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« Reply #47700 on: October 09, 2019, 05:20:58 PM »
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Diablo 3 was on my "to buy someday" list, but I guess I'll pulling it off.

What a shame, I really wanted to play it.

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« Reply #47701 on: October 09, 2019, 05:24:20 PM »
I was going to pick up Warcraft 2 eventually, they lost themselves a valuable customer.  :maf

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« Reply #47702 on: October 09, 2019, 05:30:34 PM »
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She doesn't know how to properly use the clothes dryer. She keeps coming back from the laundry with still wet clothes and says 'it's not working' despite me and everyone else in the building using it just fine.

:lol

i had to check the link after reading this, and it turns out it's one of the least dysfunctional examples listed...  :lol

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« Reply #47703 on: October 09, 2019, 05:34:07 PM »
I'd like to imagine that the poster went around the building and asked everyone if the machine worked for them, rather than putting the clothes back in and hitting start
:O

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« Reply #47704 on: October 09, 2019, 05:38:18 PM »
no it's not the kind where you just press a start button you have to pull the dial toward you
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« Reply #47705 on: October 09, 2019, 05:38:32 PM »
In other news, Tyler going full magatard.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/elizabeth-warren-claims-patriarchy-discriminated-against-her-pregnancy-and-fired-her-as-a-special-needs-teacher-contradicting-records-and-own-story.1505893/

That chick not letting him fuck her in a puddle of her own vomit really broke his socially stunted ass.

Rufus

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« Reply #47706 on: October 09, 2019, 05:40:29 PM »
The slippery slope of logical progression still doesn't exist, right?
You're right in the sense that both boil down to money. Or do you really think kowtowing to China is a logical consequence of bannig ragenauts and edgelord teenagers from online games? :doge

VomKriege

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« Reply #47707 on: October 09, 2019, 05:53:29 PM »
It's not mutually exclusive that China might be a "bad" actor or role model for global politics and that some of the criticism might be simplistic, reactionary and predicated on xenophobia more than reasoned arguments.
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« Reply #47708 on: October 09, 2019, 06:01:14 PM »
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Diablo 3 was on my "to buy someday" list, but I guess I'll pulling it off.

What a shame, I really wanted to play it.

 :heh
Dat loyal customer base
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Uncle

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« Reply #47709 on: October 09, 2019, 06:06:27 PM »
it really is amazing how everyone is opportunistically coming together from different sources of hatred

libs hate human rights violations
cons hate china gaining power
racists hate the chinese
for some reason both capitalists and internet communists hate the erosion of rights in a capitalist state
muslims hate their culture getting destroyed
true gamers hate diablo immortal
steam fanboys hate epic and the tencent connection
epic fanboys hate that now they have to be wary about this shit
everyone is happy for any excuse to hate the NBA

everyone coming together to direct their hatred all at once  :-[



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« Reply #47710 on: October 09, 2019, 06:06:33 PM »
The precedent, infrastructure and technology developed today to engage in mass automated deplatforming will be used tomorrow to engage in mass automated deplatforming. It's totally understandable why Blizzard thought this was no biggy since journos normally advocate for this type of stuff.

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« Reply #47711 on: October 09, 2019, 06:08:48 PM »
The precedent, infrastructure and technology developed today to engage in mass automated deplatforming will be used tomorrow to engage in mass automated deplatforming. It's totally understandable why Blizzard thought this was no biggy since journos normally advocate for this type of stuff.

 :doge

Rufus

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« Reply #47712 on: October 09, 2019, 06:11:43 PM »
The precedent, infrastructure and technology developed today to engage in mass automated deplatforming will be used tomorrow to engage in mass automated deplatforming. It's totally understandable why Blizzard thought this was no biggy since journos normally advocate for this type of stuff.
Well, thanks for clarifying. Now I know you're smooth  :brain ed.

Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #47713 on: October 09, 2019, 06:14:38 PM »
In other news, Tyler going full magatard.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/elizabeth-warren-claims-patriarchy-discriminated-against-her-pregnancy-and-fired-her-as-a-special-needs-teacher-contradicting-records-and-own-story.1505893/

That chick not letting him fuck her in a puddle of her own vomit really broke his socially stunted ass.

