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James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
« on: April 19, 2018, 08:46:14 PM »
How you rank your Bonds and movies says a lot about you as a person.


Bonds:

1. Daniel Craig
2. Roger Moore
3. Sean Connery
4. Timothy Dalton
5. Pierce Brosnan
6. George Lazybee
7. Everyone in Casino Royale 1967


Movies:

1. Casino Royale 2005
2. You Only Live Twice
3. Moonraker
4. From Russia With Love
5. Goldfinger
6. Skyfall
7. The Spy Who Loved Me
8. Diamonds Are Forever
9. License to Kill
10. A View To A Kill
11. For Your Eyes Only
12. Spectre
13. The Man With The Golden Gun
14. Live And Let Die
15. Dr. No
16. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. Octopussy
18. The Living Daylights
19. Goldeneye
20. Quantum Of Solace
21. Thunderball
22. Never Say Never Again
23. Die Another Day
24. The World Is Not Enough
25. OHMSS
26. Casino Royale 1967

These have changed order many times for me, the only true steadfast is Casino Royale as 1. Very much depends on my mood, what kind of state of mind I'm in, and so on. And where they're ranked doesn't necessarily indicate their quality level to me, but how much I enjoyed them, and I very, very much enjoy Roger Moore smirking. 2-10 could really be in just about any order on any given day for me.


Songs:

1. Skyfall
2. Nobody Does It Better
3. Live And Let Die
4. A View To A Kill
5. You Only Live Twice
6. From Russia With Love
7. Thunderball (particularly the slowed down, jazzy instrumental version)
8. Diamonds Are Forever
9. Goldfinger
10. You Know My Name
Dead last of any professional song ever made. Die Another Die



Books:


1. Casino Royale
The rest are all trash

This will be updated with gifs at a later point as I have to make them again since I didn't save the ones from my site. I will be making a supercut of Roger Moore faces at some point as well.

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Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2018, 08:57:26 PM »
Goldeneye was p good
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 09:16:42 PM »
James Bond still sucks dicks in gay hell but this is a much better thread so I support u op :clap

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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2018, 09:19:52 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2018, 09:23:14 PM »
Lock this redundant thread.

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 09:55:37 PM »
I like Dalton bond. He's a little frayed at the edges, raw, hurt and a little mean, something I don't think we saw again until Daniel Craig.

Pierce Brosnan kinda sucks but I don't blame it on him, they pretty much only gave him 1 good bond film and then a goofy but serviceable one. The rest suck.

Not a fan of Roger Moore's bond. At all. I've probably seen his the most growing up though so that's probably why.

Don't really hate any of the Craig bonds, at worst they're forgettable or half baked. We'll always have Casino Royale though.

Don't gotta say shit about Connery bond.

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2018, 10:00:02 PM »
My favorite thing about Brosnan is his injury/choking acting, which is hilarious and wonderful

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2018, 03:27:10 AM »
alright, you get points for the accurate Craig Casino Royale ranking

but the other Casino Royale ranking is a hate crime

also, using the title song WITHOUT the credit sequence shows a serious lack of information gain/processing ability, as the epic credits improve Cornell's song a thousand times

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2018, 03:42:32 AM »
like Tina Turner's song is totally irrelevant without the Goldeneye intro, which imo is the only one that competes with Casino Royale's and arguably cannot ever be replicated:




there's also something about the imagery of both these intros and their respective "new era of Bond" representations, Goldeneye's status as the first Bond that has to deal with the end of the Cold War (which the franchise never really figured out with Brosnan, arguably EA figured it out with him better than EON did), and Casino Royale as formally rebooting the series (especially post 9/11) and deliberately eliminating the once constant of sexy women from the intros in favor of a bunch of relentless violence (though the franchise since has brought these back and shifted to absurd nonsensical allegorical "art film" intros that Spectre officially made impossible to parody)

also, i'm assuming you left off the true #1 james bond song from "quantum of solace" because of the corporate media's lies that it wasn't official

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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2018, 04:27:03 AM »
Bonds
  • Daniel Craig
  • Timothy Dalton
  • Sean Connery
  • George Lazenby
  • Roger Moore
  • David Niven

Films
  • Casino Royale
  • Living Daylights
  • Skyfall
  • Goldeneye because: Famke Janssen and Sean Bean
  • Live and Let Die
  • You Only Live Twice because: Japan

I'm not a fan of either QoS or SPECTRE, but QoS at least was more tolerable on 2nd viewing. SPECTRE is straight fan-trolling.

I tried watching Moonraker and A View to a Kill the other day, and had to stop midway. There's cheese, and then there's VELVEETA.

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2018, 07:52:12 AM »
I can barely remember the Bond plots despite probably having seen a few of them twice at one time or another.

Best Bond might be Craig though I've only seen two of his. Though Dalton is my fav.

