River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible

[Mr Gilhaney]

Yeah they also had you having to have played the games for a looooooong time (if not forever). The change they actually did against review bombing, is to have two seperate review scores that is 'recently' and 'overall', and on top of that, filtering out reviews from periods of time, where the reviews all of a sudden changed in some shit storm. you can toggle that back on and see the review bombings anyway though.

[benjipwns]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1808664240333155775

First, what do we mean by an off-topic review bomb? As we defined back in our original post, a review bomb is where players post a large number of reviews in a short period of time, aimed at lowering the Review Score of a game. We define an off-topic review bomb as one where the focus of those reviews is on a topic that we consider unrelated to the likelihood that future purchasers will be happy if they buy the game, and hence not something that should be added to the Review Score.

awesome, we can get Valve in trouble for considering it "off-topic"

[marrec]

 ERA: *proceeds to try and ruin lives*

[benjipwns]

So I just googled "Ion Fury" and there doesn't seem like anyone is picking up on the story?

Well it is the weekend so there probably won't be anything till Monday. On the other hand after the games media handling of the THQ/8chan business I'm not exactly expecting the media to do a good job on this one.

[benjipwns]

There was a guy who used to be a pro soviet-style communist proponent on the old board. He was most assuredly an alt-right sleeper cell troll looking back, but he tried to explain how he could love video games and movies while simultaneously explaining that he wanted a society where government controlled 100% of the economy and there was no private property. He said video games and pop culture media could exist in such an economy. Couldn't explain how that would work, though.

shots fired at somebody

[benjipwns]

lol RedMercury wants to take back the hammer and sickle:

Anybody still using that symbol to promote socialism in the West has questionable judgement. It has the stench of death and failure and that's not going to attract anybody worth having on your side to your cause. It's like edgelord fake woke bullshit.

It's not communists fault that people fearmongered the symbol or that shitty people did shitty things that others misconstrued as the kind of communism they support, also an argument can be made for attempting reclamation/redefining the symbol.

It's always the people who seems the most hostile to the ideas of communism who have the strongest opinions about which symbols are going to be most effective for communists to use.
Yeah, communists should definitely listen to this good faith, constructive criticism.

p.s.
Shitting on the hammer and the sickle in the context of fighting nazis is just extra great.

[Joe Molotov]

So I just googled "Ion Fury" and there doesn't seem like anyone is picking up on the story?

Well it is the weekend so there probably won't be anything till Monday. On the other hand after the games media handling of the THQ/8chan business I'm not exactly expecting the media to do a good job on this one.

Furiously emailing Nintendo of America so they see this first thing Monday morning. 

[daemon]

And all these people are still playing the game!!

a whole bunch of the not recommended reviews are "love this game, it's great, but just found out the devs are transphobic" reviews, you have to own the game on Steam and I believe have played it to review it, this was the change they made to stop review bombs

latest negative review:
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Why can't people l hate be just simpletons who create nothing (like me) instead of hard-working, passionate human beings.

lol RedMercury wants to take back the hammer and sickle:

Anybody still using that symbol to promote socialism in the West has questionable judgement. It has the stench of death and failure and that's not going to attract anybody worth having on your side to your cause. It's like edgelord fake woke bullshit.

It's not communists fault that people fearmongered the symbol or that shitty people did shitty things that others misconstrued as the kind of communism they support, also an argument can be made for attempting reclamation/redefining the symbol.

It's always the people who seems the most hostile to the ideas of communism who have the strongest opinions about which symbols are going to be most effective for communists to use.
Yeah, communists should definitely listen to this good faith, constructive criticism.

p.s.
Shitting on the hammer and the sickle in the context of fighting nazis is just extra great.

SVASTIKA VINDICATED!

[benjipwns]

No. Tolerance. For. Bigotry. It ain't hard to understand - their views aren't something relatively benign like "I support tax cuts for the middle class", they're actively hostile to a section of the population.

You don|'t have have to tolerate that kind of shit but you can still and should engage in a civilized disucssion in this forum and report problematic posts to the mods.

this will never work

[Boredfrom]

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That is the saddest review bomb I have ever seen.

