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Re: Xbox Series S and X
« Reply #1020 on: November 13, 2020, 09:53:37 PM »
I wanted to join in the new gen fun...

Amazon and UPS conspired against me.



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« Reply #1021 on: November 13, 2020, 10:06:33 PM »
Suffer like G did  :'(
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« Reply #1022 on: November 13, 2020, 10:47:03 PM »
G’s blood stains...

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« Reply #1023 on: November 13, 2020, 11:16:05 PM »
As good an excuse as I'll get to post this video uploaded today by *official channel SEGA Forever. :)

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Re: Xbox Series S and X
« Reply #1024 on: November 14, 2020, 10:41:39 AM »
Digital Foundry did the big one.

Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.



- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on

Uuuh so?

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« Reply #1025 on: November 14, 2020, 10:52:04 AM »
Digital Foundry did the big one.

Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.



- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on

Uuuh so?

PC > consoles reconfirmed for the billionth time? :idont

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Re: Xbox Series S and X
« Reply #1026 on: November 14, 2020, 11:21:21 AM »
The graphics card that costs more than the whole console has better performance? :titus
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« Reply #1027 on: November 14, 2020, 12:09:07 PM »
As he says in the video, back when they tested Gears of War on Series X at Microsoft they thought it was closer to the RTX 2080 in terms of performance.

The graphics card that costs more than the whole console has better performance? :titus
2060 (S) actually cheaper than a Xbox Series X.
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« Reply #1028 on: November 14, 2020, 01:32:50 PM »
The bubbleboy 9800XGT is actually more powerful than the Xbooty_Sauce 4200DKX inside the Xbox?

Completely invalidates everything about the console.
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« Reply #1029 on: November 14, 2020, 02:24:15 PM »
Might as well throw your trashboxes in the dumpsters guys
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« Reply #1030 on: November 14, 2020, 04:57:21 PM »
Might as well throw your trashboxes in the dumpsters guys

You better be strong like big American, I just got it and it's a hefty boy.
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Re: Xbox Series S and X
« Reply #1031 on: November 15, 2020, 01:05:19 AM »
Series S is also heavy af. Looks kawaii though.

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« Reply #1032 on: November 15, 2020, 06:07:43 AM »
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G The Resurrected

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« Reply #1033 on: November 15, 2020, 12:02:08 PM »
If anyone see’s Series X’s available in the US let me know...

I’m jealous of the missus new console, it’s a beast.

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« Reply #1034 on: November 15, 2020, 09:32:37 PM »
:bow Vincent-sama, give me your calibration knowledge :bow2

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« Reply #1035 on: November 16, 2020, 03:31:00 AM »


Since my XSX was the most generous gift from the nicest person on the planet, I took the opportunity to buy last year's C9 OLED on sale. Setting it up was a nightmare, but OH MY FUCK.

(Note: I'm upgrading from a 15-year-old 42 inch LED)

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« Reply #1036 on: November 16, 2020, 07:54:32 AM »
LG OLED is the best TV ever.
My C8 is already  :mouf

It gives all your content(TM) a glow up.
And those blacks  :shaq

One downside though, iMax movie theaters will leave you thinking: "Meh, this looks better at home'
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« Reply #1037 on: November 16, 2020, 08:16:53 AM »
Looking forward to jumping straigth to 8K when my 1080p Sony breaks down in 2027.

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« Reply #1038 on: November 16, 2020, 08:49:50 AM »
Looking forward to jumping straigth to 8K when my 1080p Sony breaks down in 2027.

I'm in the same boat. I'm not getting huge improvements on my console experiences because my TVs are both 1080p.
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« Reply #1039 on: November 16, 2020, 10:28:43 AM »
My bravia has a light problem on the right side where its showing extta bright light like a leak or something but eh im planning to buy a new tv next year
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G The Resurrected

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« Reply #1040 on: November 16, 2020, 10:43:16 AM »
My bravia has a light problem on the right side where its showing extta bright light like a leak or something but eh im planning to buy a new tv next year

Xbr x900e per chance? If so give Sony a call we did when the fald failed again and we started getting light bleeding. Sony sent someone out and replaced it with a x950h 2020 model. At least they stand behind their products unlike Samsung.