Posting, Youtube bobblehead sourcing NYPOST which is sourcing Washington Beacon.

:lol

ResetBanBot

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« Reply #47714 on: October 09, 2019, 06:16:00 PM »
Imagine spending years telling everyone how great corporate censorship is, trying to pressure as many organizations as possible to engage with mass censorship. Including Blizzard specifically. What changed? Nothing. It's the exact same. Why would anyone reasonably expect journos not to applaud the deplatforming of such a toxic individual?

Rufus

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« Reply #47715 on: October 09, 2019, 06:16:54 PM »
Keep trying to make the square peg fit into the round hole, mate. It's gonna work eventually.

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« Reply #47716 on: October 09, 2019, 06:19:35 PM »
How? They're a private company and is they're right to disassociate from a toxic politically incorrect individual.

Uncle

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« Reply #47717 on: October 09, 2019, 06:20:00 PM »
The precedent, infrastructure and technology developed today to engage in mass automated deplatforming will be used tomorrow to engage in mass automated deplatforming. It's totally understandable why Blizzard thought this was no biggy since journos normally advocate for this type of stuff.
Well, thanks for clarifying. Now I know you're smooth  :brain ed.

even if there are some pretty specific reasons why this incident resonates differently, where is the lie with observing that "company bans/deplatforms player/user for perceived offensive statement" has been happening constantly and persistently for ages now

and that under not-that-different circumstances era would be parroting "good" all over the place

can't you see that being the refrain if someone was banned for pro israel statements?
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« Reply #47718 on: October 09, 2019, 06:24:46 PM »
We're reaching levels of obliviousness and obtuseness that shouldn't even possible. Eat your hypocrite pie.

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« Reply #47719 on: October 09, 2019, 06:26:27 PM »
The precedent, infrastructure and technology developed today to engage in mass automated deplatforming will be used tomorrow to engage in mass automated deplatforming. It's totally understandable why Blizzard thought this was no biggy since journos normally advocate for this type of stuff.
Well, thanks for clarifying. Now I know you're smooth  :brain ed.

even if there are some pretty specific reasons why this incident resonates differently, where is the lie with observing that "company bans/deplatforms player/user for perceived offensive statement" has been happening constantly and persistently for ages now.

While this is true enough, you should also consider that this case is probably bigger and most disturbing than most cases.

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that under not-that-different circumstances era would be parroting "good" all over the place

Pretty sure one big problem was not giving him the price money and there is not exactly anything offensive with his political opinion. This is not also the first time China gets triggered because someone mentions liberation of some territory they claim to have.

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you see that being the refrain if someone was banned for pro israel statements?

Nobody is gonna be banned for that.

VomKriege

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« Reply #47720 on: October 09, 2019, 06:28:23 PM »
You wouldn't speak ill of the hypocrite pie if you had the one my Grandma makes.
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« Reply #47721 on: October 09, 2019, 06:28:27 PM »
While this is true enough, you should also consider that this case is probably bigger and most disturbing than most cases.
It's objectively not. To qualify for even entering the top 10 he needs to blacklisted from the entire industry and/or commit suicide.

Rufus

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« Reply #47722 on: October 09, 2019, 06:30:43 PM »
How? They're a privatw company and is they're right to disassociate from a toxic politically incorrect individual?
They folded because their bottom line was threatened. End of that story.

"Censorship infrastructure" wasn't involved either, but you keep trying to make a bridge to chat filters and journos complaining about slurs and shouty nerds in online games... Such infrastructure eventually being misused (or 'misused') is indeed generally true, I think, but again, it doesn't even apply in this case. Blitzchung said his piece on a public broadcast.
Or do you count whatever fastrack got his ass booted and Blizzard's spine removed as censorship infrastructure?

