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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46380 on: December 10, 2018, 05:54:14 PM »
phalo-centric

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46381 on: December 10, 2018, 05:59:22 PM »
if video games and anime is full of nazis and resetera is full of games and anime watchers..... the odds are they have nazis on resetera.. :o

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46382 on: December 10, 2018, 06:01:09 PM »
if video games and anime is full of nazis and resetera is full of games and anime watchers..... the odds are they have nazis on resetera.. :o

Even ResetERA dot com agrees that the site is FULL of them.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46383 on: December 10, 2018, 06:03:51 PM »
It's all right there... right in front of our faces this whole time.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46384 on: December 10, 2018, 06:04:11 PM »
I mean they're pretty open with their hatred for Israel.

ReichEra.

ethnonationalism sucks, sorry buddy

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46385 on: December 10, 2018, 06:16:44 PM »
Wait, I thought they loved communists?  ???
Only for the proper races.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46386 on: December 10, 2018, 06:18:33 PM »
if video games and anime is full of nazis and resetera is full of games and anime watchers..... the odds are they have nazis on resetera.. :o
It's well known that ResetERA.com is infested with GamerGate sympathizers.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46387 on: December 10, 2018, 06:25:19 PM »
if video games and anime is full of nazis and resetera is full of games and anime watchers..... the odds are they have nazis on resetera.. :o

Gaming side is literally 90% Nazi.

The other 10% are fighting the good fight against Geoff Keighley.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46388 on: December 10, 2018, 06:54:53 PM »
Probably closer to 99% and 1% really. Think of how many members don't even have a thousand posts because they know they'd get called out for being an incel.

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46389 on: December 10, 2018, 07:23:24 PM »
I'd love to see what happens to that forum if they hide post count numbers and histories.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46390 on: December 10, 2018, 07:25:54 PM »
I'd love to see what happens to that forum if they hide post count numbers and histories.

They'd actually have to argue in good faith.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46391 on: December 10, 2018, 07:41:16 PM »
Don't worry, I'm sure the discords have lists.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46392 on: December 10, 2018, 07:58:42 PM »
I'll stick with my 90's hip hop and gangsta rap. All the modern shit is boring AF.

Gangsta's Paradise  :aah
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46394 on: December 10, 2018, 08:22:44 PM »
i love the falling in reverse song that goes from dope g livin' to crucial mosh beatdown to whiny self pity within thirty seconds. it's like a petrie dish for alt music of the mid 2000s.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46395 on: December 10, 2018, 08:23:32 PM »
i always expect the line to be "even Ezekiel thinks that my mind is gone" no matter which version it is

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46396 on: December 10, 2018, 08:31:49 PM »
Gangsta's Paradise  :aah


I'm honestly surprised; it's not getting as much Dislikes as I expected.

 :yuck

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46397 on: December 10, 2018, 08:35:52 PM »
coolio hanging around just being silent the whole time reminds me of how vanilla ice will show up seemingly in literally any cover that'll take him




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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46398 on: December 10, 2018, 08:43:36 PM »
if video games and anime is full of nazis and resetera is full of games and anime watchers..... the odds are they have nazis on resetera.. :o

I wonder if they realize that whatever SEO search is happening, it's linking resetera and nazis because they talk so much about it.

It matters less on a big site like say, Reddit. But we're talking about a small forum that has 40K members at best.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46399 on: December 10, 2018, 08:49:48 PM »
resetera links were banned on twitter for a while based on reports of it being unsafe and they had to clean it up.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46400 on: December 10, 2018, 08:54:15 PM »
in five years does Matty B show back up with a neck tattoo plus sleeves and do covers of hardcore gangsta mumble rap?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46401 on: December 10, 2018, 09:01:36 PM »
Idiots suiciding like crazy in that abuse thread

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46402 on: December 10, 2018, 09:12:11 PM »

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46403 on: December 10, 2018, 09:21:38 PM »
Umm, Everybody, You Know I Think We Might Need To Perhaps Talk About Some Of These Thread Titles on Resetera, Maybe, If You Want To

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46404 on: December 10, 2018, 09:32:45 PM »
Umm, Everybody, You Know I Think We Might Need To Perhaps Talk About Some Of These Thread Titles on Resetera, Maybe, If You Want To
OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
It doesn't look like this discussion is going in a productive direction.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46405 on: December 10, 2018, 10:57:14 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gog-employee-fired-over-transphobic-tweet-now-works-with-a-far-right-wing-gaming-site.85845/page-4
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UPDATE 8th December 2018: Following the publication of this article, Sean Halliday was revealed to have ties to a website called Exclusively Games, owned by someone with links to GamerGate. Halliday told Eurogamer he had been offered a job by Exclusively Games and had been flagged as a moderator while considering the position. But, he told Eurogamer today, he has since declined the offer of a job.
:rejoice JUSTICE :rejoice

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46406 on: December 10, 2018, 11:00:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-chinas-ethics-board-reviews-20-popular-online-games-bans-9-including-fortnite-and-pubg-requires-changes-to-11.86374/
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What a society to live in.

