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Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43440 on: June 05, 2021, 11:08:28 PM »
I mean that happened before with Nephente and BCT in other thread.

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. No one is excusing this behavior (especially after understanding the word that caused her to snap).

I just don't think there is a line where, once crossed, there is absolutely no understanding to be had. I'd much rather engage in analysis of what lead to the situation and how it could be prevented in the future than just repetitively engage in one-sided condemnation of what is obviously a heinous act of violence, but it always feels like these threads 100% devolve into the latter. There's no room for nuance so long as the line crossed is far enough back... and honestly? That's a problem.

Whether you like it or not - and a lot of folks REALLY want to play the "I'm better than this fool" card to justify throwing her life away in the American prison system - the circumstances of her life are relevant here and handwaving it all away just because the line crossed was physical violence is obnoxiously reductive. We can acknowledge she did wrong without shutting down literally all discussion as "excuses". They are NOT excuses, but they ARE contributing factors. Can we even acknowledge that without getting dogpiled?

There's good reason why I usually never step foot into threads like these, and the ineffable dogpiling is perfectly illustrative of that. Unfortunate.

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You want nuance with a mod that openly celebrated when a old lady was punched for using a racial slur in a bus.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43441 on: June 05, 2021, 11:21:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-6#post-66591440
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If you have something to say to someone you should really give them an @ so they can respond instead of side-talking or at least have the decency to know what Nepenthe actually said which is nothing like how people are presenting it. So weird all these people are coming out of the woodwork against her when if people just read her posts they'd see she said herself she was under a different impression before it was clarified, like it's real curious what the motivation is to keep this shit up when it's literally right there.

Uhh... no. You don't get to do that. Nepenthe fucked up, and when asked directly, by me, they decided to double down and dismiss concerns. You're trying to paint this as some almost conspirational attack on them, when that is not what's happening. There has -still- not been any walking back from the initial jump to conclusion, and every post that said it seemed very much like victim blaming, has been summarily dismissed with a "I don't care" attitude.

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Sorry, but people are still taking it too far regardless.

Cannot blame them at all for their initial post. It didn't at all warrent the responses after.
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I agree, some are. But RedMercury is dismissing every concern aimed at Nepenthe. That isn't right. There were definitely mistakes made today by the Admin team, and trying to pass it off as being 100% hunky dory isn't right either.

:popcorn

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Can you point at the exact thing in Nepenthe's post history ITT that actually needs these concerns?

 :gurl

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If you have something to say to someone you should really give them an @ so they can respond instead of side-talking or at least have the decency to know what Nepenthe actually said which is nothing like how people are presenting it. So weird all these people are coming out of the woodwork against her when if people just read her posts they'd see she said herself she was under a different impression before it was clarified, like it's real curious what the motivation is to keep this shit up when it's literally right there.

Is this post trolling?

 :betty
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43442 on: June 05, 2021, 11:29:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-7#post-66592469

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Quote from: Menchi
When I -directly- asked Nepenthe, why they hadn't corrected any of the initial statements, and basically doubled down on victim blaming, it was again, dismissed, with a "Sue me" comment.

Of course, because you were presenting it in a way that she didn't even mean lol, she doesn't think it was victim blaming and she doesn't owe you agreement. She admitted she had a different understanding of the article, if you want more than that that's your own problem. Her being an admin just means she does admin stuff, I don't know why you keep bringing that up like she has some special status, it's an internet forum lol she should be able to post like the rest of us, it doesn't mean she will always be right or people will always agree, you're taking this waaaay too far. If you care so much about how progressive this forum is then I'm sure you're familiar with Nepenthe being a big part of that for literal years so it's just weird people are so quick to throw her under the bus is all.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43443 on: June 05, 2021, 11:32:56 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-7#post-66592523

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How many people here on ERA would take that kind of treatment for a simple question? Vast majority of ERA would not take a moment to think about centuries of racial injustice or the inner working of Amazon. They would be "Don't be a bitch, just give me my Playstation." Most of ERA would agree if they are met with hostility, they would meet the hostility with equal words or force.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43444 on: June 05, 2021, 11:40:08 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-7#post-66593324

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yes, getting a notification that your package has been delivered, asking the delivery person about your package, waiting 15 minutes, then asking them again is harassment

how horrible of this 67 year old woman to behave like this, what is this world coming to

You're not even supposed to be confronting drivers yourself, it's supposed to be handled through Amazon customer service.

Going outside and talking to people
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43445 on: June 05, 2021, 11:43:57 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-7#post-66593396

Quote from: Nepenthe
If something like this happens again, with you or anyone else, I'll be far more charitable and amenable regardless of how I feel I'm being read.

