River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible

[Momo]

benji is alt-just-right 

[benjipwns]

The relevant narrative is how ResetERA.com became the reactionaries they probably once claimed to hate. They want to try people as war criminals, make exceptions for the death penalty (something they ban for under less heated circumstances) and use without trial, shut down entire websites and arrest their userbases, arrest anyone who's ever talked to an accused criminal, hold as complicit a moron on YouTube who literally does nothing approaching what they accuse him of because he was mentioned by an accused criminal, tear down an entire company and its employees for "promoting terrorism" for having an ill-advised internet goof, empower the Trump Administration to control Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. because these "further terrorism" and every other insane reactionary view that the first decade of this century were supposed to make "never again."

At this point I wouldn't be surprised to start seeing arguments in favor of torture on ResetERA.com. For a Twitch streamer misgendering someone or something.

That's their real ongoing crime. They're irrelevant so caring about their views is the wrong objective. What to care about is that we can't make fun of them and facetiously parody them anymore. They actually get to that point too fast. I had to make the above example so absurd to ensure they don't get there ever that it's not even amusing. And all this while being unable to identify the actual trolls and not paying me anything to run their Mod Admiralty for them.

I'm the real victim here. Can't you all see that?

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Eternally praise me or I'll destroy you.

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[PogiJones]

Alright, benji, if you don't think posting quote-wall after quote-wall of people's reaction to the shooting and saying "lmao at these people" is itself a reaction to the shooting, then go ahead and take offense I guess.

All I'm saying is it's sad, and people are gonna take it poorly. And I don't think posting walls of poor reactions is any nobler than the reactions themselves. I ain't got no beef with you, man. That's just how I see the situation.

It might be worth pointing out reactions like ResetEra's are tied to the motives of the killer who explicitly detailed he is hoping to accelerate things into a Turner Diaries scenario, where liberuls taking muh guns away results in the white race "waking up". Increase racial animosity, increase tension over gun rights. Mass shootings have become so cynical in presentation they are now self-referential and include livestreaming memes. It's gone beyond just hoping to get attention for a personal manifesto or a straight forward vengeance towards girls. These incidents are so absurdly useful for partisan reasons that a killer like this can now use them to hurt his own "cause" to increase polarization in the long term. It was once primarily a gun rights issue, but now it is a Trump and racial (and free speech/open internet) issue. He wants people to get more angry about guns and to be angry about straight-white-males despite those being principles he believes in because he feels society (whites) is too "made into a giant dad" for a race war. This also happens to sometimes be the underlying motive for instances of islamic terrorism, where they simply don't care about blowback in the slightest. To see how we get here, just look at previous ResetEra terror threads where they look on with great anticipation for the race/religion of the shooter. It's like your team winning or losing the big game if it's a radical muslim (right-wing) or 4chan cac (left-wing). ResetEra is a stand in for the whole internet. I could understand why you would find it tacky, but I don't think there is any separating of the cause and reaction in the age of twitch mass-killings.

e: "made into a giant dad" what the hell do these word filters even mean

You're right; the reactions of people to this and other things like this will likely have a lasting impact. How people react does matter. And using RE as a test case for how the extreme left will react may actually be useful. And as Nate said, the reactions on the extreme right are extremely disgusting. The best way to combat an extremist and his plans is not with opposite extremism, but rather with levelheadedness. Unfortunately, I think that's becoming more and more difficult to come by.

[PogiJones]

The relevant narrative is how ResetERA.com became the reactionaries they probably once claimed to hate. They want to try people as war criminals, make exceptions for the death penalty (something they ban for under less heated circumstances) and use without trial, shut down entire websites and arrest their userbases, arrest anyone who's ever talked to an accused criminal, hold as complicit a moron on YouTube who literally does nothing approaching what they accuse him of because he was mentioned by an accused criminal, tear down an entire company and its employees for "promoting terrorism" for having an ill-advised internet goof, empower the Trump Administration to control Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. because these "further terrorism" and every other insane reactionary view that the first decade of this century were supposed to make "never again."