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« Reply #1041 on: November 16, 2020, 11:36:31 AM »
How are 4K screens nowadays with input lag?

Reason i chose my Sony was the 17ms input lag which was the best you could get really back then.

Dont want to buy anything with loads of lag

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« Reply #1042 on: November 16, 2020, 11:49:07 AM »
LG CX should be the best tv for gaming. That has 13ms input lag.

Seems the 2020 Samsung Qled are at around 10ms input lag.

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« Reply #1043 on: November 16, 2020, 11:58:42 AM »
LG CX should be the best tv for gaming. That has 13ms input lag.

Seems the 2020 Samsung Qled are at around 10ms input lag.

Nice! Those are prob 1 class above what Ill be looking at. But still very promising, I remember a few years ago most of these 4k sets where in their 30s/50s apparently.

Like I have a series W8 Sony when W9 was the top.

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« Reply #1044 on: November 16, 2020, 01:01:19 PM »
Is Tetris Effect supposed to have a tiny playfield?
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« Reply #1045 on: November 16, 2020, 01:08:05 PM »
It most likely has the smaller playfield cause it used to be a VR game. I think you can zoom it in with one of the sticks.

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« Reply #1046 on: November 16, 2020, 01:09:08 PM »
LG CX should be the best tv for gaming. That has 13ms input lag.

Seems the 2020 Samsung Qled are at around 10ms input lag.

Nice! Those are prob 1 class above what Ill be looking at. But still very promising, I remember a few years ago most of these 4k sets where in their 30s/50s apparently.

Like I have a series W8 Sony when W9 was the top.
My C8 was already about 18ms - 21ms. A lot of problems they had with OLED before (burn-in, input lag etc.) were fixed in time the B7/C7 came out and with the B8/C8 they finally got their motion processing sorted.
So moving on from the C8 they've mostly focused on improving the feature set and connectivity (HDMI 2.1) as opposed to making big changes to the panel itself.

Here you can see just how small the difference is:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-c8-vs-lg-cx/600/10619?usage=11114&threshold=0.1
« Last Edit: November 16, 2020, 01:14:49 PM by Nintex »
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Re: Xbox Series S and X
« Reply #1047 on: November 17, 2020, 01:02:53 AM »
I’m picking up a tcl series 6 2020 version.

The OLED was a little rich for my blood... considering I’m picking up some Sonos shit as well

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« Reply #1048 on: November 17, 2020, 12:18:00 PM »
I’m picking up a tcl series 6 2020 version.

The OLED was a little rich for my blood... considering I’m picking up some Sonos shit as well

I hope you are going for the Arc. I recently got rid of my vizio elevate (Dolby Atmos system) and replaced it with the Arc, best decision I’ve made all year.

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« Reply #1049 on: November 17, 2020, 02:27:34 PM »
I’m picking up a tcl series 6 2020 version.

The OLED was a little rich for my blood... considering I’m picking up some Sonos shit as well

I hope you are going for the Arc. I recently got rid of my vizio elevate (Dolby Atmos system) and replaced it with the Arc, best decision I’ve made all year.

I actually ended up going for the old play bar. My living room is super fucked proportion wise so I know the atmos won’t work well.

And I got it for a song, like cheaper than the beam. Planning to pick up the sub on Black Friday, and some of the ikea Sonos speakers for surrounds.... and maybe one or two of the lamps.

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« Reply #1050 on: November 18, 2020, 02:55:29 AM »
I have three Sonos speakers and I'll probably pick another two within a year. If you subscribe to Spotify/Apple Music or listen to podcasts then they are super convenient.

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« Reply #1051 on: November 18, 2020, 01:37:45 PM »
Yeah, they are a little pricey, but the idea of being able to get a speaker in every room is a good one

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« Reply #1052 on: November 18, 2020, 01:52:32 PM »
More like Soros  :tinfoil
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« Reply #1053 on: November 18, 2020, 02:10:32 PM »
It took some tinkering but I managed to connect my Philips Hue with Google Home and Sonos.