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« Reply #47723 on: October 09, 2019, 06:31:25 PM »
I was going to pick up Warcraft 2 eventually, they lost themselves a valuable customer.  :maf

I heard on REE that it’s okay as long as you pirate it.
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Boredfrom

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« Reply #47724 on: October 09, 2019, 06:31:30 PM »
While this is true enough, you should also consider that this case is probably bigger and most disturbing than most cases.
It's objectively not. To qualify for even entering the top 10 he needs to blacklisted from the entire industry and/or commit suicide.

 :doge :brain

Seriously dude, you dont see the diference of fighting some hipster grifters to a economic superpower?

PogiJones

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« Reply #47725 on: October 09, 2019, 06:32:59 PM »
If I seem to recall correctly, The Bore dot com (which spawned from NaziGaf in case you didn't know—I'm an expert in online gaming forums) harboured a convicted paedophile, a sister fucker, and had literal communists on it.

TVC feeling left out rn

Rufus

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« Reply #47726 on: October 09, 2019, 06:33:52 PM »
even if there are some pretty specific reasons why this incident resonates differently, where is the lie with observing that "company bans/deplatforms player/user for perceived offensive statement" has been happening constantly and persistently for ages now
Because one is about pleasing their customers (aploplectic minority that may be), while the other is about brown-nosing a foreign government so it doesn't turn their money hose off. One makes them look bad on Twitter, the other makes them look bad on financial statements. I don't get why he's trying to equate the two.

Well, I do understand that he finds journo outrage odious, but... There's no actual link. /shrug
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Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #47727 on: October 09, 2019, 06:36:57 PM »
You wouldn't speak ill of the hypocrite pie if you had the one my Grandma makes.

I heard she makes it with cream.

ResetBanBot

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« Reply #47728 on: October 09, 2019, 06:37:53 PM »
How? They're a privatw company and is they're right to disassociate from a toxic politically incorrect individual?
They folded because their bottom line was threatened. End of that story.

"Censorship infrastructure" wasn't involved either, but you keep trying to make a bridge to chat filters and journos complaining about slurs and shouty nerds in online games... Such infrastructure eventually being misused (or 'misused') is indeed generally true, I think, but again, it doesn't even apply in this case. Blitzchung said his piece on a public broadcast.
Or do you count whatever fastrack got his ass booted and Blizzard's spine removed as censorship infrastructure?
I also said precedent, and the precedent for confiscating (stealing) someone prize pool had already been set in context to politically incorrect statements, and journos/ResetEra applauded Blizzard specifically because of that. I'm still confused why those two groups now suddenly disagree with this practice.

Seriously dude, you dont see the diference of fighting some hipster grifters to a economic superpower?
We're talking about most severe deplatforming here, the guy lost his prize pool. That's objectively a mild deplatforming. The commentators were technically deplatformed harder than the actual guy, because he was already deplatforming resistant since he wasn't employed by them anyways.

VomKriege

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« Reply #47729 on: October 09, 2019, 06:44:27 PM »
Another relationship thread. Not to cackle too much about the guy because he's been hurt before but :

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I've been with this person for nearly 5 years. In the first year of our relationship we had trust issues that needed to be ironed out. We made a mutual decision to remove anyone that we've had any romantic connection or interest in from social media.

:larry
That's not a good start.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-sitting-here-at-work-and-cant-concentrate-because-i-think-i-may-be-getting-cheated-on.146057/
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Boredfrom

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« Reply #47730 on: October 09, 2019, 06:44:31 PM »
 :doge :brain

Rufus

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« Reply #47731 on: October 09, 2019, 06:45:13 PM »
I also said precedent, and the precedent for confiscating (stealing) someone prize pool had already been set in context to politically incorrect statements, and journos/ResetEra applauded Blizzard specifically because of that. I'm still confused why those two groups now suddenly disagree with this practice.
Are you really? :beli
Because 'support HK' is not offensive to them. Boom. Gottem. This is obvious to everybody, dude. You didn't have to make a stupid slippery slope argument to make that point. :doge

PogiJones

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« Reply #47732 on: October 09, 2019, 06:45:54 PM »
BanBot's right that in an ideal world, when people complain about something someone said, an employer could only say, "And what do you want me to do about it?" Like now, if you tell a local grocery store, "That guy said something offensive a week ago!" the grocery store would be like, "Oh. Anyway, here's your change," because we as a society have not put the responsibility of social punishment on grocery stores, nor have we given them the power to do so.

