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[benjipwns]

I can't believe "ownership" isn't donating all the remaining money after costs to various progressive charities. They're keeping alt right terrorists like the ACLU alive by not donating to others.

Opportunity to pull out my favorite launch window thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-revenue-should-go-back-to-the-community-and-gaming-charity-causes.826/

NeoGAF was the most popular video game forum. I suspect that era is over now. One of my concerns, and many, many other members' concerns with that forum is how the owner financially managed it. It became user hostile with viglinks, intrusive ads, and hijack your browser mobile ads. More importantly, it was a forum built up of community generated content for free, moderated by unpaid volunteers, all set up for the profit of one single person. This set up disgusted me and I know it disgusted many others.

During the mass exodus, I knew this is our chance as a community to fix the above issue. If the community made the content, the community should be the ones determining how to spend the site revenue. I offered to fund the entirety of Resetera to accomplish this goal, but the current forum owner ignored me. There's a lot going on, I guess.

I understand this forum is new and there's a lot to work out. Perfect. Since we're not on a determined path, I propose all revenue generated by this forum be used to pay for the forum itself, to generate ways to create better content for the community, and send all other revenue toward another, gaming related causes. For example, game development for the underprivileged, the underrepresented minorities and women, Child's Play kind of endeavors, etc.

Granted, yes, the site is new, there's no money, no one's determined anything with money, etc., etc. However, it's important to have this discussion now. We can work toward being a better, more inclusive community. Do you have any thoughts on how the site should spend its generated revenue, if it ever gets to that point?

I hope the owners pay the moderators at least a little bit.

I wish they'd allow posters to be monthly contributors.

In all honesty I’m fine with the operators from the site profiting from it provided they remain transparent and no one person has the authority to shut the place down at any given moment or go power mad “cuz fuck you I paid for it”.

Could we just start a subscription model instead of ads? I'm happy to pay for this. Love this site already.

The people who maintain this community (both on the technical side and the moderators) should be given some sort of compensation, imo. The fact that the mods on such an immense site like GAF were being asked to donate their time is absolutely insulting given how much the site was pulling in from ad revenue, and how much that community was shaped by it's moderation. It probably gets complicated with determining who to pay and how much and on what basis do you decide that scale, but I feel like it's something that should be considered if ResetERA maintains it's momentum of users and content creation.

I also think that if revenue goes towards charities or some cause, it should be focused on fighting against abuse in all its forms -- abuse by the government (donations to the ACLU), abuse towards employees particularly in the games industry, and physical and institutional abuse of women.

if ResetEra takes NeoGAF's place, the admins no longer need to maintain day jobs, and I'd bet that's the primary reason why we're all here

I'm fine with them making some money. It won't all to one person and at least they seem like good people who won't ego trip and brag to us about how cool they are.

I have no problem with people making money.

I do have a problem with just admins/owners getting money while mods don’t get anything. Mods keep the forum in check.

a reset era podcast
a reset era youtube channel
a reset era news site

and all that money gained from those should go back into making those better. i think it going back into one guys pockets will just end up back where we started.

Jim got screwed over if any of you recall. He was a good dude.

That said, what do people think of the possibility of setting this up as a non-profit corporation? It undoubtedly serves a public purpose. Donations or contributions would be tax deductible, everyone working on the site could be paid competitive wages, and any profits would be put back into the site for use however the community decides.

Mods moderate and the community makes the content. Both are important functions. The mods should not be the only ones paid.

[benjipwns]

Not a mention of fruit baskets in sight.

I was really surprised to discover the mods on gaf were not being reimbursed at all considering the amount of crap they had to put up with, the time they devoted and how much revenue the site was pulling in.

Not sure tbh. Afaik they weren't paid a salary, but I had always hoped that Evilore at least gave them all a healthy Christmas bonus. A console, some games, something. Evilore made a lot of money, enough to travel the world and not work as he has stated in the past. Mods, or site admins not getting anything always seemed ridiculous to me.

[benjipwns]

Absolutely fantastic for sure. I'm not surprised this issue hasn't yet been addressed. It's still early. But I figured we should start the conversation now. It's a massive way for us to distinguish our community.

Imagine funding really great gaming investigative journalism. Or a unique indie game. A documentary on a game development. Sending underprivileged kids to game development school. We can do that.

[benjipwns]

Sending underprivileged kids to game development school.

