boycott unless you fire her", but most of them were just saying how much they disagreed with her for saying what she did. The mob wasn't "whipped up", it was people hearing about what had happened and genuinely thinking the story was worth weighing in on.

The only reason this came back on ArenaNet is because it was her talking about the work she did on the story design that started the twitter fiasco, thus tying their reputation as a company to her words.

Too many people make money from the scam, the fake news people get their clicks, the shills get their patreon money, the anti shills get their patreon money and the rest of us are morbidly curious, why would you expect it to stop :lol

Yeah, it's sad but true.

Like Glenn Beck, they know that any attention is good attention. It keeps them relevant, keeps people invested, and in certain circles increases their social standing.

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« Reply #19237 on: July 11, 2018, 09:15:14 AM »
Unhinged is basically Optimus/Assimalte’s default stage of being.

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« Reply #19238 on: July 11, 2018, 09:15:27 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

And honestly if what she said in her interviews is even partially true, that the company knew of her outspokenness on issues when they hired her, and even encouraged it, encouraged her and others to speak out and was completely ok with her social media behavior up until that point, it seems pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mob. Or at least his perception of it.

if what she said in her interviews - Allison Rapp
if what she said in her interviews - Brianna Wu
if what she said in her interviews - Etc, Etc, Etc

How many infractions did she have with the company before this incident?
How many warnings did she have for her behavior on the internet?
How on Earth is it pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mod?
Are you having sex with the person in their HR department?
How are you not posting on Reeeeeee? You are like their poster child for defending the indefensible.

Now feel free and call me a Nazi.

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« Reply #19239 on: July 11, 2018, 09:17:27 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

And honestly if what she said in her interviews is even partially true, that the company knew of her outspokenness on issues when they hired her, and even encouraged it, encouraged her and others to speak out and was completely ok with her social media behavior up until that point, it seems pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mob. Or at least his perception of it.


lol they knew she's a dumb cunt that celebrates cancer victims' death and accuses customers of sexism for daring to offer polite constructive criticism? Thankfully the developer and developers like them will think twice now before hiring these fucking lunatics.

Given the frequency of unhinged responses like yours, I’m more than inclined to believe she probably does experience quite a lot in her online life that has led her to having a short trigger in perceiving things through a lens of misogyny. Even if in this case it seemingly was misguided and in that misguidedness was pounced on by people like you that relish in seeing punishment handed out to people found guilty of wrong-think.

But honestly, this is probably my monthly limit for this cess pool of a thread, TVC’s collection of fart videos would be an improvement to this dumpster fire.

Nola coming in to white knight once again. Typical. An obnoxious cunt can't just be an obnoxious cunt there has to be someone else responsible

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« Reply #19240 on: July 11, 2018, 09:18:40 AM »
I once had a joke in my out of office message and someone complained about it to my boss, he had to call me on vacation to ask me to change it, office workers are petty as fuck man :lol

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« Reply #19241 on: July 11, 2018, 09:19:30 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

And honestly if what she said in her interviews is even partially true, that the company knew of her outspokenness on issues when they hired her, and even encouraged it, encouraged her and others to speak out and was completely ok with her social media behavior up until that point, it seems pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mob. Or at least his perception of it.



lol they knew she's a dumb cunt that celebrates cancer victims' death and accuses customers of sexism for daring to offer polite constructive criticism? Thankfully the developer and developers like them will think twice now before hiring these fucking lunatics.

Given the frequency of unhinged responses like yours, I’m more than inclined to believe she probably does experience quite a lot in her online life that has led her to having a short trigger in perceiving things through a lens of misogyny. Even if in this case it seemingly was misguided and in that misguidedness was pounced on by people like you that relish in seeing punishment handed out to people found guilty of wrong-think.

But honestly, this is probably my monthly limit for this cess pool of a thread, TVC’s collection of fart videos would be an improvement to this dumpster fire.


So what you're saying is that the piece of shit celebrating the cancer victim's death is the REAL victim here.

The only cesspool is you and your ideological allies you constantly defend here. Disgusting.

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« Reply #19242 on: July 11, 2018, 09:19:56 AM »
Unhinged is basically Optimus/Assimalte’s default stage of being.

Aww Nazi's got you down in the dumps.


