River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

People are literally being murdered by themselves and it's supposed be taken light heartedly?

The expert on being murdered in the digital realm has weighed in!

[daemon]

GreatSage:  And I'm right there with you guys on that criticism.

Just think you are being dramatic cunts if you call era murderers.

Maybe they're just joking, considering how this forum generally is?

This thread stopped being mostly jokes a while back. Newer posters are dead serious with their crusade against Gaf/Era.

People want charges they're never going to get with this Zoe Quinn and whoeverthefuck scenario.

If there's not an investigation, I think society fails. that's all. Accuse someone of a crime (yes, a crime) publicly knowing that this is one of those impossible to prove in a court of law should be considered, by all means, libel unless you can provide proof (you don't need to counter-prove it, but barely anyone goes to court unless they have $200K+ available and an expected sum on the outcome). Now, other details, such as her knowledge of previous near-suicide and mental well-being should be taken into account. This is also a person that begged for people to stop harassing her online and knows how vicious the internet can get when targeting an individual.

Libel + gross negligence doesn't sound far-fetched. ( ffs she went to the UN to do a fucking talk about cyber harassment).

And I would be on the same field if the papers were reversed. Problem being, those who accused quinn publicly of things, such as eron, did go to court, and she took the charges back because he had receipts. I don't mean audience-less shitlords, of course. I mean just people in a position of power denouncing stuff they can't back up.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

People are literally being murdered by themselves and it's supposed be taken light heartedly?

The expert on being murdered in the digital realm has weighed in!

[marrec]

GreatSage:  And I'm right there with you guys on that criticism.

Just think you are being dramatic cunts if you call era murderers.

Maybe they're just joking, considering how this forum generally is?

This thread stopped being mostly jokes a while back. Newer posters are dead serious with their crusade against Gaf/Era.

People want charges they're never going to get with this Zoe Quinn and whoeverthefuck scenario.

If there's not an investigation, I think society fails. that's all. Accuse someone of a crime (yes, a crime) publicly knowing that this is one of those impossible to prove in a court of law should be considered, by all means, libel unless you can provide proof (you don't need to counter-prove it, but barely anyone goes to court unless they have $200K+ available and an expected sum on the outcome). Now, other details, such as her knowledge of previous near-suicide and mental well-being should be taken into account. This is also a person that begged for people to stop harassing her online and knows how vicious the internet can get when targeting an individual.

Libel + gross negligence doesn't sound far-fetched.

And I would be on the same field if the papers were reversed. Problem being, those who accused quinn publicly of things, such as eron, did go to court, and she took the charges back because he had receipts. I don't mean audience-less shitlords, of course. I mean just people in a position of power denouncing stuff they can't back up.

One problem with this (there are multiple, but lets focus on this for now) is that proving Libel in the US in this scenario would be exceedingly difficult.

[daemon]

GreatSage:  And I'm right there with you guys on that criticism.

Just think you are being dramatic cunts if you call era murderers.

Maybe they're just joking, considering how this forum generally is?

This thread stopped being mostly jokes a while back. Newer posters are dead serious with their crusade against Gaf/Era.

People want charges they're never going to get with this Zoe Quinn and whoeverthefuck scenario.

If there's not an investigation, I think society fails. that's all. Accuse someone of a crime (yes, a crime) publicly knowing that this is one of those impossible to prove in a court of law should be considered, by all means, libel unless you can provide proof (you don't need to counter-prove it, but barely anyone goes to court unless they have $200K+ available and an expected sum on the outcome). Now, other details, such as her knowledge of previous near-suicide and mental well-being should be taken into account. This is also a person that begged for people to stop harassing her online and knows how vicious the internet can get when targeting an individual.

Libel + gross negligence doesn't sound far-fetched.

And I would be on the same field if the papers were reversed. Problem being, those who accused quinn publicly of things, such as eron, did go to court, and she took the charges back because he had receipts. I don't mean audience-less shitlords, of course. I mean just people in a position of power denouncing stuff they can't back up.

One problem with this (there are multiple, but lets focus on this for now) is that proving Libel in the US in this scenario would be exceedingly difficult.

