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[nachobro]

he posted about games shutting down the day it happened. also pcgaming is kind of a shithole so

[thisismyusername]

Oh, I know. I just wanted to post the subreddit drama thread about it.

cream said something about it being the baltimore public school system

All right, (code word) I'll cut him some slack. 


Edit: But still, his computer should have a spell check on it.

y'all think the computers in baltimore have spellcheck???

Fucking Chrome has built in spell check. WTF, nicca.

[nachobro]

slayven is a dumb

[marrec]

slayven is a dumb

Nah, ability to spell or articulate yourself isn't indicative of intelligence. 

[nachobro]

slayven is a dumb and a mushmouth

[Joe Molotov]

Oh, I know. I just wanted to post the subreddit drama thread about it.

cream said something about it being the baltimore public school system

All right, (code word) I'll cut him some slack. 


Edit: But still, his computer should have a spell check on it.

y'all think the computers in baltimore have spellcheck???

Fucking Chrome has built in spell check. WTF, nicca.

Y'all think Baltimore Chrome has built-in spellcheck?

[Occam]

slayven is a dumb

Nah, ability to spell or articulate yourself isn't indicative of intelligence. 

After many years of exposure to stupidity on the internet, I think it is safe to conclude there absolutely is a correlation between the inability to use proper spelling and grammar and a lack of intelligence.

Intelligence includes a thirst for knowledge and the ability to learn.

[Drainage]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-how-biowares-anthem-went-wrong-jason-schreier-article.109134/page-24#post-19481010

I know a lot of you will disagree with this - but I have a feeling Jason loves reporting on the misery of developers. Don’t @ me, that’s just how I feel and why I don’t really like him - and I’m entitled to my opinion. I know a lot of you here like him.

With that said, yeah, even I - who had fun in Anthem and defended it - have to say this makes sense of the whole trainwreck.

I don't particularly have any feelings for Schreier, but I will @ you for the stupidity (and possibly bad faith) of this take in a thread full of really stupid hot takes about a very serious subject. He obviously doesn't like it, but happens to be the one willing to go after these stories in depth to bring the truth out. This is beyond liking him or not, you're accusing him of being something a lot worse than just someone you don't agree with.

He's literally doing his job as a journalist. Thankfully someone did.

You don't get to post stupid ass shit and run away with your fingers in your ears... It's the same reason drive-by shit takes aren't appreciated

what the hell is this

So your only take from the article is that he loves reporting on the misery of developers? really?

Don't you think this is a problem that affects the entire industry and some studios/publishers need to be called out for it? We need more articles like this one.

Don't worry you can read the happy version.

http://blog.bioware.com/2019/04/02/anthem-game-development/

Do people reporting on wars love reporting on the misery of civilians and soldiers?

What a weird take to make.

You are absolutely right that a lot of people will disagree with you. Sure you are entitled to your opinion as well but god damn dude, you should probably back it up with something other then your gut feeling.
The guy has continuously reports on the working environment of the gaming industry and it is not his fault that the industry is utterly fucked when talking about almost all major AAA studios.

So you don't like him because he reports the facts? I am having trouble understanding what you are trying to say here.

And yeah you are entitled to your opinion but if you are going to insist on having a bad opinion you need to at least try and back it up.

I'm entitled to my opinion that this is the most dumbass thing I've read in a while and this is resetera.

Man doing his job = Person loves misery of others!

"I have a misinformed opinion with no real evidence, but I'm not willing to change my stance with any information that contradicts my opinion so please don't @ me."

yeah? do you think journalists that work at large newspapers take some kind of joy out of reporting on massive scandals too? you think the people that exposed the opioid scandal enjoyed the idea of all that suffered because of corporate greed?

these problems NEED to be exposed. this is the only way the industry will ever change. imputing some kind of joy in exposing how people are suffering in the industry to one of the only journalists worth a damn is not only baseless and inane, it's downright malicious

when ur take is so bad that u respond to criticism before it happens

This is a terrible take. Things are never going to improve if the industry's bad practices aren't exposed

More members attacking Jason who is another member & a pretty damn decent video game journalist to put it mildly, is a terrible look. Some of y'all really out here looking for blood it seems. Terrible look.

Just making sure to @ you for a stupid, stupid take. Jesus Christ.

