Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[Himu]

Started work today again. Having a job where I walk around a lot made me pause but today isn't so bad and I feel about 80%. I no longer get winded doing just menial things so I think I'm in the clear but I'm trying to manage myself and my healing so I don't experience long Covid or damage my lungs or heart. That's a bit tough since I don't have a desk job but I'm trying my best. Office workers really benefit from Covid healing. Working Class jobs like mine you have to go back to work and be somewhat active while also healing which could lead to complications. I hope that's not the case for myself.

I'd like to slowly work back up to a 5 mile morning walk. I'll start with 15 minutes and work my way up. I won't be touching body weight exercises, yoga, or calisthenics for at least a month which sucks.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1608207622326607872

China is trying this shit again 

[james]

The nostalgia hitting hard. I swear we had the exact same headline in February 2020

[who is ted danson?]

THEY AREN'T SENDING US THEIR BEST, THEY ONLY SEND US THEIR WORST 

[Himu]

I worked all of yesterday without shortness of breath. 😁 It's really over! Yahoo!

[james]

New year, new vaccine evasive variant

https://mobile.twitter.com/AbraarKaran/status/1609067496484794370

[benjipwns]

Good thing I stocked up on unauthorized antibodies during the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1609547333666066432

Mask Up Tripledemic Too Fast & Too Furious

[BIONIC]

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1609547333666066432

Mask Up Tripledemic Too Fast & Too Furious

Get fucked.

[Bebpo]

New year, new vaccine evasive variant

https://mobile.twitter.com/AbraarKaran/status/1609067496484794370

I mean, I've seen almost everyone I know whose fully vaccinated get BQ and get pretty sick. It's definitely seemed like the vaccines straight out are not working on BQ, but the media hasn't harped on it because they don't want to downplay people from getting vaccines.

The fact that antibody treatment does.not.work.at.all on BQ sorta signals that. I mean what are the vaccines doing? Mostly providing antibodies and those antibodies don't work on BQ. I mean there's the T-cell stuff which hopefully helps, but yeah, we've hit the point in this last wave were the variants have basically totally evaded the existing vaccines and we're back to square one, which is why the #s are so high in this wave.

That said, at least anecdotally it doesn't seem like a deadlier variant. Though that may be the T-cell stuff keeping people from dying even if the antibodies aren't working. I know so many people who got covid this wave, but luckily I don't know anyone that's died from this wave and a couple were close to hospitalization but didn't end up needing to go to the hospital and got past it.

Still, it's been enough that I'm like fuck being around people this holiday.

I do wonder what's next in terms of science trying to catch up. We basically saw with Omicron that even when they skipped human trials and fast-ran the vaccines, they were too late. It was good for like 2-3 months max and then BQ wave started and they were useless. They need to figure out a new strategy this year for variants.

[Bebpo]

I wonder if it would ever make sense for scientists to make their own variant that can outcompete all other variants going on, but like make it a super mild variant that has 0% kill rate and no long covid stuff and then release that out in the world to kill off all the competition and make it the main variant in the world. Then it would have its own variants, but as long as they didn't differ in damage it would be more like cold variants going around.

I guess the potential problems besides runaway variants evolving in bad ways, would be if it doesn't crowd out the existing Covid-19 variants and just ends up being another flu/cold/rsv thing happening concurrently with the covid-19 variants so even more stuff out there.

[chronovore]

Did you do a COVID test?

There's a heavy flu doing the rounds that is not COVID but people claim it's worse than their COVID was.

Let me know as soon as that flu's deathcount exceeds COVID, and then let's talk about "worse."
Unless you just mean that patients are having a more painful time with the flu than they did vaccinated and catching C19 anyway. That's reasonable.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/BadVaccineTakes/status/1610663851543904257

 

[benjipwns]

I wonder if it would ever make sense for scientists to make their own variant that can outcompete all other variants going on, but like make it a super mild variant that has 0% kill rate and no long covid stuff and then release that out in the world to kill off all the competition and make it the main variant in the world. Then it would have its own variants, but as long as they didn't differ in damage it would be more like cold variants going around.

I guess the potential problems besides runaway variants evolving in bad ways, would be if it doesn't crowd out the existing Covid-19 variants and just ends up being another flu/cold/rsv thing happening concurrently with the covid-19 variants so even more stuff out there.

Not to be mean, but I don't think this would be a very good idea to attempt in our lifetimes.

[Nintex]

Did you do a COVID test?

There's a heavy flu doing the rounds that is not COVID but people claim it's worse than their COVID was.

