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[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I wonder if Obama had any idea that he was shaking the hand of a man who in the blink of an eye could have ended his life with a lethal submission, calm and resolved from a thousand fights?

Obamas just lucky he didnt ask for evilore to buy him a drink and end up getting his dick grabbed

[HaughtyFrank]

Oh no, there's a white guy under that mask. Childhood ruined

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I just realized that the idiots on era are unwittingly calling for musk to privatize mass transit.

[Uncle]

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maga-covington-students-invited-to-white-house-to-meet-donald-trump.95074/

Let's just say that laws don't apply to rich white people and be done with it already.

Outside being assholes, what law they broke?

Not even sure you can demonstrate them "being assholes."

 

[stufte]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maga-covington-students-invited-to-white-house-to-meet-donald-trump.95074/

Let's just say that laws don't apply to rich white people and be done with it already.

Outside being assholes, what law they broke?

Not even sure you can demonstrate them "being assholes."

Large groups of teenagers in public, the default is usually "assholes".

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maga-covington-students-invited-to-white-house-to-meet-donald-trump.95074/

Let's just say that laws don't apply to rich white people and be done with it already.

Outside being assholes, what law they broke?

Not even sure you can demonstrate them "being assholes."

Large groups of teenagers in public, the default is usually "assholes".

I will say: having a MAGA hat in a political march already makes you an asshole.

[james]

The only insider left on Era is being pushed away

Ehhhh I've been thinking about retiring from Era / Twitter for a while now

I put an unhealthy amount of myself, my free time, and my career on the line for what exactly? It helps drive conversations and that feels good. But I also get harassed endlessly about any single thing I get wrong while ignoring the stuff I get right.

I'm already being harassed on Twitter about the 2 million Switch

What exactly do I get out of all this?

Idk folks the end really might be here tbh

What a toxic shithole

https://www.resetera.com/threads/december-2018-npd-u-s-hardware-predictions-closes-tuesday-january-15th.91880/post-17106574

[PogiJones]

I like how rebutting political activist David Hogg's activism was framed as attacking a child, but it's open season on these "high school seniors."

[stufte]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maga-covington-students-invited-to-white-house-to-meet-donald-trump.95074/

Let's just say that laws don't apply to rich white people and be done with it already.

Outside being assholes, what law they broke?

Not even sure you can demonstrate them "being assholes."

Large groups of teenagers in public, the default is usually "assholes".

I will say: having a MAGA hat in a political march already makes you an asshole.

I'm shocked that edgy teenage boys wore something to provoke people. I'm fucking beside myself with shock. Shook even.

[Joe Molotov]

I don't understand why they're so angry about these Trump supporting kids being invited to meet Trump. Like, wasn't that obvious once this shit started to fall apart?

Why are they claiming meeting Trump is a privilege? That's gonna be a yikes from me, dawg.

[CatsCatsCats]

It’s so dumb that the whole country is arguing about who is to blame for people yelling at each other at a protest, that’s what happens at protests. Can we move on, America?

[agrajag]

The only insider left on Era is being pushed away

Ehhhh I've been thinking about retiring from Era / Twitter for a while now

I put an unhealthy amount of myself, my free time, and my career on the line for what exactly? It helps drive conversations and that feels good. But I also get harassed endlessly about any single thing I get wrong while ignoring the stuff I get right.

I'm already being harassed on Twitter about the 2 million Switch

What exactly do I get out of all this?

Idk folks the end really might be here tbh

What a toxic shithole

https://www.resetera.com/threads/december-2018-npd-u-s-hardware-predictions-closes-tuesday-january-15th.91880/post-17106574

Nooo, not benji

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the US sales insider

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[Boredfrom]

I like how rebutting political activist David Hogg's activism was framed as attacking a child, but it's open season on these "high school seniors."

Well, he survived a school shooting, dunno what this kids had done outside the yellow journalism controversy. 

[Boredfrom]

It’s so dumb that the whole country is arguing about who is to blame for people yelling at each other at a protest, that’s what happens at protests. Can we move on, America?

 

Exactly this...

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maga-covington-students-invited-to-white-house-to-meet-donald-trump.95074/

Let's just say that laws don't apply to rich white people and be done with it already.

Outside being assholes, what law they broke?

Not even sure you can demonstrate them "being assholes."

Large groups of teenagers in public, the default is usually "assholes".

I will say: having a MAGA hat in a political march already makes you an asshole.

