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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3300 on: January 29, 2020, 09:55:24 PM »

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« Reply #3301 on: January 29, 2020, 09:58:20 PM »
https://twitter com/CogitoErgoTsun/status/1220222306762416130
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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3303 on: January 29, 2020, 10:07:50 PM »
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As we get further away from his much-too-early death, I find myself missing Christopher more and more. Not so much his company, but his presence as a writer.
This low-key burn :lol
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« Reply #3304 on: January 29, 2020, 10:12:36 PM »
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This is why outrage has been redefined as a kind of stupidity. Esteemed writers can be celebrated for being loud, angry, and rude, as Hitchens was. But they are never called shrill. For shrillness connotes desperation, and desperation belongs to the lesser world—the world inhabited by ordinary people, who often argue not because they need to argue, but simply because they need.
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« Reply #3305 on: January 29, 2020, 11:03:51 PM »
what a frightening photo

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3306 on: January 29, 2020, 11:11:46 PM »
The original article is even better:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/packer-hitchens/605365/

Haven't seen self mythologizing like this in a long time :lawd
I'm only halfway through but I just got to this bit about the Charlie Hebdo massacre:

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Theocratic Islam should be off-limits to satirists, the PEN writers argued, because French Muslims belonged to a “marginalized, embattled, and victimized” group.
This is factually wrong... I distinctly remember the metacommentary from this time and the most common complaint that I can recall was that not all speech is of the same value. When defending dissent, there should actually be substance to the dissent. Charlie Hebdo was cranking out crude blasphemy, and it's not like Muslim bashing (in 2015!) was some kind of brave or original statement. When everyone was lining up to heap praise on them, it debased the long and difficult struggle for intellectual freedom. I mean, what ugly revisionism. He looks back and all he can see is cancel-culture.
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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3307 on: January 29, 2020, 11:18:50 PM »
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A friend of mine once heard from a New York publisher that his manuscript was unacceptable because it went against a “consensus” on the subject of race.
Why does anti-thought-police screed always circle back to race science  :-\
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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3308 on: January 29, 2020, 11:20:14 PM »
haha I was going to quote that but then I kept reading and he dulled me into forgetting about it

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3310 on: January 29, 2020, 11:50:07 PM »
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if I see this at the library I will skim through it to see if it's awful enough to read, that's the benji guarantee™

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3312 on: January 29, 2020, 11:58:08 PM »

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3314 on: January 30, 2020, 07:00:13 AM »
Literal parents basement dweller blob chipman thinking he’s above anyone is so  :aah
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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3315 on: January 30, 2020, 07:26:07 AM »
The original article is even better:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/packer-hitchens/605365/

Haven't seen self mythologizing like this in a long time :lawd
I'm only halfway through but I just got to this bit about the Charlie Hebdo massacre:

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Theocratic Islam should be off-limits to satirists, the PEN writers argued, because French Muslims belonged to a “marginalized, embattled, and victimized” group.
This is factually wrong... I distinctly remember the metacommentary from this time and the most common complaint that I can recall was that not all speech is of the same value. When defending dissent, there should actually be substance to the dissent. Charlie Hebdo was cranking out crude blasphemy, and it's not like Muslim bashing (in 2015!) was some kind of brave or original statement. When everyone was lining up to heap praise on them, it debased the long and difficult struggle for intellectual freedom. I mean, what ugly revisionism. He looks back and all he can see is cancel-culture.

Meh.
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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3317 on: January 30, 2020, 09:16:46 AM »
I think it'd be kinda fun if a world leader was just doing his own little petty crimes during his down time. Instead everything's gotta be a thing ya know.

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3320 on: January 31, 2020, 12:38:25 AM »
@el Babua... This guy :fbm


Oh nooooooo :dead

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1222951755232808962

i don't think krystal ball is like that, but i don't trust that other guy for sure.

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« Reply #3321 on: January 31, 2020, 02:21:53 PM »
Literally every Indian person in media is a fascist besides Ash sarkar

*submits an "Indian Brains Are Genetically Predisposed to Reactionary Politics" piece to Quillette, is rejected, tweaks it to "Indian Brains Are Genetically Predisposed to Reactionary Politics... Which is Good" and has it published*

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3323 on: January 31, 2020, 07:34:57 PM »
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/01/dispatch-tries-sell-real-news-right/605860/
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The Conservatives Trying to Ditch Fake News
The Dispatch wants to sell serious, fact-based stories to the right. But do readers want them?
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Jonah goldberg, the conservative author and longtime fixture at National Review, used to have a go-to metaphor he’d deploy whenever he found himself defending one of his noisier compatriots in the right-wing media.