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« Reply #43446 on: June 05, 2021, 11:45:00 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe
Gonna get to the point.

First, Menchi I straight up apologize for being a jerk to you. I was annoyed at the conflation between two different positions I had going on, and thus I read your post in an aggressive manner that, upon a re-read, obviously wasn't all that aggressive in the first place. You didn't deserve my attitude, so again I'm sorry. If something like this happens again, with you or anyone else, I'll be far more charitable and amenable regardless of how I feel I'm being read.

I also want to say it should be obvious that I don't think beating seniors all willy-nilly is okay. In this specific instance, a woman got suckerpunched in the back of the head over a negligible insult that resulted from a trivial issue with a package delivery. The whole situation is ridiculous and I think that the arrest of the driver was correct, and hopefully the victim didn't suffer significant long-term damage, physical or psychological, from the incident. Just as well, I apologize that in trying to explain myself, I contributed to the derailment of the thread. Regardless of my read of the article, my participation in an irrelevant tangent hurt others, and that wasn't okay, and I'll be more mindful of how these kinds of tangents can affect the course of a thread in the future.

BS

https://www.resetera.com/threads/racist-woman-calls-black-passengers-the-n-word-in-washington-d-c.62415/page-29#post-11579127

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She got pretty severely fucked up.

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She shouldn't have called a bus full of black people distinguished black fellows then.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43447 on: June 06, 2021, 12:00:37 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-7#post-66593396

Quote from: Nepenthe
If something like this happens again, with you or anyone else, I'll be far more charitable and amenable regardless of how I feel I'm being read.


1 month ban for derailing a sensitive thread when?
Or is it a case of some animals are more equal than others?
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43448 on: June 06, 2021, 12:00:55 AM »
What's funny about the bus story is a few days later, someone identified the woman that got beat up as a homeless person they knew with mental issues.

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« Reply #43449 on: June 06, 2021, 12:02:02 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-7#post-66593324

Quote from: Rover
Quote from: Salarians
yes, getting a notification that your package has been delivered, asking the delivery person about your package, waiting 15 minutes, then asking them again is harassment

how horrible of this 67 year old woman to behave like this, what is this world coming to

You're not even supposed to be confronting drivers yourself, it's supposed to be handled through Amazon customer service.

Going outside and talking to people
 :shaking

Quote from: Salarians
Quote from: Rover
You're not even supposed to be confronting drivers yourself, it's supposed to be handled through Amazon customer service.

simply asking about your package isn’t a “confrontation”, what are you even talking about
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A lot of people on Era do believe this though. If you interact in any way with someone in a service industry job some people here act like it is a grievance of the highest order.

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Quote from: Salarians
simply asking about your package isn’t a “confrontation”, what are you even talking about

What would you call it? They exchanged barbs, that much is pretty clear to me. I'd call that a confrontation. But it's not about blame, it's that Amazon doesn't want you doing that, let alone talking to drivers.
Quote from: StopMakingSense
you keep on making that claim but the text you quoted is very clearly not making any attempt to preclude you from asking the driver if they are right there.

“you can contact support” is not “don’t ask the driver under any circumstance”

 :brain
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43450 on: June 06, 2021, 12:20:39 AM »
lmao at "don't contact the driver under any circumstance"... i live on a restricted access area and the driver calls me all the time to meet me at the entry control point... guess i should get pummeled then..  :brain

that said the thread seems to be shocked that the same mod/admin that cleared a too high to drive dummy based on internet BAC analysis doesn't think too deeply before posting. if you're mad about it that's on you at this point :yeshrug
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« Reply #43451 on: June 06, 2021, 12:24:32 AM »
also the complete lack of bans or thread being 'temp locked due to reports'* says quite a bit. may be trouble in mod paradise right now.  :'(

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43452 on: June 06, 2021, 12:34:23 AM »
At least they haven’t yet banned the people raising concerns about Nepenthe’s victim blaming.  No doubt it’s been added to their “history” of histories for future banning purposes though.

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« Reply #43453 on: June 06, 2021, 12:49:51 AM »
Criticism thread hopping.

In response to the question about Royalan:

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Is this just gonna end up being a thinly-veiled attempt to revoke KetKat's ban or what.
This is a really bizarre assumption of bad faith to make when it's a completely reasonable thing to ask. Royalan left (stepped down from?) the staff over acephobic posts they'd made in the past. If they're apparently just back on staff now, is that not fair for someone to ask about?

