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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34800 on: August 05, 2019, 02:32:13 PM »
Do you know what "I need guns in case I need to show my political disagreement with the government, thats why its in the constitution" looks like in practice?
A dude writing a fucking political manifesto before going and shooting a bunch of people with the vague hope it will start an insurrection.

Boredfrom

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34801 on: August 05, 2019, 02:32:32 PM »
I need a version of the "what if we make the planet better for nothing" comic but with shutting down 8chan/gab/daily stormer and "what if we make the internet better for nothing"

If you don't believe that these are the actions of a coordinated group using these websites to communicate their plans, then doing that does the exact same thing as thoughts and prayers does.

Fuck all.

"Oh, I see less people on the internet talking about violence" is as much a placebo for the actual fucking reasons mass shootings occur as "God will protect those who are worthy"

Eh... that is the whole reason why I’m mad at 8chan and I seriously doubt Marrec doesn’t get that.

I don’t disagree with you in the last part, but why bother with 8chan as they seem to bother even less about doing the minimum necessary and the user base seem to not mind that those groups use the site this way?

whenever this has come up, I personally raise an eyebrow at the 'need' for a site that gives less of a fuck than fucking 4chan, or the type of people who'll post there, but if you shut down all the 'obvious bad' websites today, what do you shut down after the next mass shooting?
because shutting those down won't so shit to prevent that.

I personally don’t want 4chan closing, I don’t even want KiwiFarms gone even if they are approaching to the 8chan singularity. And I agree is a placebo to an extent. My issue is stuff like what BikerJesus posted yesterday, hiding behind Free Speech and saying BS like “you don’t have identity so the content of your comment matters”. Is all BS, this are still communities that can be manipulated and used for a group of assholes. If the community of that site at large cannot see this and the staff is unwilling to change it... well, good riddance. I like Free Speech, but I hate the people hiding behind it to be assholes, specially if they start to laugh about a mass shooting done by a regular.

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34802 on: August 05, 2019, 02:33:06 PM »
Do you know what can be effectively compared to removing easy access to guns?
Removing easy access to guns.

Alright lets ask Cloudflare to do that

Oop they can't but they can shut down 8chan maybe we should... naaaah, I'm done trying to do effective things

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34803 on: August 05, 2019, 02:34:56 PM »
Also, you brainlets, it's not like people think shutting down 8chan is the definitive victory against white supremacist violence. It's just an easy way to do SOMETHING to help stop it and the only argument against it seems to be "but it wont actually solve the problem" fucking duh it won't SOLVE the problem but hey lets give it a try because 8chan is LITERALLY USELESS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN RACIST GARBAGE god you'd think they're putting something in the water that's making people du-

oh god Alex Jones was right

agrajag

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34804 on: August 05, 2019, 02:37:40 PM »
I dunno, I'm with marrec on this one. From a purely utilitarian standpoint. Making the barrier of entry more difficult will lessen the number of people subjected to self-radicalization. Sure, it will still happen, and some kids will care enough to seek out shit on teh Dark Webz. Another thought, which is both naive and cynical is that maybe the Feds should monitor sites like 8chan and in that sense keeping them around is good as a honey pot. But then one might wonder where the sympathies of law enforcement officers typically lie.

Snoopycat_

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34805 on: August 05, 2019, 02:38:29 PM »
Sort yourself out America. Everybody knows none of this foolishness would happen if Steven Seagal was President.

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34806 on: August 05, 2019, 02:38:46 PM »
Another thought, which is both naive and cynical is that maybe the Feds should monitor sites like 8chan and in that sense keeping them around is good as a honey pot. But then one might wonder where the sympathies of law enforcement officers typically lie.

This presupposes that the feds don't know where the racist idiots are gathering on other more protected and less visible sites.