[Nintex]

The OP has since been banned 

[Joe Molotov]

Resetera to Poor Kids: Learn to Code

[benjipwns]

Mods and administrators should be paid a salary. It's a tremendous amount of work to keep a place like this running and moderated, and it's completely unfair to expect people to take on such a commitment without helping them to pay the bills.

Or to put it another way, salaries ensure that we can retain the best admins and moderators. It's an investment in the site, and an important one.

Any profit above that fair salary should go to charity.

[stufte]

Resetera to Poor Kids: Learn to Code

Careful, Twitter might see this and ban you.

[Propagandhim]

Mods and administrators should be paid a salary. It's a tremendous amount of work to keep a place like this running and moderated, and it's completely unfair to expect people to take on such a commitment without helping them to pay the bills.

Or to put it another way, salaries ensure that we can retain the best admins and moderators. It's an investment in the site, and an important one.

Any profit above that fair salary should go to charity.

This is so cute.

[benjipwns]

What is important, though, is that we decide the direction of this forum. It's community generated content. The revenue shouldn't be used to line the owner's pockets. It should go into a community focused effort.

[Joe Molotov]

What is important, though, is that we decide the direction of this forum. It's community generated content. The revenue shouldn't be used to line the owner's pockets. It should go into a community focused effort.

Should have joined the secret discord if they wanted to decide the direction of the forum.

[Propagandhim]

Guess we know how that one went.

[Drainage]

It would be easier to scale the heights of Mt. Kilimanjaro than to get Cerium to cough up any of that sweet community-generated revenue. Surely there’s someone out there who has learned the hard way.

[Propagandhim]

Imagine how much better the Steam Storefront could be if the miserly Bore sent its $2 a day to underprivileged kids to learn Unity.

[VomKriege]

If this ad revenue estimate is roughly accurate and Cerium takes half or more of what's left after expenses, that's a pretty good gig (especially if you have some more other work by the side). Less so for the others but still...

I imagine GAF generated more by virtue of larger userbase and traffic... Lore maybe made 100k$ gross per year (it was sort of the common wisdom, wasn't it ?). Man he should have sold even for low 7 figures, unless he was cashing even more than that.

[VomKriege]

He made closer to $600k a year from google ads alone, and he had other sources.

Source:  I had a friend who worked for Google look it up.

 

No wonder the ads were so fucking aggressive 

[Propagandhim]

Man that's so fucking ballsy not floating even a tiny bit of that money back to his staff.      No wonder they peaced out on his ass in an instant.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

No, I think more than four people signed the LLC.

I've recently come across some info that one of the "persons" is actually a holding entity. Let's just say that I can't say anymore because of ongoing proceedings.

[benjipwns]

it was a pretty open secret that Lore wasn't receiving the seven figure type offers for the site by the end, I think he even admitted it had been a while since somebody made an offer despite the GamePro cover, GameTrailers documentaries, etc.

though he had also been pretty open about not wanting to sell it, and people had been moving on from forums as the center of websites

NeoGAF.com still had good enough traffic that the ads should have been doing well, I mean look at ResetERA.com's views traffic on major gaming threads compared to the ~7000 posters that post everything.

[clothedmacuser]

Another ally assassinated. More infighting on the left.

Sorry for being too uppity.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alyssa-milano-backlash-im-trans-im-a-poc-im-an-immigrant-im-a-lesbian-im-a-gay-man-im-the-disabled-im-everything.104829/post-18774011


Enzom right now

"That my shtick!"

[Uncle]

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Guess we know how that one went.

Whoa, Rowlf has no avatar

When was the last time he even posted?  I can only see results from 2018

Did he leave?

[benjipwns]

ResetERA.com has a pretty stable niche, even if it's like 1/4th of 2016 NeoGAF.com, everyone just fucked off from GAF when it imploded and you don't really get people coming back from that

[BisMarckie]

Another ally assassinated. More infighting on the left.

Sorry for being too uppity.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alyssa-milano-backlash-im-trans-im-a-poc-im-an-immigrant-im-a-lesbian-im-a-gay-man-im-the-disabled-im-everything.104829/post-18774011


Enzom right now

"That my shtick!"

?

More like

[benjipwns]

I've recently come across some info that one of the "persons" is actually a holding entity. Let's just say that I can't say anymore because of ongoing proceedings.

Emily Rogers Heidecker Jr. Memorial Arts Foundation

[bork]

People are, in fact, excited by new storefronts.

A statement like this needs to have some sort of citation or elaboration. Who is excited by storefronts? Who are these people?