“I had this whole spiel about how the conservative movement is like a symphony,” he told me in a recent interview. “You need the fine woodwinds like Yuval Levin or Irving Kristol, but you also need that guy with the big gong who just smashes out the notes.” Sure, the talk-radio ranters were shouty and crass, he would reason, but they had their part to play.

These days, Goldberg has abandoned such rationalizations. “We’re holding a lot of symphonies where it’s basically all gong,” he said. “I didn’t think the gong would swamp the woodwinds quite the way it did.” Looking back, he admits even he was part of the problem: “I could be quite loud.”

Now, Goldberg said, he’s ready to “atone.” Last year, he left his perch at National Review and joined a handful of prominent conservative writers to launch The Dispatch, a new media venture with a mission that’s as straightforward as it is radical: producing serious, factually grounded journalism for a conservative audience. In interviews, editors told me they aim to fill a growing void on the right’s media landscape, which they described as oversaturated with hot takes and starved of reporting, obsessed with lib-ownership and uninterested in facts. On any given day, those who get their news from the loudest voices on the right—Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart News—are bombarded with partisan propaganda, conspiracy theories, and cynical rage-bait.
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When I asked Goldberg about The Bulwark—another news site run by GOP dissidents—he told me he appreciates their work, but finds the content “too overwhelmingly about Trump for my tastes.” Nor does he identify with a certain breed of conservative commentator who has tacked sharply to the left since Trump’s election. “I didn’t go full Jen Rubin or Max Boot,” Goldberg said, referring to two Washington Post columnists. “Nobody picked me up and paraded me around in a dunce cap as I renounced all my former positions.” (Asked to respond, Boot said, “I wish The Dispatch all the success in the world.” Rubin said, “That’s just sad. I thought The Dispatch was aiming higher.”)

While the new site hasn’t shied away from criticizing the president, its founders seem more focused on addressing the factors that enabled his rise—most notably, the corrosion of the conservative media.
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Both men praised their former colleagues, and acknowledged the difficulties that National Review—a nonprofit that relies on financial support from conservative donors—faces in navigating the Trump era. But the pressures they described reflect acute structural problems throughout the conservative-media complex. At highbrow publications, Goldberg said, once-respectable writers have abandoned their ideological convictions in favor of an incoherent Trumpism. “People are groping in the dark to find something to hold on to that reconciles their intellectual self-regard with their support for Donald Trump, and for just generalized meanness,” he told me. More populist outlets, meanwhile, have all but dropped the pretense of practicing factual journalism. “At places like Breitbart and further off into the swamplands,” Goldberg said, “you can literally just make stuff up as long as it makes people angry enough to click on it.” (A spokesperson for Breitbart responded by email: “lol.”)

French attributes the dearth of serious reporting on the right in part to the “towering presence” of Fox News. “You have one institution that is so incredibly potent as a validator of conservative personalities, and as a pathway to personal prosperity,” he told me. The success of Fox’s primetime model—grievance over substance, shouting over scoops—has shaped a generation of conservative media. And even those who disagree with the network’s approach hesitate to speak up for careerist reasons, French said: “People on the right are very wary of how they evaluate Fox.”
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At one point, the producer instructed everyone to clap so as to synchronize their audio, which prompted Goldberg to make a gonorrhea joke, and Isgur to let out a performative sigh. “That’s why we have a woman on the podcast,” she said. “To make sure we don’t talk about World War II–era venereal diseases.” (“I think it’s a little older than World War II,” Goldberg muttered.)
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Still, Mark Hemingway, a conservative journalist who writes for RealClearInvestigations, told me the outlet’s reach would likely be limited by its Trump-averse posture. For all the attention Never Trump voices receive from the mainstream media, he said, readers on the right simply aren’t interested: “There’s absolutely zero market for it.”
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In 2009, Tucker Carlson was famously booed during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference when he defended the journalistic values of The New York Times, and suggested that the right should be emulating the paper. Conservative journalists, he said, should “go out there and find what is happening … not just interpret things they hear in the mainstream media, but gather news themselves.”