Propagandhim

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34807 on: August 05, 2019, 02:40:32 PM »
I agree with Marrec.  What we need is an act of resistance against these radicalized white men.

https://twitter.com/cerothstein/status/1156660243675398144

james

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34808 on: August 05, 2019, 02:41:06 PM »
Marrec is right again.

Also, you dolts worried about free peaches need to calm the fuck down.

The Bore is an example of a positive community.

When someone says something bad, they get told to STFU.

Thats the kind of wholesome community feedback that doesnt exist at shitholes like the chans
:O

VomKriege

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34809 on: August 05, 2019, 02:41:11 PM »
WHY are we SHOUTING ?
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agrajag

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34810 on: August 05, 2019, 02:41:20 PM »
Another thought, which is both naive and cynical is that maybe the Feds should monitor sites like 8chan and in that sense keeping them around is good as a honey pot. But then one might wonder where the sympathies of law enforcement officers typically lie.

This presupposes that the feds don't know where the racist idiots are gathering on other more protected and less visible sites.

Yes, which is why I called it a naive thought. They just don't care, generally.

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34811 on: August 05, 2019, 02:41:36 PM »

VomKriege

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34812 on: August 05, 2019, 02:41:40 PM »
Yeah, STFU james.
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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34813 on: August 05, 2019, 02:42:08 PM »
I personally don’t want 4chan closing, I don’t even want KiwiFarms gone even if they are approaching to the 8chan singularity. And I agree is a placebo to an extent. My issue is stuff like what BikerJesus posted yesterday, hiding behind Free Speech and saying BS like “you don’t have identity so the content of your comment matters”. Is all BS, this are still communities that can be manipulated and used for a group of assholes. If the community of that site at large cannot see this and the staff is unwilling to change it... well, good riddance. I like Free Speech, but I hate the people hiding behind it to be assholes, specially if they start to laugh about a mass shooting done by a regular.

Sure, the cost of free speech is people saying heinous shit while using it as a shield, all in the knowledge that if they get their way one of the first things they'd get rid of is that same free speech.
Like the cost of democracy is people who want to do heinous shit having the potential to gain legitimate power.

Its not a slippery slope argument to object to erosions of freedoms, because theres plenty of people out there who dont like those freedoms and are actively trying to remove them.

Boredfrom

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34814 on: August 05, 2019, 02:42:30 PM »
I agree with Marrec.  What we need is an act of resistance against these radicalized white men.

https://twitter.com/cerothstein/status/1156660243675398144

 :mike

You know we are not talking about that kind of slacktivism.

Himu

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34815 on: August 05, 2019, 02:43:06 PM »
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I'm black so I'm speaking for me.

You're not gonna find us in the cesspools of the internet contemplating the murdering a ton of people...

Yet, people would still feel the most threatened by my appearance. What a world lol.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-shooting-in-dayton-ohio-update-9-dead.132832/page-26#post-23361152

I dunno, Nephente really hates those white babies and let people know it at RE.

thecoli.com regularly calls for race riots killing white people
IYKYK

Propagandhim

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34816 on: August 05, 2019, 02:43:27 PM »
I'm only here to shitpost.  Sorry.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34817 on: August 05, 2019, 02:43:31 PM »
Also, you brainlets, it's not like people think shutting down 8chan is the definitive victory against white supremacist violence. It's just an easy way to do SOMETHING to help stop it and the only argument against it seems to be "but it wont actually solve the problem" fucking duh it won't SOLVE the problem but hey lets give it a try because 8chan is LITERALLY USELESS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN RACIST GARBAGE god you'd think they're putting something in the water that's making people du-

oh god Alex Jones was right

so do something for the sake of saying you did something, all the while knowing the thing you did does fuck all to address the incident that just happened, or any future incidents of a similar nature?

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34818 on: August 05, 2019, 02:44:02 PM »
Another thought, which is both naive and cynical is that maybe the Feds should monitor sites like 8chan and in that sense keeping them around is good as a honey pot. But then one might wonder where the sympathies of law enforcement officers typically lie.