...but I'm honestly not even sure how you got anywhere close to that conclusion to begin with. Pretty sure the way that specific incident ended was that Royalan wasn't even a staff member Ketkat had been talking about as being acephobic, and it was just that other people found their posts and thought it was. And importantly, that incident, uh, totally ended with Ketkat not banned? I'm really having a hard time following why you'd immediately think this is some secret attempt at ban relitigation.

Someone doesn't think Nepenthe should be able to mea culpa and get away free:
Quote from: Bragg
If we're going to allow staff to simply apologize without consequence, we should change the language in the Guidelines about "Every staff member is expected to follow the same rules as the rest of the forum."

This isn't the first time a member of staff has been able to "my bad" their way out of a post that would otherwise get a normal member banned/warned. We are not afforded that privilege.

(Nepenthe's apology here)

Also, if an Admin or other staff is reported, is there a way to ensure that other members of staff are the ones that review the report?

Is it possible to hide usernames of the ones reported or something to aid in mod impartiality? The report would just have the post and reason it was being reported without the name of the poster. Probably difficult to implement, but worth thinking about.

B-Dubs makes the first mod/admin post in the thread in a while and responds to both (because mistakes in your past are justification for getting don't-call-it-cancelled by the internet for the rest of your life, but shouldn't preclude Era modship):
Quote from: B-Dubs
Quote from: show me your skeleton
can someone explain why royalan is once again a mod after everything that happened
Well Roy has never been unwelcome in the first place. Years ago he chose to step down because he felt it was for the best at the time. As a Black and queer person he's dedicated his life to social justice and has been a model poster here. Yes, before this website existed, he made a post on another forum about how he felt that the legal discrimination and violence targeted at gay people was different from the asexual struggle. He's apologized unreservedly for that, and his intention was never to exclude.

The staff asked him to return as a moderator because he’s learned from his mistakes and we know how much good he can bring to the team and to the community.

Quote from: Bragg
If we're going to allow staff to simply apologize without consequence, we should change the language in the Guidelines about "Every staff member is expected to follow the same rules as the rest of the forum." This isn't the first time a member of staff has been able to "my bad" their way out of a post that would otherwise get a normal member banned/warned. We are not afforded that privilege.
Members aren't expected to make public mea culpas whenever they make a mistake, so that cuts both ways. Taking responsibility like Nepenthe did is exactly what she should be doing. Menchi accepted the apology and the thread has moved on.


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So the language should be changed in the Guidelines, as that's clearly a different set of rules for staff and regular members.

And that thread is still discussing the false narrative and derailment that Nepenthe helped create.

Also there are very clear posts of victim blaming by other members in that thread. Will action be taken?

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This is a really bizarre assumption of bad faith to make when it's a completely reasonable thing to ask. Royalan left (stepped down from?) the staff over acephobic posts they'd made in the past. If they're apparently just back on staff now, is that not fair for someone to ask about?
The only bizarre assumption is yours that it's a bizarre assumption of bad faith.
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I'm really having a hard time following why you'd immediately think this is some secret attempt at ban relitigation.
Actually cackling at this. How are we supposed to know what the next crackpot attempt to get ketkat unbanned is going to look like? It's a fair question tbqh, as fair as asking about the mod.

best thread on the entire stupid forum

Edit:
Quote from: B-Dubs
Folks, please do not fight each other over permanently banned members. We've already answered the question about Roy, so let's leave things at that.

Quote from: Bragg
So the language should be changed in the Guidelines, as that's clearly a different set of rules for staff and regular members.

I think you're misreading that line. Staff are expected to follow the same rules, and when they make mistakes we hope they will own up to them. The guidelines don't promise that they'll be banned for it; the forum software literally does not support that, so that was never the intended meaning.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2021, 01:04:29 AM by nobody of note »

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« Reply #43454 on: June 06, 2021, 01:03:31 AM »
i almost want to create an account just to read that dumb thread. almost.

here is where i point to a random account as my alt so it gets randomly banned by resetera staff. I'll find one in a sec :thinking:
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« Reply #43455 on: June 06, 2021, 01:04:56 AM »
also bdubs must realize that public mea culpas aren't possible for the hoi polloi as they're banned and told to slurp on mod knobs via email (which is never read). :lol
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« Reply #43456 on: June 06, 2021, 01:09:55 AM »
Why would anyone with financial interest in Resetera want to keep someone like Nepenthe as part of the staff? I don't get it. Unless your goal is to create black Stormfront.

My guess is that Nephente is tight with some of the staff and BCT influence is bigger than TransRE at this point given how Royalan was reinstated without much fanfare. Unless some user from RE gets involved in IRL shitshow I doubt Ad companies will care as long Nephente never admits being racist.

