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a lot of dumb bitches in this thread

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I don't respect Snyder, but I respect a creator getting to realize his original vision (or as close an approximation as possible.)
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I still love how they called Snyder's original vision "unfilmable" and then Disney went and made $2 billion off the same basic thing a couple years later while the new heads of the DCEU greenlit a New Gods film

Mostly, on the DC fan front, I'm grumpy about the waste of Batfleck and how they've wasted Superman in the process too, whereas in the alternate universe we've not only had Darkseid and the anti-life equation, but Superman is back with a big key role instead of a last minute cameo and Batfleck's had a nice send off to make way for the younger Batman with the second part of Justice League lining up with a bunch of actual films and probably a younger Batman and even keeping Superman out of the limbo he's going to be in for like a decade until they recast it and try yet another stupid origin film

Snyder's not great, but his plan wouldn't have broken the rest of the DCEU as much as what they did by canceling the film twice though still releasing it

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we'll always have animated darkseid voiced by michael ironside telling superman "I told you, I am many things but here, I am a God." Which is 1000% the only way you end a major motion picture dc event featuring darkseid but there are dumb bitches everywhere.

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animated DC also did the only previous time Batman "beat" Darkseid:

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*Michael Ironside Voice*
"I told you once Superman, if you would not be my knight, you would be my pawn."


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I have no dog in this fight, and it's worth noting the Kingdom Of Heaven theatrical cut was a disaster while the director's cut is literally a masterpiece. Snyder is no Ridley Scott, of course, but the point is that this could easily be an entirely different film.

All I can tell you nerds is that I saw about 10 minutes of Justice League on HBO and it was trash. But I've seen about 30 minutes of Batman v Superman on HBO and it was kinda cool.
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lol I just looked into the last DC Animated film that came out recently and it also starts with the heroes defeated by Darkseid and uses a number of the tropes Snyder was ripping from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League_Dark:_Apokolips_War

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But I've seen about 30 minutes of Batman v Superman on HBO and it was kinda cool.
You can mostly skip the other two and a half hours then, unless you didn't watch the Batman/Superman fight part. Thankfully, it's on YouTube.

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I liked BVS. I’m not afraid to say it.

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I genuinely like BvS ultimate cut, and I consider it better than many Marvel movies that I enjoyed.  Sure would've been nice if WB execs weren't causing so much fuckery at the time with their DC slate.

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The Ultimate cut of BvS is great. As is Snyder's Watchmen extended edition.
I feel like his films need room to breath to give you all the dark and grim atmosphere and backstories.
Otherwise it's missing the Snyderism.

Easy win for him this film. It'll be better than the original release which was garbage and puts him back on the horse for more movies like it.

I enjoyed the Nolanesque intro of JL, with the bank robbery and Wonder Woman then it went downhill fast.
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I haven't seen any of the DC movies since Man of Steel (which I reviled) so I'll check out BvS Ultimate Cut... just saying right now though that I strongly question the casting of Lex Luthor.
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Wait, Darkseid is going to be in this? He wasn't in the original, was he?

https://twitter.com/Ray__Porter/status/1263982099377188864

that's kind of insane that they cut darkseid out of the movie lol
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I think they just painted over Darkseid and replaced him with the horned guy that looked like the horned guy from Wonder Woman

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He can't be in too much of the movie if they have some unknown actor playing him.  Probably just shows up in the end to say he'll be the big bad in the second movie.  Bet they spent 10 million CGIing his zigzag rays though. 
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I genuinely like BvS ultimate cut, and I consider it better than many Marvel movies that I enjoyed.  Sure would've been nice if WB execs weren't causing so much fuckery at the time with their DC slate.

BvS Ultimate cut was just having the Band-Aid ripped off 20% slower
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I would never say that BvS ultimate cut is for everyone, but I found it to be a much, much better movie when compared to the ultra-meh stuff that everyone still creams over, like Cap3 Civil War.
Zack and the production had a clear vision for that movie and were able to deliver it, but because it wasn’t to the liking and expectations of a chunk of their audience (which then proceeded to throw a big and vocal online hissy about it and act like a bunch of smug dickbags towards those that like the movie), dipshit WB execs overcorrected to the detriment of all involved.