Ah yes, how dare he expose the working conditions behind a product you enjoy. He should shut up so you can enjoy the byproduct of those miserable conditions of those who made it without having to think about how it was created.

I've definitely seen more than one member with the same sentiments in this thread. Just not a good look when you're going after an established & pretty respected journo in the industry like that.

Wasn’t (read: isn’t, I suppose) he one of the major voices on the media side advocating for unionization and workers’ rights issues in favor of the developers...?

I'm sure he does enjoy breaking stories that no one else is able or willing to tell. The thing is, these stories need to be told if there is any hope of ending these kind of horrible working conditions and mismanagement.

If you are trying to suggest he enjoys the actual suffering of developers, then you are making a false and pretty gross accusation and showing how little you know about him and his work. Reporting on bad working conditions doesn't make him responsible for bad working conditions. You are shooting the messenger.

Yeah, won't someone think of the poor corporations that create the shitty work environments like the one at Bioware? Damn you, Jason, for having the gall to besmirch the good names of those people by reporting on the troubled development of a flawed game.

Super fucking embarrassing take, man.

Nonsense statement of what the fuck all around, excellent work with this post. I'm convinced.

"Lets not talk about problems and cover them up, people who report on them are bad, wanting to shed light on bullshit is reveling in suffering"

..and what a bad thing to bring to light.. what?

I mean, yeah, look at the response the article got - you wonder why?

We've been hearing for years about Frostbite issues and EA still forces their devs to utilize it. Can one of these games journalists talk to EA and get a response as to why? Besides the generic in-house system, less cost, etc. The downsides seem to F A R outweigh any positives.

What the fuck..... really?

You certainly are entitled and it's a dumb fucking opinion.

This is the worst post I've seen on Era.

That's a weird stance to take on this. If people don't report on this nothing will change.

Great article.

You probably had enough people @-ing you by now but here's another one.

Fuck off. Telling stories like this is important to stopping them. Publishers have been getting away with treating their employees like dirt and literally hurting them for far too long because no one was talking about it. If there's enough of a discussion than maybe some people may actually do something and unionise so they can be treated decently. I don't know much about Jason but how the fuck you can look at the great work he does and not like him? He's actually a games journalist doing his job and hopefully making the industry a better place.

Its like blaming someone for exposing women getting abused *well shit the guy must fucking love breaking up relationships!* There is alot of scum and shit in the gaming industry ain't Jasons fault he is doing his god damn job as a journalist jesus dude.

I have some disagreements with some of his personal opinions, but the article is well written and researched. There is absolutely nothing wrong with shedding light on this since a LOT of people were looking forward to Anthem and a lot of people were disappointed with the results. I'd never doubt his work ethic or motives, dude genuinely loves gaming and his work is to the benefit of it... not against it.

I'm @ing you for the stupid hot take on someone's character.

The gaming industry is not perfect, EA is not perfect, BioWare isn't perfect. The reason we like Jason is because he's one of the view journalists actually airing the dirty laundry that needs to be aired out regarding the shitty practices of this industry.

Journalism doesn't exist to paint pretty lights on the subject matter you're researching. If you believe such then you've a flawed perspective of what news/journalism is.

Now this is shilling

what the fuck did I just read?

No he reports of the misery developers are in. Most people working at a developer cant be outspoken in fear of losing their jobs. It is the management who fucked this up, have you even read the article? Most people are glad this is getting attention to highlight the terrible working conditions. They wanted DA: Inquisition to fail because the work condition were unbearable. I applaud Jason for doing this, more media and news outlets should cover this.

And while im at it, the same shit with that stupid phrase vote with your wallet. I used to have the same mindset, but you are actively hurting a studio financially while the management, publishers and shareholder are the ones to blame for the bad decision making. And what happens when a studio closes and everyone gets fired. The management and shareholders walk away with a big paycheck and can get a job instantly somewhere else. And we lose our favorite franchises.

Im getting mad at the fact that it feels like there is nothing we as gamers can do about it. dont buy game - studio is fucked. buy game - higher ups get their bonus and continue with the same practices in their other games.

The idea that Jason has to seek out miserable developers to suit his own narrative is absurd.