[Boredfrom]

HOLY SHIT JUSSIE SMOLLETT 2.0:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/usa-today-johnny-depp-sues-amber-heard-for-defamation-seeking-50-million.102882/page-4#post-18773012

[benjipwns]

It's... it's... it's almost as if mob reaction is not productive?

How many thread backfires Era gonna need to go through before knee-jerk reactions disappear? You see posts by member and mod alike on the first page ragging on Depp and assassinating his character.

Shit posts like this need to stop

[Uncle]

Another ally assassinated. More infighting on the left.

Sorry for being too uppity.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alyssa-milano-backlash-im-trans-im-a-poc-im-an-immigrant-im-a-lesbian-im-a-gay-man-im-the-disabled-im-everything.104829/post-18774011


Enzom right now

"That my shtick!"

Wait wait

This thread is a disaster

And meanwhile the alt right troll that asked her if she was transgender and sparked all this bullshit is laughing his way to the bank I guarantee it. Another ally assassinated. More infighting on the left.

I looked this up

https://twitter.com/mancode1972/status/1104135209635725321

The guy is actually some kind of southern murica military gun nut talking shit about the democrats 

It's too fucking easy

[benjipwns]

I don't know much about Amber Heard but I follower her on Instagram.

why

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Base Milano cookie.

[benjipwns]

ResetERA.com probably wishes they knew this:

Heard dated Elon Musk for about a year

[Cauliflower Of Love]

is that racist?

[james]

He made closer to $600k a year from google ads alone, and he had other sources.

Source:  I had a friend who worked for Google look it up.

Can you ask your uncle at Nintendo when the new Pilotwings is coming out?

[Boredfrom]

Captain Jack Sparrow was abused by his wife... 

[benjipwns]

Captain Jack Sparrow was abused by his wife... 

no, no being sad

[benjipwns]

I think they were both abusive, there has been no ruling (yet) to say she made shit up. Amber has been know to be a abuser for ages.

[Nintex]

Amber Heard when Johnny Depp took a selfie with Kate Winslet


Amber Heard when Johnny and his friends got home to play some Xbox and hang out with beers

[Uncle]

Or even better

I still believe they were both trash and insane.

Why?

[BisMarckie]

It's... it's... it's almost as if mob reaction is not productive?

How many thread backfires Era gonna need to go through before knee-jerk reactions disappear? You see posts by member and mod alike on the first page ragging on Depp and assassinating his character.

Shit posts like this need to stop

Newsfeed

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Captain Jack Sparrow was abused by his wife... 

no, no being sad

This is honestly one of the worst lonely island productions.

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/usa-today-johnny-depp-sues-amber-heard-for-defamation-seeking-50-million.102882/page-4#post-18773572

See, no need for college to be a accountant for near billionaires.

[benjipwns]

does Beefy really think Depp's attorneys would go to that extent IN COURT if they didn't know they were going to tear Heard's organs out with their case?

[benjipwns]

it's a defamation case coming OUT OF THEIR DIVORCE case involving a gigantic Hollywood celebrity, this was like threatening an atomic attack

[benjipwns]

reading about how this has come about, her attorneys have probably broken their panic button

[ToxicAdam]

Social media reminds me of pro-wrestling in back the 70's. Everyone just accepts what is presented to them and boos/cheers accordingly.  But instead of the performers dressing up in common racist tropes or stereotypes, the performers are dressing up as victims.

 

[HaughtyFrank]

Or even better

I still believe they were both trash and insane.

Why?

It's Beefy. Dude is even mad that someone points out that mob reactions are dumb

https://www.resetera.com/threads/usa-today-johnny-depp-sues-amber-heard-for-defamation-seeking-50-million.102882/post-18774838

[Nintex]

So he has 87 pieces of evidence (read video tapes) of the abuse.

The DC Universe just lost their backup thot.  :'(

[benjipwns]

On Saturday, the actress, who has since spoken out about her sexuality, reflected on the time she told her parents about dating a woman during the Making Change On and Off the Screen panel at SXSW Conference and Festival.

"I am from Austin, Texas. My dad is out of central casting Texan. Good Southern man, and I was raised in a religious home," she described on the panel, according to People. "And being an outspoken lesbian, atheist, vegetarian, I remember when I told them about my relationship, that I was in love with this woman, and at the beginning of that it was just tears, tears."

According to the actress, her parents "didn't know how to process it because, for them, it was being thrown into a binary system of processing it, negative or positive."

However, over time, her parents' attitude shifted.

"Five years later, I was getting an award, and I asked my parents to drive out to Dallas," Heard recalled. "And I see them sitting front and center and here I am getting this 'gay' award…My parents in five years, look at the journey."