At this point I wouldn't be surprised to start seeing arguments in favor of torture on ResetERA.com. For a Twitch streamer misgendering someone or something.

That's their real ongoing crime. They're irrelevant so caring about their views is the wrong objective. What to care about is that we can't make fun of them and facetiously parody them anymore. They actually get to that point too fast. I had to make the above example so absurd to ensure they don't get there ever that it's not even amusing. And all this while being unable to identify the actual trolls and not paying me anything to run their Mod Admiralty for them.

I'm the real victim here. Can't you all see that?

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Eternally praise me or I'll destroy you.

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Yeah, it all boils down to the most insidious forms of guilt by association. They have embraced it wholeheartedly, and if it were confined to just RE it wouldn't be so bad. But guilt by association seems to have taken root in our culture in ways I never thought possible even 10 years ago.

[benjipwns]

ResetERA.com is a self-proclaimed left. It's really quite hard to consider them progressive in their social views, or collectivist in their economics. They're mostly reactionaries who lash out at their perceived enemies (which includes all of the member base) first and decide the reasons never. Hence the constant obsession with optics and performative behaviors.

[Momo]

Why don't you just call them what you really want to call them?

----ers?

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gaffers

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[benjipwns]

I mean how is it PDPs fault that some lunatic are murdering people?

It is like blaming violent video games on school shootings.

I don't even like Pewdiepie, but holy hell, there is no pleasing you people.

Just stop

It is like blaming violent video games on school shootings.

Yes, things like this happen in total vaccums. There's no issues with the people and organizations that promote said ideals. It's always just a singular person or small group that gets the idea in their head out of nowhere.

PewDiePie is a gross despicable human being for spreading what he does and knowing the influence he has. This is only going to happen more and more until he is deplatformed.

40 confirmed dead now.

Anyone wanna defend this shit? Then fuck you too.

One day. Amazing. Can't wait to see him again tomorrow doing the exact same shit.

Come on, I'm sure the user trying to stir shit in a mass shooting thread will learn a lot in 24 hours

He is complicit, the Collin guy with his "don't touch ma stuff" snake flag supporting him comfirms it.

Lots of fucking alt right cowards in this thread defending their shit infested court jester. You all ain't slick coming out of the wood work trying to act like you have something insightful and eloquent to say about human behavior and societal expectations/conditioning.

Fucking pathetic.

PewDiePie is a sick goddamn idiot

But anyone throwing any blame on him for this is hypocritical as fuck, this is EXACTLY like blaming violence on video games.

No it really fucking isnt

Go away.

But anyone throwing any blame on him for this is hypocritical as fuck, this is EXACTLY like blaming violence on video games.

Fuck off.

But anyone throwing any blame on him for this is hypocritical as fuck, this is EXACTLY like blaming violence on video games.

Nope. Not at all. The motherfucker makes edgy jokes and has made racist and antisemitic comments in the past. And KIDS WATCH HIM.

He complicit in all this.

Trying to assign responsibility to pewdiepie for this, is as dumb as blaming Jodie foster for when Reagan was shot.

Fuck off.

The difference is a kid can’t go out and buy an M Rated game by themselves. There’s nothing really stopping a kid from watching a pewdiepie video.

Forums > Discussion > Gaming Forum

[benjipwns]

hero:

[counterhit]

What's most annoying about ResetEra isn't really that they go with their most extreme emotional and irrational reaction, because everyone does that, it is that they immediately mow down anyone who dares tries to complicate that reaction.

I mean just think for a second: was this guy really supporting pewdiepie by shouting his name before committing one of the worst shootings in that nation's history? Do you think white supremacists feel any loyalty to pewdiepie besides "he makes the SJWs and mainstream media mad XD"?

[Momo]

The real enemy are the entities trying to be divisive and preventing normal conversations with each other, be that the cnn/fox/huffpoop/brokebarts/russianbots/ameribots/benjis of this world, you get people radicalized so far into their asshole they believe all the overexaggerated clickbait negative shit they get vomited into their beaks like baby birds from momma media. Then they go out and do fucked up shit, go figure.

