Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[Uncle]

It's over, period. White people lost their last ace, and that's the end of their ethnocentrist hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for white people. Whites have nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in white people. Except if they want to enjoy dairy products. Which will also be available for other races at some point.

The age of white people is done.

[ShutUp]

"Look at how defensive some of you are getting lmao"

Well, yeah, that tends to happen when accusations are made. The prominent members sure are getting defensive over 70+% of the vote being no in that poll. If they are so certain the poll is wrong, why get so defensive?

[ShutUp]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nascar-driver-drops-n-word-on-live-twitch-stream-update-suspended-indefinitely-personal-apology-issued.183780/post-31208895

Honestly, I think all white people use that word regularly around their other white friends only. Then that moment in the heat of the moment they blurt it out by 'mistake' every time.

I am black and I never use that word with, 'er' or 'a'. So when I get angry I never blurt it out by mistake. Why do all white people do it by mistake?

I know he is Japanese but I am sure the majority of his acquaintances or white.

 

"He's Japanese but I just know he hangs out with mostly white people, who are all racists that regularly use the n word"

I would hate so much to walk around on a daily basis with this train of thought as my default mindset.

[Uncle]

Shit is so true I need to sit down!!!


This was too much facts my guy!!! like holy shit!! better than I could even begin to type!

uh

[benjipwns]

All white people are racist.

There's not really any serious academic debate on this question, because it assumes that it's possible for someone to not be racist in any meaningful way. That's not real.

It's interesting to see how the term racism gets redefined in debates like this (including in this very thread). Liberals are all too happy to acknowledge the racism of others, but when it comes time to turn the mirror on themselves the stuttering and the backpedaling comes out in full force.

Racism is not just "intentional racism", whatever that means. It is any belief, unconscious or conscious, expressed or unexpressed, that race says something about someone's personality, their tendencies, their moral character, whatever.

We all have them, and white people are especially vulnerable to playing into them in insidious ways because a) white people have the least first-hand experience as victims of racism (except in the context of being a "victim" of being called out for being racist or having ancestors who were racists) and b) it's more comfortable for white people to believe that racism is a thing of the past.

I've seen a number of people say in this thread that calling unconscious biases that (seemingly) rarely manifest racism is diluting the meaning of the word. This argument assumes that there is a "safe" or "acceptable" amount of racism; there isn't. It's important to call it what it is so that we can remain vigilant about our own biases.

MLK Jr.'s quote on white moderates here is on point: Getting white people to realize that all of them are racist to some extent is going to be a big challenge. Why? Because it's an uncomfortable fact, and unlike minorities, when white people acknowledge their racism they are acknowledging that they are a part of something big, bad and powerful. It requires them to realize that they have benefited and continue to benefit from the privilege that their race affords them. It requires them to question how well they would have fared on a truly level playing field. It requires them to be critical about why they feel the way they do about certain people.

(For what it's worth, I'm white.)

You didn't need to tell us that last part, it was pretty clear.

[benjipwns]

How could you identify an unconscious unexpressed belief?

[benjipwns]

The only reason we keep having "conversations" is because white people don't want to implement the solutions that black and brown people have been giving you for centuries. In 400 years of "whiteness" being a concept, we have basically had to drag you all kicking and screaming towards some nebulous end of "anti-racism," and even when we achieve some measureable milestone, whether it be abolition, or civil rights, or putting body cameras on police, or having you all not dress in blackface for your winter parades, it is almost inevitably set back by the continuance of white supremacy in other forms and ways allowable by law, or by "white lashes" such as the election of fascist figures all throughout the world in the last few years.

Reparations, affirmative action, dismantling the police, waiving both personal and national debt (hey France, stop fucking over Haiti m'kay?), actually deplatforming the alt-right, recognizing the sovereignty of natives, taking down confederate iconography, just not fucking voting for right-wing parties. There's plenty of solutions to combat racism. Nothing I've said in this thread is new, just regurgitated thoughts from more daring trailblazers and writers packaged up for you all. Black and brown people have had the conversation, and given you the solutions.

So again, the question is when are you all going to do something about it? My honest guess is never, because you simply have no incentive to do so.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-dont-sports-networks-just-air-cpu-vs-cpu-matches-from-video-games.184461/

[ShutUp]

Liberals are all too happy to acknowledge the racism of others, but when it comes time to turn the mirror on themselves the stuttering and the backpedaling comes out in full force.