I'm shocked that edgy teenage boys wore something to provoke people. I'm fucking beside myself with shock. Shook even.

I agree... why are they still news?

[stufte]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maga-covington-students-invited-to-white-house-to-meet-donald-trump.95074/

Let's just say that laws don't apply to rich white people and be done with it already.

Outside being assholes, what law they broke?

Not even sure you can demonstrate them "being assholes."

Large groups of teenagers in public, the default is usually "assholes".

I will say: having a MAGA hat in a political march already makes you an asshole.

I'm shocked that edgy teenage boys wore something to provoke people. I'm fucking beside myself with shock. Shook even.

I agree... why are they still news?

They should have never been news in the first place, but here we are, and like it or not, they are the central figures in a story about manipulative outrage journalism. That's a story that needs a bright fucking light shone on it.

[Nintex]

Even if you stop leaking stuff stay around for the fun .
Nothing wrong with just talking about games and other stuff.

Oh you sweet summer child.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maga-covington-students-invited-to-white-house-to-meet-donald-trump.95074/

Let's just say that laws don't apply to rich white people and be done with it already.

Outside being assholes, what law they broke?

Not even sure you can demonstrate them "being assholes."

You did see that jackass take off his shirt start jumping up and down and the rest join in like they were part of house of pain, right?

[Boredfrom]

They should have never been news in the first place, but here we are, and like it or not, they are the central figures in a story about manipulative outrage journalism. That's a story that needs a bright fucking light shone on it.

And the best way to do it is with more manipulative journalism and political propaganda...

[Uncle]

It’s so dumb that the whole country is arguing about who is to blame for people yelling at each other at a protest, that’s what happens at protests. Can we move on, America?

As a nation we could use an injection of good ol' 2016 to liven things up again

[stufte]

They should have never been news in the first place, but here we are, and like it or not, they are the central figures in a story about manipulative outrage journalism. That's a story that needs a bright fucking light shone on it.

And the best way to do it is with more manipulative journalism and political propaganda...

Well true...

I guess we're fucked then.
 

[Boredfrom]

They should have never been news in the first place, but here we are, and like it or not, they are the central figures in a story about manipulative outrage journalism. That's a story that needs a bright fucking light shone on it.

And the best way to do it is with more manipulative journalism and political propaganda...

Well true...

I guess we're fucked then.
 

 

Now we are talking...

[Cauliflower Of Love]

wasnt the clown thing proven to be viral marketing for IT?

[Joe Molotov]

wasnt the clown thing proven to be viral marketing for IT?

I thought he was just talking about the Republican primary.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

It’s so dumb that the whole country is arguing about who is to blame for people yelling at each other at a protest, that’s what happens at protests. Can we move on, America?

I guess the right to free assembly and the right to peaceful protest are next on the line for Essential Human Freedoms Era Think We Should Get Rid Of Because They Lost An Argument Online

 

I agree... why are they still news?

Era members continue to be baffled how Not Wrong they remain in the face of everybody else being wrong

[stufte]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/20/it-was-getting-ugly-native-american-drummer-speaks-maga-hat-wearing-teens-who-surrounded-him/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5f38d7318f88

Correction: Earlier versions of this story incorrectly said that Native American activist Nathan Phillips fought in the Vietnam War. Phillips served in the U.S. Marines from 1972 to 1976 but was never deployed to Vietnam.

So now they can't use "Vietnam Vet" as an emotional modifier any more.

 

[Nintex]

CNN/MSNBC did dumb.

They could've called the kid, the native.
Had them on one of their shows, shake hands and make peace.
"LOOK WE CONVERTED A NAZI TO OUR SIDE!"

But they made the mistake of piling on the kid and not backing down when their evidence was shaky.
So now the absolute madman will get to meet with him and he gets to change the narrative to whatever he wants.

If Trump really wants to 'own the libs' he invites both the kid and Philips has them shake hands. Gives the native guy a MAGA hat and dances to the drum.

[shosta]

"I'm not defending the kid"

two days later

"The absolute MADMAN"

[Jansen]

2019 and people still falling for jdubs dumbass bullshit

[agrajag]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maga-covington-students-invited-to-white-house-to-meet-donald-trump.95074/

Let's just say that laws don't apply to rich white people and be done with it already.

Outside being assholes, what law they broke?

Not even sure you can demonstrate them "being assholes."