[benjipwns]

YouTube is a shit platform and is complicit in this too.

[benjipwns]

Why do you have to resort to name calling?

I’m just saying that the blame should not be shifted from the true culprit in this tragedy. It’s moronic.

But okay, side with the echo chamber group-think mob.

which is?

Why do you have to resort to name calling?

I’m just saying that the blame should not be shifted from the true culprit in this tragedy. It’s moronic.

But okay, side with the echo chamber group-think mob.

Oh wow.

Why do you have to resort to name calling?

I’m just saying that the blame should not be shifted from the true culprit in this tragedy. It’s moronic.

But okay, side with the echo chamber group-think mob.

Dude just stop trolling

Why do you have to resort to name calling?

I’m just saying that the blame should not be shifted from the true culprit in this tragedy. It’s moronic.

But okay, side with the echo chamber group-think mob.

FUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK OFFFFFFF

Why do you have to resort to name calling?

I’m just saying that the blame should not be shifted from the true culprit in this tragedy. It’s moronic.

But okay, side with the echo chamber group-think mob.

Man all the keywords coming out now. Got the group think, echo chamber. Tell us how you really feel.

[benjipwns]

More of these cowardly fucks making excuses for abhorrent behavior. The amount of stupidity on display here is astounding

Hopefully someday this idiot gets coming what he deserves as in lots of bad karma and events happening to him so he finally learns something or be miserable so we can enjoy.

How tf does pewdiepie have anything to do with literally murdering people. If a terrorist blows up a bus and yells go lakers should i presume lebron’s feet will be put to the fire?

HOW IS THERE SO MANY OF YOU

How tf does pewdiepie have anything to do with literally murdering people. If a terrorist blows up a bus and yells go lakers should i presume lebron’s feet will be put to the fire?

Ignorant fucking fool.

This thread is going about as badly as I expected.

How tf does pewdiepie have anything to do with literally murdering people. If a terrorist blows up a bus and yells go lakers should i presume lebron’s feet will be put to the fire?

You're a fucking idiot

Yeah the absolute state of this thread. If I didn't know any better I'd say we're back in the 90s, blaming Marylin Manson for all things terrible.


I can't believe some people are actually accusing PDP of being the main enabler of this horrible shit.

FUUUUCKKK OOOOFOFFFFFFf

You're in a thread about a mass shooting that has left dozens dead, and all you care about is your fucking toys. Video game 'enthusiast' forum or not, that's exceptionally fucked up.

Yeah the absolute state of this thread. If I didn't know any better I'd say we're back in the 90s, blaming Marylin Manson for all things terrible.


I can't believe some people are actually accusing PDP of being the main enabler of this horrible shit.

And so are you. A fucking idiot twat.

Yeah. Anyone who accepts Pewdiepie trying to distance himself aren't to be trusted.

This shooting was no ones fault but the sick fuck(s) who committed it. Period.

Lol. You're an idiot.

Take a fucking sociology class or even a history class. Fucking clueless shit you constantly keep posting is exhausting. People are creatures of their environment.

VIDEO GAME DISCUSSION FORUM

[Momo]

Blame Islam for people declaring Jihad - fuck you racists
Blame pewdiepie for people shooting up a mosque - hey it makes sense

[benjipwns]

There is no single through line from PDP to this mass shooter but PDP contributes to the pitcher of water that makes up the kool-aid that people just like these maniacs drink from. Just like Alex Jones & Beitbart & Milo Y. & Richard Spencer, and on.

#YANGGANG

[benjipwns]

this dude is the best


still going lololol

[benjipwns]

Where do you guys come from?

These sickos really love to come out right on cue. Just sick.

Then go back to NeoGAF/4chan or whatever shithole you crawled out of.

You forgot to tip your fedora, you stupid piece of shit.

Oh my god.

I hope no-one looks up to you. Like a child or anything.

Eat shit

now, see, these are the people I'd give a timeout to

i think we'd survive the 24 hours without their valuable contributions to discussion

[counterhit]

Where do you guys come from?

These sickos really love to come out right on cue. Just sick.