The next year, Carlson launched The Daily Caller. The site would, he declared, have an old-fashioned journalistic mission: producing stories “that add to the sum total of known facts about politics and government.” But even as he hired promising young reporters, Carlson seemed aware of how market pressures could derail the project. His biggest fear, he told The New Republic at the time, was that “you could wind up with a page only about porn, executions, and Sarah Palin every day.”

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3324 on: January 31, 2020, 08:25:48 PM »

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3326 on: February 01, 2020, 03:42:11 AM »
Movie Bobby Roberts is the best source of fuckery :lawd

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3328 on: February 01, 2020, 03:19:02 PM »

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3329 on: February 01, 2020, 04:31:23 PM »
Aw yeah. Good listen.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/on-the-media-cancel-this

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As the coronavirus continues to spread, the World Health Organization has declared a state of emergency. This week, On the Media looks at how panic and misinformation are going viral, too. Plus, a controversial endorsement for Bernie Sanders puts the spotlight on Joe Rogan, and has renewed the debate over "cancel culture." And, the impeachment proceedings continue to move toward a conclusion.

Also includes our favorite transtuber, Contrapoints.

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3330 on: February 01, 2020, 05:06:11 PM »

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3331 on: February 01, 2020, 06:00:43 PM »


Two oldies but goodies about the black africans.

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3332 on: February 01, 2020, 07:50:28 PM »


 :-[ :pimp
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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3334 on: February 01, 2020, 09:34:00 PM »
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1223793177334673408

Charlie Kirk might be one of the dumbest of the wank dads. Not even a good concern troll.

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« Reply #3335 on: February 02, 2020, 01:39:32 AM »


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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3336 on: February 02, 2020, 10:00:11 AM »
Why didn't you fucks tell me Lauren Chen is hot af :maf

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3337 on: February 02, 2020, 04:34:29 PM »
Why didn't you fucks tell me Lauren Chen is hot af :maf

I didn't know you wanted a report on righty women

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3338 on: February 02, 2020, 10:32:19 PM »
Love it when im right about three shit people.

 :win

i see 4 in that tweet

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3340 on: February 02, 2020, 11:45:12 PM »
the idolatry era :dead. man, you guys really fucking hate pagans

e: on second thought, thats gentler than “age of stupidity”  :larry

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3341 on: February 02, 2020, 11:59:35 PM »
Is that considered the same thing that you see here at 1:17:25

One of my favorite movies ever.


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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3342 on: February 03, 2020, 12:03:42 AM »
local women here also make the xena warrior princess sound  :asuka

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3343 on: February 03, 2020, 01:54:24 AM »

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« Reply #3345 on: February 03, 2020, 02:07:42 AM »

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3347 on: February 03, 2020, 03:05:42 AM »

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« Reply #3348 on: February 03, 2020, 03:14:03 AM »
 :drool
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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3350 on: February 03, 2020, 11:42:32 AM »


 :rejoice

He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.

Wild this is how the thread starts and now it's just a dunk fest for the most part.

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3351 on: February 03, 2020, 12:47:17 PM »
Dont think it starts there, this is part 2, find etiolated original thread in the graveyard

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3352 on: February 03, 2020, 12:48:12 PM »
That was a typo, but it works :lol

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3356 on: February 03, 2020, 07:13:29 PM »
Where's forums poster curly when his fave Matt Stoller gets in a fight with a bore fave :mjcry
man: https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1224462917501882368

the take is something like: socialism v. capitalism isn’t the defining tension in “the American Experiment”* (and is something of a continental spook), populism = radical democracy v. monopoly is. socialism and capitalism are too loose of terms, should be yeeted, and also self-styled ‘socialists’ made strange bedfellows with elitist liberals during the cold war, which is why “a lot of socialists [now]” (read: one guy who reviewed matt’s book for the nation) like amazon. this one, uh...might have some holes in it.

*lmao

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3357 on: February 03, 2020, 07:17:08 PM »
I knew Bork was responsible for the structure of today's Democratic Party.  :bolo
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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #3358 on: February 03, 2020, 08:37:02 PM »
 :thinking



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