In her words, "Attitudes and hearts can change."

...

While she said she never hid her sexuality from family and friends, Heard also faced pushback from the industry once she went public about it.

"They pointed to no other working romantic lead, no other actress, that was out," she told Allure. "I didn't come out. I was never in. It's limiting, that LGBTQ thing. It served a function as an umbrella for marginalized people to whom rights were being denied, but it loses its efficacy because of the nuanced nature of humanity."

The Aquaman star continued, "As we become more educated and expand the facts of our nature, we keep adding letters. It was a great shield, but now we're stuck behind it. It's so important to resist labels. I don't care how many letters you add. At some point, it's going to spell 'WE ARE HUMAN.'"

good job with the abusive lesbian trope, Amber

[VomKriege]

Or even better

I still believe they were both trash and insane.

Why?

It's Beefy. Dude is even mad that someone points out that mob reactions are dumb

https://www.resetera.com/threads/usa-today-johnny-depp-sues-amber-heard-for-defamation-seeking-50-million.102882/post-18774838

He should be careful because he might get on the wrong side of the mob if ResetEra overcorrect like they're prone to do recently.

[Nintex]

They re-cast WonderWoman?

Thanks for reminding me that not all is lost on this planet. 

[Boredfrom]

Amber Heard when Johnny Depp took a selfie with Kate Winslet
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Amber Heard when Johnny and his friends got home to play some Xbox and hang out with beers
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Man, she is hot as Mera....

[benjipwns]

Sure they would;  if they can alter the public's opinion of Johnny towards the positive they wouild file a case whether it would actually work or not.

a defamation filing with boxes of evidence is overkill to just improve his already superior public opinion in an ongoing divorce case

[benjipwns]

bonus points to her for bombing her divorce right after coming off a billion dollar film

[Uncle]

does Beefy really think Depp's attorneys would go to that extent IN COURT if they didn't know they were going to tear Heard's organs out with their case?

Sure they would;  if they can alter the public's opinion of Johnny towards the positive they wouild file a case whether it would actually work or not.

People having a knee-jerk reaction in either direction are being kind of ridiculous.

Why do people even have knee-jerk reactions like what the fuck is your knee supposed to be doing

It's not about the tendon reflex is it?  Sounds more like suddenly standing up with a jerk

[thisismyusername]

What's a premium web server cost on Azure? 3 grand a year? Double that for load balancing, hell, triple it and you hit 10 grand maybe with a LB in place too?

Cerium rolling in dat dough.

Capitalism works!

Step right up and do the pricing yourself!

[PogiJones]

"Stop telling us not to give hysterical knee-jerk reactions so we don't get egg on our faces once again."

Community Resettler

[benjipwns]

Sure they would;  if they can alter the public's opinion of Johnny towards the positive they wouild file a case whether it would actually work or not.

a defamation filing with boxes of evidence is overkill to just improve his already superior public opinion in an ongoing divorce case

Not when altering that opinion could save or cost Johnny literally hundreds of millions of dollars.

Your skepticism in Hollywood court fights is warranted, but in this case it's not a typical defamation filing intended to be withdrawn when the fights over, it's an atomic bomb:
https://twitter.com/ThatLazarusCunt/status/1105289650967625728

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/usa-today-johnny-depp-sues-amber-heard-for-defamation-seeking-50-million.102882/page-4#post-18773572

See, no need for college to be a accountant for near billionaires.

That's the entire point. Depp sued his financial managers saying they were negligent but then the managers turned around and showed receipts

Allegedly Depp has managed to fritter away almost all of his $650m fortune on sprawling mansions, old guitars, Andy Warhol artworks, designer clothes, luxury cars, private jets, a 40 strong entourage, a cluster of islands in the Bahamas and vintage wine.

“It’s my money. If I want to buy 15,000 cotton balls a day, it’s my thing,” Depp told The Wall Street Journal last year.

[Boredfrom]

everyone waxing poetic about knee-jerk reactions right now is in the middle of a knee-jerk reaction. this "news" is three years old.

get a grip and do the thing you claim to be so good at and wait before jumping to conclusions, seriously. we don't know anything new one way or the other.

One of the posts before the thread was bumped (by RE intelectual Commediu):

Life comes at you fast. Hope she counter sues.

[HaughtyFrank]

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"Stop telling us not to give hysterical knee-jerk reactions so we don't get egg on our faces once again."

Community Resettler

Idris Elba should sue for defamation