Themes:

1. License To Kill
2. Diamonds Are Forever
3. You Only Live Twice
4. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
5. Snake Eater :teehee

Skyfall's theme is strong in the intro and completely falls apart for the chorus which is weak af, imho. Had Skyfall had a better chorus it could have been up there.

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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2018, 09:14:14 AM »
Bonds:
1: Sean Connery
2: Irrelevant

Films:
I accidentally fell asleep trying to rank the movies.

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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2018, 09:32:30 AM »
I can barely remember the Bond plots despite probably having seen a few of them twice at one time or another.

Best Bond might be Craig though I've only seen two of his. Though Dalton is my fav.

Themes:

1. License To Kill
2. Diamonds Are Forever
3. You Only Live Twice
4. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
5. Snake Eater :teehee

Skyfall's theme is strong in the intro and completely falls apart for the chorus which is weak af, imho. Had Skyfall had a better chorus it could have been up there.

Skyfall is a great Bond song because, like the other greats, it can stand on its own as a normal song. It would have been a hit single without any association with Bond, much like Live and Let Die and Nobody Does It Better. The flip side of that is something like The Man With The Golden Gun, which is amazing but also ONLY workable as a Bond song.

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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2018, 09:43:13 AM »
Dalton is probably the most underrated Bond and I think his Bond had a lot of potential that they sadly never utilized.  I also think Brosnan had a lot of potential but the movies outside of Goldeneye were too shitty.  When I heard Madonna with her faux Bri'ish accent make a jab about cockfighting (get it?  get it?), I assumed Bond was dead at that point.  Craig revived it but honestly I don't think any of his movies were all that great.  I was a huge Bond homo back in the day but I could barely be assed to watch Spectre.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2018, 09:52:33 AM »
I really don't know how big Bond fans could hate Spectre. It's a straight up Connery movie with Craig.

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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2018, 04:37:59 PM »
Sean Connery. There is no other Bond.

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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2018, 04:18:10 AM »
I mean really the best films are those directed by Terence Young (the first two and Thunderball) and I'll maybe add You Only Live Twice because of how bonkers and defining it is (crazy space science and hidden giant base full of goons). Goldfinger for instance is dragged down quite a bit by its pace and direction and despite every else being great it is a bit of a bore. I'm not an expert but a lot is owed to the craftsmanship of the steady and talented team that made the original run, notably production designer Ken Adam. And of course John Barry soundtracks.

Have a lot of affection for Roger Moore but while he was always great the only real highlights are The Spy Who Loved Me (where Moore's Bond is suitably brutal in the first half) and Moonraker (it's super goofy, corny and a bit desperate in aping the successes of its time but the production design and SFX are awesome and the villain memorable) and really it is just retreads of the Only Live Twice formula. The Man with the Golden Gun deserves a watch for how cringily mysoginistic it gets and the bottom of the barrel comedy and writing. Also C.Lee and the midget from Fantastic Island. But the Moore films were very much played on his comedic performances and should be appreciated for that even if they also got cornier with age. I guess the ski  scenes are a good shortcut to define them : impressive in their own right for the stunt work but too samey and formulaic.

On Her Majesty... doesn't hold up well but it's crazy and different enough to hold its own. Great tune and Diana Rigg is awesome.

Not a big fan of Dalton films but I like the bits where it goes slightly absurd with an Avengers (The British TV show) bent. There's a part where someone is infiltrating a poshy house and cooks and butlers are all secret agents proficient at close combat (a bit Bourne-ish too).

Brosnan was really just a C grade knock off of a Connery and Moore amalgamation. I think Goldeneye is hokey, by the numbers and has terrible music (save for Turner song) and mostly overestimated for reviving the franchise (I suspect it's a bit of a marketing talking point that has been massaged by the producers, we get some canned discussion like that at every actor change). Tomorrow... is decent, Die Another Day is a mediocre greatest hits compilation and The World... is really really bad.

Casino Royale is OK, I guess. I'm not big into it and I don't buy the whole rejuvenation argument. QoS has issues (directing and editing) but the backlash was a bit much. Skyfall would be pretty good if not for the last act which is by far the most horrendous thing they could do with the character (grafting the same boring shit of daddy and mommy issues every other generic character have these days) and getting all weepy over Judi Dench (Bernard Lee is the iconic M, fuck you Eon).

And the original Casino Royale is boring as fuck, but this type of sixties comedy never did anything for me. Watch it for some of the clever parody/meta ideas and the cast, I guess.
Never Say Never Again is sort of decently mediocre but really why bother when you can watch Thunderball ?
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2018, 05:30:01 AM »
QoS deserves backlash because it's half a movie. A barely finished rough draft of a script then rewritten and finished by a director, producer, and actor, none of which were writers, then trashed on any given day based on how any given actor was feeling anyway.

