Author Topic: Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis? (Read 1074155 times)

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12600 on:** October 30, 2020, 10:42:04 AM »

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/anti-asian-hate-crime-incidents-rose-by-878-compared-to-last-year-vancouver-police-report-says-1.5166754

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12601 on:** October 30, 2020, 01:27:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/richard680news/status/1322184130969427968

james · « **Reply #12602 on:** October 30, 2020, 02:31:29 PM »

Dude hadn't been at work for 2 weeks?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #12603 on:** October 30, 2020, 02:38:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/coubroughCBC/status/1322244340845072385

480 new cases for Manitoba. That would be like Ontario having 5,000+ new cases.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12604 on:** October 30, 2020, 02:45:19 PM »

Jesus

james · « **Reply #12605 on:** October 30, 2020, 03:20:25 PM »

Good news everyone!

Quote

Cruise stocks rose Friday after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced it will replace its nearly 8-month old no-sail order with a less restrictive “Conditional Sailing Order.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/30/cruise-stocks-rise-as-cdc-eases-covid-sailing-restrictions-on-industry.html

We did it!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12606 on:** October 30, 2020, 03:24:21 PM »

Feel like if you decide to go on a cruise in the middle of a pandemic after watching the news in March and April, you deserve to go on a cruise in the middle of a pandemic.

james · « **Reply #12607 on:** October 30, 2020, 03:29:21 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on October 30, 2020, 03:24:21 PM

Feel like if you decide to go on a cruise in the middle of a pandemic after watching the news in March and April, you deserve to go on a cruise in the middle of a pandemic.

dat buffet tho

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #12608 on:** October 30, 2020, 04:00:58 PM »

Prince would've never survived Covid. He was always wearing his cloth mask over his eyes.

Nintex · « **Reply #12609 on:** October 30, 2020, 04:25:11 PM »

Quote from: james on October 30, 2020, 03:20:25 PM

Good news everyone!

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Cruise stocks rose Friday after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced it will replace its nearly 8-month old no-sail order with a less restrictive “Conditional Sailing Order.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/30/cruise-stocks-rise-as-cdc-eases-covid-sailing-restrictions-on-industry.html

We did it!

The beautiful boaters have recovered!

james · « **Reply #12610 on:** October 30, 2020, 06:20:59 PM »

Europe at +289,991 for today

US about to break 90k with Texas and CA reporting soon

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12611 on:** October 30, 2020, 06:32:08 PM »

https://www.wvlt.tv/2020/10/30/tiger-at-zoo-knoxville-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

damn lots of big cats seem to get it

james · « **Reply #12612 on:** October 30, 2020, 07:35:46 PM »

+98,375

Its haaaaappening

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12613 on:** October 30, 2020, 08:39:45 PM »

+101,044

headwalk · « **Reply #12614 on:** October 30, 2020, 11:17:26 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on October 30, 2020, 03:24:21 PM

Feel like if you decide to go on a cruise in the middle of a pandemic after watching the news in March and April, you deserve to go on a cruise in the middle of a pandemic.

cruises have always essentially been massive death arks anyway. they're an evolution of the inuit custom of floating their aged off on an ice berg to cop it.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #12615 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:22:45 AM »

Ontario and Quebec each over 1,000 new cases.

Leadbelly · « **Reply #12616 on:** October 31, 2020, 02:22:28 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on October 29, 2020, 02:33:50 PM

Belgium 21,048 new cases today--my math is telling me that is the equivalent of 600,000 new cases in the US. That can't be right.

I don't know what it is about Belgium. In terms of countries worst hit, Belgium has been right at the top since the beginning. Belgium had a strong lockdown as well. It didn't make a difference.

Nintex · « **Reply #12617 on:** October 31, 2020, 02:58:04 PM »

Quote from: Leadbelly on October 31, 2020, 02:22:28 PM

Quote from: Flannel Boy on October 29, 2020, 02:33:50 PM
Belgium 21,048 new cases today--my math is telling me that is the equivalent of 600,000 new cases in the US. That can't be right.

