Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[Oblivion]

I have no idear of my temp and had no idear people keep track of something like that, ya fackin androids 

i don't intentionally keep track of them. the only reason i'm aware of it is because of how rare it is when my temp deviates that much from the norm.

[BIONIC]

I have no idear of my temp and had no idear people keep track of something like that, ya fackin androids 

Maybe they don’t have easy access to dildos and a thermometer is the only suitable object they have to stick up their bum   

[Leadbelly]

Also other mentions was simply me being annoyed by people mocking the strategy. Again I thought there was at least some logic to it. It wasn't completely ludicrous.

The reason we were mocking the strategy is because it was clearly negligent, and it turned out exactly the way the pessimists predicted. As I write this, the current excess deaths literature suggests over 50,000 people have died in the UK. That's why Arvid and I get a little emotional over some of your posts.

It didn't turn out too great in the end. I do think though there is a possibility it turns out be a future model, weirdly enough. Just depends how long countries can stomach multiple lockdowns.

The 50,000 figure is excess deaths right? While I'm not going to argue against you in general, I do find the excess death figure kind of funny(not really, just an expression) because I have seen it used to argue that we aren't doing that bad. Mainly because the UK was the first country in Europe to top 30,000. And a presenter used the excess death figure to show it might not be entirely what it seems.

Again, I'm not really trying to refute you as such, only I really did see it used that way.

Honestly, here:

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8321793/Boris-declares-war-fat-PM-ditches-nanny-state-worries-demands-action.html#comments-8321793

Good honestly.  I've started to try to eat better due to this.

[OnlyRegret]

not a riveting sequel to the war on terror tbh

[BIONIC]

   The fats!!

[Madrun Badrun]

not a riveting sequel to the war on terror tbh

Wait for the conclusion to the trilogy where its Osama catapulting fatties into towers.   It will all be retconned as part of the Angry Birds EU. 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1261435676253229056

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1261436939888218119

[Verdigris Murder]

Kinda digging the hotline number to snitch on law-breakers. I called about my neighbor Jacob Sockness having a bunch of anal sex outside and yelling racial obscenities about COVID-19. He needs to be stopped.

[Madrun Badrun]

[OnlyRegret]

I pretended corona didn't exist as I acclimated to not leaving the house the past month. Has any research of note happened, are we less, more or lukewarm fucked currently?
American fuckery need not apply.

[Nintex]

I pretended corona didn't exist as I acclimated to not leaving the house the past month. Has any research of note happened, are we less, more or lukewarm fucked currently?
American fuckery need not apply.

A second wave in the fall is all but certain.
These are the scenario's our government projects.



1. Multiple slowly degrading waves over the next 24 months

2. Massive 2nd wave spike in the fall of 2020

3. It slowly mellows out after the first big wave has been flattened

[OnlyRegret]

Too potent to fizzle out, big kahuna of death later seems likelier with places rushing to open up.

[Nintex]

Pretty much.

The weirdest thing is the masks. In my country it is forbidden to own or wear medical masks unless you are an essential medical worker.
Even if you import them yourself they could be confiscated for use in hospitals.

If we want a mask we need to create our own 'non-medical' masks based on this PDF instruction (https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/binaries/rijksoverheid/documenten/publicaties/2020/05/09/covid-19-niet-medisch-mondkapje/Covid19_niet-medisch+mondkapje.pdf) or buy non-medical face masks. It will be mandatory to wear a non-medical mask in public transport starting June 1st.

[OnlyRegret]

Ah yes, the rural nothingness of Seoul. What an empty, lonely space.

[Great Rumbler]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8321793/Boris-declares-war-fat-PM-ditches-nanny-state-worries-demands-action.html#comments-8321793

Good honestly.  I've started to try to eat better due to this.

listen here fat

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1261456930284822530

This is the more  comment.

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1261407718893486080

[ToxicAdam]

ASHINGTON (AP) — Five sailors on the U.S. aircraft carrier sidelined in Guam due to a COVID-19 outbreak have tested positive for the virus for the second time and have been taken off the ship, according to the Navy.

The resurgence of the virus in the five sailors on the USS Theodore Roosevelt underscores the befuddling behavior of the highly contagious virus and raises questions about how troops that test positive can be reintegrated into the military, particularly on ships.

All five sailors had previously tested positive and had gone through at least two weeks of isolation. As part of the process, they all had to test negative twice in a row, with the tests separated by at least a day or two before they were allowed to go back to the ship.