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« Reply #19243 on: July 11, 2018, 09:21:54 AM »
Any good puking videos on youtube?

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« Reply #19244 on: July 11, 2018, 09:25:16 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

I mean it's hard to ascribe "intent" to the bunch of people who think Price fucked up. Sure, some people were saying "i'm going to boycott unless you fire her", but most of them were just saying how much they disagreed with her for saying what she did. The mob wasn't "whipped up", it was people hearing about what had happened and genuinely thinking the story was worth weighing in on.

The only reason this came back on ArenaNet is because it was her talking about the work she did on the story design that started the twitter fiasco, thus tying their reputation as a company to her words.

Too many people make money from the scam, the fake news people get their clicks, the shills get their patreon money, the anti shills get their patreon money and the rest of us are morbidly curious, why would you expect it to stop :lol

Yeah, it's sad but true.

Like Glenn Beck, they know that any attention is good attention. It keeps them relevant, keeps people invested, and in certain circles increases their social standing.

From everything I’ve seen and read a mob is rarely uniform. But you can tend to parse out what some of the larger triggers for people in the mob are, like in this instance, briefly reading a lot of the threads about people that participated in it, or at least got activated by it negatively, and what they seem to rally around, there are some clear tribal/culture war motivations in a lot of the people outraged. Lots of cheering for getting her fired, pearl clutching over certain statements that cut along videogame culture war lines, and some subtle sexism. The screen caps from the second employee and the onslaught of threats and trolls seem to speak to it as well.

My point there though was it seems fairly likely that the viral nature of this incident and the level of outrage seems to be what got the CEO to fire her.

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« Reply #19245 on: July 11, 2018, 09:26:56 AM »
Any good puking videos on youtube?

Two Girls one chuck.

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« Reply #19246 on: July 11, 2018, 09:28:27 AM »

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« Reply #19247 on: July 11, 2018, 09:31:03 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine. But because there was a mob (not Gamergate before the firing, mind you, but a mob nonetheless), the company couldn't really afford to not fire her. But that mob didn't need to form. The attacked dude could have reported it to the company as an individual complaint, and the company could have handled it in a proportional way. But because thousands of people got offended on his behalf, firing her was the only reasonable solution.

Stop forming mobs, people. If someone wrongs someone else, let the wronged handle it. You don't need to rally behind that person like you were all attacked. Only that guy was.

That's all well and good, but she should've been fired from the get-go for turning it into sexism when "allow me to disagree" tweets had nothing to do with "mansplaining" and she got triggered for nothing.

Play stupid games, get stupid results.

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« Reply #19248 on: July 11, 2018, 09:32:18 AM »
A mob catstrophizing and drawing attention to stuff that triggers them is basically how you get someone fired for social media posts though....

And honestly if what she said in her interviews is even partially true, that the company knew of her outspokenness on issues when they hired her, and even encouraged it, encouraged her and others to speak out and was completely ok with her social media behavior up until that point, it seems pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mob. Or at least his perception of it.

if what she said in her interviews - Allison Rapp
if what she said in her interviews - Brianna Wu
if what she said in her interviews - Etc, Etc, Etc

How many infractions did she have with the company before this incident?
How many warnings did she have for her behavior on the internet?
How on Earth is it pretty likely the CEO was bending to the mod?
Are you having sex with the person in their HR department?
How are you not posting on Reeeeeee? You are like their poster child for defending the indefensible.

Now feel free and call me a Nazi.
You sound like a fucking moron. Save your low IQ gamergate shit for people that care enough to keep relitigating 2014 forum culture wars every day of their lives.

...According to all the interviews so far, which is all the evidence we have to go on, she never received a single infraction, never received a warning, and in fact at multiple times was encouraged and made to believe her social media behavior and social advocacy was encouraged and backed by the company. Now whether that is the case we don’t know a 100%. But seeing as this seems in line with all of her past online behavior it seems likely this was a reaction to a viral moment.


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« Reply #19249 on: July 11, 2018, 09:34:04 AM »
According to all the interviews so far

Thanks CNN

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« Reply #19250 on: July 11, 2018, 09:34:05 AM »
Well her statement was that the company was happy with her "speaking truth to power" on Twitter. In this case, she was just being a dick to a customer and company partner.