How do you get to the point where you outright ban games for blood, gore and some sexualized characters. Like you can put your own age ratings on the games right?

Why dont they think adults can handle this type of violence (or some T&A)?
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China really is a dystopian hellscape in the making. Almost there too.
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I know it's a big market but it would be better for everyone in the end if Western and Japanese game companies embargoed China. Stop this bullshit now and stop legitimizing the PRC.
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It's scary how much control the Chinese Government has over people's lives. These ridiculous censorship reasons are basically saying "Listen we want to control everything you do, see, and consume."
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China is such a fucking piece of shit country
:chinacry :chinacry :chinacry :chinacry

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I'm sure there will be a big stink about this raised by all of those pillars of "free speech" and anti-"censorship" on social media. Just you wait and see! Any second now!

Any

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Is this true? Not seeing it anywhere else.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46407 on: December 10, 2018, 11:00:57 PM »
its kinda sad gamedevs care so much about money they are willing to put up with this BS
wow vilifying game devs

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46408 on: December 10, 2018, 11:01:39 PM »
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Gentle reminder that PDP is a racist who's goal is to convert as many of his impressionable young audience as he can to white supremacists.

He does this on purpose and needs to be deplatformed immediately, but Youtube doesn't care, and neither do most people for that matter.

All I can do is hope that some day, he gets exactly what he has coming to him.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46409 on: December 10, 2018, 11:02:57 PM »
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YouTube won’t move, they’re complicit. YouTube’s promotion of the alt right isn’t the alt right gaming Youtube’s algorithms, it’s YouTube actively allowing it. Much like Facebook, it’s a monster of a company that deserves a ton more oversight and accountability.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46410 on: December 10, 2018, 11:04:01 PM »
I heard a family member’s kid joking about killing feminists in Red Dead Redemption 2 the other day and had to explain to him why it’s wrong despite what he’s seen on YouTube or the memes his friends send him.
file under "things that totally happened"

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46411 on: December 10, 2018, 11:05:03 PM »
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That with the hand symbol makes it overt, PDP is a white supremacist living in open sight and trying to twist our children. Google could do something but they won't.

Fucking sucks.
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The neutral bystanders need to be made aware of the neo-nazi Youtuber red-pilling kids.

And the local corkroaches need to come out into the light.
:dead

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46412 on: December 10, 2018, 11:08:14 PM »
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They knew what PewDiePie was about. They ALL do. That's a big reason why they rallied around him.
THEY

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46413 on: December 10, 2018, 11:11:47 PM »
All the posts in this thread that are literally "won't someone think of the CHILDREN?!?" :lol


Also the idea that PewDiePie's entire stupid existence has been a long con to eventually bait and switch into launching a Putsch is like a serious M. Night twist.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46414 on: December 10, 2018, 11:20:47 PM »
They started another thread on gaming side because nobody was defending it and everyone was saying "post it on gaming to expose them." :dead :dead :dead :dead

Also:
A lot of kids watch him globally and these kids will absorb his ideas via osmosis and go on to watch problematic youtubers recommended by him. It's a big problem that Youtube is essentially a media company without any of the regulations that media companies might have to follow, depending on the country you are in.
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This is what I'm wondering as well. If the youtubers involved are in countries where hate speech is a crime then they should be reported.
It doesn't really matter to me if he's doing it on purpose or not. He has 75 million subscribers. TV stations all over the world would do anything for that kind of install base. If he cannot be responsible enough to make sure the content he publishes is not toxic then maybe he shouldn't have that audience base. Youtubers complain about not being taken seriously but to be taken seriously they also need to make sure they have their own checks and balances. If he can't do all the research on his own hire people to help him vet content before publishing it. Vet the people he invite to his shows and vet the channels he talk about. Vet his script even.

Says the dude who said:
Easy, we leave them all behind. They want to scream genocide, we give it to them. Encourage developers to make inclusive games and support inclusive games.
Someone should have vetted his script.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46415 on: December 10, 2018, 11:22:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-chinas-ethics-board-reviews-20-popular-online-games-bans-9-including-fortnite-and-pubg-requires-changes-to-11.86374/

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I'm sure there will be a big stink about this raised by all of those pillars of "free speech" and anti-"censorship" on social media. Just you wait and see! Any second now!

