I'm the Joker, baby! |OT| Incels Rise UP

[Boredfrom]

I mean, I know the woke-mob has developed a real taste for violence after Etika and Alec Holowka, but I don’t think that makes it right to continue egging things on.

 

 

[curly]

A bunch of the negative Joker reviews are so laughably transparent in their political bent.

"But the crucial parody, the crucial mockery, the work of which “Joker” comes off as a callously commercial imitation, is “Black Panther”—a comic-book-based movie that infuses its framework with rigorously conceived and boldly assertive political visions to go with its elaborate world-building."

- The New Yorker

The guardian review mentions incels and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro, the alt-right and other shit.

The new york times whines

"...from Phillips himself, who has been sounding off about the “far left” and “woke culture” and other threats to the ability of a murderous clown to make money unmolested."

Scared to say it was bad, upset this is happening in CURRENT YEAR.

"There’s an inherent worry saying Joker is a bad movie, particularly with the knowledge that female writers have been threatened for stating just such an opinion. But it’s telling a telling statement, both from the angle of women being terrorized to readers being so riled up over a review that they would go to such lengths. Maybe that’s what happens when a movie so unabashedly strives to give justification to the Clown Prince of Evil’s actions as Todd Phillips’ Joker does."

-Some rando @ culturess.com

The Salon review though, wow.

 

"Is it a dangerous manifesto that could inspire incels to commit acts of violence, as some of its critics fear? The answer is yes.."

and

And yes, there is good reason to worry that this film will appeal to incels. The character of Sophie Dumond (Zazie Beetz) exists for no other purpose than to be a supposed love interest who is stalked, obsessed over, has her apartment broken into, and is eventually reduced to a plot gimmick. She is, in other words, an object in Fleck's world rather than a three-dimensional character, with her main function that of reinforcing Fleck's sense of failure and justify his resentments against the world. This is perhaps an intentional parallel to Cybill Shepherd's Betsy from "Taxi Driver," but we actually saw Robert De Niro's Travis Bickle interact with her in meaningful ways and learned about her as a person. While Sophie isn't vilified, the simplistic and objectifying nature of her story arc is problematic, and meshes uneasily with a movie that is aimed at the violently embittered.

-Salon

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Get a life bro

 

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Really, getting mad because a comic book film. Is really detestable. 

[close]

Says the dude who read like every review of this movie to prove the critics are biased against it 

[Boredfrom]

A bunch of the negative Joker reviews are so laughably transparent in their political bent.

"But the crucial parody, the crucial mockery, the work of which “Joker” comes off as a callously commercial imitation, is “Black Panther”—a comic-book-based movie that infuses its framework with rigorously conceived and boldly assertive political visions to go with its elaborate world-building."

- The New Yorker

The guardian review mentions incels and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro, the alt-right and other shit.

The new york times whines

"...from Phillips himself, who has been sounding off about the “far left” and “woke culture” and other threats to the ability of a murderous clown to make money unmolested."

Scared to say it was bad, upset this is happening in CURRENT YEAR.

"There’s an inherent worry saying Joker is a bad movie, particularly with the knowledge that female writers have been threatened for stating just such an opinion. But it’s telling a telling statement, both from the angle of women being terrorized to readers being so riled up over a review that they would go to such lengths. Maybe that’s what happens when a movie so unabashedly strives to give justification to the Clown Prince of Evil’s actions as Todd Phillips’ Joker does."

-Some rando @ culturess.com

The Salon review though, wow.

 

"Is it a dangerous manifesto that could inspire incels to commit acts of violence, as some of its critics fear? The answer is yes.."

and

And yes, there is good reason to worry that this film will appeal to incels. The character of Sophie Dumond (Zazie Beetz) exists for no other purpose than to be a supposed love interest who is stalked, obsessed over, has her apartment broken into, and is eventually reduced to a plot gimmick. She is, in other words, an object in Fleck's world rather than a three-dimensional character, with her main function that of reinforcing Fleck's sense of failure and justify his resentments against the world. This is perhaps an intentional parallel to Cybill Shepherd's Betsy from "Taxi Driver," but we actually saw Robert De Niro's Travis Bickle interact with her in meaningful ways and learned about her as a person. While Sophie isn't vilified, the simplistic and objectifying nature of her story arc is problematic, and meshes uneasily with a movie that is aimed at the violently embittered.

-Salon

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Get a life bro

 

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Really, getting mad because a comic book film. Is really detestable. 

[close]

Says the dude who read like every review of this movie to prove the critics are biased against it 

 

[team filler]

any good cams out? i might give it a watch

[curly]

 

All u incels look the same to me

[Boredfrom]

 

All u incels look the same to me

I don’t even have a Avatar, dude. Dunno why you will confuse me with Stufte.