Developers are miserable because much of this industry, as it stands, makes developers miserable. Jason loves video games like we all do. But he's spoken with enough developers to realize that the current AAA games industry is not sustainable. It's easy to take what we have for granted, but Jason has proved, not through speculation but thorough journalism, that things can't keep chugging along indefinitely. If major industry-wide changes aren't made within the next several years, it will eventually reach a breaking point.

He's revealing the truth about game development in the industry especially with AAA publishers. The misery just happens to be there.

A whole lotta uneducated bullshit followed by “don’t @ me about how dumb this post is because opinions”

What kind of a hot take is that? If the development went fine and dandy and the game turned out amazing, there'd be little to no need for a piece like this. Jason just wants to bring to light the conditions people experience while working in the industry, like a good journalist would.

After this piece, I finally decided to pick up his book. Can't wait to dig in.

"Don't @ me, bro"

How fragile and afraid of criticism do you have to be to pull the "it's my opinion so don't you dare comment on it" line?

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[thisismyusername]

Oh, I know. I just wanted to post the subreddit drama thread about it.

cream said something about it being the baltimore public school system

All right, (code word) I'll cut him some slack. 


Edit: But still, his computer should have a spell check on it.

y'all think the computers in baltimore have spellcheck???

Fucking Chrome has built in spell check. WTF, nicca.

Y'all think Baltimore Chrome has built-in spellcheck?

...Yes? Baltimore computers could be from the early 00's and still have spellcheck.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1113104887452196864

Ungrateful fucks, you clearly did them all a huge favour, amirite?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

ADD BIOWARE TO THE LIST, YOU COWARDS

[marrec]

Jason Schreier is smelling his own farts too much, needs to pull it back some.

[BisMarckie]

Jason Schreier calling himself a journalist.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Wether it is intentional or not is up for debate but it’s clearly offensive to Asian women.

Why? Because for them it represents how westerners objectify Asian women as sexual deviants that crave Caucasian males, it is a stereotype that Asian women find offensive. Is it offensive to you? Of course not, but that’s not how being offended works. Is it racist? Absolutely. In the same way that black face is racist, to a lesser extent, this is also racist.

This isn't about portraying anyone as sexual deviants, nor does it portray Asian women as craving Caucasian males. So to find this add racist, you not only have to apply a stereotype on the people shown that doesn't exist where this ad was made but you also have to apply meaning to it that isn't evident from the add itself.

My point is: A german ad for the german market doesn't have to and, in my opinion, shouldn't be asked to be marketed and made according to social norms and stereotypes that are only known on the other end of the world. This isn't about showing Blackface where some feign ignorance to try to act like it's any less racist in Europe, while it's obviously not. As a german, I have seriously not even once heard of the stereotype of Asians "craving" Caucasian Males or that Asian women tend to be "sexual deviants". I just don't think that this is a thing here. So you'd have to first ask a society with no such negative stereotypes to bring those stereotypes into their societal consciousness only to then try not to apply those stereotypes which originally weren't even a thing.

What I can see is making note of the fact that different stereotypes and societal norms exist in the world and being amused at imagining how not OK such a piece of media would be in my country. I do that all the time consuming US media. What I can't see is asking those countries to conform to the societal norms I'm used to, even though those pieces of media have nothing to do with the stereotypes I know, aren't produced for my market and aren't intended for anyone who would adhere to or reinforce these stereotypes.

Bull Fucking Shit. You have Korean women in Korea that are not part of the diaspora talking about how fucked up it is and you think Deutschland is somehow exempt from having racist stereotypes about Asians in its culture? Sorry not sorry, but this doesn't pass the sniff test.

What? No. Of course germany has racist stereotypes about Asian in its culture. But this stereotype, the one being talked about here just doesn't exist here. How can you, as someone who doesn't actually live here and has no real idea about what stereotypes do and don't exist, argue differently? You have no idea if you don't live in germany.

seems like a very reasonable post, addressing cultural relativity, cross-cultural norms and expectations, and the expectation that all media should be made with the expectation of a global audience at all times

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[Straight Edge]

slayven

Can you really call it a typo when it comes to Slayven?  The dude is non-fluent in english.  Maybe I'm a fucking dick because he's from a non-english speaking country.



If he's from a spanish speaking nation I'll stop making fun of him forever.


Edit: or maybe he's a drug addict and I also feel bad.

He definitely has a southern twang accent. And it takes him a whole minute to complain about white people.