Don’t forget they gave bdubs his n-word pass, and will probably have a very public airing of racism grievances if BCT members are having their privileges revoked.

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« Reply #43457 on: June 06, 2021, 02:09:50 AM »
In the UK, sometimes it is hard to tell left from right especially when it comes to trans rights.

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« Reply #43458 on: June 06, 2021, 08:20:01 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-9

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User Banned (Duration Pending Further Admin Review): Inflammatory accusations and posting an out-of-context screenshot taken years ago to make misleading attacks

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This isn't her first "mistake".Isn't she the same person that was ok with killing white babies?
The admins need to do something about her or she needs to stfu already.Can't believe some of you call yourselves progressive and have these kind of takes.Makes me sick.

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« Reply #43460 on: June 06, 2021, 08:46:20 AM »
Oh man what an all time thread there

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« Reply #43461 on: June 06, 2021, 08:49:35 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-9

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User Banned (Duration Pending Further Admin Review): Inflammatory accusations and posting an out-of-context screenshot taken years ago to make misleading attacks

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This isn't her first "mistake".Isn't she the same person that was ok with killing white babies?
The admins need to do something about her or she needs to stfu already.Can't believe some of you call yourselves progressive and have these kind of takes.Makes me sick.

My hero!

Lol "out of context" screenshot.  Currently wondering what the context could be that would make Nepenthe's comment appropriate.

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« Reply #43462 on: June 06, 2021, 10:24:28 AM »
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Quote from: Bdumbs
Members aren't expected to make public mea culpas whenever they make a mistake, so that cuts both ways. Taking responsibility like Nepenthe did is exactly what she should be doing. Menchi accepted the apology and the thread has moved on.
members aren't expected to do that since they're banned on the spot.

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« Reply #43463 on: June 06, 2021, 12:42:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-delivery-driver-arrested-for-assaulting-woman.437192/page-9

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User Banned (Duration Pending Further Admin Review): Inflammatory accusations and posting an out-of-context screenshot taken years ago to make misleading attacks

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This isn't her first "mistake".Isn't she the same person that was ok with killing white babies?
The admins need to do something about her or she needs to stfu already.Can't believe some of you call yourselves progressive and have these kind of takes.Makes me sick.

My hero!

Out of context?? It literally requires no context. Its no better WITH context.

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« Reply #43464 on: June 06, 2021, 01:00:10 PM »
if you killed every white baby born in history there would have never been a Hitler, Putin or Trump :rollsafe
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« Reply #43465 on: June 06, 2021, 01:48:46 PM »
This thread is derailed with little chance of recovery. As such it is closed to further replies. Any remaining reports will be processed but the thread will remain locked.

 :nothing

 :lol :lol :lol

They aren't following because they don't want to follow. Intentionally misconstruing her words and posting blatant falsehoods such as she didn't walk back her initial stance (she did) just so they can justify ganging up on her. And it's not lost on me they're doing this to possibly the only black female mod on this forum.

Y'all think y'all slick but you're not. If you got some misogynynoir on your mind then say with it your chest rather than hide behind these feckless accusations.

:neogaf


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« Reply #43466 on: June 06, 2021, 01:54:02 PM »
Of course it must be because she is a black woman and not because she's an admin who has some fucked up takes on violence against the elderly and infants

Quote from: John Dunbar
Quote from: Bdumbs
Members aren't expected to make public mea culpas whenever they make a mistake, so that cuts both ways. Taking responsibility like Nepenthe did is exactly what she should be doing. Menchi accepted the apology and the thread has moved on.
members aren't expected to do that since they're banned on the spot.

 :neogaf :rejoice :sicko :popcorn :hesright

I love how B-dubs presents it as some kind of burden that moderators should apologize

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« Reply #43467 on: June 06, 2021, 02:10:18 PM »
Quote from: John Dunbar
Quote from: Bdumbs
Members aren't expected to make public mea culpas whenever they make a mistake, so that cuts both ways. Taking responsibility like Nepenthe did is exactly what she should be doing. Menchi accepted the apology and the thread has moved on.
members aren't expected to do that since they're banned on the spot.

 :neogaf :rejoice :sicko :popcorn :hesright
John Dunbar is one of the few Resetera posters I like.
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« Reply #43468 on: June 06, 2021, 02:42:48 PM »
This thread is derailed with little chance of recovery. As such it is closed to further replies. Any remaining reports will be processed but the thread will remain locked.