This presupposes that the feds don't know where the racist idiots are gathering on other more protected and less visible sites.

Yes, which is why I called it a naive thought. They just don't care, generally.

I'm sure they don't care enough to give it anything but the most paltry of budgets.

The only thing having these sites does is make it more accessible to media types and ERA types and racist types where the former two make it easier for the later to figure out this easy to access site exists.

ERA in every THQ thread: DID YOU KNOW THEY DID AN AMA ON 8chan, a website THAT HOSTS WHITE NATIONALISM

*8chan seo* thx bro

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34819 on: August 05, 2019, 02:45:25 PM »
I dunno, I'm with marrec on this one. From a purely utilitarian standpoint. Making the barrier of entry more difficult will lessen the number of people subjected to self-radicalization. Sure, it will still happen, and some kids will care enough to seek out shit on teh Dark Webz. Another thought, which is both naive and cynical is that maybe the Feds should monitor sites like 8chan and in that sense keeping them around is good as a honey pot. But then one might wonder where the sympathies of law enforcement officers typically lie.

I'm pretty sure the reason the UK porn ban never happened is because security services had a quiet word about them not particularly wanting a sizable chunk of the population all using encrypted VPNs by default

james

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34820 on: August 05, 2019, 02:45:30 PM »
Quote
I'm black so I'm speaking for me.

You're not gonna find us in the cesspools of the internet contemplating the murdering a ton of people...

Yet, people would still feel the most threatened by my appearance. What a world lol.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-shooting-in-dayton-ohio-update-9-dead.132832/page-26#post-23361152

I dunno, Nephente really hates those white babies and let people know it at RE.

thecoli.com regularly calls for race riots killing white people

Black people also overwhelmingly support Biden which is a direct assault on our future
:O

agrajag

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34821 on: August 05, 2019, 02:46:34 PM »
I'm only here to shitpost.  Sorry.

what happened to Pogi, did he defect to NeoGÄF again?

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34822 on: August 05, 2019, 02:46:48 PM »
Also, you brainlets, it's not like people think shutting down 8chan is the definitive victory against white supremacist violence. It's just an easy way to do SOMETHING to help stop it and the only argument against it seems to be "but it wont actually solve the problem" fucking duh it won't SOLVE the problem but hey lets give it a try because 8chan is LITERALLY USELESS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN RACIST GARBAGE god you'd think they're putting something in the water that's making people du-

oh god Alex Jones was right

so do something for the sake of saying you did something, all the while knowing the thing you did does fuck all to address the incident that just happened, or any future incidents of a similar nature?

You're not really addressing the point that having easily accessible nodes of racist idiots helps to eventually radicalize racist idiots through feedback loops of ever increasing extremism brought on by anonymous shitposting but okay lets say we get rid of 8chan and nothing happens the world is still a better place because we got rid of 8chan.

Boredfrom

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34823 on: August 05, 2019, 02:47:15 PM »
I personally don’t want 4chan closing, I don’t even want KiwiFarms gone even if they are approaching to the 8chan singularity. And I agree is a placebo to an extent. My issue is stuff like what BikerJesus posted yesterday, hiding behind Free Speech and saying BS like “you don’t have identity so the content of your comment matters”. Is all BS, this are still communities that can be manipulated and used for a group of assholes. If the community of that site at large cannot see this and the staff is unwilling to change it... well, good riddance. I like Free Speech, but I hate the people hiding behind it to be assholes, specially if they start to laugh about a mass shooting done by a regular.

Sure, the cost of free speech is people saying heinous shit while using it as a shield, all in the knowledge that if they get their way one of the first things they'd get rid of is that same free speech.
Like the cost of democracy is people who want to do heinous shit having the potential to gain legitimate power.

Its not a slippery slope argument to object to erosions of freedoms, because theres plenty of people out there who dont like those freedoms and are actively trying to remove them.