I understand not wanting to lose money and needing to adjust to improve your turnout, but they went about it in probably the worst way possible.
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1. BVS ultimate cut was definitely better and despite being longer felt shorter somehow, but it's still bad

2. No one creams over Civil War, no one gave a shit about that movie at all beyond the air hangar fight

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When they rewrote Justice League, Darkseid mostly was going to be saved for the second part, BUT he was going to appear in the first part when Diana tells the story (it also wasn't going to be a voiceover infodump but the start of the film) of the prior Apokolips invasion. It wasn't going to be Steppenwolf who came before, it was going to be Darkseid himself who was beaten back. Steppenwolf's plotline was that he was coming this time to try and gather the mother boxes to restore his place in the eyes of Darkseid as he had fallen out of favor and thus open the way for Darkseid to come and acquire the Anti-Life Equation.

In the theatrical cut, Steppenwolf still has like a single line left about how this is why he's even in the film. A ton of his dialogue was cut out because that plotline was excised and that's why the Justice League has to spend so much time standing around and explaining what the plot is. (A bunch of those scenes were added by Whedon, you can tell by if Wonder Woman is not in the shot with anyone else, Gal Godot couldn't shoot her scenes with the rest.) Then they stuck Steppenwolf back in the prior invasion so he seemed more dangerous and powerful and stuff rather than just being a Darkseid lackey since Darkseid was excised from the film too.

BvS suffers in the theatrical cut for similar reasons as Clark's plotline, and parts of Lois' got sliced out. That's why the Ultimate Cut seems shorter despite adding 30 minutes, there's a clear build up of events for all the characters, with Luthor at the center of it. You actually see Clark and Lois investigating and uncovering the plot, you see Clark investigating Batman and realizing that he's become dangerous too, etc. It doesn't just jump to Luthor suddenly telling them to fight, you're shown how he's manipulated everyone.

Also amusingly, Luthor's craziness is explained better in the Ultimate Cut, as the scene where he talks with Batman in his cell is extended. He explains his constant crazed obsession with gods and everything in the film is due to having been told by the Kryptonian ship about Darkseid, and that he essentially was planning everything in order to eliminate what would attract Darkseid back to Earth: Superman. Except they've screwed up, there's more superheroes, there's mother boxes on Earth, it now doesn't matter, Darkseid is coming anyway.

And he's a god.
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I genuinely like BvS ultimate cut, and I consider it better than many Marvel movies that I enjoyed.  Sure would've been nice if WB execs weren't causing so much fuckery at the time with their DC slate.

I've seen them both, i actually have them on vudu for some reason.  Literally cannot tell the difference and the idea of a "new cut" is hilarious, which is why this new "cut" will make this film any better.

For the record I actually enjoyed Justice League.
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When they rewrote Justice League, Darkseid mostly was going to be saved for the second part, BUT he was going to appear in the first part when Diana tells the story (it also wasn't going to be a voiceover infodump but the start of the film) of the prior Apokolips invasion. It wasn't going to be Steppenwolf who came before, it was going to be Darkseid himself who was beaten back. Steppenwolf's plotline was that he was coming this time to try and gather the mother boxes to restore his place in the eyes of Darkseid as he had fallen out of favor and thus open the way for Darkseid to come and acquire the Anti-Life Equation.

In the theatrical cut, Steppenwolf still has like a single line left about how this is why he's even in the film. A ton of his dialogue was cut out because that plotline was excised and that's why the Justice League has to spend so much time standing around and explaining what the plot is. (A bunch of those scenes were added by Whedon, you can tell by if Wonder Woman is not in the shot with anyone else, Gal Godot couldn't shoot her scenes with the rest.) Then they stuck Steppenwolf back in the prior invasion so he seemed more dangerous and powerful and stuff rather than just being a Darkseid lackey since Darkseid was excised from the film too.

BvS suffers in the theatrical cut for similar reasons as Clark's plotline, and parts of Lois' got sliced out. That's why the Ultimate Cut seems shorter despite adding 30 minutes, there's a clear build up of events for all the characters, with Luthor at the center of it. You actually see Clark and Lois investigating and uncovering the plot, you see Clark investigating Batman and realizing that he's become dangerous too, etc. It doesn't just jump to Luthor suddenly telling them to fight, you're shown how he's manipulated everyone.