But now, as people advocate more and more for workplaces being responsible for enforcing "good behavior" unrelated to work, large companies ill-equipped for such a role are expected to act as societal enforcers. They fear social backlash and yet also gain more power in the process, thus leading to absurd results like we're seeing now.

If the social enforcement expectation and power were removed, China could complain all it wants, and Blizzard would just be like, "Yeah but we can't do anything about it."

That's how they relate.


TL;DR: The very concept of companies as societal enforcers is absurd, in all its various manifestations.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2019, 06:50:08 PM by PogiJones »

Rufus

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« Reply #47733 on: October 09, 2019, 07:01:20 PM »
They fear social backlash and yet also gain more power in the process, thus leading to absurd results like we're seeing now.
Blizzard runs the Overwatch league because they want to profit from it themselves, rather than some 3rd party like with Starcraft. They didn't make that decision to please journalists or RE.
They do business in China because they want their money. China puts ridiculous restrictions on doing business in their country because it's a totalitarian state with a protectionist agenda.
As such, Blizzard saw fit to throw one of their pro players under the bus and grovel.

Blizzard would have done the exact same thing with or without the last 5 to 10 years of woke online activism.

If the social enforcement expectation and power were removed, China could complain all it wants, and Blizzard would just be like, "Yeah but we can't do anything about it."
If China weren't what it is, this would not be a story, yes.

ResetBanBot

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« Reply #47734 on: October 09, 2019, 07:02:26 PM »
Are you really? :beli
Because 'support HK' is not offensive to them. Boom. Gottem. This is obvious to everybody, dude. You didn't have to make a stupid slippery slope argument to make that point. :doge
Oh, because they're hypocrites? Do you think they're self-aware or they're just that stupid?

My obtuseness has resolved.

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« Reply #47735 on: October 09, 2019, 07:03:51 PM »
it really is amazing how everyone is opportunistically coming together from different sources of hatred

libs hate human rights violations
cons hate china gaining power
racists hate the chinese
for some reason both capitalists and internet communists hate the erosion of rights in a capitalist state
muslims hate their culture getting destroyed
true gamers hate diablo immortal
steam fanboys hate epic and the tencent connection
epic fanboys hate that now they have to be wary about this shit
everyone is happy for any excuse to hate the NBA

everyone coming together to direct their hatred all at once  :-[

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And alone in their defense? The ever-belligerant Contrarians.  :salute

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« Reply #47736 on: October 09, 2019, 07:04:06 PM »
BanBot's right that in an ideal world, when people complain about something someone said, an employer could only say, "And what do you want me to do about it?" Like now, if you tell a local grocery store, "That guy said something offensive a week ago!" the grocery store would be like, "Oh. Anyway, here's your change," because we as a society have not put the responsibility of social punishment on grocery stores, nor have we given them the power to do so.

But now, as people advocate more and more for workplaces being responsible for enforcing "good behavior" unrelated to work, large companies ill-equipped for such a role are expected to act as societal enforcers. They fear social backlash and yet also gain more power in the process, thus leading to absurd results like we're seeing now.

If the social enforcement expectation and power were removed, China could complain all it wants, and Blizzard would just be like, "Yeah but we can't do anything about it."

That's how they relate.


TL;DR: The very concept of companies as societal enforcers is absurd, in all its various manifestations.
Fight the corporatocracy by forcing corporate entities to become a corporatocracy!
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PogiJones

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« Reply #47737 on: October 09, 2019, 07:08:47 PM »
They fear social backlash and yet also gain more power in the process, thus leading to absurd results like we're seeing now.
Blizzard runs the Overwatch league because they want to profit from it themselves, rather than some 3rd party like with Starcraft. They didn't make that decision to please journalists or RE.
They do business in China because they want their money. China puts ridiculous restrictions on doing business in their country because it's a totalitarian state with a protectionist agenda.
As such, Blizzard saw fit to throw one of their pro players under the bus and grovel.