What fucking erosion of freedoms with 8chan. Stop painting this sites as seriously trying to fight for Free Speech when they seem not concerned about a fucking mass shooting. You think people would care about this “we are bastions of free speech” drivel if they had a person they love killed because a stupid racist incoherently bitches about immigrants and the Lorax.

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« Reply #34824 on: August 05, 2019, 02:47:32 PM »
Unpopular opinion:

Making it hard for 11 year olds to accidentally come across hardcore porn is not a bad policy
:O

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34825 on: August 05, 2019, 02:49:11 PM »
Unpopular opinion:

Making it hard for 11 year olds to accidentally come across hardcore porn is not a bad policy

 :respect

agrajag

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34826 on: August 05, 2019, 02:49:21 PM »
I dunno, I'm with marrec on this one. From a purely utilitarian standpoint. Making the barrier of entry more difficult will lessen the number of people subjected to self-radicalization. Sure, it will still happen, and some kids will care enough to seek out shit on teh Dark Webz. Another thought, which is both naive and cynical is that maybe the Feds should monitor sites like 8chan and in that sense keeping them around is good as a honey pot. But then one might wonder where the sympathies of law enforcement officers typically lie.

I'm pretty sure the reason the UK porn ban never happened is because security services had a quiet word about them not particularly wanting a sizable chunk of the population all using encrypted VPNs by default

Everyone loves porn. Not so sure about radicalized misanthropic shitposting. Every single person I know irl watches porn. No one I've ever met outside of forums/twitter has heard of 8chan.

Raist

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34827 on: August 05, 2019, 02:50:00 PM »
Counter-point: parents should get their shit together.

VomKriege

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34828 on: August 05, 2019, 02:50:10 PM »
I'm only here to shitpost.  Sorry.

what happened to Pogi, did he defect to NeoGÄF again?

It brings a warm feeling to my heart that everyone has collectively taken the burden of writing currposts.
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marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34829 on: August 05, 2019, 02:50:39 PM »
Unpopular opinion:

Making it hard for 11 year olds to accidentally come across hardcore porn is not a bad policy

But whatever that should be up to the parents to actually parent and it's not REALLY that big a deal compared to this other shit.

Nintex

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34830 on: August 05, 2019, 02:51:08 PM »
🤴

Snoopycat_

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34831 on: August 05, 2019, 02:51:27 PM »
Quote
I'm black so I'm speaking for me.
You're not gonna find us in the cesspools of the internet contemplating the murdering a ton of people...


He doesn't know about the Kill Whitey Forum. It's pretty neat. We have Kill The Whitey bake sales and Kill The Whitey slam poetry nights. It's a good time.

Propagandhim

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34832 on: August 05, 2019, 02:51:54 PM »
I dunno, I'm with marrec on this one. From a purely utilitarian standpoint. Making the barrier of entry more difficult will lessen the number of people subjected to self-radicalization. Sure, it will still happen, and some kids will care enough to seek out shit on teh Dark Webz. Another thought, which is both naive and cynical is that maybe the Feds should monitor sites like 8chan and in that sense keeping them around is good as a honey pot. But then one might wonder where the sympathies of law enforcement officers typically lie.

I'm pretty sure the reason the UK porn ban never happened is because security services had a quiet word about them not particularly wanting a sizable chunk of the population all using encrypted VPNs by default

Everyone loves porn. Not so sure about radicalized misanthropic shitposting. Every single person I know irl watches porn. No one I've ever met outside of forums/twitter has heard of 8chan.


joeboy101

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34833 on: August 05, 2019, 02:52:53 PM »
Unpopular opinion:

Making it hard for 11 year olds to accidentally come across hardcore porn is not a bad policy

Looking at those countries that have lax support for porn restrictions tends to overlap nicely with those countries you mentioned and listed as not obsessing with murder simulators.

NOW, for the fun bit, take a look at those countries with severe porn restrictions.

