Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[nachobro]

remember when he got banned for a week, said "I don't know if I even want to go back to that place" on twitter, and then posted as soon as his ban was lifted and deleted the tweet

i didn't know that happened but lol of course

[Straight Edge]

I posted a link to that thread on the last page and only got 1 shitty like from D3RANG3D.

 

[VomKriege]

remember when he got banned for a week, said "I don't know if I even want to go back to that place" on twitter, and then posted as soon as his ban was lifted and deleted the tweet

The ban deflowering is always the worst. After that you can take them like a champion.

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30837329

[Akala]

WE NEED TO HAVE A TALK ABOUT 

[Clockwork5]

The “We need to talk about how we...” threads are always fun. The entire premise is that in their quest to craft a pristinely protective and inclusive TOS, the admins have crafted a curse. In short order they have created a dogmatic clusterfuck of competing tribes all competing for their chance to be able to express themselves, largely free of moderation, while shutting down anyone outside of their tribe.

We need to talk about sexual assault victims? This has nothing to do with sexual assault victims.

Shortly after their summit, BCT didn’t like how the lefties were making fun of Uncle Joe and unsurprisingly, dissing Biden became a bananable offense. By extension “downplaying rape” no longer became a bananable offense with respect to Biden.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-drops-out-of-presidential-race.181037/page-49#post-30837461

User warned: trolling

reposting for relevance

Actively antagonizing other people when you should be trying to get them on your side. What is your plan here, exactly?

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/

David Bowie?

yes

Summoning Morrigan in 3...2....1....

[BisMarckie]

Why wasn’t the thread title changed to: Benjipwns. Ugh. ?

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30838343

 

And if this nabs me a ban for "minimizing sexual assault" y'all have really lost the damn plot.

Reports go BRRRRRR ahah

[VomKriege]

Congrats on shitting up this thread with your rape apologia you turd.

 

This will end well. With bans.

[Lonewulfeus]

Did those 7 women accuse him of sexual assault or rape, or are you willfully minimizing their accounts into Reade's?

Midnight Jon will not have slights against Yassss queen king.

[VomKriege]

And if this nabs me a ban for "minimizing sexual assault" y'all have really lost the damn plot.

Let me ask you this: When you say "y'all", you are referring to yourself as part of an outgroup. You seem to not see yourself as part of the forum, or at least the majority of it. I guess I would ask what group do you see yourself as a part of, and when you say "y'all" what group are you referring to that others are a part of?

RedMercury, Therapist

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30839111

[HaughtyFrank]

And if this nabs me a ban for "minimizing sexual assault" y'all have really lost the damn plot.

Let me ask you this: When you say "y'all", you are referring to yourself as part of an outgroup. You seem to not see yourself as part of the forum, or at least the majority of it. I guess I would ask what group do you see yourself as a part of, and when you say "y'all" what group are you referring to that others are a part of?

RedMercury, Therapist

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30839111

How can he be mad about him using "ya'll" when he engages the the discussion on such a detached level he might as well be a robot

[VomKriege]

The problem with this is it creates room for bad-faith posters to stake out a position in pursuit of an ulterior motive and use categorical rules like that to spread bad faith posting with impunity, because anyone who tries to get a word in edgewise gets banned. Context counts, posting history counts, and concern for a delicate issue counts.

There's a space between bad faith JAQing regarding sexual assault, which absolutely should not be tolerated, and having a good faith discussion on the broader context of an accusation with proper concern for trauma victims.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30839213

[HaughtyFrank]

I don't see myself as part of this forum because ETC has demonstrated it doesn't want people of my ideological bent in there and will stop at nothing to brand me as something I'm clearly fucking not.

I'm just going to say this right now. You are making this thread unsafe for victims of sexual assault and rape.

What does "safe" even mean? 

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30839249

A mod appears !
It uses Preemptive Damage Control !
It's irrelevant.

 

[Lonewulfeus]

I don't see myself as part of this forum because ETC has demonstrated it doesn't want people of my ideological bent in there and will stop at nothing to brand me as something I'm clearly fucking not.

You can join kirblar on r/Neoliberal

[VomKriege]

I'm just going to say this right now. You are making this thread unsafe for victims of sexual assault and rape.

I'm not sure what your point is here, are you trying to silence any form of dissent by saying it makes you feel unsafe?

No.

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Yes.

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[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30839249

A mod appears !
It uses Preemptive Damage Control !
It's irrelevant.

 

just know that you are not the sole or premier arbiter of what "believe women" means on Era, nor are you the designated hall monitor on this issue. People are ignoring you because of your sustained hall-monitor campaign and surprise litmus tests

yeah, that's the protected users job

[VomKriege]

I'm just going to say this right now. You are making this thread unsafe for victims of sexual assault and rape.