[Boredfrom]

Its an interesting balance because the death of the welfare capitalist state is the material fuel for the unrest in the movie, but it's counterbalanced by portraying the movement in question as a group of revanchist bloodthirsty lumpen criminals getting behind a terrorist with no moral compass.

 

[Boredfrom]

Boredfrom, you do realize any sort of political take on entertainment doesn't always mean "REEEEE" right?

Nah, this is about personal experiences.

[EchoRin]

Thank God, Shinobi's son's favorite superhero was there to save the day.

Shinobi was right. He actually is black. I was wrong all along.

[curly]

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/youre-not-going-to-remember-any-of-this-shit-joker-re-1838770612

But all of this comes together to make Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck the perfect Joker for our era; something that produces a whirlwind or reaction and counter-reaction, to the point that people are absolutely positive every theater will produce one mass shooting or that Joker will replace all western canon, and after all that, we get a positively unremarkable expedition that will be forgotten by Thanksgiving, a product of a media economy where three companies who make everything keep it as efficient as possible by just making a few types of media properties and hoping people will tear each other apart in the cramped space to increase every product’s Q rating. It is an endless debate over a social phenomenon it’s not actually about, a boring culture war that will have no resolution, and a million jokes people on either side of it don’t actually have fun telling. It’s a bunch of clenched, gritting smiles that made Warner Brothers millions of dollars, and then you go home, more likely to die from boring yet equally evil indignities than getting killed at a culturally relevant event.

so in the end it was about society

[Boredfrom]

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/youre-not-going-to-remember-any-of-this-shit-joker-re-1838770612

But all of this comes together to make Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck the perfect Joker for our era; something that produces a whirlwind or reaction and counter-reaction, to the point that people are absolutely positive every theater will produce one mass shooting or that Joker will replace all western canon, and after all that, we get a positively unremarkable expedition that will be forgotten by Thanksgiving, a product of a media economy where three companies who make everything keep it as efficient as possible by just making a few types of media properties and hoping people will tear each other apart in the cramped space to increase every product’s Q rating. It is an endless debate over a social phenomenon it’s not actually about, a boring culture war that will have no resolution, and a million jokes people on either side of it don’t actually have fun telling. It’s a bunch of clenched, gritting smiles that made Warner Brothers millions of dollars, and then you go home, more likely to die from boring yet equally evil indignities than getting killed at a culturally relevant event.

so in the end it was about society

So how was the movie?

Boredfrom, you do realize any sort of political take on entertainment doesn't always mean "REEEEE" right?

The joker gets to say we live in a society, but we can't

 

[curly]

so how was the movie

the link to the full review is right there

[Boredfrom]

so how was the movie

the link to the full review is right there

Is your review? Nice.

[curly]

why are you so weirdly aggro about defending this movie

[Boredfrom]

why are you so weirdly aggro about defending this movie

Because I don’t like people shitting on entertainment and art because shallow politics. Esch actually has a interesting perspective about the film, a perspective that sounds sincere (even if I disagree).

[curly]

then maybe you should actually read the link before being a whiny bitch about it

[Boredfrom]

then maybe you should actually read the link before being a whiny bitch about it

The author sounds like a whiny little bitch even in the parts I agree with him. 

boredform is the incel RE fears

 

[stufte]

The Joker will be this generations Gone with the wind. You can hate it all you want, but it'll be a movie shown in every history class around the world for generations to come.

[Boredfrom]

The Joker will be this generations Gone with the wind. You can hate it all you want, but it'll be a movie shown in every history class around the world for generations to come.

Kappa

[EchoRin]

Boredfrom, are you gonna dress up like the Joker for Halloween this year? Did you dress up as Heath's Joker 10 years ago? 

[Boredfrom]

Boredfrom, are you gonna dress up like the Joker for Halloween this year? Did you dress up as Heath's Joker 10 years ago? 

 

Día de los Muertos, motherfucker.

[EchoRin]

I don't speak Taco Bell. American please.

[Boredfrom]

I don't speak Taco Bell. American please.

That Pixar film about spooky skeletons.

[Boredfrom]

the film is inherently political due to its subject matter though, so critics have to address it politically.

Many addressed it in a shallow political way that doesn’t sound much different from moral panics from decades ago. For political climate were a lot of people are saying that “we know and should do better than making silly problematic jokes from a decade ago”, we got exactly in the same trappings of old moral guardians. I think people are confusing me getting annoyed by endorsing the film (I don’t plan to see it anytime soon, sounds like misery porn ).

I should mention that when I quoted you it was less because your opinion of the film and more about the idea you planted there.

The Joker will be this generations Gone with the wind. You can hate it all you want, but it'll be a movie shown in every history class around the world for generations to come.

LMAO you can't predict that type of shit.

 

I’m pretty sure it was sarcasm.

[stufte]

The Joker will be this generations Gone with the wind. You can hate it all you want, but it'll be a movie shown in every history class around the world for generations to come.