Here’s some of the big hitters: Syria, Iran, Saudia Arabia, China, North Korea. You know, the places where they play murder simulator, the home game.

counterhit

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34834 on: August 05, 2019, 02:52:53 PM »
Sort yourself out America. Everybody knows none of this foolishness would happen if Steven Seagal was President.

Bizarre how various chan sites are used throughout the western world yet these shootings only happen in the US.

(It's because Steven Seagal and his friend Putin run the rest of the world in a correct manner)

Lonewulfeus

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34835 on: August 05, 2019, 02:53:10 PM »
Do you know what can be effectively compared to removing easy access to guns?
Removing easy access to guns.

Why not both?

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34836 on: August 05, 2019, 02:53:44 PM »
Also, you brainlets, it's not like people think shutting down 8chan is the definitive victory against white supremacist violence. It's just an easy way to do SOMETHING to help stop it and the only argument against it seems to be "but it wont actually solve the problem" fucking duh it won't SOLVE the problem but hey lets give it a try because 8chan is LITERALLY USELESS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN RACIST GARBAGE god you'd think they're putting something in the water that's making people du-

oh god Alex Jones was right

so do something for the sake of saying you did something, all the while knowing the thing you did does fuck all to address the incident that just happened, or any future incidents of a similar nature?

You're not really addressing the point that having easily accessible nodes of racist idiots helps to eventually radicalize racist idiots through feedback loops of ever increasing extremism brought on by anonymous shitposting but okay lets say we get rid of 8chan and nothing happens the world is still a better place because we got rid of 8chan.

maybe addressing the actual problem and attempting to prevent future incidents would be more productive?

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34837 on: August 05, 2019, 02:54:38 PM »
Also, you brainlets, it's not like people think shutting down 8chan is the definitive victory against white supremacist violence. It's just an easy way to do SOMETHING to help stop it and the only argument against it seems to be "but it wont actually solve the problem" fucking duh it won't SOLVE the problem but hey lets give it a try because 8chan is LITERALLY USELESS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN RACIST GARBAGE god you'd think they're putting something in the water that's making people du-

oh god Alex Jones was right

so do something for the sake of saying you did something, all the while knowing the thing you did does fuck all to address the incident that just happened, or any future incidents of a similar nature?

You're not really addressing the point that having easily accessible nodes of racist idiots helps to eventually radicalize racist idiots through feedback loops of ever increasing extremism brought on by anonymous shitposting but okay lets say we get rid of 8chan and nothing happens the world is still a better place because we got rid of 8chan.

maybe addressing the actual problem and attempting to prevent future incidents would be more productive?

You don't think online radicalization of vulnerable young white men is an actual problem?

Boredfrom

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34838 on: August 05, 2019, 02:54:50 PM »
When Sad Panda died, there was a lot of support and helping  of communities that vocally hate half of the stuff posted on it, not only from image boards and *chans.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34839 on: August 05, 2019, 02:54:57 PM »
Quote
I'm black so I'm speaking for me.
You're not gonna find us in the cesspools of the internet contemplating the murdering a ton of people...


He doesn't know about the Kill Whitey Forum. It's pretty neat. We have Kill The Whitey bake sales and Kill The Whitey slam poetry nights. It's a good time.

She said The Coli, not Resetera.
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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34840 on: August 05, 2019, 02:56:22 PM »
I personally don’t want 4chan closing, I don’t even want KiwiFarms gone even if they are approaching to the 8chan singularity. And I agree is a placebo to an extent. My issue is stuff like what BikerJesus posted yesterday, hiding behind Free Speech and saying BS like “you don’t have identity so the content of your comment matters”. Is all BS, this are still communities that can be manipulated and used for a group of assholes. If the community of that site at large cannot see this and the staff is unwilling to change it... well, good riddance. I like Free Speech, but I hate the people hiding behind it to be assholes, specially if they start to laugh about a mass shooting done by a regular.