Let me know as soon as that flu's deathcount exceeds COVID, and then let's talk about "worse."
Unless you just mean that patients are having a more painful time with the flu than they did vaccinated and catching C19 anyway. That's reasonable.

Patients are having a more painful time but the numbers are alarming all the same.
Our government tracks deaths by week.

2018: heavy flu around week 10
2020: COVID pandemic peak around week 14
2021: 2nd COVID wave but there was a flu around the same time as well. medical experts assume the peak is a combination of the two
2022: On average more deaths this year than any previous year and no one knows exactly why, a sharp rise at the end of the year assumed to be caused by the flu



This year for the first time in a decade the number of deaths has exceeded the number of births. The total number of deaths was equal with the peak of the COVID pandemic.
Privacy laws have now been waivered to give researches access to more data so they can find out what caused the higher number of deaths. Both in 2021 and 2022 it wasn't COVID as COVID deaths are registered as such.

One explanation might be a record population growth of +227k caused by migration. Including a lot of war refugees from Ukraine.
Considering Ukraine conscripted the healthy men to fight the war it makes sense that the weak, wounded and sick they evacuated increased the number of deaths recorded.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/BadVaccineTakes/status/1610663851543904257

 

A lot to unpack there.

[james]

Last we heard from her was asking for prayers because she had covid

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1612633369614876675?

[HardcoreRetro]

Maybe he'll bury her at his golf course. Put Diamond in the rough.

[james]

Maybe he'll bury her at his golf course. Put Diamond in the rough.

Someone get this guy a job with SNL

[chronovore]

Maybe he'll bury her at his golf course. Put Diamond in the rough.

[Himu]

https://apnews.com/article/health-fumio-kishida-japan-tokyo-business-dd19192f7d753ac9782a7338fca30cda

Japan now considers Covid to be the flu! Open the gates, USA!

[tiesto]

https://apnews.com/article/health-fumio-kishida-japan-tokyo-business-dd19192f7d753ac9782a7338fca30cda

Japan now considers Covid to be the flu! Open the gates, USA!

I mean, US has been "open" for a long while. I don't see any restrictions, maybe 10% of people wearing masks, no shops or bars or restaurants closed... so I don't get why some people are still complaining about restrictions and lockdowns.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Didn't Fauci & Co. already talk about how it's going to be seasonal?

[Nintex]

Didn't Fauci & Co. already talk about how it's going to be seasonal?

All the DLC seems to have been cancelled

[BIONIC]

5auGi has been executed in gitmo for crimes against humanity six months ago

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1618405890612420609

https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1618737936920633344

[Potato]

LOL, when I watched the first video, I was thinking that it seemed like a date. That guy was mega thirsty for whoever was recording.


Then that second video was
 

[Nintex]

The Pfizer grifters, treacherous WHO and WEF globalists being haunted by the 'citizen journalist' grifters over COVID-19 for all eternity is a bigger punishment than anything the justice system could do to them.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1629814630259343362

[Potato]

Any reason the Energy Department would be investigating COVID origins?

[Raist]

Any reason the Energy Department would be investigating COVID origins?

https://genomicscience.energy.gov/

[Lonewulfeus]

They have low confidence in their findings but at least it isn’t being rejected outright.  It was always a plausible origin for covid.  Whether or not it is we may never know.

[Nintex]

You get the most flak when you are on target

https://twitter.com/redvoicenews/status/1630597165017079808

Lots of folks will have to take the L
https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1630385344825769984

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/FBI/status/1630733743777300483

you don't say

[team filler]

the bat soup is real 

[Potato]

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What's more likely?

• A bat from hundreds of kilometres away had a virus that transferred to another animal species and then transferred to humans at a food market.
• A research facility specifically researching modified corona viruses that was located close by the epicentre of the outbreak had a containment breach.

[jorma]

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What's more likely?

• A bat from hundreds of kilometres away had a virus that transferred to another animal species and then transferred to humans at a food market.
• A research facility specifically researching modified corona viruses that was located close by the epicentre of the outbreak had a containment breach.

well we know for a fact that A has happened before, so probably A is the most likely?

[Uncle]

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What's more likely?

• A bat from hundreds of kilometres away had a virus that transferred to another animal species and then transferred to humans at a food market.
• A research facility specifically researching modified corona viruses that was located close by the epicentre of the outbreak had a containment breach.

well we know for a fact that A has happened before, so probably A is the most likely?

seems like the gambler's fallacy

[jorma]

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What's more likely?

