Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[Uncle]

We still want everyone to act in a cordial manner, and anyone outright dismissing allegations prior to evidence coming out, will be shown the door. If the story ends up being true in the accused's favor, and someone was banned before for having enthusiastic doubt, then tough shit. I don't care. You can stay banned.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Sabrina is not okay.

[Averon]

Cerium probably sitting back and laughing his ass off.  Dropped all this drama on Hecht and B-Dubs' lap while he ran out the back door with all the ad money. Better yet, for Cerium at least, they are doing it for free.

[samir]

Hecht all up in that thread being ass mad as usual 

[Momo]

From what I can see the matter isnt even settled yet and they are already there to justify their initial hot takes with new hot takes, jesus christ learn for once

[Averon]

You know, if you don't like it, you can fuck off somewhere else.

patientzero is really pushing it.

[samir]

You know, if you don't like it, you can fuck off somewhere else.

Were I to use this same language and tone toward another poster I would be banned. But you're a mod.

 

[Averon]

Were I to use this same language and tone toward another poster I would be banned. But you're a mod.

You're fucking right.

 

[VomKriege]

You know ERA, we really are the last of GAF.

[Freyj]

lol I thought GAF moderation was bad and they had a fucking pedo on staff

[Momo]

Since this is the thread it's being talked about in.


How about explicitly saying - in the FAQ, say - that questioning of news sources and reporter's biases is not the same as dismissing accusations? Because it should not be contentious to say "I'll wait for the WaPo to report on this, given Ronan Farrow's reluctance to get involved". Certainly an argument could be said for "Why doesn't that user just shut up?", but that's besides the point. Stating that you will wait for more reporting on the matter should not have users brigading threads or mass reporting posts. Other threads regarding sexual assault accusations went far smoother than the Reade/Biden threads, and that is in no small part due to moderation, as well the person being accused, and the media organisations that first ran the story.


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If their duplicitous liars are talking about it, but ours arent then it's not real

[VomKriege]

From what I can see the matter isnt even settled yet and they are already there to justify their initial hot takes with new hot takes, jesus christ learn for once

Yeah, none of the stuff uncovered (as far as I can tell, I didn't care to deep dive in that shit, that's 100x the rolling in mud with pigs activity than the shit we do IMHO) is mutually exclusive from having been the victim of sexual abuse / impropriety / harassment which is so depressingly common.

Obviously I see that having a sketchy record of lying or dubious statements, even unrelated, is not going to help with credibility at large when the entire accusation is -out of the reality of many situations- based on claims.

But, heh, it's not the vane that turns, it's the wind.

[Momo]

From what I can see that she lied about her education isnt even definitively settled. I havent dug deep into this either 


Come talk with me about Putin in the international thread :putinwink

[Boredfrom]

From what I can see that she lied about her education isnt even definitively settled. I havent dug deep into this either 


Come talk with me about Putin in the international thread :putinwink

The Era way.

In any case, say what you will about the situation but:

You know, if you don't like it, you can fuck off somewhere else.

This is gold beyond PoliEra and SocialismEra could come up.

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maninthemirror redeemed 

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[Momo]

Since this is the thread it's being talked about in.


How about explicitly saying - in the FAQ, say - that questioning of news sources and reporter's biases is not the same as dismissing accusations? Because it should not be contentious to say "I'll wait for the WaPo to report on this, given Ronan Farrow's reluctance to get involved". Certainly an argument could be said for "Why doesn't that user just shut up?", but that's besides the point. Stating that you will wait for more reporting on the matter should not have users brigading threads or mass reporting posts. Other threads regarding sexual assault accusations went far smoother than the Reade/Biden threads, and that is in no small part due to moderation, as well the person being accused, and the media organisations that first ran the story.