You did see that jackass take off his shirt start jumping up and down and the rest join in like they were part of house of pain, right?

at least he didn't do something truly scandolous, such as taking a knee

[VomKriege]

No sympathy, fucking idiot.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chinese-teenager-who-sold-his-kidney-for-iphone-and-ipad-now-disabled.95026/#post-17117673

I’m sure Apple be looked down upon because of this

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

I heard that Trump is also going to invite Nathan Phillips so that he can have nice cold beer with the kids.

[Bounceounce]

"Bernie is not a real progressive (he has too many issues with sexism, race, gun control and voting with Republicans around Russain sanctions).

That said, he won't run as a third party candidate."

Mercury Fred is the culmination of Hill-Gaf in one person.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/critical-thinking-how-we-lost-the-principle-of-charity.95072/post-17124445

 

I'm creating this thread is because I believe as a movement liberals have completely abandoned this principle in favor of what they believe is the superior form of rhetorical argument, the Strawman.

Your mistake is thinking that the people who have absolutely commandeered all discussion on Era and done so with moderator backing are 'liberals' and not ideologues or demagogues, and who are interested in discussing multi faceted issues over haranguing a perceived enemy.

[marrec]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/critical-thinking-how-we-lost-the-principle-of-charity.95072/post-17124445

 

I'm creating this thread is because I believe as a movement liberals have completely abandoned this principle in favor of what they believe is the superior form of rhetorical argument, the Strawman.

Your mistake is thinking that the people who have absolutely commandeered all discussion on Era and done so with moderator backing are 'liberals' and not ideologues or demagogues, and who are interested in discussing multi faceted issues over haranguing a perceived enemy.

I'm being charitable lol

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Wait, this whole thing isn't about Nathan Fielder?






although it does look like him.... hmmm

[Leadbelly]

It’s so dumb that the whole country is arguing about who is to blame for people yelling at each other at a protest, that’s what happens at protests. Can we move on, America?

The funny thing is, if the incident was presented accurately the mainstream media probably wouldn't have touched it to begin with. There is no way they would chastise minorities in that way. It's only news when it is white kids with MAGA hats.

[El Babua]

It just dawned on me that like 80 percent of this thread still posts on ERA.

Lmao

[nachobro]

lol, Black Panther has been nominated for best picture. I'm sure when it loses, REE will take it in stride. 

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It'll lose to A Star is Born. Don't @ me.

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it'll probably lose to the awful queen movie

[Coffee Dog]

Additionally, being charitable is a privilege of the well-off white man. Minorities don't get the same extended to them. It's hard to be charitable with people who want you to not exist. It's easy to go "woah woah let's have some calm and charitable discourse here" when you're not under attack daily through systematic and otherwise bigotry.

 

I've always loved this argument. "There's too much bigotry in the real world, therefore i am compelled to be a shitty person to interact with on an internet forum."

If you want to angry shitpost just do it on Twitter or 4chan. A forum is supposed to be conducive to discussion, and frankly the entire idea of moderated forum discussion is invalidated by bending the rules to a privilege hierarchy.

Every decent forum I've ever been to has had something the along the lines of Rule #1: Don't be a dick! And here is Nynt9 arguing for exemptions.

[ToxicAdam]

American discourse has turned into a soccer match where everyone is waiting to be lightly grazed so they can fall on the ground and start writhing around in pain.

"No, you're not a victim .. I'm the victim!"

[shosta]

...marrec, when did you turn into a full-time public scold policing other people's outrage? Do you think you're spending too much time in this thread? No one is coming to Jesus and all of your RE posts have this Cassandra complex going on.

[PogiJones]

I like how rebutting political activist David Hogg's activism was framed as attacking a child, but it's open season on these "high school seniors."

Well, he survived a school shooting, dunno what this kids had done outside the yellow journalism controversy. 

I wasn't talking about qualifications, I was talking about how someone's youth is used as an absolute defense against criticism for one person, but not for another group, purely because of the politics espoused by each. It's a simple double standard.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/critical-thinking-how-we-lost-the-principle-of-charity.95072/post-17124445

 

I'm creating this thread is because I believe as a movement liberals have completely abandoned this principle in favor of what they believe is the superior form of rhetorical argument, the Strawman.

Your mistake is thinking that the people who have absolutely commandeered all discussion on Era and done so with moderator backing are 'liberals' and not ideologues or demagogues, and who are interested in discussing multi faceted issues over haranguing a perceived enemy.