Blizzard would have done the exact same thing with or without the last 5 to 10 years of woke online activism.

If the social enforcement expectation and power were removed, China could complain all it wants, and Blizzard would just be like, "Yeah but we can't do anything about it."
If China weren't what it is, this would not be a story, yes.

I didn't say it was cause and effect, woke causes this. I said that BanBot was right that the societal structure that internet mobs advocate--companies being societal enforcers--is what enables situations like this. That doesn't mean that woke people cause China. BanBot's pointing out that China is what you get when you allow societal wrongthink enforcement to keep growing and growing.

Boredfrom

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« Reply #47738 on: October 09, 2019, 07:10:47 PM »
Are you really? :beli
Because 'support HK' is not offensive to them. Boom. Gottem. This is obvious to everybody, dude. You didn't have to make a stupid slippery slope argument to make that point. :doge
Oh, because they're hypocrites? Do you think they're self-aware or they're just that stupid?

My obtuseness has resolved.

Dude, I get partially your point but you are also comparing idiots getting mad because someone said something offensive in a stream to someone making a political statement about a situation where people are losing lives and getting hurt.

Rufus

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« Reply #47739 on: October 09, 2019, 07:12:11 PM »
Are you really? :beli
Because 'support HK' is not offensive to them. Boom. Gottem. This is obvious to everybody, dude. You didn't have to make a stupid slippery slope argument to make that point. :doge
Oh, because they're hypocrites? Do you think they're self-aware or they're just that stupid?

My obtuseness has resolved.
No, I think they're self-interested primates like the rest of us. You won't find a human being who is not a hypocrite on some level. I'm sorry. :doge

I'll treat you like JayDubya going forward. Smile and nod.

Rufus

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« Reply #47740 on: October 09, 2019, 07:13:44 PM »
I didn't say it was cause and effect, woke causes this. I said that BanBot was right that the societal structure that internet mobs advocate--companies being societal enforcers--is what enables situations like this.
And I outlined why that is wrong in the case of Blizzard. Blizzard did this to please China, not to please US consumers. obviously. Why do they need to please China? You already know.

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« Reply #47741 on: October 09, 2019, 07:17:58 PM »

Boredfrom

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« Reply #47742 on: October 09, 2019, 07:18:23 PM »
They fear social backlash and yet also gain more power in the process, thus leading to absurd results like we're seeing now.
Blizzard runs the Overwatch league because they want to profit from it themselves, rather than some 3rd party like with Starcraft. They didn't make that decision to please journalists or RE.
They do business in China because they want their money. China puts ridiculous restrictions on doing business in their country because it's a totalitarian state with a protectionist agenda.
As such, Blizzard saw fit to throw one of their pro players under the bus and grovel.

Blizzard would have done the exact same thing with or without the last 5 to 10 years of woke online activism.

If the social enforcement expectation and power were removed, China could complain all it wants, and Blizzard would just be like, "Yeah but we can't do anything about it."
If China weren't what it is, this would not be a story, yes.

I didn't say it was cause and effect, woke causes this. I said that BanBot was right that the societal structure that internet mobs advocate--companies being societal enforcers--is what enables situations like this. That doesn't mean that woke people cause China. BanBot's pointing out that China is what you get when you allow societal wrongthink enforcement to keep growing and growing.

China has acted like this way before the internet. (Remember the Tibet?). And the real reason why companies are getting afraid is that their bottom line is affected and China operates in a way that pretty much every company is influenced by the state.

Banbot is not exactly wrong in thinking that there is a lot of people that are bitching about this but they would glady support something like China controlling the internet and the media, but this is nothing new and he expresses himself in a half assed way.

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« Reply #47743 on: October 09, 2019, 07:19:07 PM »
All these folks waking up to Blizzard South being shit and I'm just sitting here like "Blizzard's been dead since North died, my dudes."

Diablo 3 is a better game than Diablo 2

I’m being dead serious here, please kill yourself.

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« Reply #47744 on: October 09, 2019, 07:20:18 PM »
And I outlined why that is wrong in the case of Blizzard. Blizzard did this to please China, not to please US consumers. obviously. Why do they need to please China? You already know.