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If their duplicitous liars are talking about it, but ours arent then it's not real

Same guy, a few posts later complaining about media bias links to a vox article

[Boredfrom]

Again, public opinion =/= court of law. If the court determines that it is false, then ok. I mean, not really "ok," given the justice system, but yeah, at least it's colloquially a "settled matter." And yes, MeToo is largely about letting these stories be told, but the problem is that by default, for years, these stories are automatically assumed to be false. The whole movement was an attempt to try to put that power into the hands of the victims, not the accused, as it has been for decades.

I love how Hecht this is a good counterpoint to post it twice.

Holy shit him thinking “public opinion”  is more just than a court of law, is he ten years old?

Edit:

The first. I mean by virtue of saying "I want to wait for more info" you are essentially saying that the person is lying, so....take that as you will.

   

No wonder why Cerium just decided to fuck off, Hecht is nuts.

[Momo]

ban poligaf
close bore registration
let them all float away like free radicals on the interwebs

[Boredfrom]

Ban socialist RE too.

Let Biden and Bernie kiss in peace.

[Ghoul]

They really are kicking this off early today huh? Good. I’m off all day and can do with some fireworks.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Ketkat is shaking with rage right now, she’s gonna come back from her month ban and say something stupid and get herself banned again, after all she is a victim too.

Can someone photoshop ketkats picture onto the careful he’s a hero meme but then change it to she’s a victim?

[Snoopycat_]

"There really needs to be a seperate thread to discuss the seperate issue of how we as a community and individually respond to something like this."

Another one? Jeez. How many times do they need to make that thread.



https://www.resetera.com/threads/tara-reade-appears-to-have-lied-under-oath-about-her-education-defense-lawyers-seek-to-get-convictions-overturned-in-cases-where-she-testified.210411/page-22#post-34700940

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

The story doesn't seem to have taken the world by storm. So why investigate every aspect of her life? Just leave it be. Unless they find out she's a Russian agent of some kind I don't know if every single bad thing she's done should be a news story.

Because that's modern politics, and that's why I said I find it implausible that someone with any evidence at all of being a full on rapist would get to be VP, because both teams have already rigorously scoured every inch of their lives for any wrongdoing that can be used against them.

It's also partially why you get a Trump who is clearly completely unfuckingsuitable for the job coming in from outside the party machine, because the party machine has pre-emptively narrowed down the list of permissible candidates and if they're all apparently shitty it's because the ones that maybe aren't as ostensibly shitty have big fucking skeletons holding them down

[Transhuman]

Can you explain it to me because I honestly don't understand it.

Not just the ban, but also what they're talking about

[HaughtyFrank]

Were I to use this same language and tone toward another poster I would be banned. But you're a mod.

You're fucking right.

 

Who would have thought that that making a doxxer admin was a bad idea.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I like how in hechts mind he's this bad ass alcoholic detective doing the dirty work no one else in the department has the nuts to get done because the city is a sewer and he's the last line in keeping a tiny part of it clean.

When in reality he's more like a mall cop giving customers needless attitude because he doesn't like the look of them, while his supposed buddies are straight up running a stolen credit card ring and laughing at him behind his back.

[Don Rumata]

EDIT: Yeah. """Insiders""" are always hilarious tho.

[Transhuman]

I guess I don't get how that's "Offsite drama" but then again it's gaming side and i'll never understand that shit

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Were I to use this same language and tone toward another poster I would be banned. But you're a mod.

You're fucking right.

Clown shoes.

[Nintex]

Tara Reade lied about her education, she can't testify! LOCK HER UP! 

Joe Biden lied about his education and many other things, he'd make a great President! 

"I told you these allegations were probably false, these ho's lie all the time" 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

RE is full of batshit snoys, not to mention the dreaded and ancient nintendo cultists. But the handful of hardcore MS fanboys there are such weirdos, somehow more thin skinned than their counterparts and always come off as pathetic. The ever sacred MC scores always letting them down, lack of exclusivity and only studio acquisitions to look forward to created a rather rare bread of console warrior.

