Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[Akala]

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1263957793293336579

I was like 'what bumblefuck county is Bexar? I wonder how many ICU beds they even have?' Googled and it's fucking San Antonio RIP 

[CatsCatsCats]

Fuck dude, I also assumed it was some nowhereville

[Rufus]

I guess I'm thinking more the population where one side takes it seriously and the other side thinks it is a hoax and won't follow the rules until they themselves get sick and die

We do have a few conspiracy idiots (including the "5G caused it" variety) and small protests from people who are concerned about government overreach, but I'm not seeing a strong left-right divide. Nobody with any power thinks or pretends that it's a hoax.

I'm largely ignoring the coverage now, since I'm just fed up with the topic.

[zomgee]

I live in Parkersburg, West Virginia. The home city of the DuPont plant that filled the valley with Teflon and caused lots of delicious cancer. The city that was the subject of the movie Dark Water. The same city that STILL lashes out against people who blame DuPont for any of it.

No one is wearing masks. They're not even protesting because who gives a shit, they're just not wearing masks. Our restaurants were absolutely packed Friday night. We have a low infection rate because, let's face it the whole state is basically rural and we might as well have invented social distancing - we hate everybody. The absolute anger and acidity surrounding this as a plot against Donald Trump is... well not surprising. I hope it stays this low.

[team filler]

local restaurants are opening up for dine-in following county guidelines 

[CatsCatsCats]

Same with my county as of today... the restaurants at least up here on the Mt haven’t opened back up yet though.

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1264196591054880769

In Brazil, 15 percent of deaths have been people under 50 — a rate more than 10 times greater than in Italy or Spain. In Mexico, the trend is even more stark: Nearly one-fourth of the dead have been between 25 and 49. In India, officials reported this month that nearly half of the dead were younger than 60. In Rio de Janeiro state, more than two-thirds of hospitalizations are for people younger than 49.

[team filler]

neera got da covid 

[Bebpo]

local restaurants are opening up for dine-in following county guidelines 

Yup, one of the gals in my friends group was like "road trip morning!" and drove almost 2 hours just to go to a county that had opened up so she can dine-in.

 

She's also a nurse and another nurse at her location was diagnosed covid-19 positive and she's not going to get tested and is just making up excuses why she keeps enough distance that she's fine and doesn't need to get tested.


I don't know if I will still be friends with any of this group when this is all over.

[Tuckers Law]

I was like 'what bumblefuck county is Bexar? I wonder how many ICU beds they even have?' Googled and it's fucking San Antonio RIP 

This is going to have some big repercussions.  San Antonio is the florida of texas, it has a shitload of older population.  I hope Austin steps up our safety measures to help combat this fuckery from spreading through the I35 corridor.

[team filler]

the florida of texas 

[Kestastrophe]

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1263957793293336579

I was like 'what bumblefuck county is Bexar? I wonder how many ICU beds they even have?' Googled and it's fucking San Antonio RIP 

"Promegated"

 

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/05/fuckable-canadians-exempted-from-new-mask-recommendation/

Being a Saskatoon 7, this hurts.

[brawndolicious]

local restaurants are opening up for dine-in following county guidelines 

Yup, one of the gals in my friends group was like "road trip morning!" and drove almost 2 hours just to go to a county that had opened up so she can dine-in.

 

She's also a nurse and another nurse at her location was diagnosed covid-19 positive and she's not going to get tested and is just making up excuses why she keeps enough distance that she's fine and doesn't need to get tested.


I don't know if I will still be friends with any of this group when this is all over.

You really shouldn't waste your time on them.

[Boredfrom]

AMLO is such a piece of shit:

https://www.milenio.com/politica/amlo-ante-covid-19-hemos-actuado-responsablemente

[CatsCatsCats]

wtf everything is opening up

Gonna hold the line for a fortnight, at least

[thisismyusername]

Went to a Subway for the first time to get dinner. Most of the building is cleared out, the tables propped up next to the counter to make a "buffer" and a few tables still for "dine-in" ruling per county.