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I mean... There's been a thread up on KiA about it for the past 13 hours. Sooooo

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46416 on: December 10, 2018, 11:25:01 PM »
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Can someone explain to me why Nazis seem to be back in style among high-profile public figures?

Like, what? It's both incredibly disturbing and really, really confusing.
It began with GamerGate and I'm 100% serious.
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People think GamerGate was a fade-away failure.

Nope. It was a success.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46418 on: December 10, 2018, 11:27:00 PM »
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As the crises of capitalism intensify, the white petty bourgeoisie return to fascism to retain their class position.

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i can't tell you how happy i am to see this so clearly stated on a video game forum. fuck yeah.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/15866084

 :ussrcry
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« Reply #46419 on: December 10, 2018, 11:36:20 PM »

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46420 on: December 10, 2018, 11:43:51 PM »

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« Reply #46421 on: December 10, 2018, 11:45:38 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pewdiepie-recommends-straight-up-nazi-channel-hitler-speeches-calls-to-get-rid-of-jews-more.86342/page-5#post-15867299

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He's a coon.


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And you are a fucking idiot for using that word.

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If he's black it's alright. We use that word to self-police our own community.

 :lol

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46423 on: December 10, 2018, 11:47:54 PM »
Now to put libertarian/anarchist quotes on sexy Bowsette pictures. :success

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« Reply #46424 on: December 10, 2018, 11:49:45 PM »
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I got reported for calling Ye a coon on here. Just saying.
lol "got reported"

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46425 on: December 10, 2018, 11:52:35 PM »
Is it really a racial slur if you use it against a person who is objectively wrong?  I mean, if you doxx a bad person it's not doxxing, it's information happy sharing.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46426 on: December 10, 2018, 11:54:02 PM »
The line here about people who think of gaming companies as friends is the one that utterly chills me. Because I know it happens, and we can see it everyday on this very forum.

And it's not solely because it's a gaming thing. I think a lot of us here that can spot it and recoil from it saw it happen first with gaming due to our tastes, but I think we can spot it across the entire spectrum of that multi-tentacled monster that is fandom. Any facet of culture that people can create a subculture around - gaming, wrestling, cars, sports, anime, manga, and even YouTube "personalities" - almost inevitably leads to not just communities that veer towards exclusionary mindsets and actions but also toward a sense of personal ownership that gets really scary really fast.

As a kid in the 90s I had my great loves - The Simpsons, Nintendo, Jurassic Park, Goosebumps and later Star Wars novels - but at every point along the media spectrum I recognized that I did not control the art. Other people did, and they did not necessarily need to take my evolving tastes into consideration. It was cool if they did, but if the story they were telling or the gameplay they were crafting lost me, then so be it. Other stuff existed. No one, to use the shitty parlance of a decade ago, "raped my childhood". I had my childhood, unique to me, and of the stuff that existed then some I still love, and some is best left as a pleasant memory.

But as you said, there's that insidious grain of the relationship with the creator that has metastasized with the growth of the internet. Immediate access to the creative process in its nascence means that people feel a stake in the outcome. Remember Mass Effect 3? Or, for that matter, any time a story beat in a television episode or long-running film franchise (ahem, Star Wars) doesn't somehow conform to a preconditioned set of expectations there is a sense of betrayal. Which is simply absurd. I have seen people in the run-up to a film release claim that if the movie doesn't do exactly what they assume from laborious hours of speculation and insane expectations that the product is a failure. There's a sense that if you're niche isn't exclusively catered to then the creators had an agenda against you.

Where this all ties back around is that need for pandering beyond the artistic realm. It starts with those subcultural media - gaming, wrestling, cars, sports, anime, manga, and even YouTube "personalities" - but quickly transforms into further ideas of personal identity. "Women aren't funny", thus comedy is for men. "Women only play casual games", thus gaming is for men. "Star Wars is part of the SJW agenda" because it dared to give representation to women and people of color, thus Star Wars is for white, straight men. And the feedback loop of people like PewDiePie and Ninja and others becomes an inculcation of a strange, grotesque white, male identity built around fiefdoms of media and culture.

I honestly have no clue how to combat this. It is so farcical on its face, overgrown children demanding that the world caters to their eccentric whims, that it's mockable right up to the point that it becomes increasingly dangerous. Extremism in its myriad forms is always deplorable, but at least you might be able to say that its roots were often founded in very real pain, marginalized people driven to drastic measures as a means of asserting that they too exist and they too need the rudimentary staples of living.