Because sony and ms are basically the same fucking thing now, theres always a winner or a loser, and whichever team is losing get insanely butthurt bout it, again, because they're basically the same thing.
This gens xbots are last gens PS3 second job owners.

Nintendo and PC fanboys work on their own levels at like, a tangent to the sony/ms console war, and intersect with it on occasion

[Nintex]

I love my Xbox One X but both Microsoft and Sony haven't had an original video game idea in maybe a decade and the PlayStation/Xbox rivalry is being used by AMD to sell the same chips to two customers instead of one. 

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tara-reade-appears-to-have-lied-under-oath-about-her-education-defense-lawyers-seek-to-get-convictions-overturned-in-cases-where-she-testified.210411/page-19#post-34695438

I (we) have nothing against warnings. But while I originally envisioned warnings (and, to be fair, bans) as a way to have users recognize why their behavior was wrong, and ultimately many of them not addressing that behavior, it just became less of a preferred tactic. If people actually learned from their mistakes then it would be a different beast, but for now if they are banned, we have an appeals process.

We actually used warnings a ton back when the site started, and lower bans. Didn't help. So we are where we are now.

They should be getting back to me any day now!  It has only been several months! 

We actually used warnings a ton back when the site started, and lower bans. Didn't help. So we are where we are now.

 

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tara-reade-appears-to-have-lied-under-oath-about-her-education-defense-lawyers-seek-to-get-convictions-overturned-in-cases-where-she-testified.210411/page-19#post-34695438

Thanks for doing a great job.

Given the reasons inciting this site's founding, we've gone to more severe bans for things involving dismissing accusations of sexual harassment/assault. While some threads can offer some leeway, the general policy of harsh bans for such is concrete. We always take into account a user's history, so while one person may be banned for a longer period of time than another, it's most likely due to prior infractions.

[Don Rumata]

RE is full of batshit snoys, not to mention the dreaded and ancient nintendo cultists. But the handful of hardcore MS fanboys there are such weirdos, somehow more thin skinned than their counterparts and always come off as pathetic. The ever sacred MC scores always letting them down, lack of exclusivity and only studio acquisitions to look forward to created a rather rare bread of console warrior.

I guess I don't get how that's "Offsite drama" but then again it's gaming side and i'll never understand that shit

discord screen caps.

How can you be a MS fanboy and not be? 

[Momo]

imagine what bill gates' semen must taste like

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

We actually used warnings a ton back when the site started, and lower bans. Didn't help. So we are where we are now.

 

[thisismyusername]

What could it cost, Homomo? $10?

[Raist]

I agree they're the same in "yes corporate entity you're my number one queen slaaaaay". If MS chose to instead release a lot of exclusive linear AAA cinematic games tailor made for high MC scores they would stop regurgitating PR or even pretend to be pro-consumer with the ecosystem talk. Same for Sony fans if gamepass, crossplay and the PC ecosystem stuff was sony's strategy. Gotta support your team and never ever criticize.

My point was more the beaten down position they're in. It took a while and I loved dunking on the PS3 for it but it got a lot of exclusive games eventually (and ended up working out for them a gen later as most PS4 first party exclusives are making insane bank now). So it was still list wars debates and tech and that junk. We'll def see tech brought up as next gen comes close with the teraflops being thrown around by people who don't understand what they mean. But not having any real first party games come out frequently and not many getting much attention for the MC score dick measuring contests they just go on and on by which dev MS will buy next, who they bought and "man this third party game would be perfect for gamepass!". They barely ever talk about any actual games cause MS first party has been noticeably weaker and came out fewer and farther between.

Xbot: Hey guys is investing trillions in FP studios. Might even buy Sega/Capcom/R*

Xbox: Hey guys we blew our load on buying Minecraft so we're gonna just acquire a couple B-tier studios you guys were laughing about last gen


Rinse and repeat.