 :nothing

 :lol :lol :lol

They aren't following because they don't want to follow. Intentionally misconstruing her words and posting blatant falsehoods such as she didn't walk back her initial stance (she did) just so they can justify ganging up on her. And it's not lost on me they're doing this to possibly the only black female mod on this forum.

Y'all think y'all slick but you're not. If you got some misogynynoir on your mind then say with it your chest rather than hide behind these feckless accusations.

:neogaf

White man needs to fight a black woman’s battle and the people who dared to question her victim blaming rhetoric are the misogynists? :mindblown

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43469 on: June 06, 2021, 03:01:31 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-pc-gaming-entering-a-dark-age.437420/

well, you had a good run, maybe you'll have better luck with PC2

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I can't believe console only dipshits still try this shit at the start of every generation :rofl
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« Reply #43470 on: June 06, 2021, 03:09:20 PM »
Of course it must be because she is a black woman and not because she's an admin who has some fucked up takes on violence against the elderly and infants

Quote from: John Dunbar
Quote from: Bdumbs
Members aren't expected to make public mea culpas whenever they make a mistake, so that cuts both ways. Taking responsibility like Nepenthe did is exactly what she should be doing. Menchi accepted the apology and the thread has moved on.
members aren't expected to do that since they're banned on the spot.

 :neogaf :rejoice :sicko :popcorn :hesright

I love how B-dubs presents it as some kind of burden that moderators should apologize

There must be some universal law that makes it so that mods in any community take their unpaid, volunteer roles as some "burden" that all users should bow in appreciation of. Yeah, so you can ban people and close threads on a forum. Fucking amazing! We users must bow in your presence and suck you off no matter what!
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« Reply #43471 on: June 06, 2021, 04:05:18 PM »
It's amazing how they managed to make that thread about the N-word even though the attacker was Spanish and the victim was white and neither of them used the N-word.

Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43472 on: June 06, 2021, 04:21:16 PM »
Of course it must be because she is a black woman and not because she's an admin who has some fucked up takes on violence against the elderly and infants

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Members aren't expected to make public mea culpas whenever they make a mistake, so that cuts both ways. Taking responsibility like Nepenthe did is exactly what she should be doing. Menchi accepted the apology and the thread has moved on.
members aren't expected to do that since they're banned on the spot.

 :neogaf :rejoice :sicko :popcorn :hesright

I love how B-dubs presents it as some kind of burden that moderators should apologize

There must be some universal law that makes it so that mods in any community take their unpaid, volunteer roles as some "burden" that all users should bow in appreciation of. Yeah, so you can ban people and close threads on a forum. Fucking amazing! We users must bow in your presence and suck you off no mater what!

Unfortunately they have a steady stream of sycophants flinging themselves at the chance to suck:
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It's also true that the staff members put far more work into keeping this place running than any average user. I feel that as long as they own up to their mistakes there's no issue. Banning them won't achieve anything other than putting more work on the rest of the mod team.

There can't be consequences for mod violations, it'd be an unfair burden to all the other mods!

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43473 on: June 06, 2021, 04:40:15 PM »
lol, mods aren't doing shit. The report buttons and Discord screeching do all the work for them.

Nepenthe is just an ass clown.
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Lonewulfeus

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43474 on: June 06, 2021, 04:47:39 PM »
Resetera mods are too big to fail :salute

Potato

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43475 on: June 06, 2021, 06:35:31 PM »
Of course it must be because she is a black woman and not because she's an admin who has some fucked up takes on violence against the elderly and infants

Quote from: John Dunbar
Quote from: Bdumbs
Members aren't expected to make public mea culpas whenever they make a mistake, so that cuts both ways. Taking responsibility like Nepenthe did is exactly what she should be doing. Menchi accepted the apology and the thread has moved on.
members aren't expected to do that since they're banned on the spot.

 :neogaf :rejoice :sicko :popcorn :hesright

I love how B-dubs presents it as some kind of burden that moderators should apologize

There must be some universal law that makes it so that mods in any community take their unpaid, volunteer roles as some "burden" that all users should bow in appreciation of. Yeah, so you can ban people and close threads on a forum. Fucking amazing! We users must bow in your presence and suck you off no matter what!
It's because the only people who are willing to mod message boards are those who were the kind of fuckwits that would remind the teacher that they forgot to set homework.