That's why people are having a field day. I said you shouldn't be required to prove that the information is false. It's always on the accuser to prove it's true. But in the case of libel, they fucked up which is why grey area one-on-one cases it's free real estate for the accusers.

[Uncle]

[nudemacusers]

GreatSage:  And I'm right there with you guys on that criticism.

Just think you are being dramatic cunts if you call era murderers.

Maybe they're just joking, considering how this forum generally is?

This thread stopped being mostly jokes a while back. Newer posters are dead serious with their crusade against Gaf/Era.

People want charges they're never going to get with this Zoe Quinn and whoeverthefuck scenario.

BB I will not rest until your unjust ban is repealed. 🥰 🙇

[daemon]

Nobody gives a fuck, regardless of your opinion.

You're saying nothing new to me. No1curr is the classic stance of democracy. We only care about general cases that affect a huge chunk of the population. Individuals can fuck off with their life-crippling problems. Just pray, as I said many days ago, you're not in the pointy end of that knife at some point.

[daemon]

Has mac had an account on Era?

We need the god to return

I'll do you one better. Did elfotografoalocado ever reply?

[Uncle]

I need a gif of luke skywalker saying "I curr"

[daemon]

Nobody gives a fuck, regardless of your opinion.

You're saying nothing new to me. No1curr is the classic stance of democracy. We only care about general cases that affects a huge chunk. Individuals can fuck off with their life-crippling problems.

why the fuck are you bringing this up on a thread made to poke fun of self-important people who can't wipe their ass, participate in society, or collect Amiibos.

Because!





I don't know.

[stufte]

Stop careposting, or you're both going to need to take a time out in the corner.

[marrec]

That's why people are having a field day. I said you shouldn't be required to prove that the information is false. It's always on the accuser to prove it's true. But in the case of libel, they fucked up which is why grey area one-on-one cases it's free real estate for the accusers.

Last care post on this cause I'm sure we're reaching care post critical mass but:

Libel works that way because any other system would allow for infringement of free speech by litigious rich people who wanted to scare people into silence. I mean, that already happens too frequently, but it would happen A LOT more frequently if you changed libel law.

To be sure, we should absolutely NOT change libel law in such a way.

[nudemacusers]

Has mac had an account on Era?

We need the god to return

I may be a moderator. 👀 🕵🏻‍♂️

[NegativeCrepe]

they are murderers you fucking idiot they literally say they want people dead, fucking white babies and you get banned if you dont agree

[marrec]

they are murderers you fucking idiot they literally say they want people dead, fucking white babies and you get banned if you dont agree

Cool forum demi

[nudemacusers]

they are murderers you fucking idiot they literally say they want people dead, fucking white babies and you get banned if you dont agree

Cool forum demi

Demi is our Cerium, I blame bore mod captains Bork and the dog guy.

[daemon]

That's why people are having a field day. I said you shouldn't be required to prove that the information is false. It's always on the accuser to prove it's true. But in the case of libel, they fucked up which is why grey area one-on-one cases it's free real estate for the accusers.

Last care post on this cause I'm sure we're reaching care post critical mass but:

Libel works that way because any other system would allow for infringement of free speech by litigious rich people who wanted to scare people into silence. I mean, that already happens too frequently, but it would happen A LOT more frequently if you changed libel law.

To be sure, we should absolutely NOT change libel law in such a way.

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The idea of freedom of speech is not meant to allow me to say you went with prostitutes, used hard drugs, robbed someone in the street, raped someone and a long etcetera of unlawful conducts. Said conducts can't be disproved by libel standards. This is what you say shouldn't be changed, because proving malice is really hard too.

In a good system:
In a case of libel I should be interrogated: when did I see you go with prostitutes, when did I see you using hard drugs, when did I see you rob someone on the street, when and who did I see you rape. Without giving at least some substance I should be held accountable for doing the legal definition of libel.

In a bad system:
You'd need to disprove something you have never done for me to be considered guilty of defamation.


The reason why we have so many public outings on social media is because we're in the bad system, where the law would never give them a win, but the court of public opinion does. So yes, we should absolutely destroy baseless accusations at a court level.