So, so close to independent thought, yet so far away by posting this on ERA.

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-dont-sports-networks-just-air-cpu-vs-cpu-matches-from-video-games.184461/

Saltybets on national TV, do it.

[ShutUp]

Keep wondering what their solution to crime would be with the dismantling of police. Do..do they think crime would disappear with no cops or something? 

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/no-butts-on-disney-plus.184473/post-31265718

About Disney using VFX to cover Daryl Hannah's ass in a decades old film* while seemingly having no issues with Wolverine or Thanos nude bottoms...

Hypocritical assholes...

The Disney executives should apply for moderation here, they would feel right at home. lol.

User Banned (1 Week): Mod whining

 

* I guess it's maybe some altered for family friendly TV master they uploaded and not necessarily something they did specifically for Disney+ ?

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/no-butts-on-disney-plus.184473/post-31274889

[benjipwns]

Keep wondering what their solution to crime would be with the dismantling of police. Do..do they think crime would disappear with no cops or something? 

You're confused, she may say "dismantling of the police" but she doesn't actually mean that at all as is clear by her demands. What she means is she wants race-based policing. Police of the proper racial makeup will be seizing property and silenci er... deplatforming those of the improper racial makeups. She just isn't smart enough to use words properly or avoid bad car loans.

[VomKriege]

I was the biggest WDW cynic until I actually visited last October with the kids+wife. Even after spending $8k on the visit, I will be very sad if COVID stops WDW from being the same as it was. When it reopens, I will be first in line to return.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nyt-bob-iger-thought-he-was-leaving-on-top-now-he%E2%80%99s-fighting-for-disney%E2%80%99s-life.183774/post-31222677

[benjipwns]

I'm real curious to see what the legal ramifications would be if Disney opens up their parks and people inevitably start dying of COVID-19 on their premises. Even if they somehow avoid lawsuits it's going to be terrible PR.

[benjipwns]

User banned (permanent): Hostility and xenophobia; account in junior phase

Discriminating against other people because of a virus that THEY caused... okay?

China is a terrible fucking place. I'm not surprised that a country with multiple human rights violations, mass censorship and current, ongoing ethnic cleansing is acting like this. Fuck China and anyone who supports or defends them.

[Joe Molotov]

I was the biggest WDW cynic until I actually visited last October with the kids+wife. Even after spending $8k on the visit, I will be very sad if COVID stops WDW from being the same as it was. When it reopens, I will be first in line to return.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nyt-bob-iger-thought-he-was-leaving-on-top-now-he%E2%80%99s-fighting-for-disney%E2%80%99s-life.183774/post-31222677

(For what it's worth, I'm white.)

[VomKriege]

Pixar moms all have big ol dump trucks so there’s definitely some mixed messaging going on here

I wanted to say it but I never did lol. Elastigirl in Incredibles 2 literally has the head of a white woman on the body of an African fertility goddess. I was sitting in the theater in disbelief.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/no-butts-on-disney-plus.184473/post-31277304

[VomKriege]

I wonder what kind of strategy the sophisticated poliwonks are discussing...

I believe in Karma, but Karma operates on its own timeline and justice for ill behavior doesn't always happen when we would like it to. (...) DEMs won the SC seat, that's great. But what's going to be the human cost? How many election day voters got infected with COVID-19 from this? How many will need to be hospitalized? How many will need to go on ventilators? How many will die?

Rough Karma for Demonrats.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31277568

[samir]

This thread shows that not all white people are racist, but those who get overly defensive about simply discussing it probably are.

This is often the go-to response whenever someone questions their nonsensical arguments.

I wonder why people might take offense to being called something they're not.

[VomKriege]

That poll keep drifting opposite the thread though. 

[remy]

Any first generation minority who says their family isn’t hella racist is a liar lmao

third gen still got those racists aunts and grand parents

I mean I only have one racist grandmother but it's not like she's going to be like hmm ah yes these chinese nationals have the same immigrant experience as me when she can't read english, she's just gonna yell i hate those chinezis and watch 60 minutes stories about MSG

[Snoopycat_]

Is there anything Ree loves more than jerking themselves off over how pure they are?

[Transhuman]

Having someone else jerk them off over how pure they are?

[Ghoul]

Yes 
No   
I'm not sure 
It's a very nuanced answer that is yes/no 

[Lonewulfeus]

I took that implicit bias test and it’s turns out I’m not racist hooray me!