[benjipwns]

I know you said you’re not “both siding” it but you literally are. Antifa may be a massive pseudo-organisation but the frontlines of it at the communist/socialist/anarchist people and they’re the ones who are most active in opposing fascism. The vast majority of us here oppose fascism, and are vocal about it, but how many of us actively counter protest and spend a good amount of time in active participation opposing fascism? I’d argue not many.

I don’t politically align with communism/socialism/anarchism, and some I strongly oppose their political ideals, but as people they aren’t proponents of genocide and active hatred of people and they act peacefully. An Antifa isn’t pushing a singular ideology, it’s a Venn diagram with a common interest of Fuck fascism; it’s literally in the name. These counter protests aren’t there pushing far left ideologies, they’re there opposing far right ideologies. Individual people within that group might be interviewed and give their take but there isn’t a common cause beyond saying white supremacy is evil.

I blame BisMarckie for not having stopped this.

[benjipwns]

The hammer and sickle is a strictly leninist symbol  some modern Marxist parties keep the symbol simply because they're directly descendent from marxist-leninist parties, but that doesn't change its meaning

https://www.resetera.com/threads/portland-prepares-for-proud-boy-and-antifa-face-off-this-weekend.134706/post-23681895

In several countries in the former Eastern Bloc, there are laws that define the hammer and sickle as the symbol of a "totalitarian and criminal ideology" and the public display of the hammer and sickle and other Communist symbols such as the red star is considered a criminal offence. Georgia,[8] Hungary,[9] Latvia,[10] Lithuania,[11] Moldova (1 October 2012 – 4 June 2013)[12] and Ukraine[13][14][15] have banned communist symbols including this one

US centric forum and all but many don't seem to quite grasp how stigmatized those symbols are in the parts of world that were the most affected by the soviet era.

What about India?

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Nobody tells you what symbols you should use to express your communism, but if you're not a communist, and I deeply suspect that you aren't, why do you think it is your place to give that advice to communists?

[remy]

First Ooblets now, Ion Fury, why does Resetera hate indie games? 

[Boredfrom]

Nobody tells you what symbols you should use to express your communism, but if you're not a communist, and I deeply suspect that you aren't, why do you think it is your place to give that advice to communists?

I thought you guys were atheists.

[thisismyusername]

And all these people are still playing the game!!

a whole bunch of the not recommended reviews are "love this game, it's great, but just found out the devs are transphobic" reviews, you have to own the game on Steam and I believe have played it to review it, this was the change they made to stop review bombs

latest negative review:
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60 Negative Reviews, nearly all of them are Era.

Really  makes you  think

[benjipwns]

I express my anti-fascist anarchist bonafides by making joke votes in the Democratic primary.

[benjipwns]

The black-red motif is the color of anarchism from the 20th century, but under the modern cultural zeitgeist it's the color scheme of violence and authoritarianism.

And while you're right, black and red is also, for example, the colors of the Nazi flag and Nazi uniforms, so it's not like having a disliking to those colors is just a media creation.

It still kind of is. Our video games and movies about beating up the Nazis in their black and red uniforms didn't exactly make themselves. I'm not saying the media invented the negative connotations of "black" and "red", but it is definitely perpetuated and sustained through media.

this thread is great

[Boredfrom]

Is Samoyed getting dumber? I feel some months ago he was not this dumb.

[benjipwns]

lol I didn't know it came from a fucking contest:

In 1917, Vladimir Lenin and Anatoly Lunacharsky held a competition to create a Soviet emblem. The winning design was a hammer and sickle on top of a globe in rays of the sun, surrounded by a wreath of grain and under a five-pointed star, with the inscription "proletariats of the world, unite!" in six languages (Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Georgian, Armenian and Azerbaijani). It originally featured a sword, but Lenin strongly objected, disliking the violent connotations.

[benjipwns]

the Mozambique flag variant

It is one of three national flags among UN member states that features a firearm, along with those of Guatemala and Haiti.