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Hidden carepost, open at your own discretion

Just realize that even mentioning reality, the *consequences* of ERA etc. ruins the vibe of the forum

1)Leaves you open to people curr responding for multiple posts

2)Ignores the reality that "canceled" people only are ever canceled if society at large doesn't like them, Chappelle is fine.

3)The legal matters of whoever the fuck will reach natural conclusions on their own, and that your participation and discussion is meaningless. i.e. you're not keeping Zoe in line by writing a huge wall-of-text

4)It detracts from fun and magnetizes nolifers to come shit up the board with unfunny bullshit and monologues about the state of society

5)It scares away posters with a sense of humor and contributes to this thread being a deluge of *concern* rather than shitposts

I posted someone who was going to commit seppuku and doom coming out on november made him wait. No one commented :sadpepe

[Propagandhim]

[marrec]

We need to be able to effortlessly switch between careposting and shitposting and this is the system that will allow us to do it

Welcome to my TED talk

[Uncle]

Nicknames have a subtle but measurable impact on the way we interact with and think about others

welcome to my theodore talk

[daemon]

ok I've seen the error of my ways since I made marrec look tolerable due to my derail.

[marrec]

I have a reputation to uphold you cretin

[james]

How's your tasty chocolate squid wife?

[marrec]

We're trying to get preggers so she's pretty strict right now about required sex from me at least twice a day it's exhausting ngl

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/catherine-full-body-launch-trailer-ps4.139082/#post-24215395

The fact that Sony is advertising about the game's new localization details sounds like they're in on the transphobia.

#BoycottSony
#IdSuckOffTomHolland
#Free.Cream

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I need a gif of luke skywalker saying "I curr"

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

That's why people are having a field day. I said you shouldn't be required to prove that the information is false. It's always on the accuser to prove it's true. But in the case of libel, they fucked up which is why grey area one-on-one cases it's free real estate for the accusers.

Last care post on this cause I'm sure we're reaching care post critical mass but:

Libel works that way because any other system would allow for infringement of free speech by litigious rich people who wanted to scare people into silence. I mean, that already happens too frequently, but it would happen A LOT more frequently if you changed libel law.

To be sure, we should absolutely NOT change libel law in such a way.

FWIW, that's how UK libel law works.

[james]

We're trying to get preggers so she's pretty strict right now about required sex from me at least twice a day it's exhausting ngl

Do you need help? I'd be happy to tag in.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scarlett-johansson-stands-with-woody-allen-despite-allegations-%E2%80%9Ci-believe-him-and-i-would-work-with-him-anytime%E2%80%9D.139022/

There's no such thing a 'cancel culture' on era, but scarjo is a basic bitch who should fuck off, and I hope she loses her job or they cancel her upcoming film or it bombs, haha.

[OnlyRegret]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scarlett-johansson-stands-with-woody-allen-despite-allegations-%E2%80%9Ci-believe-him-and-i-would-work-with-him-anytime%E2%80%9D.139022/

There's no such thing a 'cancel culture' on era, but scarjo is a basic bitch who should fuck off, and I hope she loses her job or they cancel her upcoming film or it bombs, haha.

Quick take.
Not surprised, Hollycreeps didn't cement themselves or stay at large due to being super secretive. Plenty around them know and either didn't give a shit or were down with it, see: Polanski.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scarlett-johansson-stands-with-woody-allen-despite-allegations-%E2%80%9Ci-believe-him-and-i-would-work-with-him-anytime%E2%80%9D.139022/

There's no such thing a 'cancel culture' on era, but scarjo is a basic bitch who should fuck off, and I hope she loses her job or they cancel her upcoming film or it bombs, haha.

Yawn. These basic white feminists talk a big MeToo game until it's someone they know personally. Fuck off Scarlett.

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[bork]

It always makes me sad when high profile Asian-Americans say dumb things.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/minakimes/status/1169253676923244544

OwO wutz dis @ picture.

[bork]

Way to make sure your Blank Window movie bombs.

Jeez...BW gonna be Marvel first bomb. Thx alot ScarJo.