[clothedmacuser]

My older brother recently finished his 20 years in the navy and got his pension.  Whenever he was sent to a foreign land and got back we would ask him how his time with the Saudis/Japanese/Cubans/Spanish/Russions; etc. was like.  His response was always the same.  "They are the most racist people in the world." It reminds me of this.

[Snoopycat_]

They must have done some bad shit in their past. Nobody spends their time overcompensating like that unless they've done some evil shit they can't get over.

[Momo]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-dont-sports-networks-just-air-cpu-vs-cpu-matches-from-video-games.184461/

Saltybets on national TV, do it.

always bet dbz

[VomKriege]

TheHunter decided to weigh in that racism debate... 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/post-31280898

[Momo]

This thread shows that not all white people are racist, but those who get overly defensive about simply discussing it probably are.

This is often the go-to response whenever someone questions their nonsensical arguments.

I wonder why people might take offense to being called something they're not.

[Momo]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/page-10#post-31283301

this gif is slaying me though

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nyt-bob-iger-thought-he-was-leaving-on-top-now-he%E2%80%99s-fighting-for-disney%E2%80%99s-life.183774/post-31288215

Username is very meta.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/

Strap in boys.

Poll results: Are all white people racist?

No - 71%

 

I like that the name of the Youtube channel is "Sensei Aishitemasu." 

[bork]

Did Nepenthe threadmark her own post with "Pretty amazing and thorough response"? 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/page-4#post-31268580

[Pissy F Benny]

 

[HaughtyFrank]

The Disney executives should apply for moderation here, they would feel right at home. lol.

User Banned (1 Week): Mod whining


Where was the lie though 

[thisismyusername]

Did Nepenthe threadmark her own post with "Pretty amazing and thorough response"? 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/page-4#post-31268580

Someone should link her killing white babies post in there and go "No, this isn't an 'amazing and thorough response.' You don't really have a pot to piss in when it comes to talking about racism."

[Nintex]

I thought you guys were taking the piss but there really is a thread called: "Are all white people racist"

 

[bork]

THE post:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/page-4#post-31268580

*(breathes in)*

*(breathes out)*

Alright kids, let's talk about how ideas spread. Marketing and advertising, propaganda, philosophy, whatever. Let's just start with this.

We can all acknowledge the fact that exposure to concepts will inevitably result in an individual being at least subconsciously aware of those concepts. Whether it's the fact that advertising is even a thing that, you know, works, the numerous stories of family members being lost to the Fox News or alt-right pipeline, the fast spread of memes, or even that "representation matters" because seeing folks on screen allows for the formation of even basic parasocial relationships which in turn fosters empathy for outgroups, I think you would be hard-pressed to argue against the fact that "continuous exposure to information makes a human being more susceptible to absorbing that information."

Now let's talk about demographic spread, or like, how folks kinda congregate and live with each other.

Taking data from the US Census Bureau from it's 2013-2017 American Community Survey, black and white segregation has... not actually moved all that much since the beginning of the century, with a dissimilarity index around 70 on average. White people, largely, keep to themselves, while black people do so as well but are seeing more integration with Hispanic/Latinx populations (howdy y'all). This is due to many factors regarding economics and business and culture and all that good shtuff I don't feel like talking about while I'm absolutely starving right now. But yeah, that's just another fact. White people largely still keep to themselves, and it really wouldn't be out of the question to call America segregated in all but law.

Okay. Do we agree on these two things as, like, facts? Advertising works, and America's population tends to cluster by race?

Good.

Alright.

NOW We can talk about racism.

Because racism is not just a conscious belief? It's like a spectrum of thoughts and behaviors, big ones and small ones, to varying degrees of consciousness where the outcome is inevitably a disdain or distrust of another race. And the sad fact is, America (and by extension Europe; you all started this mess) has done a bang-up job of putting out a shitload of propaganda both about the inferiority of black and brown people and the superiority of white people for centuries. The glossing over of native genocide as "manifest destiny," the fact that you all thought it was a good idea to allow confederates to rewrite history, the continuous hostility to black and brown protest, the awkward consumption of black and brown media that results in erasure, the outright conscious efforts to just outright write scientists, politicians, artists out of history, the fact that white people literally took one of the most inspiring Biblical figures from the Middle East and began to depict him as a white dude when... he couldn't have been white? The police in general..... Oh, Zwarte Piet; can't forget that! The Mounties committing genocide against the natives under Trudeau's watch.... Hell, Trudeau's blackface.