I don't know what it is about Belgium. In terms of countries worst hit, Belgium has been right at the top since the beginning. Belgium had a strong lockdown as well. It didn't make a difference.

We don't even know if lockdowns even work at a certain stage. Those that are living by the current rules probably already work from home and limit their movement if they can. Bars etc. already closed.
I don't see how lockdowns work against the growing number of COVID truth 5G people and/or children in schools who are the problem.

We're stable at approx 9k cases a day now and just a wee bit short of a full lockdown.
This limited lockdown cut around 1k cases daily.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12618 on:** October 31, 2020, 03:00:05 PM »

... It did make a difference though.

VomKriege · « **Reply #12619 on:** October 31, 2020, 03:24:23 PM »

Quote from: Leadbelly on October 31, 2020, 02:22:28 PM

Quote from: Flannel Boy on October 29, 2020, 02:33:50 PM
Belgium 21,048 new cases today--my math is telling me that is the equivalent of 600,000 new cases in the US. That can't be right.

I don't know what it is about Belgium. In terms of countries worst hit, Belgium has been right at the top since the beginning. Belgium had a strong lockdown as well. It didn't make a difference.

Just shooting from the hip : small country, very dense.

james · « **Reply #12620 on:** October 31, 2020, 03:53:20 PM »

I for one am shocked that people in Belgium are less healthy that neighboring countries

BUT WHY

Leadbelly · « **Reply #12621 on:** October 31, 2020, 04:25:21 PM »

Fun, fun, fun!

shosta · « **Reply #12622 on:** October 31, 2020, 05:38:52 PM »

Leadbelly what do you think about this graph of Sweden's cases

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12623 on:** October 31, 2020, 07:28:32 PM »

Quote from: shosta on October 31, 2020, 05:38:52 PM

Leadbelly what do you think about this graph of Sweden's cases

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That herd immunity is gonna kick in any day now, just you wait!

Leadbelly · « **Reply #12624 on:** October 31, 2020, 07:30:39 PM »

Quote from: shosta on October 31, 2020, 05:38:52 PM

Leadbelly what do you think about this graph of Sweden's cases

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They're rising it seems to me. Is that correct?

shosta · « **Reply #12625 on:** October 31, 2020, 07:42:54 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2020, 07:28:32 PM

That herd immunity is gonna kick in any day now, just you wait!

there's been an update:

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"Striving for herd immunity is neither ethical nor otherwise justifiable," Dr Tegnell told German paper Die Zeit.

Quote from: Leadbelly on October 31, 2020, 07:30:39 PM

They're rising it seems to me. Is that correct?

Right, they've got uncontrolled exponential spread again. You see now that they didn't figure out some secret to low spread while keeping the economy open? And I'll go out on a limb here and predict that France will be able to get control of its epidemic faster with a lockdown while Sweden will suffer a much worse impact. Willing to revisit this in six weeks.

Tripon · « **Reply #12626 on:** October 31, 2020, 07:45:05 PM »

People who still want to follow Sweden's paths putting a lot of stock on their death rate.

https://twitter.com/yinonw/status/1322360555143749633

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1322336364478623749

Elon Musk has weighed in.

Leadbelly · « **Reply #12627 on:** October 31, 2020, 08:05:32 PM »

Quote from: shosta on October 31, 2020, 07:42:54 PM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2020, 07:28:32 PM
That herd immunity is gonna kick in any day now, just you wait!

there's been an update:
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"Striving for herd immunity is neither ethical nor otherwise justifiable," Dr Tegnell told German paper Die Zeit.

Quote from: Leadbelly on October 31, 2020, 07:30:39 PM
They're rising it seems to me. Is that correct?
Right, they've got uncontrolled exponential spread again. You see now that they didn't figure out some secret to low spread while keeping the economy open? And I'll go out on a limb here and predict that France will be able to get control of its epidemic faster with a lockdown while Sweden will suffer a much worse impact. Willing to revisit this in six weeks.

I never said they did figure anything out. Again, as I mentioned previously, nothing I wrote was an opinion. Everything was simply what had been reported. Funny thing is, I also posted about the rise in casss reported in the news, which I know you saw because you responded to it.