Green stands for the riches of the land, the white fimbriations signify peace, black represents the African continent, yellow symbolises the country's minerals, and red represents the struggle for independence. The rifle stands for defence and vigilance, the open book symbolises the importance of education, the hoe represents the country's agriculture, and the star symbolises Marxism and internationalism.

[blame space]

i guess i finally figured out the secret to not getting permanently banned from NeoGAF.com: do not force the site owner to contemplate why he would need to ban race-related IQ discussion.

[HaughtyFrank]

lol I didn't know it came from a fucking contest:

In 1917, Vladimir Lenin and Anatoly Lunacharsky held a competition to create a Soviet emblem. The winning design was a hammer and sickle on top of a globe in rays of the sun, surrounded by a wreath of grain and under a five-pointed star, with the inscription "proletariats of the world, unite!" in six languages (Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Georgian, Armenian and Azerbaijani).  It originally featured a sword, but Lenin strongly objected, disliking the violent connotations.

 

[daemon]

the Mozambique flag variant

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It is one of three national flags among UN member states that features a firearm, along with those of Guatemala and Haiti.

Green stands for the riches of the land, the white fimbriations signify peace, black represents the African continent, yellow symbolises the country's minerals, and red represents the struggle for independence. The rifle stands for defence and vigilance, the open book symbolises the importance of education, the hoe represents the country's agriculture, and the star symbolises Marxism and internationalism.

i guess i finally figured out the secret to not getting permanently banned from NeoGAF.com: do not force the site owner to contemplate why he would need to ban race-related IQ discussion.

Don't interact with the site owner at all. And if you do, make it as a gesture of showering him with praise.

[benjipwns]

i'll just say it

Lenin was a weird dude

don't @ me

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

No tolerance for bigotry is the way to go, to be honest. A recurrent topic in US PoliERA is that racists get more upset by being called racist, than their actual racist viewpoints. Same applies here - if someone is more upset about the language used towards them than by their own awful views, then there's clearly something wrong with their ability to self-reflect on those views. And ignorance has no place here - it's not a big ask to just accept trans people for who they are.

             Is this acknowledging the shitty deflection that is "Tone Policing"?
              /

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/reseteratxt/status/1160226923747975168
https://twitter.com/reseteratxt/status/1160227180875583493

[benjipwns]

Didn't the hammer and sickle originate from the Russian Revolution? It's hard to disconnect it from shit like this. I don't see why that's symbol you'd want to claim when it's so deeply connected to a horrific regime like the soviet union

Its literally no different than utilizing the American or British flag or the symbols of those countries despite the atrocities they've carried out.

my man

[Boredfrom]

https://twitter.com/reseteratxt/status/1160226923747975168
https://twitter.com/reseteratxt/status/1160227180875583493

Yeah... but is Trump. And he did imply that the Clintons did it.

[OnlyRegret]

Didn't the hammer and sickle originate from the Russian Revolution? It's hard to disconnect it from shit like this. I don't see why that's symbol you'd want to claim when it's so deeply connected to a horrific regime like the soviet union

Its literally no different than utilizing the American or British flag or the symbols of those countries despite the atrocities they've carried out.

my man

at least he is clearly honouring a tried and true soviet/putinite tradition there

[blame space]

We're not continuing things from the locked thread.

oh we aren't? sounds like a blanket ban on certain discussion. 🤔

permaban

if they'll go for more ram it might be worse for you because you'll have to ask for more money from your mom to get you ps5.

Not a problem for me I actually work but don't know about you u might have to suck Ur step father's hairy stuff to get one

two-day ban

Hi folks. As NeoGAF gets back to a more healthy, grounded, rational place, I've been asked by several folks about their account status.

[benjipwns]

I should ask if Lore overturned any Steve Youngblood bans

[Don Rumata]

https://twitter.com/reseteratxt/status/1160226923747975168
https://twitter.com/reseteratxt/status/1160227180875583493

Also I just need to get this off my chest: how gross is it that a fucking moderator’s avatar is a picture of themselves wearing a Kamala Harris shirt?