I think your average rabid movie-going Marvel fan probably doesn't even know who Woody Allen is. 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scarlett-johansson-stands-with-woody-allen-despite-allegations-%E2%80%9Ci-believe-him-and-i-would-work-with-him-anytime%E2%80%9D.139022/

There's no such thing a 'cancel culture' on era, but scarjo is a basic bitch who should fuck off, and I hope she loses her job or they cancel her upcoming film or it bombs, haha.

Yawn. These basic white feminists talk a big MeToo game until it's someone they know personally. Fuck off Scarlett.

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that topics literally all the usual suspects jumping in saying she's untalented, ugly, stupid, basic, she was never any good in anything, and they hope her career tanks.

haha.

[thisismyusername]

Why the fuck do you always seem to go to bat for that shit site? It’s full of horrible people that pretend to give a shit until somebody does something they say is bad and then they engage in harassment via social media.

#AllTAllShade

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-stop-referencing-4chan-and-also-stop-posting-leaks-and-rumors-from-that-site.139100/

I've been thinking with the whole ordeal with the THQ Nordic boycott and people condemning 8chan for what's hosted there, and honestly, 4chan hosts pornographic content that it's simply put, as bad as everything that comes with hardcore pornography, there are levels to what we consider sick and bad, but 4chan is just as bad and even though a few leaks here and there have become true, we have to completely disassociate ourselves from that place, even banning from mentioning the word 4chan or linking to it. We're exposing more and more people to that place and that's just a no-no.
Hell, people here abstain themselves from mentioning the name of "the old forum", let's just go ahead and do the same with 4chan, whatever little info may or may not come from there isn't of big importance anyways.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scarlett-johansson-stands-with-woody-allen-despite-allegations-%E2%80%9Ci-believe-him-and-i-would-work-with-him-anytime%E2%80%9D.139022/

There's no such thing a 'cancel culture' on era, but scarjo is a basic bitch who should fuck off, and I hope she loses her job or they cancel her upcoming film or it bombs, haha.

There argument against the term "cancel culture" isn't that people don't get cancelled. 

Surely you grasp that.

all the fuckers who are most rabid to #cancel people are the same fuckers in any topic asking about cancel culture denying it even exists and saying just using the term is a signifier of being a bigot

[BIONIC]

Cancel Culture is a hoax perpetuated by the Chinese

[thisismyusername]

Stop careposting, or you're both going to need to take a time out in the corner.

Yeah, the only person that can care post in this thread legally is PogiBB. (#PBUH)

[marrec]

We're trying to get preggers so she's pretty strict right now about required sex from me at least twice a day it's exhausting ngl

Do you need help? I'd be happy to tag in.

No man I got it thanks tho

[Nintex]

Cancel culture will get Trump re-elected.
You can either contribute to stop it now or watch it consume rational thought by 2020.

Don't say I didn't warn you. 

 

[marrec]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-stop-referencing-4chan-and-also-stop-posting-leaks-and-rumors-from-that-site.139100/

I've been thinking with the whole ordeal with the THQ Nordic boycott and people condemning 8chan for what's hosted there, and honestly, 4chan hosts pornographic content that it's simply put, as bad as everything that comes with hardcore pornography, there are levels to what we consider sick and bad, but 4chan is just as bad and even though a few leaks here and there have become true, we have to completely disassociate ourselves from that place, even banning from mentioning the word 4chan or linking to it. We're exposing more and more people to that place and that's just a no-no.
Hell, people here abstain themselves from mentioning the name of "the old forum", let's just go ahead and do the same with 4chan, whatever little info may or may not come from there isn't of big importance anyways.

Is this just a way for whiny Nintendo nerds to stop getting their directs spoiled?

[nudemacusers]

We're trying to get preggers so she's pretty strict right now about required sex from me at least twice a day it's exhausting ngl

Do you need help? I'd be happy to tag in.

How many times have you successfully put a baby inside a female (of any species)?