They are also usually the kind of people who actually form their online personas to be noticed by other mods in the hope they are invited to join the little circle jerk of modship.
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HaughtyFrank

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43476 on: June 06, 2021, 07:04:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/walmart-customer-spits-and-rams-his-shopping-cart-at-employee%E2%80%A6-gets.437687/

Instantly locked which they usually never do. Probably worried that Nepenthe might say something again :lol

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43477 on: June 06, 2021, 07:06:46 PM »
It's because the only people who are willing to mod message boards are those who were the kind of fuckwits that would remind the teacher that they forgot to set homework.

They are also usually the kind of people who actually form their online personas to be noticed by other mods in the hope they are invited to join the little circle jerk of modship.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43478 on: June 06, 2021, 07:19:07 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/walmart-customer-spits-and-rams-his-shopping-cart-at-employee%E2%80%A6-gets.437687/

Instantly locked which they usually never do. Probably worried that Nepenthe might say something again :lol

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“Costumer is always right” is one o the biggest lies in this country.

agreed  :nepenthe
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43479 on: June 06, 2021, 07:57:13 PM »
"We really don't need a thread for every random bad thing that happens"

DISENGENOUS

Re is world star for white guilt. What the fuck you gonna post about if some fat old Karen ain't getting sucker punched????
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43480 on: June 06, 2021, 08:19:02 PM »
Doesn't Ree see the irony that it's because of the capitalist system they're able to spend their days posting endless nonsense and living in fantasy land


https://www.resetera.com/threads/with-everything-going-on-in-the-world-what-stops-you-from-turning-socialist-marxist-what-still-makes-you-cling-to-capitalism.437681/


clothedmacuser

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43481 on: June 06, 2021, 08:20:36 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-culture-news-north-carolina-county-bans-coca-cola-machines-after-company-criticizes-georgia-voting-law.437588/

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Officials in Surry County, North Carolina, voted to remove Coca-Cola machines from all government facilities in response to the beverage company CEO's remarks about Georgia's controversial new voting law.

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Actually breaking the first amendment to own the libs.
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Is that even legal? Sounds unconstitutional. Political retribution…
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no doubt since it is due to them actually stating they removed the machines for speech purposes, not for financial purposes
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Its not legal.
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cant wait this is a open and shut case of goverment retalating based on speach, even fedsoc judges are guna have no choice but to rule in their favor






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The irony with this is strong.

Right wingers and cancel culture ey



When they do it:  Haha, look at them cancel canceling it
When our side does it: Cancel culture doesn't even exist.  RedMecury told me so like 500 times.

I think this is known as double-think
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benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43482 on: June 06, 2021, 08:52:29 PM »
Noooo, not my Constitutional Right™ to have an Ice Cold Coca-Cola™ while in any state or local government building!

 :noooo

Hap Shaughnessy

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43483 on: June 06, 2021, 09:12:40 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fascism-will-be-normalized-wapo-calls-the-trump-assault-on-the-2020-voting-ballots-audits.437732/#post-66651560
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    If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the media in this country is absolute fucking trash.
Trump shitting on them did them such a huge favor as it made people less critical of the press and how they've completely abdicated their responsibilities.

What?
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clothedmacuser

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43484 on: June 06, 2021, 09:36:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fascism-will-be-normalized-wapo-calls-the-trump-assault-on-the-2020-voting-ballots-audits.437732/


From the actual article https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pennsylvania-2020-ballot-audits/2021/06/06/4e456952-bfe0-11eb-b26e-53663e6be6ff_story.html

The previously unreported lobbying foreshadowed a playbook now in use in Arizona and increasingly being sought in other communities across the country as Trump supporters clamor for reviews of the ballots cast last fall, citing false claims that the vote was corrupted by fraud.

The audits are being pushed by a loose affiliation of GOP lawmakers, lawyers and self-described election experts, backed by private fundraising campaigns whose donors are unknown.

Wake TSI submitted a draft report in February to Fulton officials declaring the election had been “well run” and “conducted in a diligent and effective manner,” county documents show.

The early attempt to launch off-the-books audits in Pennsylvania counties shows the relentlessness of the campaign by Trump’s allies to overturn the election — an assault that began before the polls closed and has only expanded in the months since a pro-Trump mob attacked the U.S. Capitol, trying to prevent Biden’s win from being formalized.

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows was pressuring the Justice Department to investigate unfounded claims about vulnerabilities

 Biden closed Trump’s lead and then pulled ahead — a phenomenon that political experts had predicted would occur.

The judge rejected the suit, comparing the legal theories stitched together by Trump’s campaign to “Frankenstein’s monster.” On appeal, a three-judge panel — all of them appointed by Republicans — also rejected the challenge to Pennsylvania’s vote. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so,”

Jean Foschi, the county’s Democratic commissioner, said in an interview that she was confused and dismayed by the request, particularly because the state already conducted formal routine election reviews.