Something between "not particularly" and "not at all"? 

[Tripon]

https://www.healthline.com/health/fat-acceptance-vs-body-positivity#1

Why I’m Trading Body Positivity for Fat Acceptance

As a fat dietitian, people are less likely to take me seriously than a thinner dietitian
My abilities and knowledge are in question, both implicitly and explicitly because of my body size. Clients and other professionals alike have questioned my ability to provide care and have decided not to work with me.

And when fat bodies like mine are shown positively, there’s often backlash from followers or trolls — people who follow hashtags and attempt to discredit things that show up under them. It’s vulnerable to post pictures of your body if it’s fat. To talk about how being healthy at any size is possible is emotionally exhausting. The bigger your body, the more marginalized you are, and the more you risk being harassed.

How thin people can be allies for a culture change

[benjipwns]

Also I just need to get this off my chest: how gross is it that a fucking moderator’s avatar is a picture of themselves wearing a Kamala Harris shirt?

Something between "not particularly" and "not at all"? 

not surprised the forum cops are showing solidarity with real cops

complicit

[HaughtyFrank]

As a fat dietitian, people are less likely to take me seriously than a thinner dietitian
My abilities and knowledge are in question, both implicitly and explicitly because of my body size. Clients and other professionals alike have questioned my ability to provide care and have decided not to work with me.

That's like a dentist with bad teeth. No shit people will question their knowledge.

[Don Rumata]

As a fat dietitian, people are less likely to take me seriously than a thinner dietitian
My abilities and knowledge are in question, both implicitly and explicitly because of my body size. Clients and other professionals alike have questioned my ability to provide care and have decided not to work with me.

That's like a dentist with bad teeth. No shit people will question their knowledge.

Would be like a game journalist bad at games. 

[benjipwns]

samoyed and Chikor are literally re-enacting the end of the Second International

You might like this one:
 
Three Arrows - Wikipedia
 en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Refusing to work with communists to fight the Nazis was such a great idea, it worked really well too!

I am really confused at the resurgence in popularity of the 3 arrows flags. I mean, maybe I should not say resurgence, because I personally have never seen it in any left leaning circles until maybe a couple of years ago.

Sometimes iconography is just catchy.

Also there's a LeftTube channel called Three Arrows.

In the age of cultural instability, rising fascism, and social media, people are digging up all the counter-fascism icons of the 20th century.

It's a good design no doubt, but I donno, maybe it is really because of that youtube channel, but I feel that as far as this symbol was even known in left circles, it was a reminder of how dangerous it is a not unifying front against Nazis. If nothing else, I hope we don't forget this lesson in the process.

If it gets re-appropriated then fine, I'm just not sure what it supposed to symbolize at this point. I hope it's not "no to nazis, no to antifa".

It's for people who're against nazis but don't feel comfortable waving the sickle and hammer around. I don't like to use the sickle and hammer myself but I also I didn't inherit McCarthyism from American culture.

As you can see there are many in this very thread.

The problem I have with that is that I think it creates this weird false narrative that you have on one side nazis and and on the other side a bunch of Stalinists who are trying to do the Holodomor 2.0 in the midwest, and both are dangerous, and we must renounce both equally.
I don't know, maybe I'm reading too much into this, but this is EXACTLY what the 3 arrows was about, and its tragic failing is exactly that it put the nazis on the same level of concern as the communists.
And like, the communists in Germany in the 30s were at least a real political force who could have enacted real, meaningful change to German society, but what exactly scare people so much about a kid with a hammer and a sickle shirt?

The right wing is going to call it an terrorist flag anyway.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ion-fury-devs-show-signs-of-transphobia-among-other-issues-update-voidpoint-twitter-responds.135368/post-23682097

User Banned (1 Week): Dismissing Concerns of Transphobia

I don't agree with their polticial views, but I'll be honest, some of you folks do seem to get off on rage and accusations.

[Boredfrom]

Has this past few years on social media just a bizarre WWII LARP ?