Marrec needs experience not paper certs 

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-stop-referencing-4chan-and-also-stop-posting-leaks-and-rumors-from-that-site.139100/

I've been thinking with the whole ordeal with the THQ Nordic boycott and people condemning 8chan for what's hosted there, and honestly, 4chan hosts pornographic content that it's simply put, as bad as everything that comes with hardcore pornography, there are levels to what we consider sick and bad, but 4chan is just as bad and even though a few leaks here and there have become true, we have to completely disassociate ourselves from that place, even banning from mentioning the word 4chan or linking to it. We're exposing more and more people to that place and that's just a no-no.
Hell, people here abstain themselves from mentioning the name of "the old forum", let's just go ahead and do the same with 4chan, whatever little info may or may not come from there isn't of big importance anyways.

4chan hosts pornographic content that it's simply put, as bad as everything that comes with hardcore pornography

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scarlett-johansson-stands-with-woody-allen-despite-allegations-%E2%80%9Ci-believe-him-and-i-would-work-with-him-anytime%E2%80%9D.139022/

There's no such thing a 'cancel culture' on era, but scarjo is a basic bitch who should fuck off, and I hope she loses her job or they cancel her upcoming film or it bombs, haha.

There argument against the term "cancel culture" isn't that people don't get cancelled. 

Surely you grasp that.

all the fuckers who are most rabid to #cancel people are the same fuckers in any topic asking about cancel culture denying it even exists and saying just using the term is a signifier of being a bigot

Yes they deny they are part of some overzealous culture that cares most about virtue signaling;  they are not denying that cancelling people is a thing.. I mean they use the term endlessly.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-cancel-culture-actually-a-real-thing.138969/

ERA is going to tell you no, but the wider world as a whole will say yes.

It's a right wing dogwhistle like outrage culture.

No because the vast majority of people that whine about it (or are supposedly victimized by it) aren't actually "cancelled" at all, and in fact keep right on going with whatever people were upset with them for in the first place.

It doesn't matter considering nobody has really been cancelled

It's not. It's the same as empty terms like policital correctness, or outrage culture.

For some reason resetera likes to pretend it doesnt exist and it's some weird right wing term even when those participating in "cancel culture" are the ones who have adopted the term and seem to thrive by that.

No it's bullshit used as a deflection by idiots when they're getting called out for something.

There is no cancelled database or some shit.

[Anti-Monitor]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-stop-referencing-4chan-and-also-stop-posting-leaks-and-rumors-from-that-site.139100/

I've been thinking with the whole ordeal with the THQ Nordic boycott and people condemning 8chan for what's hosted there, and honestly, 4chan hosts pornographic content that it's simply put, as bad as everything that comes with hardcore pornography, there are levels to what we consider sick and bad, but 4chan is just as bad and even though a few leaks here and there have become true, we have to completely disassociate ourselves from that place, even banning from mentioning the word 4chan or linking to it. We're exposing more and more people to that place and that's just a no-no.
Hell, people here abstain themselves from mentioning the name of "the old forum", let's just go ahead and do the same with 4chan, whatever little info may or may not come from there isn't of big importance anyways.

4chan hosts pornographic content that it's simply put, as bad as everything that comes with hardcore pornography

Why do they hate porn so much. Porn is fun. It just can't be healthy to hate everything.

[Uncle]

No. It's an entirely normal part of the human condition to not want to support bad behavior. Social media allows marginalized people to have a voice who may not have been heard otherwise and allows for easier dissemination of information so people can make their own decisions. Anyone who uses "cancel culture" unironically likely has some unchecked bigotry or support of marginalization going on in their heads even if they aren't cognizant of it.

[OnlyRegret]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scarlett-johansson-stands-with-woody-allen-despite-allegations-%E2%80%9Ci-believe-him-and-i-would-work-with-him-anytime%E2%80%9D.139022/

There's no such thing a 'cancel culture' on era, but scarjo is a basic bitch who should fuck off, and I hope she loses her job or they cancel her upcoming film or it bombs, haha.

Yawn. These basic white feminists talk a big MeToo game until it's someone they know personally. Fuck off Scarlett.

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that topics literally all the usual suspects jumping in saying she's untalented, ugly, stupid, basic, she was never any good in anything, and they hope her career tanks.

haha.