Nobody there but me and one of the employees. Who isn't wearing a mask. At least they were polite enough and washed their hands and put on gloves/etc. But geez.

[Positive Touch]

why are yall playing russian roulette for shit like subway and little ceasars

[Madrun Badrun]

ITT: people going out while complaining about people going out

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/gpb6a7/trinity_bellwoods_on_this_gorgeous_saturday/

[thisismyusername]

why are yall playing russian roulette for shit like subway and little ceasars

I was tired and lazy.

Besides, if I die of Corona it'd be doing me a favor.

[EchoRin]

I'm basically skipping the first two weeks that shit opens up here. I mean I'll continue my fast food/ pizza take out trips I've been doing now and then, but like hell I'm going to be dinning in early on when things open up.

[bluemax]

Study estimates 24 US states still have uncontrolled coronavirus spread

The coronavirus may still be spreading at epidemic rates in 24 states, particularly in the South and Midwest, according to new research that highlights the risk of a second wave of infections in places that reopen too quickly or without sufficient precautions.

Researchers at Imperial College London created a model that incorporates cellphone data showing that people sharply reduced their movements after stay-at-home orders were broadly imposed in March. With restrictions now easing and mobility increasing with the approach of Memorial Day and the unofficial start of summer, the researchers developed an estimate of viral spread as of May 17.
[...]
The model shows potentially ominous scenarios if people move around as they did previously and do so without taking precautions. In California and Florida, the death rate could spike to roughly 1,000 a day by July without efforts to mitigate the spread, according to the report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/study-estimates-24-states-still-have-uncontrolled-coronavirus-spread/2020/05/22/d3032470-9c43-11ea-ac72-3841fcc9b35f_story.html

Not enough praying, obviously.

I really am surprised that California is opening as fast as it is. Must be the economic pressure or just hospital capacity because cases are still up daily in LA. Mind you the rate they're up is about half of what it was 2 weeks ago, but still its always up.

[Bebpo]

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1263957793293336579

You know, I'd love to see a reporter on air ask them

"But President Trump says it's real and talks about fighting it all the time, are you saying that President Trump is a liar?"

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1264547856603627520

https://twitter.com/scottpasmoretv/status/1264394565861232640

St Louis this weekend.

[Madrun Badrun]

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1264248352683646976

I like that her husband has a proper mask.

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/greg_bonnell/status/1264376044062150656

I laughed at that tweet.

Most tweets I've seen are from boomers who live in houses with large backyards, or live in areas with low density, and thus have access to fairly empty parks. This is the biggest park in an area with tens and tens of thousands of Millennials and Zoomers living in tiny, newly built shoe boxes in the sky, boxes that cost $.5 to 1 million or $2,500 a month to rent. The current options are stay in the shoe box (like they have for ten weeks) or go to a park. Most of the other parks are just as crowded (I live in the neighborhood). Blame forty years of shitty city planning.

My only issue is the large individual groups. That said, the coronavirus is not is transmitted efficiently outdoors. Outbreaks happen at homes, transit, meat packing plants, churches, offices, restaurants etc.

[Madrun Badrun]

It's more the obvious disregard for the risk that indicates that they are doing risky things in other parts of life.  Also, I highly doubt those are family groups and not just friends getting together. 

[ToxicAdam]

Nothing was stopping the friends from getting together in the past 10 weeks either.

At some point people have to get over this idea of people congregating in open places. Life is going to have to go on at some point. One step at a time.

[Flannel Boy]

It's more the obvious disregard for the risk that indicates that they are doing risky things in other parts of life.  Also, I highly doubt those are family groups and not just friends getting together.

As I said, my issue was the large groups. Clearly, they don’t live together. That said, people would be freaking out just as much if the park was just as crowded, but everyone was in groups of 2-4.

That may indicate they are doing other risky or that this is the only time they get to see their friends (again this doesn’t transmit well outdoors).

[Tripon]

The risk with outside groups is being like that is everyone sitting down, IMO. The longer you spend time in a crowded group, the longer time an infected person can infect somebody else, outdoors, indoors, etc.