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-feels-like-its-getting-harder-to-discuss-thing-calmly-in-the-gaming-community.135450/post-23682298

I agree that discussion level in this place is getting lower all the time. NeoGAF was bad at the end but everything about ResetEra feels more serious.

And yeah, there's that too: there aren't as many joke threads or fun threads overall, they get closed all the time a few posts in for trolling or whatever, yet negative threads are allowed to grow with no issue. That fosters a mostly negative environment. Have you noticed how over a year into the forum's life there aren't as many in-jokes or memorable memes? This place at times feels like it's so afraid of getting taken over by trolls that people aren't allowed to lighten up.

Totally untrue, there are tons of great ResetERA.com memes. You're just not really allowed to enjoy them on ResetERA.com officially.

[Lonewulfeus]

For about 15 Billion Canadian Dollars. It would be a good investment. We can annex the green area to Nova Scotia or Ontario to make it a quick annexation.

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[benjipwns]

for Vom:

I've been on the Booty Train a bit longer than most here I think, and from the start I've firmly believed he's got the chops to be president someday. Unfortunately, he decided that's today and I just... don't see it happening. He's just not there yet, and I hope that he knows that and this is just him getting his name recognition boosted. If he doesn't get a cabinet position, I can see him taking a senate seat or governorship in Indiana pretty easily next go around, and maybe from there run for President in 4-8 years.

also from PoliERA:

Wow, it's almost as if Sanders only ever gained any traction in the first place because he was literally the only person who thought it would be productive to run again Hillary Clinton in a primary, got more traction than he would have otherwise because of Russian meddling, and that in the face of multiple other candidates he has a hard time standing out or something.

You forgot O'Malley. :'(

This is actually a good point and something I've always wondered about. Why did Russia pick Sanders to throw their weight behind when Governor Abs was. Uh. There?

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sanders-we-will-go-to-war-against-white-nationalism.135536/post-23683997

He should straight up declare the KKK a terrorist Group.

[Lonewulfeus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-feels-like-its-getting-harder-to-discuss-thing-calmly-in-the-gaming-community.135450/post-23682298

I agree that discussion level in this place is getting lower all the time. NeoGAF was bad at the end but everything about ResetEra feels more serious.

And yeah, there's that too: there aren't as many joke threads or fun threads overall, they get closed all the time a few posts in for trolling or whatever, yet negative threads are allowed to grow with no issue. That fosters a mostly negative environment. Have you noticed how over a year into the forum's life there aren't as many in-jokes or memorable memes? This place at times feels like it's so afraid of getting taken over by trolls that people aren't allowed to lighten up.

Totally untrue, there are tons of great ResetERA.com memes. You're just not really allowed to enjoy them on ResetERA.com officially.

While largely true you must have missed out on the staff post meme folx have been using for the last week

[Himu]

here you go Cindi

https://twitter.com/opheliajcbrown/status/1162508446555660290

https://twitter.com/opheliajcbrown/status/1162508973712596993

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/opheliajcbrown/status/1162761100687020033

https://twitter.com/opheliajcbrown/status/1162709115132678145

[close]

Does this person know how rare it is to find a size 0 in store much less at a thrift shop?

[benjipwns]

I wish the General Guide to ResetEra had an official list of allowed memes. It's privilege to expect me to remember them all.

[Himu]

This legitimately sounds like mental illness.

[benjipwns]

User banned (3 days): disrupting a sensitive thread without reading the OP

I sometimes just hate that one opinion can create a whichhunt around a whole team.
I live all people and love to work on a game like this. But... 1 asshole and we seem all bad and doomed.

i still love the look and feel of the game.

[stufte]

Dansgaming is a gay man . They are now cancelling marginalized people because of this. Shameful.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/social-nervousness-and-going-to-different-restaurants.135520/

I'm not socially awkward but I do sometimes get nervous when I go to a completely new or different restaurants that I'm not familiar with to eat or order food in fear of looking like a complete idiot in front of other customers or waiters/waitresses. This is the reason why I usually go to restaurants that I'm familiar with or been to most of time when I'm eating out. Does anyone suffer from this feeling as well?