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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2018, 08:48:23 AM »
In my opinion, Thunderball is the best Bond movie.  It came fresh off of the upswing of popularity from Goldfinger so it had a lot of swagger but also with the realization that it had to be better than Goldfinger too, which I agree with VomKriege was kind of boring.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2018, 09:10:44 AM »
I would agree that Goldfinger has some pacing issues, although not really any more significant than literally any other movie in the series. Every movie would be better with 15-20 minutes cut. Lol at Goldfinger has pacing issues but you think Thunderball, a movie where a good 35% takes place at half speed underwater and is 20 minutes longer, is the best in the series.
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2018, 10:11:26 AM »
Thunderball is great but yeah there's one underwater scene too much in this movie, the underwater battle is great though, fantastic editing. Guess that was the Avatar effect of its time of binging on new technology.

Goldfinger is a bit flat and not just in pace. Pity because everything else is up there with the best ones.
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2018, 10:21:29 AM »
I watch The Living Daylights last night because I hadn't seen it in a while. It's really something how effortlessly Dalton was able to bounce back and forth between that that cheeky, almost smug enjoyment of doing the sillier things and quips like Moore would do, but also being a real nasty piece of work to a level that Connery didn't even take it, but having it not feel off or weird like when Moore would be in a scene for Connery's Bond or when Brosnan would be acting way too seriously in a silly scene.

Actually, that movie hits a lot of different tones and it still feels pretty cohesive even with the overly complicated plot. There's a lot of schmaltz, real nastiness with women, general dickery, Moore tier camp, but none of it feels like it's in the wrong movie.

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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2018, 11:20:56 AM »
Casino Royale really is that great
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2018, 05:57:25 PM »
The best Bond is the basic cable marathon Bond :heart
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2018, 06:45:11 PM »
The best Bond is the basic cable marathon Bond :heart

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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2018, 09:23:56 PM »
Man, those first 3-4 movies are so vibrant and clear. One of my only complaints about the Moore era is they changed to a different, cheaper looking film stock than they used in the first few movies. Sean is so immensely charming in his first few minutes on screen.  :whew










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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2018, 10:00:20 AM »
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If only it had been fashionable for women to do squats in 1962. Ursula Andress :noah The car and lair explosions in this are ABSURD :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2018, 12:47:43 PM »
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If only it had been fashionable for women to do squats in 1962. Ursula Andress :noah The car and lair explosions in this are ABSURD :lol :lol :lol
It all looks so classy and stylish  :lawd

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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2018, 08:46:06 AM »
Let us not forget the superior Goldeneye intro:



Ok, not really but it's a good effort. If they hadn't concentrated so much on LOOK ITS DANIEL CRAIG it could have been better.


Also I'm a huge huge fan of the theme to Tomorrow Never Dies. I know the movie is garbo and this is such a cool shuffle with great instrumentation, a real back to basics wailer.



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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2018, 09:00:26 AM »
I like the one with James Bond.

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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2018, 07:07:06 PM »
Man, those first 3-4 movies are so vibrant and clear. One of my only complaints about the Moore era is they changed to a different, cheaper looking film stock than they used in the first few movies. Sean is so immensely charming in his first few minutes on screen.  :whew

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I don't think the film stock was thought as cheaper-looking back then, it was probably better in a technical sense and I suppose people liked that it was more natural and high fidelity (and I would suppose allow for less use of artificial lighting) after decades of arguably crude color processes.

Not that I disagree with you, a lot of films from the seventies (sometimes early eighties) do suffer a lot for it now to many, including me, often made worse by the trend of having grey / brown palettes.
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2018, 12:31:30 PM »
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The fight scene gifs are giant but :noah what a fight scene

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« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2018, 04:14:46 PM »
https://imgur.com/gallery/Ipkj87R


Guy Hamilton showing off the "lets just zoom and dolly for as long as we possibly can and call it a day" technique for Goldfinger. I know this is always pretty high on the list in all rankings, usually at the top, and it does a lot to codify everything going forward, but boy is it a slog once Bond is taken by Goldfinger, which happens at about the half way point of the movie, and it doesn't get exciting again until the last few minutes. It's definitely fallen out of favor a bit from my perspective, as if I were to just throw on a Bond flick, I'm probably not picking this unless I hadn't seen it in a long time. Like 2-3 years or more. I think I've just seen it too many times to be excited for it anymore, similar to the ANOES series where I tend to watch 2 and 4-5 instead of 3 because I watched 3 SO much I got bored.

Connery's enthusiasm is definitely starting to wane as early as this one. People always put out that he's phoning it in for Thunderball and then completely checked out by YOLT, but he's well on his way here, although part of that could be that half the movie he's sitting in a jail cell or in a seat listening to Goldfinger speak. Many great gifs in that folder.


