Sure, the cost of free speech is people saying heinous shit while using it as a shield, all in the knowledge that if they get their way one of the first things they'd get rid of is that same free speech.
Like the cost of democracy is people who want to do heinous shit having the potential to gain legitimate power.

Its not a slippery slope argument to object to erosions of freedoms, because theres plenty of people out there who dont like those freedoms and are actively trying to remove them.

What fucking erosion of freedoms with 8chan. Stop painting this sites as seriously trying to fight for Free Speech when they seem not concerned about a fucking mass shooting. You think people would care about this “we are bastions of free speech” drivel if they had a person they love killed because a stupid racist incoherently bitches about immigrants and the Lorax.

right, and the family of a murder victim are probably not too bothered about the miranda rights of the perpetrator, or ensuring that they get to trial instead of being beaten to death by an angry mob of other angry relatives.
maybe this shouldn't be a thing left to people in a heightened state of emotions to come up with a solution off the cuff to

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34841 on: August 05, 2019, 02:57:48 PM »
I personally don’t want 4chan closing, I don’t even want KiwiFarms gone even if they are approaching to the 8chan singularity. And I agree is a placebo to an extent. My issue is stuff like what BikerJesus posted yesterday, hiding behind Free Speech and saying BS like “you don’t have identity so the content of your comment matters”. Is all BS, this are still communities that can be manipulated and used for a group of assholes. If the community of that site at large cannot see this and the staff is unwilling to change it... well, good riddance. I like Free Speech, but I hate the people hiding behind it to be assholes, specially if they start to laugh about a mass shooting done by a regular.

Sure, the cost of free speech is people saying heinous shit while using it as a shield, all in the knowledge that if they get their way one of the first things they'd get rid of is that same free speech.
Like the cost of democracy is people who want to do heinous shit having the potential to gain legitimate power.

Its not a slippery slope argument to object to erosions of freedoms, because theres plenty of people out there who dont like those freedoms and are actively trying to remove them.

What fucking erosion of freedoms with 8chan. Stop painting this sites as seriously trying to fight for Free Speech when they seem not concerned about a fucking mass shooting. You think people would care about this “we are bastions of free speech” drivel if they had a person they love killed because a stupid racist incoherently bitches about immigrants and the Lorax.

right, and the family of a murder victim are probably not too bothered about the miranda rights of the perpetrator, or ensuring that they get to trial instead of being beaten to death by an angry mob of other angry relatives.
maybe this shouldn't be a thing left to people in a heightened state of emotions to come up with a solution off the cuff to

You keep saying "solution" as if everyone's going to stop trying to solve this problem after 8chan, a very clear and definite part of the problem, is shut down.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34842 on: August 05, 2019, 02:58:18 PM »
Also, you brainlets, it's not like people think shutting down 8chan is the definitive victory against white supremacist violence. It's just an easy way to do SOMETHING to help stop it and the only argument against it seems to be "but it wont actually solve the problem" fucking duh it won't SOLVE the problem but hey lets give it a try because 8chan is LITERALLY USELESS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN RACIST GARBAGE god you'd think they're putting something in the water that's making people du-

oh god Alex Jones was right

so do something for the sake of saying you did something, all the while knowing the thing you did does fuck all to address the incident that just happened, or any future incidents of a similar nature?

You're not really addressing the point that having easily accessible nodes of racist idiots helps to eventually radicalize racist idiots through feedback loops of ever increasing extremism brought on by anonymous shitposting but okay lets say we get rid of 8chan and nothing happens the world is still a better place because we got rid of 8chan.

maybe addressing the actual problem and attempting to prevent future incidents would be more productive?

You don't think online radicalization of vulnerable young white men is an actual problem?

its absolutely a problem. its not this problem.
harsher sentencing for drug related crime is a solution to a problem. It doesn't fucking do much to address wealth inequality.

e:
You keep saying "solution" as if everyone's going to stop trying to solve this problem after 8chan, a very clear and definite part of the problem, is shut down.