Yep, don't want to make a fool of myself for not knowing how to order food.
I appreciate restaurants that let you order food by ticking items on the menu.

TBH, I still get anxious everywhere I go, so I know nothing helps until you're actually still down and enjoying yourself.

Definitely, OP.

I usually study the menu for a while of some place new I might be curious of going to and then one day I pull the trigger. I did that recently with this steak place that opened up near me and it was wonderful.

Do your research on yelp ahead of time so you know what to order.

[Himu]

Yeah. You lose so much out on life by eating vegetables and healthy sized food portions. It takes soooooo damn long to sautee spinach!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sanders-we-will-go-to-war-against-white-nationalism.135536/post-23683997

He should straight up declare the KKK a terrorist Group.

Honestly, even I'm surprised by his response. I'm used to him telling it like it is, but I wasn't expecting him to go full blown antifa on stage.

Lol

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sanders-we-will-go-to-war-against-white-nationalism.135536/post-23684118

Libertarian is an entry level fascist.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/darq-dev-why-i-turned-down-exclusivity-deal-from-the-epic-store.135529/post-23683194

I don't like this. While I do support his decision and the reason for his decision, him publicizing this is effectively -- and likely intentionally -- fanning the flames of controversy towards Epic and devs who've gone to the Epic store. And he's likely to profit off of it as a result. That's not cool. Genuinely curious whether he went into this conversation knowing this would be the result, whether he went into the conversation planning to release the emails.

Someone "very serious about working in this industry for a very long time" shouldn't be posting mails that were sent in confidence. It isn't necessary to make their point -- to the extent that they have any point at all. They're ostensibly defending the decision to not go to the EGS, but nobody is out there demanding an explanation. Nobody even knew this happened before the post. In reality, they're just publicly criticizing a company that offered them an opportunity because they know it will score some points in the gaming community.

This is like giving charity and then going around bragging about it lol.

Seems like this dev had every intention of rejecting the Epic money then using that to market his game further to recoup that and then some.

Edit: Exactly the above 2 posts^
Seems like he's fine throwing other devs who took the money under the bus to fuel his little advertising campaign as well.

Pretty much how I see it. Not a good look imo.

If "Not encouraging ongoing harassment campaigns against developers" is a one-sided view, I'm guilty as charged.

this situation is a garbage fire. people in either situation should literally not address it at all besides "we are releasing for platform -x-"

Is there not a rule against putting the word journalists in quotes? There is a lot of that happening in here and it doesn't seem particularly healthy. I don't think I need to remind anyone of where we've seen that type of discourse before.

[team filler]

resetera.com is the jessica yaniv fan club 

[Coffee Dog]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-feels-like-its-getting-harder-to-discuss-thing-calmly-in-the-gaming-community.135450/post-23682298

I agree that discussion level in this place is getting lower all the time. NeoGAF was bad at the end but everything about ResetEra feels more serious.

And yeah, there's that too: there aren't as many joke threads or fun threads overall, they get closed all the time a few posts in for trolling or whatever, yet negative threads are allowed to grow with no issue. That fosters a mostly negative environment. Have you noticed how over a year into the forum's life there aren't as many in-jokes or memorable memes? This place at times feels like it's so afraid of getting taken over by trolls that people aren't allowed to lighten up.

Totally untrue, there are tons of great ResetERA.com memes. You're just not really allowed to enjoy them on ResetERA.com officially.

While largely true you must have missed out on the staff post meme folx have been using for the last week

People always made fun of staff posts, and it resulted in a ban. There's just too many to ban now without making the mod team looking overtly ban happy over jokes. 

[Himu]

RE: the tweet you quoted for me, benji. like how does this person not know of the oversized sweater on a thin girl look? It's the definition of aesthetic. Have they never seen an anime?



kween

[FStop7]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/which-console-manufacturer-has-the-best-stable-of-ips.135545/

LOL a straight up console wars thread.

[Transhuman]

Hot girls look good in everything dingus

[team filler]

Hot girls look good in everything dingus

it's a look, bb. something you wouldn't understand