So now I can say: "Hey Google, turn on the lights and play Linkin Park" like Batman  8)
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« Reply #1054 on: November 18, 2020, 03:11:10 PM »
Batman would never say that
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« Reply #1055 on: November 18, 2020, 04:34:38 PM »
Batman would never say that

Counter-point: Battinson totally would.
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« Reply #1056 on: November 19, 2020, 03:26:02 AM »
Got my Playbar today. Huge upgrade over my TV speakers.

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« Reply #1057 on: November 19, 2020, 10:52:10 AM »
And give no one a spot to talk about their favourite Xbox exclusive games?

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Re: Xbox Series S and X
« Reply #1058 on: November 19, 2020, 04:30:52 PM »
Digital Foundry did the big one.

Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.



- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on

that is actually p interesting considering the gpu they used is (in raw flops) nearly half as powerful as the series x chip. dem tensor cores and DLSS doing some heavy lifting. kinda savage they made the comparison. RDNA 2 getting shat on.
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« Reply #1059 on: November 19, 2020, 04:44:43 PM »
im sure the RT implementation will get better though, and even building a machine with a (relatively) cheap 2060 super is going to end up costing you twice what a series x costs, and eventually what the series x achieves graphically will outstrip the 2060 super at least. should really be more on par with a 2080 ti.
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« Reply #1060 on: November 19, 2020, 07:17:34 PM »
im sure the RT implementation will get better though, and even building a machine with a (relatively) cheap 2060 super is going to end up costing you twice what a series x costs, and eventually what the series x achieves graphically will outstrip the 2060 super at least. should really be more on par with a 2080 ti.
From what I've seen so far I'm really starting to doubt this, unless AMD figures out DLSS without the need for additional hardware but in the end Xbox Series X pretty much runs games at a certain 'PC setting'.
But I have a feeling Cerny is going to beat Microsoft in that race with DLSS and that's why Sony isn't using the RNDA 2.0 spec like Microsoft is but their own graphics API instead, they already had that checkerboarding thing pretty well implemented a few patents hinting at improvements of that :thinking

Where I think the Xbox Series X will pull ahead is VRAM. The 2070 Super, 3070 etc. are all stuck on 8GB of VRAM and that's not going to cut it for 4K down the line.
However, Xbox Series X doesn't hit native 4K in many new games yet either when ray tracing is involved so we'll have to see how that plays out.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2020, 07:34:23 PM by Nintex »
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« Reply #1061 on: November 19, 2020, 08:08:14 PM »
you've seen the same as us and what we've seen is jack shit. we're barely out of the starting gate, give it time
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« Reply #1062 on: November 19, 2020, 08:10:49 PM »
that's why Sony isn't using the RNDA 2.0 spec like Microsoft is but their own graphics API instead
I thought you said Microsoft is using their own graphics API, DirectX.
More often then not Sony's own custom graphics API is better optimized than vanilla DirectX that Microsoft runs.
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« Reply #1063 on: November 28, 2020, 11:08:45 AM »
Finally got a Series X for store pick later this week at Best Buy. No shitty bundles, no insane resale. :rejoice

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« Reply #1064 on: November 28, 2020, 03:37:53 PM »
Same for me, hope BB didn't shit the bed and oversell.

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« Reply #1065 on: November 30, 2020, 04:30:26 AM »
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Since my XSX was the most generous gift from the nicest person on the planet, I took the opportunity to buy last year's C9 OLED on sale. Setting it up was a nightmare, but OH MY FUCK.

(Note: I'm upgrading from a 15-year-old 42 inch LED)

42 inch LED not good enough for you anymore pretty boy? I bet you you've even started using motion-interpolation now too

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« Reply #1066 on: November 30, 2020, 08:27:02 AM »


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« Reply #1067 on: November 30, 2020, 12:32:19 PM »
I'm an idiot about these things but would it be possible to add a drive to the Series S?

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« Reply #1068 on: November 30, 2020, 01:30:04 PM »
Nope, not even an external.

edit: Somehow thought you were talking about a disc drive.  :neogaf
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« Reply #1069 on: November 30, 2020, 02:53:11 PM »
You can add a USB hard drive and run any Xbox One/Xbox360/original xbox games off of it.