But what the fuck are these miscreants? They utterly ruin Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. They're fed, they have water, they have shelter, they have community, and by dint of their gender, sexuality, and often race they have privileges that the people they hate couldn't dare dream of. They harbor murderous sentiment because someone swapped the gender of a cartoon character.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46427 on: December 10, 2018, 11:56:25 PM »
actually those last two paragraphs, removed from the context it was written for and instead in the context that most of ResetERA.com are 30 year old white (or at least American) males :delicious

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46428 on: December 10, 2018, 11:56:49 PM »
God damn that was a good read about the capitalist system.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46429 on: December 10, 2018, 11:58:09 PM »
Doxxing is not really doxxing as long as it is aimed at the "right target"
Using racial slurs is fine if we perceive the other person to be on the "wrong side" of an issue.

Funny how they always have an exception ready for themselves to act as shitty and hypocritical as possible to their perceived enemies.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2018, 12:09:09 AM by Averon »

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« Reply #46430 on: December 11, 2018, 12:00:51 AM »
well, maybe we should hold on now, perhaps the guy is an otherkin who identifies as a raccoon

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« Reply #46431 on: December 11, 2018, 12:06:14 AM »
whoever runs RedMercury, get in there and save this bait thread STAT, the whole plan as outlined in the original thread was to catch all the Nazi sympathizers* on gaming side!

*aka "corkroaches"

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46432 on: December 11, 2018, 12:15:14 AM »
wow, this is ironic coincidental: https://www.resetera.com/threads/pewdiepie-promotes-anti-semitic-racist-youtube-channel.86312/post-15867604
Quote from: Laughing Banana
Seeing that he is the number 1 guy in YouTube, I suppose this really is a representative of what YouTube really like.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46433 on: December 11, 2018, 12:20:32 AM »
He's a coon.
I like how these type of posts generally go unactioned.

That's pretty insane.



Man, that's some racism for a guy who is as non political as you can get on youtube. But I guess that's a sin in some people's eyes.

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« Reply #46434 on: December 11, 2018, 12:24:58 AM »
ERA is really taking their reputation as a hate and doxxing site to heart.

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« Reply #46435 on: December 11, 2018, 12:26:10 AM »
He's a coon.
I like how these type of posts generally go unactioned.

And Lionpride thinks the BCT isn't protected? Fuuuuuu outta here, ninja.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46436 on: December 11, 2018, 12:27:54 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ontario-human-rights-commission-blacks-'grossly-overrepresented-'-more-likely-to-be-hurt-or-killed-by-toronto-police-service.86277/

Should I assume that the gender and age splits accurately mirror the population and that race is the only dimension in which there is a representation issue?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46437 on: December 11, 2018, 12:34:08 AM »
ERA is really taking their reputation as a hate and doxxing site to heart.

those eraskies are gonna go wild when Bernie hosts his its-not-about-me-its-about-you presidential campaign announcement

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« Reply #46438 on: December 11, 2018, 12:39:22 AM »
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If he's black it's alright. We use that word to self-police our own community.
Someone that understands.
I'd be willing to give breh a pass if he's completely ignorant and unaware of PDP's past, but if not...
Doesn't work in this case. The out with "nicca" is specifically that it's not used as a slur, rather everything from "person" to "friend." The history of the terms usage by whites is why they "don't get to say it" not because they can say it in a non-slur context.

But this is a deliberate slur intended to insult someone purely on their race, indeed to actually accuse them of being a race traitor in the usual form of it. And it should be treated exactly the same with calling someone an Uncle Tom, Uncle Ruckus, House Slave, etc. It doesn't "self-police" anything unless the intent is to propagate groupthink based purely on racial lines. It's realistically just pure hate.

Especially when the person's "crime" in support of the "white supremacist agenda" is tweeting "follow the most popular idiot on our platform." And doubly so when the person is never going to see your stupid post. DigitalOp got five days for accusing nebulous "gamers" as racist in one of the least offensive posts he's made in the last month. (Two-thirds of it being information about a prior trailer.) You're using a racial slur for the purposes of attacking someone entirely for their race, two days, self-policing without moderator consent, history of culture infractioning.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #46439 on: December 11, 2018, 12:48:47 AM »
Of course, the thought I put into the argument about establishing a standard for what is okay/not in that post is more than the mods have collectively put into any of their actions over the first year of the forum.

Especially kristoffer.