“It was like this rogue thing,” she said. “Those election machines are state and federally certified. Why would we let a private company come in and mess around with them?”

“I can’t speak for other counties, but it sure as hell didn’t happen in Cumberland County.”

They said they believed Fulton’s elections were secure and well administered.

“If there were no discrepancies, what is the reason for auditing the mail-in ballots?

“It just seemed to me, why are they auditing it, when they overwhelmingly certified it?”

 Trump’s attacks on the integrity of the election were on stark display.  supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol . . Late that night, after the marauders were cleared from the building,

 report concluded that the county had “no anomalous or unusual incidents reported during the election process” and that the election was “well run, followed all Commonwealth and Federal guidelines, and was conducted in a diligent and effective manner.”

Dominion Voting Systems, an election machine company that has been the target of unfounded conspiracy theories by Trump’s supporters since November.

“It’s not right for anyone to be questioning the legitimacy of the election without any kind of evidence — or even evidence to the contrary.”

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Obviously you can tell that Excel didn't bother reading the article as it uses plenty of language describing Trump's idea as dumb and casting his supports as idiots.  But I can also tell you that it's the first time she even semi-attempted at informing herself about the news.  Since Friday I'm read at least 25 articles by a wide sampling of news papers and online liberal blogs and they all use the word audit.  She's read one headline and thinks she has a point to make.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43485 on: June 06, 2021, 09:36:17 PM »
It's because the only people who are willing to mod message boards are those who were the kind of fuckwits that would remind the teacher that they forgot to set homework.

They are also usually the kind of people who actually form their online personas to be noticed by other mods in the hope they are invited to join the little circle jerk of modship.

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We have mods?
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clothedmacuser

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43486 on: June 06, 2021, 09:42:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fascism-will-be-normalized-wapo-calls-the-trump-assault-on-the-2020-voting-ballots-audits.437732/#post-66651560
Quote from: excelsiorlef
Quote from:  Post Reply
    If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the media in this country is absolute fucking trash.
Trump shitting on them did them such a huge favor as it made people less critical of the press and how they've completely abdicated their responsibilities.

What?

LOL,  :lol

She admitted she didn't even read it.
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benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43487 on: June 06, 2021, 09:49:25 PM »
Why is an Open Canadian commenting on American politics? I thought that kind of thing was banned on ResetERA.com?

benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43488 on: June 06, 2021, 09:49:53 PM »
Also, yikes, Steve Youngblood risking his account like that going up against incelsiorlef.

edit: Double yikes, now Kinthey's involved.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2021, 09:57:52 PM by benjipwns »

Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43489 on: June 06, 2021, 09:53:55 PM »
Why is Incelsior so aggressively dumb? Why the fuck they keep making threads from hot takes on twitter when people when is clear twitter is dumb?  Call it them audits is not normalizing shit, you are not a 3 year old to be this dumb.

benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43490 on: June 06, 2021, 09:56:42 PM »
Notice that she doesn't herself say what the "audits" should be called.

Potato

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43491 on: June 06, 2021, 10:04:10 PM »
Doesn't Ree see the irony that it's because of the capitalist system they're able to spend their days posting endless nonsense and living in fantasy land


https://www.resetera.com/threads/with-everything-going-on-in-the-world-what-stops-you-from-turning-socialist-marxist-what-still-makes-you-cling-to-capitalism.437681/
Unsurprisingly, it might have something to do with the fact that every single Marxist government has failed in bringing about communism and only succeeded in creating totalitarian dictatorships which benefitted the few over the many. Pretty much just like capitalism when you think about it, but with less freedom, choice and democracy. But I guess that lines up with Resetera's preferences anyway.
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Potato

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43492 on: June 06, 2021, 10:08:01 PM »
Noooo, not my Constitutional Right™ to have an Ice Cold Coca-Cola™ while in any state or local government building!

 :noooo
We removed Coca Cola vending machines from public hospitals because Coca Cola is bad for you. Only the weirdos cared, so about a dozen of them.

Meanwhile, in the US...
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Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43493 on: June 06, 2021, 10:14:43 PM »
Quote from: Youngblood
  Right but this isn’t a “both sides” article. While they may not be called “fraudits” in the article, there is nothing in here that paints them as legitimate. You will not walk away thinking “I think that mastriano fellow had righteous concerns here.” We aren’t children. We can understand the context and ascertain that these are being painted in a negative light and the article dives into great detail about what happens.