Then go back to NeoGAF/4chan or whatever shithole you crawled out of.

You forgot to tip your fedora, you stupid piece of shit.

Oh my god.

I hope no-one looks up to you. Like a child or anything.

now, see, these are the people I'd give a timeout to

i think we'd survive the 24 hours without their valuable contributions to discussion

On GAF didn't you get a slap on the wrist for saying stuff like this even if you were one of the good guys?

[Momo]

timeout? I'd permaban their accounts and ips then forward the ips to a russian hacking farm to make sure they are ddosed daily.

[benjipwns]

PDP is part of the right-wing media that radicalizes people to become these Nazi fucks. He's a gateway into the bullshit. People usually don't just jump right into the deep end. He's implicitly part of the problem.

He isn't the only person who perpetuates the rhetoric that killers like this eat up. But he needs to be talked about and held accountable because he has a large audience and a large amount of sway within the world that gamers like ourselves walk in.

Speaking of Mansons, I guess you feel Charles Manson shouldn't have gone to prison, since he didn't actually murder anyone either.

There are different degrees of responsibilty when it comes to public figures with a lot of power, and to excuse them of any need to take responsibility for the effect their words and actions have on their followers is incredibly naïve at best. Do you really believe CEO's don't have any involvement in the scandals their companies are plagued with?

i think they're actually getting worse

[benjipwns]

Hah God damn you'r such an idiot that it transcends stupidity and enters into pitiful humor. Like an incel

said the secret word!!!!

[Momo]

PDP has a cult just like Charles Manson, I see it now, it all makes sense 

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/using-boys-to-speak-to-everyone-really-needs-to-stop-and-this-is-why.105159/post-18851647
now this is a post

[benjipwns]

If a mod could edit into the title a notice about threadmarks I'd appreciate it. I put it in the op but that may not be enough.

I think they should just lock the thread and tell you guys to stop being lunatics threatening their cash flow.

[benjipwns]

Lots of trolls in this thread. Accounts 2 years old, sub 100 posts, just asking questions. Shits as old as time.

Definitely not alt-accounts that are too scared to post on their real account. Nope.

[Momo]

benji lets just chill out on these fucks for a bit, they deserve mockery but I fear for our very own souls, there's only so long you can gaze at the abyss before you become it.

[benjipwns]

User banned (2 weeks): Trolling repeatedly

PewDiePie is a sick goddamn idiot

But anyone throwing any blame on him for this is hypocritical as fuck, this is EXACTLY like blaming violence on video games.

User Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying hate speech.

Trying to assign responsibility to pewdiepie for this, is as dumb as blaming Jodie foster for when Reagan was shot.

User Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying hate speech.

How tf does pewdiepie have anything to do with literally murdering people. If a terrorist blows up a bus and yells go lakers should i presume lebron’s feet will be put to the fire?

User Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying hate speech.

It is absolutely self-evident that this horrible act would never have happened without the influence of Pewdiepie. Just as JD Salinger is directly to blame for the murder of John Lennon. Therefore the good people in this thread are completely justified in attacking and insulting those who would claim otherwise.

/s

*cackles*

[benjipwns]

PDP needs to understand the responsibility of fame and so must YouTube, streamers and Google. There must be a new set of rules to not let the idiots like PDP fester their services when they cross the line.

Responsibility.

Zero tolerance for this garbage. It doesn’t need to exist, period.

People have the need to connect to, to blame, to point fingers at and it's saddening how emotionally charged responses are.
It's apparent people cannot discusses this like grown ups, it's a one way street.

Fuck offfffff

Fuck you PewDiePie. And fuck everyone, even here, that argued and still does in how we should ignore these trolls and let them be. There's only one place where these trolls should be and is rotting in a prison.

[Jansen]

So what did Jansen do?

Yeah, what exactly happened?

Spamming nonsense.  He was warned and posted a dumb thread to whine about it.  I banned him for a few days.  He's not perm'd or anything...he just hasn't come back. 

Lol all I did was fuck with ya a bit and you got mad af and banned me.

Suck it weak ass twinkie 

[Transhuman]

Isn't a cool young dude the best kind of gay guy to be?