Interesting thing though is you're making definitive statements on this. I would say it is more complicated than that. Why not, for instance, compare Belgium with Sweden, or my own country with Sweden in 6 weeks? Both have gone into lockdown.

Edit: I will mention as well actually... Sweden's strategy was dubbed the 'herd immunity' strategy, but it was never claimed to be that by the Swedish government. Herd immunity simply being a side-effect of the strategy, one that they believed to be beneficial. The reason for the strategy was to have a long-term sustainable strategy

T-Short · « **Reply #12628 on:** October 31, 2020, 08:21:55 PM »

Now now children, don't fight. There are no winners, here.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12629 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:26:23 PM »

Clearly a loser though.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #12630 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:27:36 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on October 28, 2020, 02:49:39 PM

In the US last week, there were 33 positive tests for the flu (0.3% positivity rate). This compares to 395 this time last year (2.4% positivity rate).

Who the fuck tests for the goddamn flu?

T-Short · « **Reply #12631 on:** November 01, 2020, 06:21:37 AM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on October 31, 2020, 10:26:23 PM

Clearly a loser though.

It's me, isn't it?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #12632 on:** November 01, 2020, 09:29:18 AM »

Quote from: Trent Dole on October 31, 2020, 10:27:36 PM

Quote from: Flannel Boy on October 28, 2020, 02:49:39 PM
In the US last week, there were 33 positive tests for the flu (0.3% positivity rate). This compares to 395 this time last year (2.4% positivity rate).
Who the fuck tests for the goddamn flu?

I don't know. They're tests performed by clinical laboratories. The CDC summarizes the weekly results every year.

This week 24 cases (0.2% positivity rate). Last year this time 428 (2.4% positivity rate)

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #12633 on:** November 01, 2020, 09:32:37 AM »

Belgium is the third country (second major one) to have more than 1,000 COVID deaths (not including excess deaths) per million inhabitants.

Nintex · « **Reply #12634 on:** November 01, 2020, 09:36:57 AM »

Under 9k cases reported today.

Seems like we're heading in the right direction again

Leadbelly · « **Reply #12635 on:** November 01, 2020, 01:52:02 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on October 31, 2020, 10:26:23 PM

Clearly a loser though.

I hope that isn't the case. It seems to me it is a gamble either way. To keep going into lockdown is to gamble on a vaccine in the foreseeable future. To not go into lockdown is to gamble on a mitigation strategy working to a reasonable degree.

I will reiterate my feeling on this. We can't keep going into lockdown only for it to come back once it is lifted. It is not sustainable and would have disastrous long-term effects. In the UK for instance, we're 2 trillion pounds in debt. We can't can't keep doing it And here's the thing: If there isn't a vaccine and it keeps coming back, at some point we will have to, continue life as normal. We will have no choice but to And if that happens everything we have done previously will have cost us dearly.

That is one scenario. The other I guess is we don't go into lockdown, the second or third wave is worse than before, and the death toll is large. A vaccine comes along not long after.

team filler · « **Reply #12636 on:** November 01, 2020, 02:27:00 PM »

guy tries to stay positive about the pandemic, not seeing the problem here

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12637 on:** November 01, 2020, 03:15:29 PM »

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/01/uk/uk-lockdown-coronavirus-reaction-gbr-intl/index.html

Leadbelly · « **Reply #12638 on:** November 01, 2020, 11:07:55 PM »

Edit. Wrong thresd

Tripon · « **Reply #12639 on:** November 02, 2020, 11:29:12 AM »

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Herd immunity is usually achieved with a vaccine, take polio as an example. But in the fight against the coronavirus, some countries argued about the option of a natural herd immunity. Some experts want to allow the infection to spread, claiming it would minimize harm and protect the economy. More scientists say it's dangerous and may not even work - and it's the most vulnerable, who'd be hit hardest. A few days after 3 epidemiologists in a “Great Barrington Declaration” spoke out in favor of a “Focused Protection” of the population, 80 other scientists describe this as a dangerous mistake in a “John Snow Memorandum”.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12640 on:** November 02, 2020, 11:59:17 AM »

https://twitter.com/ottawahealth/status/1323285005683036160

shosta · « **Reply #12641 on:** November 02, 2020, 12:20:22 PM »