Quick skim through and nothing leapt out as super awful.
But wouldn't surprise me, some of the ultra-woke are terrible people deep down and revel in bringing to light misogynist/hate/whatever in their soul against a Sanctioned™ target. Makes me regard right leaning women as being steelier people as their allies tend... to be varying degrees of sexist and their opposition enjoy being allowed to call a woman ugly and stupid without backlash.

[Uncle]

GrateMySage is acting like they deny the concept of cancelling people exists... they don't, they endlessly cancel people.  They don't like it being called "cancel culture" for the reason the term was invented.. it's meant to poke fun at them.

there are several quotes in my post that you quoted that literally say it doesn't exist and/or can't happen



additionally there are several that show an awareness that era will say it doesn't exist and/or can't happen

if those people are wrong I believe you have an account in good standing and are able to go correct them

[Uncle]

GrateMySage is acting like they deny the concept of cancelling people exists... they don't, they endlessly cancel people.  They don't like it being called "cancel culture" for the reason the term was invented.. it's meant to poke fun at them.

there are several quotes in my post that you quoted that literally say it doesn't exist and/or can't happen

Yes they claim their is no "cancel culture" not that people don't get cancelled.

When they disparage the term "outrage culture" do you literally think they are claiming nobody ever gets outraged?

It doesn't matter considering nobody has really been cancelled

[Uncle]

I mean that guy is an idiot.

yeah that's probably why you'll see posts like this making fun of the people who say things like that

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scarlett-johansson-stands-with-woody-allen-despite-allegations-%E2%80%9Ci-believe-him-and-i-would-work-with-him-anytime%E2%80%9D.139022/

There's no such thing a 'cancel culture' on era, but scarjo is a basic bitch who should fuck off, and I hope she loses her job or they cancel her upcoming film or it bombs, haha.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

 

whats with rioutous' beef with reading comprehension, anyway?

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The term cancel culture refers to a specific type of mob mentality, where people act like fucking zealots of the One True Faith, demanding any heresy by thought, heresy by word, heresy by deed or heresy by association are punished, and anyone speaking against the One True Faith are themselves suspect of heresy.
Its super fucking shitty behaviour.
Noone actually gives a fucking shit if someone chooses to not partake of someones work any more because they find that person problematic, for whatever reason.

Thats not whats fucking happening.

These people are actively attempting to incite a mob mentality, and then turning any questioning of their reasons and motivations into a casus belli for the mob to then move against the doubters.
It was super shitty under the Spanish Inquisition.
It was super shitty under Joe MacCarthy.
It's super fucking shitty today.

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[Nintex]

This is the problem with modern wokeness

At some point you fail to hide your bias

[Nintex]

I wonder if [SECRET GAME #4] will show up today.

Or maybe [ESHOP EXCLUSIVE #14]. Couldn't be more excited.

RIP Iwatetica


Also in before Benjisales analysis on whether or not the new Pokemon game will be a hit or not.

Does anyone remember when Emily said she expected a new game from a well known publisher on the Switch.
I'm thinking Sonic is back bois.


RESET THE CLOCK

[james]

yall say you dont care about the direct but this thread will get >2 replies while its on

[Nintex]

5 minutes 

[Uncle]

What I meant was.. these people demand other people be cancelled.. they use the term.

I will posit that anyone using that term on era is trolling and fully tongue-in-cheek

no one doing cancelling is calling it that because they're aware of its reputation

you will even see pushback when someone says someone else is cancelling, they'll say things like "no one here is cancelling, don't use that scare term, if people want to make their own informed decision not to consume any of that individual's media and call them out for their behavior it's no one's business but their own  "

random ass examples

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/yoko-shimomura-allegedly-composed-a-tribute-track-for-xxxtentacion-in-the-anniversary-edition-of-his-final-album-according-to-universal-music.135299/post-23649087

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2019-ot3-you-were-at-my-wedding-denise.101959/post-19558836

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kamala-harris-says-busing-should-be-considered-not-mandated.127208/post-22477255

https://www.resetera.com/threads/liam-neesons-real-life-rape-revenge-tale-see-staff-post.97615/#post-17564863

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[james]

Dicks out everybody it is about to begin