I'm not sure what your point is here, are you trying to silence any form of dissent by saying it makes you feel unsafe?

No.

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Yes.

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30839624

I'm not sure what your point is here, are you trying to silence any form of dissent by saying it makes you feel unsafe?

Are you trying to establish your right to be an absolute ass by saying the alternative is stifling free speech?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30839783

[VomKriege]

Jon is a sexual assault victim. Why is his pain irrelevant compared to yours?

Why are Bidens accusers and the pain they've gone through more irrelevant than Jon's?

ERA's Kobayashi Maru. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30839855

[Straight Edge]

You are literally casting doubt on Reade's testimony. Repeatedly.

The Staff here at ERA have stated that it is okay to have a position of 'Waiting for it to play out'

Thank God the staff approved those thoughts!

[VomKriege]

It feels there is a massive minimizing of the countless woman and children being raped in ICE camps by the guards under the willing allowances of the Trump administration. Is Biden going to continue the industrialized rape concentration camps because if he isn’t then this is that moral quandary of 1000s possibility 10s of thousands being raped under permission of the trump govt and voting for accused rapist Biden who won’t continue the camps. That doesn’t minimize anything Biden does but it does offer perspective

Wow holy shit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30840044

[Straight Edge]

Literal Rape Camps

 

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30840218

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30840404

Fireworks like it's the 4th of July.

[VomKriege]

I can't speak to Staff decisions seeing as there is no feedback thread. Much to my chagrin.

Our feedback team has been on it 27h a day for the last 52 weeks, thank you for pointing that to us !

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30840536

[HaughtyFrank]

I'm just going to say this right now. You are making this thread unsafe for victims of sexual assault and rape.

Jon is a sexual assault victim. Why is his pain irrelevant compared to yours?

Why are Bidens accusers and the pain they've gone through more irrelevant than Jon's?

Victims being played like yu-gi-oh cards. Maybe it's the argument that should matter the most?

[Ghoul]

Audio Boxer always makes me laugh, when the whole muslim rape gangs thing happened in the UK every bit of news about them he'd post a thread.

I was surprised to see he hasn't got got over being Islamophobic but here we are. Here he is again going off about rape.

Beefy should also chime in, seeing how he was once accused of rape but didn't catch a charge...

[EchoRin]

What you are saying is they need to have a talk about having talks.

[Ghoul]

RAPE SUMMIT NOW!!!! NO JOE NOT THAT KIND, GO HOME!

[VomKriege]

Audio Boxer always makes me laugh, when the whole muslim rape gangs thing happened in the UK every bit of news about them he'd post a thread.

I was surprised to see he hasn't got got over being Islamophobic but here we are. Here he is again going off about rape.

Beefy should also chime in, seeing how he was once accused of rape but didn't catch a charge...

He was permed for several months. Unless I missed it, his reinstatement is only recent.

[Lonewulfeus]

You are literally casting doubt on Reade's testimony. Repeatedly.

The Staff here at ERA have stated that it is okay to have a position of 'Waiting for it to play out'

Thank God the staff approved those thoughts!

It’s amazing that more people don’t bring up the ludicrous hypocrisy there.  Was there a “let’s see how it plays out” time for Jussie Smollet’s assault claims?  Or Amber Heard’s? How about the dozens of women who came forward against Trump, or Weinstein?  Biden is on their team so gotta play this one tactically.

[Ghoul]

Audio Boxer always makes me laugh, when the whole muslim rape gangs thing happened in the UK every bit of news about them he'd post a thread.

I was surprised to see he hasn't got got over being Islamophobic but here we are. Here he is again going off about rape.

Beefy should also chime in, seeing how he was once accused of rape but didn't catch a charge...

He was permed for several months. Unless I missed it, his reinstatement is only recent.

I thought he was as well. Why does a perm now mean a few months? What summit did he get back under?

Never forget how KetKat started this perm reversing bollocks fucking dickhead. Now they just lurk and don't support the communities they got unbanned to protect

[Potato]

Thinking a President with dementia is concerning = able-ism?

That's pretty wild there Resetera admins.

Why don't you ask that question over at REEEsetera and tell us how it works out for you? Or you could always PM a mod...

[VomKriege]

I don't know if his account was restored (I doubt it, IIRC he asked for the nuke, maybe he wasn't permed per se) or if he was allowed to create a new one. Audioboxer is OK, he was a good sport coming here to say hi. Old forum habits die hard...

[Ghoul]

Yeah I have no real issue with him, I liked the interview he did here like he was a war survivor lmao.

[VomKriege]

A while ago I saw a comment from Bish who said in regards to concerns from the black community (paraphrased) “the level and severity of moderating needed to keep Era a welcoming place is high, and the staff here doesn’t seem to have the nerve to do what it would really take.”