 

Jansen why you gotta do me like that

[benjipwns]

holy shit at the bans popping up in this thread, their mods are almost as bad as ours, at least ours are honest

[PogiJones]

bork to Jenkem:

[tuna_love]

 i thought pdp hated jews, why would he train this young man to kill muslims 

[benjipwns]

Imagine being PDP right now. Imagine being a greedy piece of shit leech who's claim to fame is profiting and building an empire off the back of other people's work. Imagine you become so successful that you feel like you can say and do whatever you want. And then you wake up to the horrific realisation that the people you encourage and endorse are the kind of people capable of mass murder. He may not be responsible, but he is complicit and if he has even the slightly shred of human decency this should haunt him to his grave.

[benjipwns]

Man, it makes me wish for the time when PDP was just some really popular screaming schmuck instead of this "Secret" Alt-right Propaganda tool he has become.

It pains me that this dipshit has so much influence over so many children.

[benjipwns]

PDP has a cult just like Charles Manson, I see it now, it all makes sense 

I blame PDP for his contribution here for the same reasons Jim Jones is responsible for what happened at Jonestown, even though his followers "chose" to do what they did.

There's directed, intentional influence along the exact lines of the resulting action, right down to being flippant about mass ethnic killings; PDP is a figure who relishes in his influence over these audiences, and the cult-like following is obvious in any setting where people are critical of him.

[benjipwns]

I feel kind of sick to my stomach and just done with the gaming community in general. From gamergate all the way up to this, this is the kind of shit we placate and indirectly support. Fuck that.

There needs to be a deplatforming campaign against pewdie at this point. There's blood on Google's hands.

Even more dangerous IMO is what THQ Nordic did. They put 8chan into the headlines of the same major gaming outlets I would have been visiting when I was 10 or 11. Think about Notch, the creator of Minecraft. Imagine a young kid who loves Minecraft and goes snooping around on google to learn who made this wonderful game they play every day, and then finds the shit he posts on his Twitter TL.

this is the greatest thread of all time of today

lol they even accidentally banned someone on the right side of the hill to die on

[Transhuman]

They get that "subscribe to pewdipie" is a meme right?

And it accomplished exactly what the gunman intended, which was to get them to talk about it, and sow discord and anger?

[Jenkem]

not sure what people are supposed to do in a thread about making fun of REE than make fun of how REE reacts to a disgusting and tragic event. no one is making fun of the disgusting and tragic event*. no one is making fun of the victims*

*i'm still a page behind so all this may be lies

[benjipwns]

Gotta love all the alt accounts that are coming out of the woods.
Post in your main account fucking cowards !
PDP is responsible for this, since the beggining the majority of his audience was internet shit lords and now they are becoming terrorist with the help of him, 4chan, 8chan and the various alrt right media.

This thread shows that we still have such a long way to go. So many obvious assholes making excuses for hate and racism. It's just so depressing. But here's to all in this thread who stood up against the tide of hate and ignorance and complacency. Keep up the fight.

Era cleaning itself from all the long disguised, alt-right tools who can't hold back their true selves. Good.

Also, when is Google going to obliterate this fucking asshole's channel from existence? Ah sorry, let me guess... "Freedom of speech" right?

like the war it is based on, ResetERA.com stands on the frontlines

[benjipwns]

PDP didn't make the guy pull the trigger, but he clearly is implicated

[benjipwns]

don't invite any of these pro-terrorism scumbags over here Pogi

this isn't a place for pro-murder cults

unless they're sponsored by Yum! Brands

[Jenkem]

all this benjiposting


pogi you shouldn't have wasted your daily allowance of careposts 

[benjipwns]

this is my new favorite ban:

[VomKriege]

Sadly, the shooter forgot to mention RLM.