• A bat from hundreds of kilometres away had a virus that transferred to another animal species and then transferred to humans at a food market.
• A research facility specifically researching modified corona viruses that was located close by the epicentre of the outbreak had a containment breach.

well we know for a fact that A has happened before, so probably A is the most likely?

seems like the gambler's fallacy

that's only if you already know how likely something happening is

[james]

-Very smart scientists in an extremely advanced lab made a small error and the virus got out

THATS RACIST

-The china people eat bat stew lol dumbasses no wonder they got sick

THATS ACCEPTABLE

[jorma]

-Very smart scientists in an extremely advanced lab made a small error and the virus got out

THATS RACIST

-The china people eat bat stew lol dumbasses no wonder they got sick

THATS ACCEPTABLE

neither one is racist you melon 

[team filler]

what if the bat escaped from the wuhan lab 

[james]

what if the person working at the lab who kept a bat as a pet was trans 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

-Very smart scientists in an extremely advanced lab made a small error and the virus got out

THATS RACIST

-The china people eat bat stew lol dumbasses no wonder they got sick

THATS ACCEPTABLE

Ok Hasan.

[Potato]

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What's more likely?

• A bat from hundreds of kilometres away had a virus that transferred to another animal species and then transferred to humans at a food market.
• A research facility specifically researching modified corona viruses that was located close by the epicentre of the outbreak had a containment breach.

well we know for a fact that A has happened before, so probably A is the most likely?

Are you saying that lab safety protocols have never been breached before?
 

[jorma]

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What's more likely?

• A bat from hundreds of kilometres away had a virus that transferred to another animal species and then transferred to humans at a food market.
• A research facility specifically researching modified corona viruses that was located close by the epicentre of the outbreak had a containment breach.

well we know for a fact that A has happened before, so probably A is the most likely?

Are you saying that lab safety protocols have never been breached before?
 

are you the strayan cathy newman? 

[Potato]

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What's more likely?

• A bat from hundreds of kilometres away had a virus that transferred to another animal species and then transferred to humans at a food market.
• A research facility specifically researching modified corona viruses that was located close by the epicentre of the outbreak had a containment breach.

well we know for a fact that A has happened before, so probably A is the most likely?

Are you saying that lab safety protocols have never been breached before?
 

are you the strayan cathy newman? 

Are you the Swedish Kevin Rudd?

[jorma]

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What's more likely?

• A bat from hundreds of kilometres away had a virus that transferred to another animal species and then transferred to humans at a food market.
• A research facility specifically researching modified corona viruses that was located close by the epicentre of the outbreak had a containment breach.

well we know for a fact that A has happened before, so probably A is the most likely?

Are you saying that lab safety protocols have never been breached before?
 

are you the strayan cathy newman? 

Are you the Swedish Kevin Rudd?

how would i know? 

[Potato]

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What's more likely?

• A bat from hundreds of kilometres away had a virus that transferred to another animal species and then transferred to humans at a food market.
• A research facility specifically researching modified corona viruses that was located close by the epicentre of the outbreak had a containment breach.

well we know for a fact that A has happened before, so probably A is the most likely?

Are you saying that lab safety protocols have never been breached before?
 

are you the strayan cathy newman? 

Are you the Swedish Kevin Rudd?

how would i know? 

Dunno, am I supposed to know what a Cathy Newman is?

[Coax]

Fwiw someone that a family member knew a number of years before Covid occurred worked at a biotech company (in one of the five eyes countries) that handles restricted samples and ended up leaving after trying to raise concerns internally about some of the inadequate handling/storage safety.

They didn't anonymously whistleblow however since they knew they were the only one raising such complaints and it'd jeopardize their career (it's been a while so don't recall the exact situation). The same company later helped manufacture one of the main Covid vaccines and I'd like to think they improved their safety measures given the Covid fiasco.

In that sense the lab leak theory to me seems plausible if safety protocols weren't followed closely enough that led to an accident, which only those working there would be able to provide insight to. Whether it's more plausible that the wet market theory idk.

[Himu]

Effing China causing all this pain and misery. F that country.

[benjipwns]

Surprised that the FBI is siding with Trump and the anti-vaxxers in the middle of a war, I followed all the correct people on Twitter which is how I know that a lab leak was debunked as a conspiracy theory three years ago and that even mentioning it was assisting the fascists. Amanda Marcotte (among others, back when you could trust the Blue Check system before Elon ruined it) especially wrote some very helpful scientific threads about how this had a less than zero chance of being true and the lab leak theory was Russian disinformation trying to put Fauci's life in danger that I'm glad her fellow journalists ensured I saw.

I'm not entirely surprised though when I remember this is the same FBI that refused to do anything about Gamergate and Johnny Depp.

[benjipwns]

Effing China causing all this pain and misery. F that country.

I say we make sure they never do it again.

Send Nintex to live there.