[Flannel Boy]

The risk with outside groups is being like that is everyone sitting down, IMO. The longer you spend time in a crowded group, the longer time an infected person can infect somebody else, outdoors, indoors, etc.

Ideally, they shouldn't be doing this. But I think it's unrealistic to expect Zoomers to stay locked up in their tiny condos away from their friends indefinitely. Yes, if they do meet up with their friends, they should wear masks (the one time my partner met with a friend they both wore masks).

"outdoors, indoors, etc." Probability matters.

Anyway, I probably shouldn't be defending the park-goers. Ontario is trending in the wrong direction.



This is the highest number of new cases reported in Ontario since May 8.

[tiesto]

They're opening the beaches here on LI this weekend, I'm staying far the fuck away though. We're expected to have "phase 1" of reopening (curbside pickup, which we... have?, construction, etc) in mid June provided the numbers hold, with gradual reopening every 2 weeks onward. I still think it's a bit too premature, and I can only imagine the stink that the entitled alt-right karens (and what's the male equivalent of karen?) will have when deaths get out of hand again and Cuomo decides another shutdown is in order. We've still been averaging about 120 cases a day in Nassau and Suffolk counties (of a total population of ~2.8 million).

[Positive Touch]

I'm sorry, but it's completely reasonable to think that these huge outdoor congregations (and let's not pretend it's just outdoors) are fucking stupid when NO acceptable measures have been taken to isolate the virus in this country. we do not have to accept that socialization will come with the risk of death from this point on; that's just beyond ridiculous.

[CatsCatsCats]

Submitted my claim this morning, will be shitting myself for two days hoping it processes. Shit, or longer because holiday


EditToAdd: there’s notice when you file that says “you are considered seeking work if you’re able and willing to do so once the state and local emergencies declarations are no longer in effect” and straight up tells you to mark the temp thing, so if it does crap out like I expect, I feel confident that I have a strong appeal case.

[bork]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulBlume_FOX9/status/1263970505482067968

[Kestastrophe]

[Bebpo]

I'm sorry, but it's completely reasonable to think that these huge outdoor congregations (and let's not pretend it's just outdoors) are fucking stupid when NO acceptable measures have been taken to isolate the virus in this country. we do not have to accept that socialization will come with the risk of death from this point on; that's just beyond ridiculous.

Yeah, a lot of people are saying we can't do this forever, we have to let people live.

But man, it's been two months, that's fucking pathetic. Let's talk about that in six months. It's because people are fucking rushing to get back out because they can't go 8 weeks without hanging with friends in person that this virus is not getting under control at all. If people were better disciplined like in a lot of countries in Asia, and could just follow procedure for a handful of months this virus would be mostly under control and people could go back out and do the things they want.

The virus is killing the west because people have no patience.

[Pissy F Benny]

I’d be more mad at that flattering depiction of ol stinky doody pants drumpfs stomach tbh

[Dickie Dee]

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1263957793293336579

Also this guy

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1263935118697062401

[Positive Touch]

If people were better disciplined like in a lot of countries in Asia, and could just follow procedure for a handful of months this virus would be mostly under control and people could go back out and do the things they want.

The virus is killing the west because people have no patience.

Most of the Asian countries (Japan, SK, Taiwan, Sinagpore) had fast, early responses with high compliance. It's easier to get people to do what you ask when all you're asking is for them to wear masks, wash their hands, and get tested. In China, the Wuhan lockdown was enforced with the military and robust state aid. And by the way, in most of the country, social distancing never exceeded two months. So, yeah, I think it is kind of crazy to expect people to just go along with this for this long, especially when half the political leadership is mewling about it the whole way and sabotaging the response. We set ourselves up to fail in a huge way.

so a normal response would be to demand effective and widespread testing and financial support for individuals and small businesses. a stupid dipfuck response would be to talk about how it's our right to go out to eat while forcing millions to choose between poverty or low wage jobs in unsafe environments. 

[curly]

If people were better disciplined like in a lot of countries in Asia, and could just follow procedure for a handful of months this virus would be mostly under control and people could go back out and do the things they want.

The virus is killing the west because people have no patience.