SS Incubator

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/michael_hendrix/status/1261396172503056384

https://twitter.com/michael_hendrix/status/1261396175627841536

Hundreds of thousands of New York City residents, in particular those from the city’s wealthiest neighborhoods, left as the coronavirus pandemic hit, an analysis of multiple sources of aggregated smartphone location data has found.

Roughly 5 percent of residents — or about 420,000 people — left the city between March 1 and May 1. In the city’s very wealthiest blocks, in neighborhoods like the Upper East Side, the West Village, SoHo and Brooklyn Heights, residential population decreased by 40 percent or more, while the rest of the city saw comparably modest changes.

[Phoenix Dark]

A patient battling COVID-19 in Florida admits that he used to believe the pandemic was being blown out of proportion. But, after he and his wife were hospitalized with serious infections, he’s urging people to take coronavirus seriously.

“I don’t want to see anybody go through what I went through,” Brian Lee Hitchens, a ride-share driver in Jupiter, Florida, told WPTV-TV in West Palm Beach in an interview from his hospital bed. “This wasn’t some scare tactic that anybody was using. It wasn’t some made-up thing. This is a real virus that you’ve got to take serious.”

Just last month, Hitchens said he was skeptical about coronavirus and didn’t think the crisis was real.

“I thought it was maybe the government trying something, and it was kind of like they threw it out there to kinda distract us,” he told the TV station.

“I’d get up in the morning and pray and trust in God for his protection, and I’d just leave it at that. There were all these masks and gloves. I thought it looks like a hysteria,” he added.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/florida-man-brian-hitchens-coronavirus-warning-001955197.html

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[Mandark]

Ah yes, the rural nothingness of Seoul. What an empty, lonely space.

thatsthejoke.jpg

[Mandark]

It didn't turn out too great in the end. I do think though there is a possibility it turns out be a future model, weirdly enough. Just depends how long countries can stomach multiple lockdowns.

The 50,000 figure is excess deaths right? While I'm not going to argue against you in general, I do find the excess death figure kind of funny(not really, just an expression) because I have seen it used to argue that we aren't doing that bad. Mainly because the UK was the first country in Europe to top 30,000. And a presenter used the excess death figure to show it might not be entirely what it seems.

Again, I'm not really trying to refute you as such, only I really did see it used that way.

Honestly, here:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNiAUPREkl8

That video shows that unreported COVID19 deaths are likely in five figures. That is not good! That is bad!

He is only arguing that the UK is "not doing so bad" compared only to Italy, where the undercount has been particularly high. According to the Economist, there is less of a gap between reported COVID19 and total excess deaths in France and Spain than there is in the UK. Adding 11k deaths certainly doesn't make the UK look better compared to South Korea et al.

Also, saying Italy is worse is not an argument in favor of light-touch "mitigation" strategies! Italy had more deaths than the UK by the dates they started their respective lockdowns.

[Yeti]

Nice to see TellTale games getting work again

[Mandark]

On topic for the last couple pages:

https://twitter.com/justinboldaji/status/1261296312030355456

[Leadbelly]

It didn't turn out too great in the end. I do think though there is a possibility it turns out be a future model, weirdly enough. Just depends how long countries can stomach multiple lockdowns.

The 50,000 figure is excess deaths right? While I'm not going to argue against you in general, I do find the excess death figure kind of funny(not really, just an expression) because I have seen it used to argue that we aren't doing that bad. Mainly because the UK was the first country in Europe to top 30,000. And a presenter used the excess death figure to show it might not be entirely what it seems.

Again, I'm not really trying to refute you as such, only I really did see it used that way.

Honestly, here:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNiAUPREkl8

That video shows that unreported COVID19 deaths are likely in five figures. That is not good! That is bad!

He is only arguing that the UK is "not doing so bad" compared only to Italy, where the undercount has been particularly high. According to the Economist, there is less of a gap between reported COVID19 and total excess deaths in France and Spain than there is in the UK. Adding 11k deaths certainly doesn't make the UK look better compared to South Korea et al.

Also, saying Italy is worse is not an argument in favor of light-touch "mitigation" strategies! Italy had more deaths than the UK by the dates they started their respective lockdowns.

Lucky I never said it was then. :p

As far as I can gather, it's actually too early to tell who has been hit hardest anyway. There are multiple reasons why this is unclear.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/TanookiKuribo/status/1261451245790748672

they should just do the whole show like this!

scanner darkly 

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1261008418246144003

[Leadbelly]

This tic you have of propagating claims and then saying that you're only the messenger is... not endearing.

Funny... I thought I explicitly said I was not refuting your argument by posting it. I thought I made it clear. You know I said it because I didn't intend to argue about this. It seems words don't mean anything though. It's need to 'win' bullshit again. I simply found it funny because it's the same statistics used to show opposite conclusions.