[Joe Molotov]

Jason Schreier calling himself a journalist.

He's the closest thing there is to one in the vidya world. He actually does some research instead of just hot takes and paid promotion.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1113104887452196864

Ungrateful fucks, you clearly did them all a huge favour, amirite?

I don't know what he expects. Why would they respond positively to an article that presents their studio as a shitshow? Whether it's true or not doesn't even factor into that.

[BisMarckie]

Jason Schreier calling himself a journalist.

He's the closest thing there is to one in the vidya world. He actually does some research instead of just hot takes and paid promotion.

That's fair, he is still a pompous bitch. Way too pompous for someone working at failing Kotaku.

[nachobro]

because he's the type of dunce that thinks an off center headshot with his mouth hanging open makes for an excellent professional twitter profile picture so of course he would assume his profession and articles deserve respect from everyone, including the people he shits on.

[Joe Molotov]

Jason Schreier calling himself a journalist.

He's the closest thing there is to one in the vidya world. He actually does some research instead of just hot takes and paid promotion.

That's fair, he is still a pompous bitch. Way too pompous for someone working at failing Kotaku.

He also looks like a high school math teacher that gets bullied by his students.

[thisismyusername]

He also looks like a high school math teacher that gets bullied by his students.

...So his regular Kotaku persona, then?

[Drainage]

Jason Schreier calling himself a journalist.

He's the closest thing there is to one in the vidya world. He actually does some research instead of just hot takes and paid promotion.

I can't disagree but his self-promotion is grating. I don't know if he really even realizes he does it but there is a lot of me, myself and I in all of his work. Which isn't a good look for a real journalist. But he's the best we've got.

I also think he is careless in projecting the thoughts and feelings of a handful of anonymous sources across entire companies and workforces, which is something he does on a consistent basis. Sometimes it is necessary and often, as in the case of this tweet, it is not.
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1113254146067402752

Several people means nothing more than >1 but now the entirety of Bioware is saddened since the response to *my* article was "disheartening". Why does Jason deserve a response and why does that response need to hail his writing as the recipe for success at the company? Give me a fucking break.

[PogiJones]

slayven is a dumb

Nah, ability to spell or articulate yourself isn't indicative of intelligence. 

It's true that most smart people aren't grammar and spelling nerds. Everyone misspells sometimes, and a lot of very smart people misspell a lot.

But I think once you fall below the threshold of writing competence, you find a strong correlation with people who have a hard time learning. It's not dispositive, but the general correlation is there.

That said, Slayven to me mostly just verbally has a stutter and doesn't enunciate very well, and in writings he misspells things a lot. I wouldn't say he falls below that threshold of competence. Well, maybe he's on the edge of it.

[Momo]

Ben Shapiro is on Joe Rogan right now, we're about to have a salt feast friends

[Himu]

Remember the time J. Shreier made an article about how he didn’t like Dragon Quest because you had to talk to a priest for five seconds and it took “too long” to save? Yeah.

[Himu]

https://kotaku.com/maybe-this-is-why-dragon-quest-never-took-off-in-the-we-1786573268

One of the most pathetic gaming articles I’ve ever read.

[Himu]

Doesn’t bother me.

[Momo]

If it's not on Suikoden castle level of annoyance, it's not even going to make me raise a brow

[Himu]

I understand not having auto-save or save-anywhere as a game design decision but super repetitive dialog for things you do dozens or hundreds of times in a game is just bad game design.   Should be a "skip one line of dialog" thing to get to the task at most (like Fallout games when you go to a vendor.)

Maybe because it’s charming? Think about that? What if you run into a crime ridden pit and a hobo is the priest? Or a monster village where a slime is the priest? Think about that that? Nope.

[PogiJones]

Errr

..

[marrec]

I PLAY games.

literal nazi

[Momo]

I understand not having auto-save or save-anywhere as a game design decision but super repetitive dialog for things you do dozens or hundreds of times in a game is just bad game design.   Should be a "skip one line of dialog" thing to get to the task at most (like Fallout games when you go to a vendor.)

Maybe because it’s charming? Think about that? What if you run into a crime ridden pit and a hobo is the priest? Or a monster village where a slime is the priest? Think about that that? Nope.

I PLAY games.

mods help

[Nuitangg]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-local-walmart-has-enacted-ridiculous-security-measures.107081/page-4#post-19502702

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I can't check era at the moment.