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« Reply #19251 on: July 11, 2018, 09:34:53 AM »
I can't believe y'all are getting in your feelings about people not being upset enough after a YouTuber died lol

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« Reply #19252 on: July 11, 2018, 09:34:54 AM »

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« Reply #19253 on: July 11, 2018, 09:36:30 AM »
Well her statement was that the company was happy with her "speaking truth to power" on Twitter. In this case, she was just being a dick to a customer and company partner.


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« Reply #19254 on: July 11, 2018, 09:38:33 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/read-op-shu-yoshida-playstation-4-is-doing-so-well-we-dont-forget-why-were-here-now.54670/page-2
Quote from: MELLO, post: 10267097, member: 4093
Whenever you see [READ OP]

You know its controversial thread already for one reason or another lol

wow, REEEs are slowly gaining great insight  :doge

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« Reply #19255 on: July 11, 2018, 09:40:53 AM »
Well her statement was that the company was happy with her "speaking truth to power" on Twitter. In this case, she was just being a dick to a customer and company partner.

I assume you are referring to this as well?

Furthermore, she says ArenaNet was not only aware of her outspoken approach to discussing similar issues on social media but encouraging of it. During a job interview with the company, she had told them she was “loud about these issues on social media and had no intention of shutting up. They reassured me that they ‘admired [my] willingness to speak truth to power.’”


It seems like up until this viral moment the company was completely fine with her behavior on social media. Or at least not responsive to it. Seeing as a quick scan of her Twitter there are quite a few incidents where it seems she could be interpreted as confronting a fan of the game in a non positive manner.

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« Reply #19256 on: July 11, 2018, 09:44:12 AM »
Probably cause up until this viral moment she hadn't called a partner who is so popular with the community and company that he got an NPC in game named after him a "rando asshat". I'm all for going wild on social media, but sometimes you have to consider your targets.

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« Reply #19257 on: July 11, 2018, 09:45:02 AM »

What did Optimus say that was unhinged?


He probably got triggered because I called the cunt a cunt. You see for Nola and people like Nola words are more powerful than intentions and actions, that's why they appear dignified but their actions and behavior are often despicable.

If you were even a casual fan of TotalBiscuit you'd probably know about the way he tried to help everyone in his path or about his integrity and honesty.  But none of this matters because words are more important than intentions and actions and TB was rude to these scumbags on the internet after they attacked him for trying to be rational and offer his honest opinion. This is a similar situation, Nola not only defends but also tries paint a fucking sociopath that celebrated TB's death as the victim but the one's that's unhinged is me because I used a bad word.


I can't believe y'all are getting in your feelings about people not being upset enough after a YouTuber died lol

Hey look, another one. Thank you both for proving what I've been saying SJWs for years in the most obvious way possible.

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« Reply #19258 on: July 11, 2018, 09:45:17 AM »
Well her statement was that the company was happy with her "speaking truth to power" on Twitter. In this case, she was just being a dick to a customer and company partner.

I assume you are referring to this as well?

Furthermore, she says ArenaNet was not only aware of her outspoken approach to discussing similar issues on social media but encouraging of it. During a job interview with the company, she had told them she was “loud about these issues on social media and had no intention of shutting up. They reassured me that they ‘admired [my] willingness to speak truth to power.’”


It seems like up until this viral moment the company was completely fine with her behavior on social media. Or at least not responsive to it. Seeing as a quick scan of her Twitter there are quite a few incidents where it seems she could be interpreted as confronting a fan of the game in a non positive manner.

My assumption was that there have likely been internal reprimands or at least meetings previous to this. She regularly pops off on Twitter at fans and any company aware of such things would have long ago let someone like that go.

That was until the interview.

Now I just assume she's lying about the companies willingness to look the other way, or she is just withholding information about the previous reprimands.

Hey look, another one. Thank you both for proving what I've been saying SJWs for years in the most obvious way possible.

I like how the sanctity of YouTuber life is the artificial line you've drawn in the sand to justify your awful morality against people, I think that's irony...? Either way, keep fighting the good fight to preserve Total Biscuits integrity post mortem soldier!

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« Reply #19259 on: July 11, 2018, 09:47:13 AM »
You all deserve every fart video TVC posts. Every last one of you.

They do, they really do.

I’m already cooking up something new to get around bork’s prudery tonight.

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