[Mandark]

"Look, all I do is post videos that promote a certain viewpoint, why do you guys all think I'm sympathetic to that viewpoint? I always include a perfunctory caveat!"

[Leadbelly]

Also other mentions was simply me being annoyed by people mocking the strategy. Again I thought there was at least some logic to it. It wasn't completely ludicrous.

The reason we were mocking the strategy is because it was clearly negligent, and it turned out exactly the way the pessimists predicted. As I write this, the current excess deaths literature suggests over 50,000 people have died in the UK. That's why Arvid and I get a little emotional over some of your posts.

It didn't turn out too great in the end. I do think though there is a possibility it turns out be a future model, weirdly enough. Just depends how long countries can stomach multiple lockdowns.

The 50,000 figure is excess deaths right? While I'm not going to argue against you in general, I do find the excess death figure kind of funny(not really, just an expression) because I have seen it used to argue that we aren't doing that bad. Mainly because the UK was the first country in Europe to top 30,000. And a presenter used the excess death figure to show it might not be entirely what it seems.

Again, I'm not really trying to refute you as such, only I really did see it used that way.

Honestly, here:

I qualified the point twice. I am not arguing against you. I'm not really trying to refute you. Seems pretty clear to me. I wasn't looking for an argument on this.

And to be honest, it's not like there aren't points of contest I could have. There is. For instance I could say France's excess figures are very provisional based on the way they are recorded. In fact many countries record deaths in different ways, making it hard to compare. I just simply didn't want it from the start and preempted it by qualifying it though. It didn't work. lol

[team filler]

california budget cuts are gonna hurt 

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1261318161850347520

[Madrun Badrun]

https://pressprogress.ca/amazon-tells-canadian-warehouse-workers-theyre-getting-a-pay-cut/

As Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos prepares to become the first trillionaire in the world, workers at Amazon’s Canadian warehouses have been notified that the company is going to roll back their wages.

According to an internal company memo obtained by PressProgress, Amazon told workers this week it has decided to cancel hero pay that was granted in recognition of hazardous working conditions during the coronavirus pandemic.

[Coffee Dog]

Asked the grocery delivery how business has been, how the job's been treating him. "It was really crazy a couple weeks ago, but it's really dried up. You see the walmart down the road? It's packed! Nobody's getting it delivered."

I don't know what I expected

[thisismyusername]

Speaking of Wal-mart: Able to go in and check phones.

Want to make sure to buy it unlocked, go to Best Buy: Totally closed and need to order online/Curbside Pickup.

On one hand: Good for Best Buy for protecting their employees. On the other: I wanted to get the fucking replacement phone today since my current one is "healthcare battery plz"-ing from 80 to 30% in like 4 hours (and getting weaker). But now I need to order from NewEgg or Amazon (ugh) and hopefully 1-day deliver it.

[CatsCatsCats]

I did see today with chase they’re offering to forebear my mortgage for 3 months if I want, payments added to end of loan. Might do that, just for extra coin in my pocket rn

[CatsCatsCats]

So you’re saying the 3 months being added in the back end will be significantly more expensive to me than if I just pay now? I did enroll, because as I saw it in the terms, I can still pay it on time and it will be processed normally if I choose, so nothing to lose getting it squared away.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Going back to the office on monday for a week, then 3 weeks from home again so other teams get their week at the office. Rinse and repeat.

On the one hand its nice to see folk, but it wont be the same (no table tennis during lunch breaks ) but on the other hand working for home is good for family life and free time.

I hop in the future i can do 1-2 days a week from home.

[Dickie Dee]

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1261702205096308736

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.thestar.com/business/2020/05/16/for-profit-nursing-homes-have-had-far-worse-covid-19-outcomes-than-public-facilities-and-three-of-the-largest-paid-out-15-billion-to-shareholders.html?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=NationalNews&utm_content=ltcnursinghomesprofit&fbclid=IwAR2NZ9Gr8vVRnMk7hpb0c130mRRoQxx7UiztZp117tdAr1r0_bnTvsBOeRc

For-profit nursing homes have had far worse COVID-19 outcomes than public facilities — and three of the largest paid out $1.5 billion to shareholders

[CatsCatsCats]

Death for fun and profit!

[Rufus]

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1261640911009779717

The new imports. Coronavirus 

[Ghoul]

[Ghoul]

Way to fuck that up

Don't worry the sign police got him.