Can someone post me kirblar quote so I can laugh?

[Momo]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-local-walmart-has-enacted-ridiculous-security-measures.107081/page-4#post-19502702

 

if I worked retail and I saw that fuckwad in my shop I'd ask security to go full airport customs on him

[Nuitangg]

Slayven kinda sounds like Wings of Redemption.

[Momo]

Maybe he's one of those dudes from the alt-left shoplifting fauxreddit 

[nachobro]

the people stopping you to check your receipt are easy to avoid, you just say "no thanks" and keep walking. problem solved.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://kotaku.com/maybe-this-is-why-dragon-quest-never-took-off-in-the-we-1786573268

One of the most pathetic gaming articles I’ve ever read.

That time he took a shitty cheap shot at vanillaware, then U-Turned into a "I just want to have A Conversation" was pretty bad too.

[Tiops]

I PLAY games.

Yikes

[nachobro]

That time he took a shitty cheap shot at vanillaware, then U-Turned into a "I just want to have A Conversation" was pretty bad too.

kamitani calling him gay after that was pretty hilarious

[thetylerrob]

Don't forget that time when he was being pedantic as fuck about Bethesda's engine not being a problem in an attempt to own the youtube community.

[marrec]

Man anytime I've ever been asked to show my receipt at Wal-Mart, they barely even glance in one or two bags and push you out the door. Those people don't give a shit if you're stealing and don't want to check your shit.

When I'm shopping by myself:

*hand them the receipt, they glance at it and wave me on with a smile*

When I'm shopping with my fiance:

*checker locks eyes with us from half a mile away and moves to stop us form leaving* I'll just need to check this... *spends 10 minutes confirming everything on the receipt and checking in every closed container* Alright you're free to go...

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-have-a-question-for-ya-whats-heavier-a-kilogramme-of-steel-or-a-kilogramme-of-feathers.109386/post-19503632

Mods plz lock

Not until we get the answer.

this is the topic you draw the line on locking with a "nothing more productive to discuss" cop out, huh?

era mods really do think they're like

[marrec]

No one cares about your personal anecdotes you giant dad piece of shit

Someone out there cares

[BisMarckie]

Jet fuel can‘t melt feathers.

[BisMarckie]

No one cares about your personal anecdotes you giant dad piece of shit

Someone out there cares

Which store? What payment method? #totallynotbenji

[marrec]

No one cares about your personal anecdotes you giant dad piece of shit

Someone out there cares

Literally no one cares about you or anything you have to say

You really care don't you 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Man anytime I've ever been asked to show my receipt at Wal-Mart, they barely even glance in one or two bags and push you out the door. Those people don't give a shit if you're stealing and don't want to check your shit.

When I'm shopping by myself:

*hand them the receipt, they glance at it and wave me on with a smile*

When I'm shopping with my fiance:

*checker locks eyes with us from half a mile away and moves to stop us form leaving* I'll just need to check this... *spends 10 minutes confirming everything on the receipt and checking in every closed container* Alright you're free to go...

all the proof necessary that walmart is run by misogynistic incels, you should organise a boycott on era

[marrec]

Who shops at wal-mart anyway it's for the poors

[Momo]

annihilated(marrec);

[marrec]

Poor Ben Pack, he's upset "the discourse"

Now we're going to have to hear patronizing takes from Leigh Alexander about how we've already figured all this out already and new voices who haven't figured it out should just shut up.

[nachobro]

being shit at a game isn't a "disability" lmao. gtfo

[Himu]

The disabled argument is ridiculous and this is literally the first time I've EVER seen a hard game called out for not being conscious of disabled game players. It's so fucking desperate and they're reaching so, so far down their sjw assholes.

[BisMarckie]

https://twitter.com/PackBenPack/status/1113467036389113856

 

Making Ben look like the sane person in the room is quite the feat.

[BisMarckie]

Ben Pack is a white male.

[Himu]

"why can't every game be for everyone? this seems gatekeep-y to me"

 



How does it feel like to be a SCRUB?

[nachobro]

while i agree that games should be accessible that means more "there should be games for everyone" rather than "every game should be for everyone" to me.

[BisMarckie]

being shit at a game isn't a "disability" lmao. gtfo

I don‘t know man....