Most of the Asian countries (Japan, SK, Taiwan, Sinagpore) had fast, early responses with high compliance. It's easier to get people to do what you ask when all you're asking is for them to wear masks, wash their hands, and get tested. In China, the Wuhan lockdown was enforced with the military and robust state aid. And by the way, in most of the country, social distancing never exceeded two months. So, yeah, I think it is kind of crazy to expect people to just go along with this for this long, especially when half the political leadership is mewling about it the whole way and sabotaging the response. We set ourselves up to fail in a huge way.

ok but what we called a lockdown was around the level of what other countries did after opening up

[Madrun Badrun]

Almost all of Canada is doing pretty good except for Ontario, which seems to be going into a second wave, and Quebec, which never even peaked (so about 23m of 38m pop is doing poorly).  All the Maritimes are doing extremely well, even Nova Scotia, which was a worry in mid-late April.  Manitoba continues doing great.  Saskatchewan should have been able to be as good as Manitoba and it hurts my pride that wasn't but their cases are falling again after a second outbreak.  Alberta and BC and kind of plateaued at hospital bed usage.  The Maritimes, Manitoba, and maybe Saskatchewan could actually get to the point of doing containment.   

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/missouri-hairstylists-coronavirus-clients-trnd/index.html

[CatsCatsCats]

Maybe the latest stages of capitalism we can just reward people cash for being alive after the latest pandemic, disaster, etc

[Oblivion]

i had to cancel my e3 plans cause of the virus

and cause of these idiots, i may have to it again next year as well 

[Tripon]

E3 is dead. There's no way it comes back as this game only thing that was progressively not catering to companies, big and small.

[Oblivion]

you mean like fully dead dead or dead as in it's not going to come back in the form we're familiar with?

[Tripon]

You might have the bigger companies informally agreeing that the summer is a good time to release a bunch of info at the same time. We're just not going to see a week of new information and 100,000 people attending an event anymore.

[Nintex]

The industry is still in need of these events and get togethers like the GDC and E3 as a lot of business is done between publishers and developers behind the scenes.
In some cases it is the only opportunity for some devs and publishers to meet. However, it probably won't be the big 'video game reveal' show for consumers anymore and focus more on the business side of things.
E3 was always about the convenience of having the developers, publishers, retailers, investors and journalists from all over the world in one place.

That's ultimately why GamesCom won't ever be 'as big' no matter how hard they try. By August every developer is in crunch mode and very few bother to go to Europe.

[Oblivion]

i mean, i know the ESA's been trying to cater to everyone and failing, but what was the worst that's happened so far? Sorny not attending? well they didn't attend last year either. i know geoff keighly said he wasn't going to show up either, so that was kind of big and also a bummer. but 95% of e3 hadn't changed and 95% of publishers/developers were still showing up.

i know a lot of the big names stomp their feet loudly, complaining about how e3 is done, but this isn't really a new thing. remember back in the day when they had a much smaller and more 'professional' e3 and that abomination that was e4all? they were both such embarassing travesties that everyone came running back the following year.

edit: mostly agree with nintex

[Oblivion]

yeah but didn't that happen before the corona stuff? it was the virus that caused them to cancel it, not publishers dropping out from the data leak.

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1262689354566205441

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/chicken__puppet/status/1264692704690098176

[Nintex]

Pretty much every country has covered it up because no one has actually bothered(or has the resources) to test everyone that passed away to see if corona was the cause.
Most countries have started to 'adjust' those numbers but it's all pretty vague. Then there's also people with multiple conditions.

If someone with lung cancer dies of corona is cancer the cause or corona?

Russia lied about the deaths in Ukraine, their recent failed Nuclear test and many other such incidents.
It's not exactly shocking news that they might be covering this up too.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1264707014195806210
https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1264710626221400070
https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1264710971827933184

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1264674549431447556

[CatsCatsCats]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1264674549431447556

Aka IF EVERYONE WOULD HAVE SHUT THE FUCK UO AND STAYED HOME, THIS WOULD BE OVER

Sheesh

[Mandark]