[Great Rumbler]

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I am a FREE
I am not MAN
A NUMBER

[Akala]

I am a FREE
I am not MAN
A NUMBER

it's almost poetic

[Bebpo]

Went for a jog for the first time in a few weeks. Was alright, I need to get out of my area and get out of my car somewhere.

I'm kinda tempted one weekend to do the PCH drive up to SF and back (~6 hours probably with no traffic these days) for Big Sur ocean/beaches & Redwood Forests. Dunno where I could stop along that path where it wouldn't be crowded with other people, but that's a lot of coastline so probably somewhere I could pull over and stretch and breathe in some nature.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/stephaniemlee/status/1261404852053131264

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/16/21258834/coronavirus-essential-workers-hazard-pay-kroger-target-covid

[Madrun Badrun]

[bork]

We just went out to pick up take-out from two places.  The first was from a restaurant in the same place as the local mall- the parking lot was almost full.  Can't even imagine stepping foot inside a mall right now, holy shit.

Then the other place is on a busy street in the area full of shops/restaurants.  It was a ghost town right up until this past week- there were so many cars and people walking around that you'd think the pandemic was over.  Zero social distancing going on. Fucking crazy.

[Ghoul]

Yeah kinda the same here, now the unlimited exercise and you can travel anywhere thing is going on it’s just pretty crazy, just so many people doing whatever the fuck they want and then you have people protesting about staying indoors, like it’s some terrible torture to do. The real scary thing is if you get it bad a work colleague of mine has been in hospital for over a month now on a vent and in an induced coma.

But sure guys it’s just 5G and bats making you sick. Absolutely stupid.

[bork]

https://twitter.com/tripgore/status/1261378270190133249

[Madrun Badrun]

I think I came up with a solution to America.  What is better than cheap gas? Free gas.  But only free gas.  You get to go out but only if you have gas.  Someone from the government will drop off your monthly ration.  This will also prop up big oil.  Everyone will be happy. 

[Bebpo]

We just went out to pick up take-out from two places.  The first was from a restaurant in the same place as the local mall- the parking lot was almost full.  Can't even imagine stepping foot inside a mall right now, holy shit.

Then the other place is on a busy street in the area full of shops/restaurants.  It was a ghost town right up until this past week- there were so many cars and people walking around that you'd think the pandemic was over.  Zero social distancing going on. Fucking crazy.

The weirdest thing I've learned from all this is how many people rely 100% on what other people tell them to do and don't think for themselves.

Like I know so many intelligent people that are like "I'm watching to see when Newsom says it's ok to go to Diners and eat inside because I'll go out once he does" or once the city opens beaches I'll go there because they opened them. It's like once someone says something is ok, they think it's 100% safe and everything is fine again.

I have moderate anxiety and I already get anxiety about going outside lately because of the mask thing and if you wear a mask some crazy person may try to start shit with you because you're wearing a mask and if you don't wear a mask someone might get in your face for not wearing one, so the anxiety of that is already keeping me from going out much. But what I'm really worried about is once they re-open most things in another month or two and everyone thinks this is "over" even though we'll still be in the middle of deaths that if I wear a mask outside at that point it's more likely than ever people will get aggressive with me.

I actually would feel a lot more comfortable driving to somewhere in a different less populated city walking around because of that. It's even more awkward if you run into your neighbors and they're all right wing truthers and crazy on this. I've been avoiding my neighbor who has a parking garage directly opposite of mine and likes to spend most of his day standing in his garage being the neighborhood watch and talking to everyone he sees, because he's always been a crazy anti-vax, racist trump kind of retired old guy. I used to run into him about twice a week and have a short conversation when I was parking or leaving, but I haven't seen him for like 2 months because I'm purposely avoiding encountering him.

[Madrun Badrun]

gimme some beans and I'll give you all the gas you want

The original negative priced gas. 

[Oblivion]

Speaking of Wal-mart: Able to go in and check phones.

Want to make sure to buy it unlocked, go to Best Buy: Totally closed and need to order online/Curbside Pickup.

On one hand: Good for Best Buy for protecting their employees. On the other: I wanted to get the fucking replacement phone today since my current one is "healthcare battery plz"-ing from 80 to 30% in like 4 hours (and getting weaker). But now I need to order from NewEgg or Amazon (ugh) and hopefully 1-day deliver it.

i actually meant to stop by best buy some time to get a phone myself. stores like target were open but i dunno if BB is as well.


might not be the right thread for it, but since we're on the topic of phones....apple or android? 

[ToxicAdam]

Whew. Just got back from a state park hike and it was like Fourth of July out there. Every parking spot filled and every picnic table and grill packed with multiple families. Dozens of biker convoys 15 people deep driving through.

Quarantine is over.