[Nintex]

DONALD J TRUMP: The world has finally woken to the truth about the Wuhan virus. Now it’s time to hold China to account

Three years ago, I declared that COVID-19 almost certainly came from the Chinese Wuhan lab. Now, the world is finally admitting the truth. The cover-up of COVID-19's origins is one of the greatest scandals in the history of the world. Millions of people all over the planet have died from the China Virus. The cost of the outbreak and the lying about its origins is incalculable, some say in excess of $50 trillion.

Now it's time to hold China—and the corrupt forces who have facilitated this colossal suppression of facts—accountable for the damage they have inflicted upon all of humanity. According to recent reports, the U.S. Department of Energy has concluded a Wuhan lab leak is the likely cause of the pandemic. The FBI reached the same conclusion. The facts are now plain for all to see. When I first suggested in early 2020 that the virus may have come from a lab, it was called 'racist,' a 'conspiracy theory,' and a claim for which 'there is no evidence'.

The entire globalist establishment—from the World Health Organization, to the media, to Anthony Fauci and the public health authorities, to the corrupt Silicon Valley tech giants, to Joe Biden—worked relentlessly to silence, censor, and shut down any suggestion that the so-called 'lab leak theory' could be true. Scientists who called for transparency and investigation were attacked. Facebook and Twitter labeled posts related to the theory as 'disinformation.' The media mercilessly ridiculed the idea.

When Joe Biden came into office, he shut down the investigation my administration had launched into the true origins of the China Virus. We all know the real reason for these censorship campaigns. The 'lab leak' did not serve their political agendas. So they did the Chinese Communist Party's dirty work, and effectively imposed China's propaganda on the Western world. There must now be a reckoning. The sinister censorship regimes in the United States and throughout the West must be dismantled and destroyed. This scandal is the best possible reminder of why we must have free speech. The World Health Organization must also be held to account. The WHO, which effectively did China's bidding, fully endorsed the 'natural origin' theory, failed to conduct a thorough inquiry into the possibility that the virus came from a lab, and covered up for China at every turn.  The WHO strongly recommended against my early China travel ban—which was proven to be 100 percent correct. Because of it, we saved hundreds of thousands of lives in the U.S. For this reason, as President, after my detailed requests for specific reforms were ignored, I terminated America's relationship with the World Health Organization.

The United States was paying the WHO $450million dollars a year when I dropped out, for 300 million people. China was paying $40million dollars for 1.4 billion people. They wanted me to come back in very badly. They offered me to come back in for what China pays. I said, 'Some day I might take it, but you have to be admonished.' Not only did Joe Biden re-enter the WHO without getting any meaningful reforms, but he did so at full price, restoring the hundreds of millions of dollars American taxpayers send each year to an organization that badly misled the world in the service of Communist China.

Now, Joe Biden is negotiating to sign a treaty giving the WHO sweeping powers any time foreign bureaucrats decide to declare a pandemic. In the event of a real emergency, the treaty would have us ship up to 20% of our medical supplies and medications to the WHO for distribution to other countries. This outrageous globalist scheme would put America and other signatories on the path to surrendering our sovereignty to the whims of foreign public health bureaucrats—the same people who got COVID-19 completely and totally wrong. The draft treaty also pushes censorship of disapproved speech about matters of public health—just like they censored the facts about the Wuhan Lab. This is insanity. America and other free nations should have no part in it.

When I take the oath of office as the 47th president of the United States, I will once again withdraw the United States from the WHO, to protect our health, and to defend our freedom and independence. Finally, now that the evidence of Chinese culpability is clear to all, we must hold China financially responsible for unleashing this plague upon the world. Joe Biden will not do this. Biden is unbelievably weak on China—perhaps because his family has received millions of dollars from entities linked to the Chinese Communist Party. Yet the need for accountability remains. China's deceptions and lies in the critical early phrase of the outbreak are well documented. For example, they long insisted to the world that the virus could not spread from human to human. They bought up vast quantities of PPE from all over the planet, while lying to other countries about the characteristics of the virus and the severity of the outbreak. Their lies and deception killed any opportunity to stop this deadly global catastrophe at the start. Add to that the probability that the virus emerged from a Chinese government lab, and may even have been engineered by Chinese government scientists, and it is clear that the nations of the world are not just owed a massive apology; they are owed massive damages.

To collect this compensation, nothing should be off the table—tariffs, taxes, and a global summit on reparations.

The World must ensure that such a tragedy never happens again!

[benjipwns]

nah

[Nintex]

 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632792287372517377

https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1632767729374580741

[Raist]

[Potato]

I'm not watching an hour of those nerds. Summary please.