Covid only wants to do one thing and it's fucking disgusting

team filler · « **Reply #12642 on:** November 02, 2020, 12:28:08 PM »

Quote from: shosta on November 02, 2020, 12:20:22 PM

Covid only wants to do one thing and it's fucking disgusting

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12643 on:** November 02, 2020, 01:31:51 PM »

Quote from: filler on November 02, 2020, 12:28:08 PM

Quote from: shosta on November 02, 2020, 12:20:22 PM
Covid only wants to do one thing and it's fucking disgusting
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Nintex · « **Reply #12644 on:** November 02, 2020, 05:02:29 PM »

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1323378126706147328

Thank you WHO

james · « **Reply #12645 on:** November 02, 2020, 05:07:16 PM »

Switzerland from 10k to 21k just like that

Competing with Belgium for the lose

team filler · « **Reply #12646 on:** November 03, 2020, 01:55:34 AM »

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12647 on:** November 03, 2020, 11:59:39 AM »

Ontario numbers sucked today

Nintex · « **Reply #12648 on:** November 03, 2020, 01:26:39 PM »

More measures,

3 people at home max
2 people outside max
theaters, cinema's, gyms etc. closed
don't shop for fun
stay inside as much as possible
don't travel abroad

Perhaps a curfew for specific areas if necessary

BrokenVerses · « **Reply #12649 on:** November 03, 2020, 04:07:45 PM »

I feel like I'm on the recovery portion of having COVID-19. Other than some chest pain and a loss of taste and smell that sneaks up on you, it luckily didn't feel that different than other times I've been sick.

COVID has been surging here in El Paso unfortunately.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12650 on:** November 03, 2020, 05:51:57 PM »

Ontarios new system is dumb

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12651 on:** November 04, 2020, 12:28:18 PM »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-denmark-mink/denmark-to-cull-entire-herd-of-mink-due-to-risk-of-coronavirus-mutation-tv2-idUSKBN27K1X6

17 million animals

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12652 on:** November 04, 2020, 04:52:56 PM »

The Danes are at it again!

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #12653 on:** November 04, 2020, 09:35:40 PM »

There was a clerical error and they accidentally killed everyone in Minsk.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #12654 on:** November 05, 2020, 09:13:55 AM »

Ooopsie. That's like 50/75km north of here.

People in the affected townships are not allowed to leave townships for two weeks now.

I don't know how worried to be, if this is detected here in a first world country I just imagine the virus mutated already 50 times unnoticed in places where there is no testing.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #12655 on:** November 05, 2020, 03:32:21 PM »

6 digit daily in the us of a
"congrats" on that milestone

Nintex · « **Reply #12656 on:** November 05, 2020, 03:43:28 PM »

Xi's virus is coming for your pets next

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #12657 on:** November 06, 2020, 11:58:59 AM »

Quote

Many European countries underwent an unexpected spectacular boost of the daily reported new COVID-19 cases between September 20th and October 25th, imposing in emergency new confinement rules in order to prevent hospitals saturation. The present study shows no correlation between the country COVID-19 boost date and its 2 weeks preceding temperature, but shows an impressive correlation with the country latitude. As the daily UV insolation earlier decreases in autumn for higher latitudes, this is an additional observation supporting the impact of low vitamin blood D level on the respiratory impairment in COVID-19 disease.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.28.20221176v2

I've been taking a vitamin D supplement since the spring. It won't harm me even if there's nothing to all these associations (which seems unlikely).

edit:
There's definitely a correlation in the US:
https://twitter.com/COVID19Tracking/status/1322664510037975041

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12658 on:** November 06, 2020, 01:02:16 PM »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/coronavirus-r-rate-school-closures-lockdown-lancet-study-b1251617.html

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #12659 on:** November 06, 2020, 01:02:53 PM »

no way

News:

Author Topic: Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis? (Read 1074155 times)