Also amusingly, Luthor's craziness is explained better in the Ultimate Cut, as the scene where he talks with Batman in his cell is extended. He explains his constant crazed obsession with gods and everything in the film is due to having been told by the Kryptonian ship about Darkseid, and that he essentially was planning everything in order to eliminate what would attract Darkseid back to Earth: Superman. Except they've screwed up, there's more superheroes, there's mother boxes on Earth, it now doesn't matter, Darkseid is coming anyway.

And he's a god.

JL really needs 30 more minutes of characters explaining themselves.  I've always said it. 
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When they rewrote Justice League, Darkseid mostly was going to be saved for the second part, BUT he was going to appear in the first part when Diana tells the story (it also wasn't going to be a voiceover infodump but the start of the film) of the prior Apokolips invasion. It wasn't going to be Steppenwolf who came before, it was going to be Darkseid himself who was beaten back. Steppenwolf's plotline was that he was coming this time to try and gather the mother boxes to restore his place in the eyes of Darkseid as he had fallen out of favor and thus open the way for Darkseid to come and acquire the Anti-Life Equation.

In the theatrical cut, Steppenwolf still has like a single line left about how this is why he's even in the film. A ton of his dialogue was cut out because that plotline was excised and that's why the Justice League has to spend so much time standing around and explaining what the plot is. (A bunch of those scenes were added by Whedon, you can tell by if Wonder Woman is not in the shot with anyone else, Gal Godot couldn't shoot her scenes with the rest.) Then they stuck Steppenwolf back in the prior invasion so he seemed more dangerous and powerful and stuff rather than just being a Darkseid lackey since Darkseid was excised from the film too.

BvS suffers in the theatrical cut for similar reasons as Clark's plotline, and parts of Lois' got sliced out. That's why the Ultimate Cut seems shorter despite adding 30 minutes, there's a clear build up of events for all the characters, with Luthor at the center of it. You actually see Clark and Lois investigating and uncovering the plot, you see Clark investigating Batman and realizing that he's become dangerous too, etc. It doesn't just jump to Luthor suddenly telling them to fight, you're shown how he's manipulated everyone.

Also amusingly, Luthor's craziness is explained better in the Ultimate Cut, as the scene where he talks with Batman in his cell is extended. He explains his constant crazed obsession with gods and everything in the film is due to having been told by the Kryptonian ship about Darkseid, and that he essentially was planning everything in order to eliminate what would attract Darkseid back to Earth: Superman. Except they've screwed up, there's more superheroes, there's mother boxes on Earth, it now doesn't matter, Darkseid is coming anyway.

And he's a god.

Thanks for this informative post. Can you explain Donnie Darko to me too, please? And do you have a Pateon I can support.
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My DC... and Darkseid especially... high level wankery is well established in the comics thread. :snob

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I threw my DC Bore Fan crown in the sea after Bendis joined up. Shoulda known the slithery tentacles of benjisales would claim it...
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I have no idea what Bendis is doing, I'm too busy over here with my Snyder bros (and friends) we're rocking out on METAL with Junkie XL and this Snyder Cut is going to revive the DCEU so it can lead to a METAL movie (while Geoff Johns spends two decades writing that Green Lantern film)

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Imagine caring about the DCEU in 2020. :neogaf
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FACT CHECK:

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Imagine caring about the DCEU in 2020. :neogaf




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I have no idea what Bendis is doing, I'm too busy over here with my Snyder bros (and friends) we're rocking out on METAL with Junkie XL and this Snyder Cut is going to revive the DCEU so it can lead to a METAL movie (while Geoff Johns spends two decades writing that Green Lantern film)

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STAFF COMMUNICATION

loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding × guilt × shame × failure × judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side
loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding × guilt × shame × failure × judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side
loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding × guilt × shame × failure × judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side
loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding × guilt × shame × failure × judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side


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I just read in this thread that people actually liked Batman vs. Superman what the duck is wrong with you.
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Great flick. Rewatched again recently. Ppl bitched to high hell about superman destroying buildings in man of steel and what does big daddy zack snyder do? Open his nasty epic with it, showing us how small and pathetic Batman/Bruce Wayne is. Seeding the fear and rage for the rest of the movie. Whole movie is everyone telling Batman you're wrong and petty, shut the fuck up and stop this and him being "lol no im gonna hurt you."

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Batman V Superman might not be for everyone, but I was engaged the whole time and am super glad it exists.

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The Ultimate Edition is better than theatrical. I mean, it's coherent. It is still not a good movie.