[benjipwns]

Let's not feed the trolls. They won't be lasting long here, and I'd prefer them not to get the reactions that they're hoping for.

this is beautiful

[PogiJones]

all this benjiposting


pogi you shouldn't have wasted your daily allowance of careposts 

I only get a refill once a week 

Good to see you finally came back from your ban though

[benjipwns]

i seriously can't fucking believe that the staff actually have taken the position that PEWDIEPIE is complicit in a mass murder ala Charles Manson/Jim Jones

parody is dead forever, there's really nowhere to go from this, not even watching them tear each other apart over the primaries

[Averon]

So just disagreeing that Pewdepie wants people dead is ban worthy? 

[benjipwns]

no wonder the moderators are losing it:

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
The other threads were locked because they weren't being used to discuss the documentary or Michael Jackson so much as they were being used to take shots at members across threads or try to rile up trouble for the staff. We are looking at rebooting the main thread. We have been working tirelessly under high stress to moderate these topics and have actioned many posters who violated our policies.

If this thread proves unmanageable it'll go the same way as the others, and that serves no one in the end. Get back on topic.

[benjipwns]

Let that be an actual lesson he understands. Your voice has a huge influence when you have millions of followers. He's been denying that responsibility for too long.

No thank you. Now's not the time for him to somehow "learn". His decisions were intentional and the facts were in front of him. Even today his apology is pathetic. He needs to be deplatformed NOW. There are deaths directly attributed now.

[benjipwns]

How hard is it for these people to see that their words/social media can carry such a weight.

That would mean actually genuienly empathizing with the struggles of marginalized people.

i mean i just give up

[benjipwns]

I CANT STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW I DONT WANT KIDS
https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-anyone-else-not-want-kids.105093/

Anyone actively seeking to conceive in 2019 is either willfully ignorant of the climate crisis that will irrevocably destroy any semblance of global stability within that child’s lifetime, and possibly before that child even reaches adulthood, or they’re just selfish bastards who don’t care.

[benjipwns]

I truly don’t mean this to be condescending, but I do not know of a single person who is up to date on climate science who believes we will actually pull through it without resorting to magical CCS technology that may never exist. Instead they talk about mitigation, preserving as much of the quality of life to which we are accustomed for as long as we can. Environmental hospice. I mean just last month we learned that stratocumulus clouds will vanish entirely by 2100 and tack another 8 degrees of warming on top of the 4 caused by direct heating alone prior to that event. That does not even account for about a dozen other feedback loops that we know about, to say nothing of the ones we don’t. By the end of the normal lifespan of a child born today, we are on track for a world fundamentally incompatible with human life, full stop.

Ha, and PewDiePie thinks he's going to get away with this!

[benjipwns]

Hmmm... When does just being a realist get confused with depression. Is it a mental illness to take a look at the state of the planet and our global society and where we are headed and maybe think it might not be the wisest or most moral of choices to bring another resource gobbler into the world... Is that mental illness? I swear half the problems with humanity right now is that we are so blasé about everything and never grasp the impact we have on the world and each other, and so it continues.

And no, my partner and myself don't want kids. We would rather be "selfish" and look after ourselves and give ourselves a good life rather than bring up more kids who struggled like we did in youth, and into a much worse world to boot.

If I had kids probably they will be fighting for resources and water thanks to the climate change so no thank you.

My wife really wants a kid, and wants one soon. I don't want to make a person who might die of famine in a developed nation in their lifetime.

[Potato]

I CANT STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW I DONT WANT KIDS
https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-anyone-else-not-want-kids.105093/

I'm actually quite glad that so much of that forum will never reproduce, either voluntarily or involuntarily. The less young impressionable minds they get access to the better.

[benjipwns]

oh god what if PewDiePie has kids

and they go to work for THQNordic (assuming it survives the ResetERA.com led boycott)

[VomKriege]

This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?

Ah verified Ben, unfortunate. Should have read the thread.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pewdiepie-attempts-to-distance-himself-from-christchurch-mosque-shooter-who-pledged-support-read-threadmarks.105466/page-13#post-18868279

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/google-entering-the-home-console-race-is-not-a-good-thing-for-the-consumers-the-developers-or-the-industry-and-art-of-video-games-ethical-issues.105388/

[Don Rumata]

The last 24 hours feel like a bad hallucination.
The fuck is going on?