Because if your 'solution' to mass killings using guns doesn't involve the concept of 'less easy access to guns' at any point, its not a fucking solution?

Boredfrom

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34843 on: August 05, 2019, 02:59:23 PM »
I personally don’t want 4chan closing, I don’t even want KiwiFarms gone even if they are approaching to the 8chan singularity. And I agree is a placebo to an extent. My issue is stuff like what BikerJesus posted yesterday, hiding behind Free Speech and saying BS like “you don’t have identity so the content of your comment matters”. Is all BS, this are still communities that can be manipulated and used for a group of assholes. If the community of that site at large cannot see this and the staff is unwilling to change it... well, good riddance. I like Free Speech, but I hate the people hiding behind it to be assholes, specially if they start to laugh about a mass shooting done by a regular.

Sure, the cost of free speech is people saying heinous shit while using it as a shield, all in the knowledge that if they get their way one of the first things they'd get rid of is that same free speech.
Like the cost of democracy is people who want to do heinous shit having the potential to gain legitimate power.

Its not a slippery slope argument to object to erosions of freedoms, because theres plenty of people out there who dont like those freedoms and are actively trying to remove them.

What fucking erosion of freedoms with 8chan. Stop painting this sites as seriously trying to fight for Free Speech when they seem not concerned about a fucking mass shooting. You think people would care about this “we are bastions of free speech” drivel if they had a person they love killed because a stupid racist incoherently bitches about immigrants and the Lorax.

right, and the family of a murder victim are probably not too bothered about the miranda rights of the perpetrator, or ensuring that they get to trial instead of being beaten to death by an angry mob of other angry relatives.
maybe this shouldn't be a thing left to people in a heightened state of emotions to come up with a solution off the cuff to

Where in the world I have said that I support people wanting to kill the guy or not give him due process? I actually shitted on them...

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34844 on: August 05, 2019, 03:04:00 PM »
Where in the world I have said that I support people wanting to kill the guy or not give him due process? I actually shitted on them...

I'm not trying to put words into your mouth, but you said that people in a heightened state of emotion are not going to be receptive to more abstract concepts of freedom with the death of a loved one prominent in their minds, and you are 100% correct - but that extends to other concepts, and other rights, and trying to placate people in a heightened state of emotion with "quick fix" legislation almost always ultimately involves unintended consequences for a broader society.

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34845 on: August 05, 2019, 03:04:33 PM »

Because if your 'solution' to mass killings using guns doesn't involve the concept of 'less easy access to guns' at any point, its not a fucking solution?

How the fuck is Cloudflare supposed to restrict access to guns!?

More seriously, you are making perfect the enemy of good in this case. Everyone with a brain knows that the ultimate solution is to get rid of guns, while we work on that why not also get rid of easy access to online radicalization vectors?

counterhit

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34846 on: August 05, 2019, 03:04:45 PM »
Unpopular opinion:

Making it hard for 11 year olds to accidentally come across hardcore porn is not a bad policy

Looking at those countries that have lax support for porn restrictions tends to overlap nicely with those countries you mentioned and listed as not obsessing with murder simulators.

NOW, for the fun bit, take a look at those countries with severe porn restrictions.

Here’s some of the big hitters: Syria, Iran, Saudia Arabia, China, North Korea. You know, the places where they play murder simulator, the home game.

So five nations which are either fucking over the US or can't be fucked by it despite best efforts. Nofap gives you the ability to challenge the world superpower's collective pornbrain.

Boredfrom

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34847 on: August 05, 2019, 03:05:49 PM »
Where in the world I have said that I support people wanting to kill the guy or not give him due process? I actually shitted on them...