You're not following.

China is forcing companies that do business there to be societal enforcers. They're an extreme example of it, because instead of the company being boycotted, they get kicked from the country. The expectation is the same: Companies must be societal enforcers or face the consequences.

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« Reply #47745 on: October 09, 2019, 07:23:43 PM »
And I outlined why that is wrong in the case of Blizzard. Blizzard did this to please China, not to please US consumers. obviously. Why do they need to please China? You already know.

You're not following.

China is forcing companies that do business there to be societal enforcers. They're an extreme example of it, because instead of the company being boycotted, they get kicked from the country. The expectation is the same: Companies must be societal enforcers or face the consequences.
I didn't say it was cause and effect, woke causes this. I said that BanBot was right that the societal structure that internet mobs advocate--companies being societal enforcers--is what enables situations like this.
Well, pardon me for misunderstanding. :beli

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« Reply #47746 on: October 09, 2019, 07:24:31 PM »
This is the logical outcome of years of advocacy for deplatforming by western journalists. Unpopular speech is hate speech, and hate speech isn't free speech. But it's all privatized, so it's not actually totalitarian censorship. It's only a matter of time until a privatized social credit scoring system comes to the west. Eventually your popular opinion will become unpopular you can become a political dissident too. The idea that "HK is an independent state" is an acceptable view is highly ethnocentric and understood as hate speech outside of this bubble.

Not everyone is a hypocrite, some people advocate for people who utterly despise them because it is the fair thing to do.

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« Reply #47747 on: October 09, 2019, 07:24:32 PM »
All these folks waking up to Blizzard South being shit and I'm just sitting here like "Blizzard's been dead since North died, my dudes."

Diablo 3 is a better game than Diablo 2

This. It may not have been when it was first launched, but it's now the best Diablo game out there by far.

thisismyusername

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« Reply #47748 on: October 09, 2019, 07:24:49 PM »
Pogi should just shut up and post hog already. :uguu

PogiJones

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« Reply #47749 on: October 09, 2019, 07:27:17 PM »
Dude, this is really simple:

Internet mobs try to force companies to be societal enforcers.
China forces companies that do business there to be societal enforcers.

No cause/effect between internet mobs and China. Just an observation/warning of what the structure that internet mobs advocate (companies as societal enforcers) may become.

There is no inconsistency in those two posts you quoted. Just you missing the point. Again.

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« Reply #47750 on: October 09, 2019, 07:28:38 PM »
This is the logical outcome of years of advocacy for deplatforming by western journalists.
No, it's the logical outcome of doing business in China.

It's only a matter of time until a privatized social credit scoring system comes to the west.
This is tinfoil hat nonsense by and large, but I'll play.

What I see coming instead, somewhat serious about this, are 'incentives' for better living from insureance companies. Sign up to have your lifestyle monitored for reduced rates. Misbehave? (Smoke, sedentary, etc.) Pay more. Everyone who doesn't sign up pays more by default.

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« Reply #47751 on: October 09, 2019, 07:30:01 PM »
This is the logical outcome of years of advocacy for deplatforming by western journalists. Unpopular speech is hate speech, and hate speech isn't free speech. But it's all privatized, so it's not actually totalitarian censorship. It's only a matter of time until a privatized social credit scoring system comes to the west. Eventually your popular opinion will become unpopular you can become a political dissident too. The idea that "HK is an independent state" is an acceptable view is highly ethnocentric and understood as hate speech outside of this bubble.

Not everyone is a hypocrite, some people advocate for people who utterly despise them because it is the fair thing to do.

The problem is that you are saying this when this has been the bonus operandi of China way before woke idiots started doing it. You can pin point the hypocrisy of them not connecting the dots of free speech still need to be defended in the corporate world, but you are talking like this is a effect of “cancel culture” in social media when has been the standard modus operandi on China since decades.

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« Reply #47752 on: October 09, 2019, 07:31:29 PM »
Dude, this is really simple:

Internet mobs try to force companies to be societal enforcers.
China forces companies that do business there to be societal enforcers.