Actually many Americans gave a lot of charities to the African continent.. as long as they stayed in Africa, then African folks started to migrate to America. Now the US president calls these countries shitholes and the charity givers don’t want them as their neighbours

lol

[Boredfrom]

I like how rebutting political activist David Hogg's activism was framed as attacking a child, but it's open season on these "high school seniors."

Well, he survived a school shooting, dunno what this kids had done outside the yellow journalism controversy. 

I wasn't talking about qualifications, I was talking about how someone's youth is used as an absolute defense against criticism for one person, but not for another group, purely because of the politics espoused by each. It's a simple double standard.

But those qualifications are the thing that dont make them comparable. A school shooting survivor being told to shut up because "guns" and a bunch of kids with MAGA hats going to a march to be dickheads and being called names in return are possible invited to the white house.

[marrec]

...marrec, when did you turn into a full-time public scold policing other people's outrage? Do you think you're spending too much time in this thread? No one is coming to Jesus and all of your RE posts have this Cassandra complex going on.

I turned into a full-time public scold when ERA turned into a pit of piranhas waiting to pick all the meat off the bones of anyone who may disagree

But the breaking point is this refusal to accept the reality of what happened at the Lincoln memorial

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I'm being charitable lol

(or whatever your eventual ban length ends up being)

[Uncle]

(thanks for the assist ahoyhoy lol)

Cherry picking specific comments on a forum is possibly as much a detriment to dialogue as a lack of charitable interpretation, and yet it's often necessary with the volume of comments that accumulate

It ties back into the charity discussion as "accepting an assist" means you're taking their comments into the fold of your argument, and their hot take then becomes your hot take, their lack of good faith becomes your lack of good faith ("why did you skip over all these reasonable objections and pull out the one statement agreeing with you?")

[NegativeCrepe]

marrecs the best era troll and they cant do anything about him lol

[Coffee Dog]

...marrec, when did you turn into a full-time public scold policing other people's outrage? Do you think you're spending too much time in this thread? No one is coming to Jesus and all of your RE posts have this Cassandra complex going on.

I turned into a full-time public scold when ERA turned into a pit of piranhas waiting to pick all the meat off the bones of anyone who may disagree

...the day it opened? I was posting wild FUCK WHITEY hot takes and ban baiting like peak GAF since the signups started.

I don't know how you can say the discussion has degraded when all that's happened is the distribution of soap boxes has narrowed to the "preferred users" or however you would like to put it.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/critical-thinking-how-we-lost-the-principle-of-charity.95072/post-17128729

on the rare time I overstep, I have a proven track record of admitting I'm wrong

 

[VomKriege]

AOC"s next goal should be the senate while dems control the white house in 2020 and 2024. then she runs in 2028.

This is exactly what she will do I would hope.

We are winning 2020 (we HAVE to) so her next step is when Schumer retires because there wont be an open primary for the WH for a long time ideally.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2020-democratic-presidential-primary-ot-birtherism-again-i-didnt-realize-obama-was-back-in-the-race.91234/page-20#post-17123322

America glorious future already secured. Apparently the USA become Komintern proof the minute a dem steps into the White House. Sleep safe America !

[Coffee Dog]

marrecs the best era troll and they cant do anything about him lol

On what earth? He's downplaying excel's experiences right now. They just have to get bored of him first and then that history of transphobia is gonna get im

[VomKriege]

Obvious bad actors are obvious, so you know they are.
This thread is not productive at this point and thus closed

Obvious dogwhislting is obvious dude, obvious just asking questions is obvious dude. There are obvious tells.

Wow, who could have guessed !

[VomKriege]

...marrec, when did you turn into a full-time public scold policing other people's outrage? Do you think you're spending too much time in this thread? No one is coming to Jesus and all of your RE posts have this Cassandra complex going on.

I turned into a full-time public scold when ERA turned into a pit of piranhas waiting to pick all the meat off the bones of anyone who may disagree

But the breaking point is this refusal to accept the reality of what happened at the Lincoln memorial

Dude.

[Leadbelly]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/critical-thinking-how-we-lost-the-principle-of-charity.95072/post-17124944

Benefit of the doubt is entirely contextual.

No one is owed it though.

I'm really wondering now in what context does excelsiorlef give someone the benefit of the doubt.

[shosta]

I turned into a full-time public scold [...]

you're not supposed to willingly accept the derisive label!

[benita]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/australian-partnered-streamer-tells-girl-he-knows-irl-to-kill-herself-edit-currently-banned.94843/

It looks bad, sure, but do we know her post history?

RedMercury?