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  We already know they are a fraud though, I agree we already get that. I'm concerned with Joe and Jane Centrist or John Q. Fencesitter. You can say we aren't children but half the country voted for a fascist, millions watch Fox News, millions just have little investment in politics altogether, think of how many people buy into the Q type stuff- I can't get onboard with a general we're not children take

You are not the same fucker that said “Nepenthe totally was expressing about how we should consider the morally grey area of Amazon driver punching old people behind their backs”.

Quote from: Incelsior
A lot of people do though, arguably more need it to be explicit than would be fine with implicit. Like we need explicit reporting now more than ever.

Ay, go fuck yourself .

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43494 on: June 06, 2021, 10:16:42 PM »
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And reporting shouldn't be soft and passive.

This is exactly how the US mainstream media managed to get itself into such a shitty partisan mess. Giving in to dickheads like incel who demand that everything be biased to their particular political opinion/fetish.

Some unbiased and passive reporting of facts would do the world a great deal of good. But Twatter wouldn't be happy and either would dreadfully online grocery baggers.
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« Reply #43495 on: June 06, 2021, 10:19:43 PM »
Is not even “both sides” article, is just using a term that Incel and Twitter find “problematic”. Háganme el pinche favor, oh Dios, estamos jodidos  como especie.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43496 on: June 06, 2021, 10:23:16 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bedbug-times-once-a-bastion-of-free-speech-the-a-c-l-u-faces-an-identity-crisis.437717/

Guess who is the OP and the three first posters.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43497 on: June 06, 2021, 10:23:20 PM »
Doesn't Ree see the irony that it's because of the capitalist system they're able to spend their days posting endless nonsense and living in fantasy land


https://www.resetera.com/threads/with-everything-going-on-in-the-world-what-stops-you-from-turning-socialist-marxist-what-still-makes-you-cling-to-capitalism.437681/
Unsurprisingly, it might have something to do with the fact that every single Marxist government has failed in bringing about communism and only succeeded in creating totalitarian dictatorships which benefitted the few over the many. Pretty much just like capitalism when you think about it, but with less freedom, choice and democracy. But I guess that lines up with Resetera's preferences anyway.

Too much freedom can be dangerous, like making your own choices, and reading books.  They just want someone who will tell them what to do.

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  Right but this isn’t a “both sides” article. While they may not be called “fraudits” in the article, there is nothing in here that paints them as legitimate. You will not walk away thinking “I think that mastriano fellow had righteous concerns here.” We aren’t children. We can understand the context and ascertain that these are being painted in a negative light and the article dives into great detail about what happens.

Quote from: RedMercury
  We already know they are a fraud though, I agree we already get that. I'm concerned with Joe and Jane Centrist or John Q. Fencesitter. You can say we aren't children but half the country voted for a fascist, millions watch Fox News, millions just have little investment in politics altogether, think of how many people buy into the Q type stuff- I can't get onboard with a general we're not children take



Quote from: Incelsior
A lot of people do though, arguably more need it to be explicit than would be fine with implicit. Like we need explicit reporting now more than ever.



And tell them what to think.

Edit: and what you are allowed to say.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2021, 10:44:33 PM by clothedmacuser »
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Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43498 on: June 06, 2021, 10:25:43 PM »
Quote from: Incelsior
very least this is another case of an article undermined by a weak headline.... and I'm sorry but the constant referencing to them as audits is passively giving into the framing of the Republicans, no matter how well researched or critical your article might be otherwise.


And like not to play I'm not alone, but reactions to the article are pointing out the absurdity of referring to them as audits... it's not like I'm making up this response to the article myself. 

Motherfucker stop listening to twitter and your dumbass leftist distinguished mentally-challenged fellows college drop outs.

benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #43499 on: June 06, 2021, 10:26:19 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bedbug-times-once-a-bastion-of-free-speech-the-a-c-l-u-faces-an-identity-crisis.437717/
Quote from: Nepenthe
There is no worth in sticking to a principle if doing so leads to unjust outcomes or lost lives, at least if the ACLU cares about advancing racial and LGBTQA justice. The article has a point that privileged groups benefit more from qualities of their country's laws than underprivileged groups do; like the Second Amendment, the First is no different in that regard, and thus there is a question about if the harm that being blind to these disparities does to society and the org's reputation when they proceed to step in on behalf of the powerful is worth it or not.

Now, if they don't care about progressive causes, and literally and all they care about is making sure the government doesn't infringe on the First Amendment, then be that organization. But they can't then suddenly feel some type of way when another Charlottesville inevitably happens again due to their work and blessing. I certainly won't be calling on them.
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