For new Xbox Series games, the external hard drive could also be used purely for storage but to run the Xbox Series games, you would have to copy the file to your internal SSD.

There's also that $200 1TB Seagate drive that you could use to increase the "internal" volume but it's a ripoff, the price will probably go down massively in a year when the Seagate exclusivity period runs out.

To answer your question, you can keep whatever games you're not playing everyday on a USB drive and then transfer them to the internal when you're ready to play them. It probably takes 10-20 minutes to transfer a game over.

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« Reply #1070 on: November 30, 2020, 05:49:22 PM »
I was talking about a disc drive. Sorry you had to type all that  :lol

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« Reply #1071 on: December 01, 2020, 11:21:30 AM »
I was able to order a series X on Bestbuy but it’s back ordered now...  When I ordered it they said it would be in store on the 1st, now it’s got no date.  :-\

Missus is over there in quick resume heaven playin Yakuza. The update fixed the issues with the new feature and it’s really impressive.

Heads up if you are looking for a BC drive/cold storage or wanna shuck

WD Black 2tb ssd external $208 (showed $199)
https://www.adorama.com/wd3s1bbkwesn.html

Usb disc drives aren’t recognized at the system level on the Xbox One os, but could be in software in the future if someone took the time (in dev mode.) The OS only allows signed drives and they are serial locked, same with Sony and the PS5. Funny thing is Sony could sell a UHD upgrade with drive and plastic shell since the cable for the drive is in the digital edition.
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« Reply #1072 on: December 01, 2020, 12:40:19 PM »
Missus is over there in quick resume heaven playin Yakuza. The update fixed the issues with the new feature and it’s really impressive.

That's good to hear. Yakuza was crashing almost every time for me when coming out of Quick Resume.
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« Reply #1073 on: December 01, 2020, 03:28:45 PM »
I was talking about a disc drive. Sorry you had to type all that  :lol
I'm not dumb after all. :rejoice

That being said, a cursory search suggests it won't work.

G The Resurrected

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« Reply #1074 on: December 12, 2020, 12:02:23 PM »
After weeks of dealing with Amazon and UPS I finally got my claim filled on my launch Xbox Series X earlier this week. That mess has been a nightmare to deal with. FedEx just delivered a Series X overnight though and I’m getting it setup now. I did not expect that today at all, Thanks good guy M$ and team Xbox!

I went to install some games and fuck there isn’t a lot of space on this thing. I feel that there was more space on the Xbox One X than the Series X.


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« Reply #1075 on: December 12, 2020, 12:17:26 PM »
Plenty of space, stop being a weirdo and installing everything
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« Reply #1076 on: December 12, 2020, 05:05:13 PM »
Plenty of space, stop being a weirdo and installing everything

fucking aye. why do these nerds need to install everything at once
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« Reply #1077 on: December 12, 2020, 05:22:08 PM »
*Looks at the 8 games he has installed that already max out the PS5 hard drive*

I wish I could install everything at once.

G The Resurrected

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« Reply #1078 on: December 12, 2020, 05:45:11 PM »
Ok so how many games is too many games then? My consoles free storage was 670gb after updates in the alpha ring.

I occasionally play several live games:

Apex 86gb
CoD Modern Warfare 162gb
Forza Horizon 4 84gb
Hitman 2 20gb

Total: 352gb leaving a total of 314gb roughly 47% free

Now include the new games I’m installing to play through:

CoD Bo Coldwar 146.5gb
Dirt 5 72.5gb
Yakuza: Like a Dragon 37gb
Cyberpunk 2077 59gb

That’s 8 games which seems like a lot less than the advertised space and listed 802gb of space the console should have available. Granted those new games will be finished and no longer installed, some of them are longer commitments. I’m just saying it feels like less space is all because it is less space. Thankfully there is a solution available today for that, unlike the PS5.

The PS5 is even worse off, but thankfully I don’t have as large of a library of games for it to play.

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« Reply #1079 on: December 12, 2020, 06:31:48 PM »
Install your Xbone games to an external SSD and you'll still get great load times without breaking the bank on that overpriced Xbox Seagate SSD.