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« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2018, 04:23:54 PM »
Roger Moore second? He already looked too-old for the part in Live and Let Die. I'd put George "I Look Like Clive Owen's Father" Lazenby ahead of him.
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« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2018, 04:42:52 PM »
Roger Moore second? He already looked too-old for the part in Live and Let Die. I'd put George "I Look Like Clive Owen's Father" Lazenby ahead of him.

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« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2018, 05:13:33 PM »
Do I want my Bond to be "delightful"?
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2018, 05:43:19 PM »
If you like to be delighted, yes

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« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2018, 06:03:02 PM »
stro, do you listen to James Bonding at all?
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« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2018, 06:46:57 PM »
Yes, I love it

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« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2018, 09:44:33 PM »
tbh, I probably like the Roger Moore Bonds the most. Live and Let Die and Man With the Golden Gun are just fun to watch. I don't care if he's old. Just look at this epic #dadbod.




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« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2018, 09:49:20 PM »
Moore movies are the best to just throw on imo. They're silly, they're light, the plots don't matter, they're just great travelogues that don't take themselves seriously and have fun. Plus I find Roger Moore so charming and enjoyable, he could have done them into the 90s (both the decade and his) as far as I'm concerned. I'm 80% more likely to watch a Moore era movie if I catch one on TV one day than any other one.

His commentary tracks on the movies are just wonderful. He seemed like such a wonderful, delightful man. I would have loved to have quiche with him and watch him smirk in person.
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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2018, 05:20:45 AM »
tbh, I probably like the Roger Moore Bonds the most. Live and Let Die and Man With the Golden Gun are just fun to watch. I don't care if he's old. Just look at this epic #dadbod.

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I believe this is Thunderball Bond. I will be older Thunderball Connery in a month.  :fbm
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« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2018, 06:35:39 AM »
Its not really fair to rank them because they are all a product of their time.

That said Skyfall is peak Bond.

Best song, most feels.

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« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2018, 09:17:38 AM »
Okay, perhaps an unpopular opinion but I LOVED the Agent Under Fire and Nightfire games for GameCube  :hmph

Quantum of Solace game is heavily underrated. Better and more coherent than the movie, imo.

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« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2018, 02:44:40 PM »
Boyle out of the director's chair for the next Bond which is the most mild shock thing ever. I'm still surprised Sam Mendes did 2 films but I suspect he's much more amenable to conformism (and by big budget / prestige standard he was a bit washed out, maybe ?). Unless the franchise is bankrupt they'll never ever manage to accommodate an "auteur" with a strong distinctive style.
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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2018, 02:51:46 PM »
That sucks. You had to assume that Boyle coming to the Broccolis meant he had a unique idea. In fact, I'd have to imagine that's what the "Creative Issues" are over. Craig is going to be 60 before this movie gets made :beli

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« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2018, 02:54:31 PM »
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« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2018, 03:36:55 PM »
Bonds:

1. Cary Grant

Movies:

1. North by Northwest

Idk, I've never really been into actual Bond. I've watched a bunch, I quite like moonraker, goldfinger and casino royale 2005. I appreciate this thread tho and will watch some more based on your rankings.
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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2018, 06:55:55 PM »
Have I been in here to say none of these have ever been close to good? Because it’s the truth. The original Casino Royale is amusing in an “of its era” kind of way.
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« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2018, 06:59:49 PM »
I don't come to the bad vibes thread and troll you bro :rage

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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2018, 07:05:26 PM »
TVC 15 likes shit like Bauhaus.  He has never had good taste as far as I know.
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« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2018, 07:05:46 PM »
I don't come to the bad vibes thread and troll you bro :rage

And I didn’t go into whatever movie thread I went into to see someone shitting on Barry Lyndon. I was sad. I let you have Mortal Kombat without denigrating it.
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« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2018, 07:07:10 PM »
I not only love Bauhaus, but I like a lot of Peter Murphy’s solo stuff. And Love and Rockets, but everyone loves them and Tones on Tail.
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Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2018, 07:07:44 PM »
I didn't shit on it's quality nor anyone who liked it. It wasn't for me because the setting is an immense turn off that I don't care about the quality of the rest of the movie.

"let me" have Mortal Kombat like it isn't one of the best films of the 90s :beli

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Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2018, 07:10:14 PM »
I didn't shit on it's quality nor anyone who liked it. It wasn't for me because the setting is an immense turn off that I don't care about the quality of the rest of the movie.

"let me" have Mortal Kombat like it isn't one of the best films of the 90s :beli

Alright, I’ll buy that. Sorry for sassing you.

I still think James Bond is pretty bad. But this is to the person that isn’t stro here:

But Bauhaus? How can you not fucking like Bauhaus? They’re superb. Unimpeachable.
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