Besada also said something about Café au Lait Hate Machine.
Not sure you want to take the advice of an arsonist to stop a fire tho.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30841829

[VomKriege]

It's really fucked up that people feel like they have to bring up their own past trauma to be justified in their stances on either side of the issue.

Yes. Yes it is. And that's quite literally been fostered by ERA itself.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30841976

[Averon]

Audio Boxer always makes me laugh, when the whole muslim rape gangs thing happened in the UK every bit of news about them he'd post a thread.

I was surprised to see he hasn't got got over being Islamophobic but here we are. Here he is again going off about rape.

Beefy should also chime in, seeing how he was once accused of rape but didn't catch a charge...

He was permed for several months. Unless I missed it, his reinstatement is only recent.

I thought he was as well. Why does a perm now mean a few months? What summit did he get back under?

Never forget how KetKat started this perm reversing bollocks fucking dickhead. Now they just lurk and don't support the communities they got unbanned to protect

You know what this means, right? Kirblar has a chance for a glorious return by election night
His banishment to r/Neoliberal is merely temporary.

[HaughtyFrank]

Audio Boxer always makes me laugh, when the whole muslim rape gangs thing happened in the UK every bit of news about them he'd post a thread.

I was surprised to see he hasn't got got over being Islamophobic but here we are. Here he is again going off about rape.

Beefy should also chime in, seeing how he was once accused of rape but didn't catch a charge...

He was permed for several months. Unless I missed it, his reinstatement is only recent.

I thought he was as well. Why does a perm now mean a few months? What summit did he get back under?

Never forget how KetKat started this perm reversing bollocks fucking dickhead. Now they just lurk and don't support the communities they got unbanned to protect

Audioboxer wasn't permabanned.  After he caught a ban he decided to have his account deleted. He even showed up in an old iteration of this thread

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=46206.msg2644625#msg2644625

[VomKriege]

I did once report Kirblar for PMing me saying the mistakes of the Iraq War were comparable to the mistakes of Era redesigning their forum layout

I forgot. 

[Ghoul]

Click the link and who do I see talking shit? Kirblar lmao. Thanks for info though, it was ages ago and I couldn't remember all the facts.

[Averon]

I'm not sure threats/fantasty of physical violence is going to do anything to elevate the discourse level for this subject/forum.

Is this a new rule? Fantasy violence has been a staple in there since before the GAf implosion.

[Ghoul]

Anyone seen Pogi post recently?  I think co-careposting finally killed him.

I'm not sure threats/fantasty of physical violence is going to do anything to elevate the discourse level for this subject/forum.

Is this a new rule? Fantasy violence has been a staple in there since before the GAf implosion.

When Total Biscuit died the rule was there and ignored

[HaughtyFrank]

Click the link and who do I see talking shit? Kirblar lmao. Thanks for info though, it was ages ago and I couldn't remember all the facts.

Shittalking Kirblar is the one constant of this multiverse

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/page-2#post-30833186

My question is - If you're being antagonized about this shit, why are ban durations even pending?

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If you say you've been sexually assaulted and will not vote for Joe Biden and someone says "thanks for 4 more years of trump," that should get the perma.

Also - Not even a staff post in that bernie thread.

this is what I was told about that, hopefully it's alright to share

Looks like some bureaucratic bullshit right there.

A while ago I saw a comment from Bish who said in regards to concerns from the black community (paraphrased) “the level and severity of moderating needed to keep Era a welcoming place is high, and the staff here doesn’t seem to have the nerve to do what it would really take.”

I think this remains true with most of these issues. Funneling long term bans through a small group of people seems like a great way for the system to fail.

To be fair to the mod team here.

1) Moderation is hard.
2) We were far quicker on the draw at the old place wound up being called out by the userbase for an unjustly hard hand and got a subreddit dedicated to doxxing us from the far right for our troubles. The policy back then was to throw it in slack, get a consensus of whoever was online right then, take action and let the admins undo/lessen the ban if needed.

Funny that they perm'd me when I posted a mod response on here. 

[Ghoul]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/page-2#post-30833186

My question is - If you're being antagonized about this shit, why are ban durations even pending?

(Image removed from quote.)

If you say you've been sexually assaulted and will not vote for Joe Biden and someone says "thanks for 4 more years of trump," that should get the perma.

Also - Not even a staff post in that bernie thread.

this is what I was told about that, hopefully it's alright to share

(Image removed from quote.)

Looks like some bureaucratic bullshit right there.

A while ago I saw a comment from Bish who said in regards to concerns from the black community (paraphrased) “the level and severity of moderating needed to keep Era a welcoming place is high, and the staff here doesn’t seem to have the nerve to do what it would really take.”

I think this remains true with most of these issues. Funneling long term bans through a small group of people seems like a great way for the system to fail.

To be fair to the mod team here.