I'm not trying to put words into your mouth, but you said that people in a heightened state of emotion are not going to be receptive to more abstract concepts of freedom with the death of a loved one prominent in their minds, and you are 100% correct - but that extends to other concepts, and other rights, and trying to placate people in a heightened state of emotion with "quick fix" legislation almost always ultimately involves unintended consequences for a broader society.

And I agree. What it has to do with 8chan losing net security providers?

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34848 on: August 05, 2019, 03:06:15 PM »

Because if your 'solution' to mass killings using guns doesn't involve the concept of 'less easy access to guns' at any point, its not a fucking solution?

How the fuck is Cloudflare supposed to restrict access to guns!?

why the fuck is cloudflare being brought up in the context of a mass shooting?

if your answer is "because the us won't fucking consider gun control, so got to do something somewhere", you're just back to placebo effects to avoid dealing with the actual issue

BisMarckie

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34849 on: August 05, 2019, 03:07:15 PM »
Isn’t there a careposter convention where you guys could hang out? :trash

Boredfrom

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34850 on: August 05, 2019, 03:07:37 PM »
Isn’t there a careposter convention where you guys could hang out? :trash

My ass.

joeboy101

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34851 on: August 05, 2019, 03:07:52 PM »
Unpopular opinion:

Making it hard for 11 year olds to accidentally come across hardcore porn is not a bad policy

Looking at those countries that have lax support for porn restrictions tends to overlap nicely with those countries you mentioned and listed as not obsessing with murder simulators.

NOW, for the fun bit, take a look at those countries with severe porn restrictions.

Here’s some of the big hitters: Syria, Iran, Saudia Arabia, China, North Korea. You know, the places where they play murder simulator, the home game.

So five nations which are either fucking over the US or can't be fucked by it despite best efforts. Nofap gives you the ability to challenge the world superpower's collective pornbrain.

Well, if your not jerking off regularly, then you’ve got the time, mental stress, and aggression to make it happen.

Joe Molotov

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34852 on: August 05, 2019, 03:07:58 PM »
You have to solve a captcha now in order to buy a gun.
©@©™

marrec

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34853 on: August 05, 2019, 03:08:24 PM »
Isn’t there a careposter convention where you guys could hang out? :trash
http://8ch.net

james

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34854 on: August 05, 2019, 03:09:31 PM »
Isn’t there a careposter convention where you guys could hang out? :trash

My ass.

You sound like an angry gamer.

Yikes.
:O

Boredfrom

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34855 on: August 05, 2019, 03:11:37 PM »
Isn’t there a careposter convention where you guys could hang out? :trash

My ass.

You sound like an angry gamer.

Yikes.

I’m not angry, I have porn.

BisMarckie

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34856 on: August 05, 2019, 03:12:50 PM »
 POINT OF  PERSONAL PRIVILEGE

All these careposts trigger my carpal tunnel syndrome by having to scroll past them.
Could you be please more considerate and return to dumb shitposts? Thank you

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34857 on: August 05, 2019, 03:13:45 PM »
Isn’t there a careposter convention where you guys could hang out? :trash

My ass.

You sound like an angry gamer.

Yikes.

I’m not angry, I have porn.

And as long as you're over 16, thats great.

If you're under 16, Y I K E S
:O

Propagandhim

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34858 on: August 05, 2019, 03:14:12 PM »
I got a dumb shitpost right here for you, folks.


I don't smoke.  Never have.  But I bought nicotine gum to curb my appetite because I have a few pounds to lose.  I chewed two pieces and now I gotta throw up.  I'm totally lost in the sauce right now. 

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #34859 on: August 05, 2019, 03:14:13 PM »
And I agree. What it has to do with 8chan losing net security providers?

You're either talking about new legislation to force them to do so - because they obey the law - or using pressure to force them to do so, despite no laws being broken.

Is it actually a slippery slope argument to then say that in either of those circumstances, special interests then have precedent that kicking up enough of a fuss over something their interests do not care for can lead to it being removed?