[Nintex]

You can take the Xbox out of Microsoft but you can't take the Microsoft out of Xbox.

https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1257750656384929793

[thisismyusername]

Have those B-tiers actually done anything? Obsidian is still designing for next-gen, but Ninja Theory was bought last generation and produced nothing.

[bork]

The whole patientzero/Hecht exchange:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tara-reade-appears-to-have-lied-under-oath-about-her-education-defense-lawyers-seek-to-get-convictions-overturned-in-cases-where-she-testified.210411/page-20#post-34696467

That said, I looked at the Hutton thread and the reports generated from the thread - I see several posts that probably should have caught a ban, but were never reported. We get thousands of posts per day and we don't see all of them, because it's impossible, so we rely on reports for a lot of things we may miss.

Used to be a place that wasn't so lazy as to necessitate user reports; instead, mods would clean house as necessary.

HA LAZY SO FUNNY
Only after being notified if there was a thread that needed cleaning. GAF, in the day, was good at taking care of business, but even they missed things.

No, it's not fucking funny. It's outrageous. It's a passive job that seems to require no active containment of things growing out of control, metastasizing until you're left without a userbase.

I feel like you didn't read my post

Perhaps you shouldn't be posting if you cannot properly delineate the staff's decision-making process.

"Passive job."
Hilarious. You're a real comedian. You know, if you don't like it, you can fuck off somewhere else.

Were I to use this same language and tone toward another poster I would be banned. But you're a mod.

You're fucking right.

User Banned (2 weeks): hostility, prior recent ban for hostility

It is utterly infuriating to be someone who has been committed to progressive causes, from racial issues to sex issues to identity issues in general, for over 20 years, and yet dismissed for being fucking RIGHT in a singular situation, but lambasted by ignorant motherfuckers who discovered politics 4 years ago. And those technical 4-year-olds hold the keys, dismiss any insight, and fall prey to everything you warn them about.

[Raist]

Hey now they made a 30s CGI trailer of weird people speaking in tongues.

[bork]

Have those B-tiers actually done anything? Obsidian is still designing for next-gen, but Ninja Theory was bought last generation and produced nothing.

Hellblade?

[Momo]

What could it cost, Homomo? $10?

I'm a considerably cheaper product than this, not even china can compete

[Nintex]

Have those B-tiers actually done anything? Obsidian is still designing for next-gen, but Ninja Theory was bought last generation and produced nothing.

Crackdown 4 is gonna be lit.

SUPER SECRETS

The Initiative is working on something DARK & PERFECT

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[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Have those B-tiers actually done anything? Obsidian is still designing for next-gen, but Ninja Theory was bought last generation and produced nothing.

they only announced they were being bought mid 2018

[Raist]

Oh I forgot (like pretty much everyone else), they made Bleeding Edge. lolz.

[thisismyusername]

Have those B-tiers actually done anything? Obsidian is still designing for next-gen, but Ninja Theory was bought last generation and produced nothing.

they only announced they were being bought mid 2018

So, by theory of 2-year development cycles: Ninja Theories shit should be out now. But instead, they're doing Next-gen like Obsidan. 

Oh I forgot (like pretty much everyone else), they made Bleeding Edge. lolz.

Ohhhhh shit. Ok, well... that's ONE thing their "bought studios" has done. But it's gone off like a wet-fart.

MS truly is the Halo, Forza, Gears studio.

(When is Forza Horizon 3 hitting Steam, MS? )

[Nintex]

How could you all forget this incredible appealing product from Xbox Game Studios?


I've always wanted to play as a cowboy with clownshoes and a mummified head, an inclusive character riding on a monster truck uni-cyle and of course the best of all. A Ninja with crayons on his back.
Also you gotta love the mad hatter Johnny Depp reference.

[SmokyDave]

imagine what bill gates' semen must taste like

A blank Betamax cassette.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-your-view-on-porn.210597/

With many of us still stuck at home for the foreseeable future and dating basically being no bueno, a lot of people's sexual needs must have been going unfulfilled for months. To the point that the Dutch government have advised people to find a sex buddy. Inevitably, a good chunk of those folks will turn to porn, which is by no means an unpopular media to consume even in non-social distancing times.