1) Moderation is hard.
2) We were far quicker on the draw at the old place wound up being called out by the userbase for an unjustly hard hand and got a subreddit dedicated to doxxing us from the far right for our troubles. The policy back then was to throw it in slack, get a consensus of whoever was online right then, take action and let the admins undo/lessen the ban if needed.

Funny that they perm'd me when I posted a mod response on here. 

people are literally being raped right here and now in 2020 and you're worried about an unjust ban 

[bork]

people are literally being raped right here and now in 2020 and you're worried about an unjust ban 

Still waiting for them to get back to me on that- they must still be deliberating about it.  Incredible levels of dedication!  Should be any day now!

[VomKriege]

people are literally being raped right here and now in 2020 and you're worried about an unjust ban 

Still waiting for them to get back to me on that- they must still be deliberating about it.  Incredible levels of dedication!  Should be any day now!

1) Moderation is hard.

[clothedmacuser]

It's really fucked up that people feel like they have to bring up their own past trauma to be justified in their stances on either side of the issue.

Yes. Yes it is. And that's quite literally been fostered by ERA itself.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30841976

 

It was never an issue when it benefited them. Suddenly it's a problem.  Morals are only worthy when they are a benefit to oneself.  The RedMercury principle.

[Ghoul]

people are literally being raped right here and now in 2020 and you're worried about an unjust ban 

Still waiting for them to get back to me on that- they must still be deliberating about it.  Incredible levels of dedication!  Should be any day now!

I will sign the change.org for you.

[VomKriege]

Ugh, suprise litmus tests are the worst.

[Ghoul]

Funny how every election republicans are known pieces of shit, but any democrat with a past is under scrutiny as if they're the good guys.

Identity politics gonna fuck y'all again. I especially love that resetera and twitter are small hubs of a national thought process and when they get found out they're in a small bubble

When Trump wins again they're react just as bad, rest up kids you're gonna be fucking tired by november.

PS

HAHA GLENDA, close your eyes nicca, Bernie was can still win in your dreams nicca

[VomKriege]

One community I used to read often and sometimes posted in had this exchange recently:

User 1: "Reminder that Biden has an extremely credible rape allegation against him."

User 2, in response: "Honey, I thought I heard someone tripping over themselves."

User 2 has an avatar that indicates their political alignment with Biden and Biden's supporters.

Name names you coward !

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Adam182 or Autodidact ?

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-30339269

Autodidact.

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30844901

[clothedmacuser]

That thread is just people throwing down all their cards to have the most authority and the people on the sidelines are just now saying how it's not fair.  It's not my fault I was never sexually assaulted and therefore I can't have an opinion on the issue.

It's really fucked up that people feel like they have to bring up their own past trauma to be justified in their stances on either side of the issue.

As a victim myself it's always immensely complicated whether you read something as an experience of sexual assault.

As someone who has experiences with sexual assault myself, I'm not gunna accept being chastised in this way.

I am a sexual abuse victim.

I didn't talk about my own personal trauma because I didn't want to turn this into "my trauma is worse than your trauma"

One community I used to read often and sometimes posted in had this exchange recently:

User 1: "Reminder that Biden has an extremely credible rape allegation against him."

User 2, in response: "Honey, I thought I heard someone tripping over themselves."

User 2 has an avatar that indicates their political alignment with Biden and Biden's supporters. That user continues to post frequently with no action against them.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30844901


Someone on another forum wasn't banned when Grizz wanted him to be!

[Ghoul]

fucking hell who was the one that got wheeled out every single THQ Thread as they had a child sex video on 8chan?

Get fucked the lot of you it's either all okay or none of it is okay.

[Lonewulfeus]

That thread is just people throwing down all their cards to have the most authority and the people on the sidelines are just now saying how it's not fair.  It's not my fault I was never sexually assaulted and therefore I can't have an opinion on the issue.

It's really fucked up that people feel like they have to bring up their own past trauma to be justified in their stances on either side of the issue.

As a victim myself it's always immensely complicated whether you read something as an experience of sexual assault.

As someone who has experiences with sexual assault myself, I'm not gunna accept being chastised in this way.

I am a sexual abuse victim.

I didn't talk about my own personal trauma because I didn't want to turn this into "my trauma is worse than your trauma"

One community I used to read often and sometimes posted in had this exchange recently:

User 1: "Reminder that Biden has an extremely credible rape allegation against him."

User 2, in response: "Honey, I thought I heard someone tripping over themselves."

User 2 has an avatar that indicates their political alignment with Biden and Biden's supporters. That user continues to post frequently with no action against them.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-30844901


Someone on another forum wasn't banned when Grizz wanted him to be!

He’s talking about PoliEra I assume, probably autodidact.

Edit: he is.

Honey, I thought I heard someone tripping over themselves.

[clothedmacuser]

 






Thank god for Era "political" discussion during our global down time.
 

[Ghoul]