LMAO you can't predict that type of shit.

Of course I can. I'm an expert, unlike yourself.

[The Sceneman]

IM THE JOKAH BAYBEE. Going to see it tomrrow

[Great Rumbler]

It's mainly Disney stans scared that Warner is coming for the crown.

[OnlyRegret]

I don't speak Taco Bell. American please.

[stufte]

The Joker will be this generations Gone with the wind. You can hate it all you want, but it'll be a movie shown in every history class around the world for generations to come.

LMAO you can't predict that type of shit.

Of course I can. I'm an expert, unlike yourself.

An expert at getting mad over woke shit, sure

I'm not mad, but it sure sounds like you are.

[curly]

I'm not mad, I'm actually laughing. And if you say I'm mad again I'll gouge your eyes out and poop in the holes

[D3RANG3D]

[Great Rumbler]

Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! 

[EchoRin]

 

[curly]

 

[curly]

Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3ENgFdF5Er/

Coulda sworn there was a different link here a second ago...

[EchoRin]

Yes. I was much more into the Incel friendly "girl I will never fuck" link rather than some half naked guy who probably has a had a girlfriend or two already 

[Mr. Nobody]

Damn good movie.

[BIONIC]

Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! 

Hey now. We're all gamers here, we can move past this.

[BIONIC]

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“How dare you? You have stolen my dreams, and my girlfriend.”

[Nintex]

I can't believe we've reached a point where lefties are scared of comic book movies and Mortal Kombat

See, I didn't leave the left, the left left me 

[paprikastaude]

Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! 

Hey now. We're all gamers here, we can move past this.

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now is the time to be mad

[Great Rumbler]

$39 million for Friday and Thursday previews.

[stufte]

Just got back. One of the best on screen portrayals of the Joker I've ever seen. One of the best movies I've seen in a long time.

[stufte]

I'm an incel now, though.

[Atramental]

[Trent Dole]

Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! 

Joker's trick.

[OnlyRegret]

I'm an incel now, though.

but have you risen (from your seat)?

[BlueTsunami]

Movies legit, I give it 5 out of 5 mass shootings

I can't believe the dude who made the Hangover flicks actually pulled off a brutal dark comedy starring the Joker

[Great Rumbler]

[nachobro]

[team filler]

[Human Snorenado]

I'm interested in reading the script. I feel like Todd Phillips was the wrong choice to direct it after seeing it tonight, and that it was largely saved by Phoenix's performance.

Ultimately it's going to be part of the Clockwork Orange, Falling Down, and Fight Club slice of cinema/storytelling where people are too fucking meatheaded to grok what was actually attempting to be conveyed, but that's what happens in a world full of fillers.

We live in a society, brehs.

[team filler]

 

[BIONIC]

I'm an incel now, though.

[BlueTsunami]

I feel as though a lot of the complaints levied against the film on Gotham championing Arthur can be answered by placing it squarely on his delusions of grandeur. I believe, even the parts that aren't obviously cut straight from his delusions, are still tainted by an unreliable narrator of sorts. With that said, If you're walking away from this fist pumping over the chaos the Joker caused, you're of the ilk that loves the Walter Whites of cinema. A trash fire of a person.

[VomKriege]

Make up ! Wayne ! Remember Gotham City ?
I rose, I rose when I saw it !

[team filler]

I'm interested in reading the script. I feel like Todd Phillips was the wrong choice to direct it after seeing it tonight, and that it was largely saved by Phoenix's performance.

Ultimately it's going to be part of the Clockwork Orange, Falling Down, and Fight Club slice of cinema/storytelling where people are too fucking meatheaded to grok what was actually attempting to be conveyed, but that's what happens in a world full of fillers.

We live in a society, brehs.

[EchoRin]

An image of the Adam's Family's Lurch, dressed up as the Joker.

Rise up. 8 feet up.

[kingv]

I watched the movie and all the alt-right themes that they are desperate to write about are actually not in there.

In fact if you want to make an analogy the movie has more strong left wing messaging. Such as the decline of the welfare state and social programs.

I was getting at this earlier. Its an interesting balance because the death of the welfare capitalist state is the material fuel for the unrest in the movie, but it's counterbalanced by portraying the movement in question as a group of revanchist bloodthirsty lumpen criminals getting behind a terrorist with no moral compass. The rich and powerful elites are portrayed as corrupt, but the legitimacy of the movement is undermined by it's spiritual leadership in the Joker and even it's name. They are not even interested in a set of demands other than to murder and burn the Winners in society.

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Kill the Rich

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It's sort of an enlightened centrist big brain movie on some level. In this view nobody has a coherent / defensible political position or theory of justice and Humans Are All Shit.

Movie is Bernie Sanders’ Fahrenheit 911

[Uncle]

primary takeaway from the movie:

the 4 high schoolers sitting next to me got up to leave at the end and one of them said "well that was worse than chemistry class"