No cause/effect between internet mobs and China. Just an observation/warning of what the structure that internet mobs advocate (companies as societal enforcers) may become.

There is no inconsistency in those two posts you quoted. Just you missing the point. Again.

The problem is that BanBot is arguing this.  :picard

He just said “this is the logical outcome...”. For god sake, Pogi.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #47753 on: October 09, 2019, 07:31:43 PM »
Blizzard South continuing to fail: https://twitter.com/Espsilverfire2/status/1182001007976423424/
there is only one way to delete a bnet account and its not automated, this broad is full of it

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #47754 on: October 09, 2019, 07:32:04 PM »
If you guys keep this up, me and philip cardrage are gonna spam this thread with ascii porn

still waiting on this
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #47755 on: October 09, 2019, 07:32:07 PM »
This is the logical outcome of years of advocacy for deplatforming by western journalists. Unpopular speech is hate speech, and hate speech isn't free speech. But it's all privatized, so it's not actually totalitarian censorship. It's only a matter of time until a privatized social credit scoring system comes to the west. Eventually your popular opinion will become unpopular you can become a political dissident too. The idea that "HK is an independent state" is an acceptable view is highly ethnocentric and understood as hate speech outside of this bubble.

Not everyone is a hypocrite, some people advocate for people who utterly despise them because it is the fair thing to do.

The problem is that you are saying this when this has been the bonus operandi of China way before woke idiots started doing it. You can pin point the hypocrisy of them not connecting the dots of free speech still need to be defended in the corporate world, but you are talking like this is a effect of “cancel culture” in social media when has been the standard modus operandi on China since decades.
Are you suggesting that ResetEra and woke-culture has Maoist influences? Social justice cannibalism and cancel-culture has always reminded me a bit of struggle sessions.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #47756 on: October 09, 2019, 07:33:51 PM »
The problem is that BanBot is arguing this.  :picard

Kinda-sorta, yeah, but his posts are pretty all over the place, so I'm not sure if he actually is, or if he's just coming off like he is.

But I jumped in because BanBot originally pointed out the structure between the two situations is the same, and Rufus said there's no common structure, so I decided to clarify the common structure between them.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #47757 on: October 09, 2019, 07:34:26 PM »
This is the logical outcome of years of advocacy for deplatforming by western journalists. Unpopular speech is hate speech, and hate speech isn't free speech. But it's all privatized, so it's not actually totalitarian censorship. It's only a matter of time until a privatized social credit scoring system comes to the west. Eventually your popular opinion will become unpopular you can become a political dissident too. The idea that "HK is an independent state" is an acceptable view is highly ethnocentric and understood as hate speech outside of this bubble.

Not everyone is a hypocrite, some people advocate for people who utterly despise them because it is the fair thing to do.

The problem is that you are saying this when this has been the bonus operandi of China way before woke idiots started doing it. You can pin point the hypocrisy of them not connecting the dots of free speech still need to be defended in the corporate world, but you are talking like this is a effect of “cancel culture” in social media when has been the standard modus operandi on China since decades.
Are you suggesting that ResetEra and woke-culture has Maoist influences? Social justice cannibalism and cancel-culture has always reminded me a bit of struggle sessions.

I will say authoritarian.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #47758 on: October 09, 2019, 07:35:30 PM »
Dude, this is really simple:

Internet mobs try to force companies to be societal enforcers.
China forces companies that do business there to be societal enforcers.

No cause/effect between internet mobs and China. Just an observation/warning of what the structure that internet mobs advocate (companies as societal enforcers) may become.

There is no inconsistency in those two posts you quoted. Just you missing the point. Again.

ResetEra isn’t upset about corporate cancel culture, it’s upset at this specific target.  Getting a company to deplatform racists is acceptable, but targeting someone trying to protect their rights from asshole China is not.

It’s the exact same issue they had when James Gunn was cancelled.

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« Reply #47759 on: October 09, 2019, 07:36:03 PM »
There is no inconsistency in those two posts you quoted. Just you missing the point. Again.
I'll accept what you wanted to have said as what you did say, even though you didn't. :hmph