Some feminist schools of thought have denounced what they believe are the harmful side-effects of porn to women and behaviorists have also argued that, when consumed in excess, porn may also fuck up your brain chemistry in unexpected ways. Obviously none of this is hard evidence but should be perhaps taken into consideration when regarding the matter. So I'll ask the community here what are your views on porn and maybe about your porn viewing (acting?) habits.

 

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The New York Post article is actually from someone at Fox News.

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[thisismyusername]

Outer Worlds came out of Obsidian and is an IP MS owns now

Incorrect: Private Division and Take-Two own it.

(they started on the project way before the acquisition, though)

Correct. Which is why I wasn't including them in the process and said they were focusing on next-gen as they got bought end of last year, this year.

Ninja Theory and the others though, as Stupid Monkey said: 2018. Their shit should be out on THIS X-box, but outside of Ninja Theories which stealth released: Has any of them put out anything?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

So, by theory of 2-year development cycles: Ninja Theories shit should be out now. But instead, they're doing Next-gen like Obsidan. 

I think ninja theory are a trash studio that embody the concept of hire a bunch of artists and forget to hire a game designer, but they're also exactly the kind of studio you'd expect to make a launch title for your shiny new box, not something for the tail end of your existing cycle.

Microsofts Guerrila Games. Or PS3 era Ninja Theory (remember HEAVENLY SWORD? )

[Momo]

imagine what bill gates' semen must taste like

A blank Betamax cassette.

oddly specific, i'll allow it

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-your-view-on-porn.210597/

I like big-tit MILFs, massage scenes and well shot DP scenes where the goal isn't to give the actor a prolapsed anus.

Yep, i developed prostatite by wanking too much. Not a joke.

Milking table palz out there?

Modern pornography direct from the performers is an actually pretty interesting development. OnlyFans and personal websites and the like give content creators full control, and the quality is only limited by their imagination and personal resources.

I can't watch "real" porn anymore, especially after i found out how it's made, just feel bad whenever i see those Videos.

Nowadays all my porn consumption is ethically sourced hentai, patreon and onlyfans content

My view is that 2D>3D

Nowadays all my porn consumption is ethically sourced hentai, patreon and onlyfans content

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-your-view-on-porn.210597/page-2#post-34700889

are cooking channels porn if i crank it to them

boys club :/

I watch it, but only to talk to my friend I’m planning on dating about what I have seen😏 we like to compare notes for future plans lol.

everytime i think i like hot men i watch funny gay porn and realize that there are maybe only 2 hot men in the world i actually like on a sexual level

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I think ninja theory are a trash studio that embody the concept of hire a bunch of artists and forget to hire a game designer

True, which makes it weird that most of their games are ugly as sin.

You won't say that when you look at offscreen footage of Hipster Nonsense being played on the PS5 in the background of The Boys series 2!

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you probably could still say that

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[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-your-view-on-porn.210597/page-2#post-34706067

Not traditional porn but I read hentai doujin and look at hentai art on a daily basis, most of the time actually just looking at it without really doing anything. It's become a habit at this point, just like checking Twitter or reading this forum.

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[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I watch it, but only to talk to my friend I’m planning on dating about what I have seen😏 we like to compare notes for future plans lol.

One of the new Rick and Mortys did a joke about having a pornhub account so you could share your kinks with your gf and I was 

and then I remmebered dan harmon is super into incest porn and I was 

[NinjaDeath]

Have those B-tiers actually done anything? Obsidian is still designing for next-gen, but Ninja Theory was bought last generation and produced nothing.

The mere fact that they were purchased caused complete meltdowns on the site.   
You don’t get that with out people realizing the devs potential. 

And of course game’s aren’t made over night