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I watched a video where snyder was alluding to the directors cut being long as shit, longer than BvS.

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Zack Snyder has some strong words for those who think he'll use any of Joss Whedon's footage in the upcoming Snyder Cut of Justice League. "I would destroy the movie," he said during the fan-organized Justice-Con panel. "I would set it on fire before I use a single frame that I did not photograph."

It's clear that this version of Justice League will be every bit a Snyder movie, and he'll go to great lengths to keep it that way. "I would literally blow that fucking thing up," he continued.



Benji's boi seems to fucking hate Whedon :lol :lol

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Who doesn’t, Wheadon is a punk ass simp :yeshrug

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Benji's boi seems to fucking hate Whedon :lol :lol

He's dancing around it like a professional should, but yeah, it's clear he has a big disdain, which is probably mutual and maybe even set off by Whedon himself. That said, "I'm only using my own footage" isn't some bombshell Zack is hyping it up as. No shit. :lol

As for Whedon, Age of Ultron really broke that man. I feel like there's a clear separation between pre-AoU Whedon and post-.

As for Ray Fisher, believe women, dunno about men. We'll see whenever he finally "gets everything together so it can be released." Who knows when that will be, but teasing it out with vague statements every few weeks is sure to keep the controversy and thus Snyder cut in media circulation for a long time.

"Can YOU believe what CYBORG said about Joss this week? Oh man I can't wait to see how different the Snyder cut is!"

Call me cynical (it's almost like I watched a Snyder movie once.)
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Re: Snyder Cut of benji/toku Never Getting Over It Snyder Cut Bless Up Thread
« Reply #225 on: August 21, 2020, 04:36:10 PM »
That was pretty good
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Re: Snyder Cut of benji/toku Never Getting Over It Snyder Cut Bless Up Thread
« Reply #226 on: August 22, 2020, 06:11:20 PM »


4 hours of Zack Snyder goodness existential dread  :rejoice

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1297246597974077441
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Re: Snyder Cut of benji/toku Never Getting Over It Snyder Cut Bless Up Thread
« Reply #227 on: August 22, 2020, 06:14:50 PM »
All the extra money spent on this and steadfast refusal to fix Flash running like he has cerebral palsy

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« Reply #228 on: August 22, 2020, 06:24:23 PM »
All the extra money spent on this and steadfast refusal to fix Flash running like he has cerebral palsy

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Re: Snyder Cut of benji/toku Never Getting Over It Snyder Cut Bless Up Thread
« Reply #229 on: August 23, 2020, 03:11:17 AM »
I have a similar response to the trailer as Scott there but still...some of those are still :rejoice, completing the shot of Barry saving Iris, the more badass Batfleck lines that got dropped for humor, all the shots for Cyborg that got taken out, etc.

Not to mention The God Himself appearing in multiple shots.

The shot of the Knightmare makes me hopeful that Snyder IS redoing the framing of the film.

Don't understand the aspect ratio though.

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« Reply #230 on: August 23, 2020, 08:06:17 AM »
I can only hope that the estate of Leonard Cohen will take appropriate and expedited legal action to prevent his music from being further sullied by association with Zack Snyder
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« Reply #231 on: August 23, 2020, 02:08:55 PM »
song was the worst part of the trailer  :doge
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« Reply #233 on: August 24, 2020, 06:06:36 PM »
 :lol :lol you dumb big chin bitch  :sabu
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« Reply #234 on: August 24, 2020, 06:20:08 PM »
I dunno, I said hallelujah when Jason momoa took his shirt off so song works for me :trumps

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« Reply #235 on: August 24, 2020, 07:06:23 PM »
Zack Snyder is pretty dumb, though, to be honest.
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« Reply #236 on: August 24, 2020, 07:15:25 PM »
Why is the trailer in 4:3 AR? Did the Snyder Cut fall through a worm hole from 1997?
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« Reply #237 on: August 24, 2020, 08:09:28 PM »
Zack Snyder is pretty dumb, though, to be honest.

Benji and Toku taking L's 3-4 years later. :neogaf

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« Reply #238 on: August 25, 2020, 07:49:29 PM »
Why is the trailer in 4:3 AR? Did the Snyder Cut fall through a worm hole from 1997?

I thought that was weird too.

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« Reply #239 on: August 27, 2020, 05:21:53 PM »
This is gonna be lit