I mean, I literally don't think I have the character count to just go on about how much stuff, how much information, how much propaganda, has existed and continues to exist about how black and brown folks just ain't shit compared to white people.

But even if you're conscious of its existence and work to bat those nasty thoughts away... it doesn't mean the programming isn't working, hasn't already worked. If it takes seven viewings of an advertisement for you to remember a product, even subconsciously, you cannot dismiss centuries of cultural advertising. Especially when you are without the means to actively combat it. Because let's be honest, white people are fucking terrible at uprooting and getting rid of racism! And I can say that with confidence because in 400 years of undisputed rule in America the best you could do in 2016 is elect Donald Trump.... Donald Trump. You all chose to do that.

You largely don't live around black and brown people- the last Census says so- so the most exposure you get to us, if any, is through the media and forums like this one. But some tenuous viewings of Black Panther and readings of my posts can't compete with the fact that white people live and work around white people 24/7, who have been inundated across generations that they are the best, and it's an indoctrination that has been passively allowed to happen. Those pictures of white folks screaming at Civil Rights protestors, the lynchings, the concentration camps?

I mean, think about it. Those people were never arrested. Never punished. Never admonished. Most of them weren't even publicly named. They were allowed to go on and continue living their lives without having to confront the fact that they were, indeed, the baddies. It simply became something you couldn't talk about openly. You couldn't "tell it like it is." But that didn't mean they weren't spouting it around the house, on the job, at the dinner table. It didn't mean they weren't distrusting of the few black and brown folks they saw at the store, or on the corner, or on TV. That's why you still have shitty family members at holiday gatherings. Because there aren't any consequences for white supremacist thought, not really. There's always a place to go to stew in it to some degree, or to at least never confront it.

It's also why most people don't confront said shitty family members. It's not a big deal to you. The effects of white supremacy have worked on you too, and thus it's much more easier to let Uncle Bob spew his shit about the wall again than to actually take a meaningful dive into anti-racism. And even aggressive anti-racists like Tim Wise, those who come along once in a blue moon, still slip up once in awhile and let the message take over.

I say all this to say this: The thought that there is any white person on Earth where colonialism has touched that has not been susceptible to white supremacist thinking is laughable. The question is not "Are all white people racist?" The question should be "When are white people going to step up and actually work towards making a more equitable world?"

.... I'm going to go get food and pour one out for my mentions.

EDIT: Don't know how my post cut off. OH WELL.

[Transhuman]

"Anne Frank was racist. Wanna know how I know? The colour of her skin"

[Cauliflower Of Love]

*(breathes in)*

*(breathes out)*

[bork]

*(breathes in)*

*(breathes out)*

(Image removed from quote.)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/page-4#post-31268790

This is, without a doubt, the best post on Era I've ever read.

Holy fuck.

Hobbes
 

[nachobro]

ah yes, the resetti mod who is pro-killing white babies is also pro-government punishment for wrongthink. who could have seen that one coming?

[Hermit]

Hobbes just tryin to get his dick wet

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/page-4#post-31269153

White people don't get to decide if they've unlearned their racism.

Pat yourself on the back for this one whitie.

[Nintex]

That is THE BEST POST on Era but not in the way they think it is. 

Whenever slowtaku or some other blogger drops a RestetEra referral or source you can just take a screenshot of that post and use it as a reply.

[jorma]

all white people are racist, and all racists are white. ™

.

[nachobro]

now watch all those militant posters get triggered when the "are all men sexist?" thread is made as they stammer out "n-not me! i voted hillary!"

[VomKriege]

Prominent ERA : 

The other 85% : 

[Hermit]

thanks for showing me the light, era!!!

DONATING TO THE NAACP!!

[nachobro]

it's honestly the most perfect thread of all time. posing a question as ridiculous as "are all white people racist?" and then proclaiming anyone who doesn't answer the way you want is extra double racist is that forum's wet dream. they get to be right either way and also get to proclaim them getting owned by another poll is actually a major victory.

[nachobro]

speaking of posing things in a way that make you always "correct"...

This is fantastic news. Everyone who isn't a Trump supporter will be unified and behind Biden before the summer at this rate.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/barack-obama-to-endorse-joe-biden.184674/post-31294782

 

[SmokyDave]

All white people are racist.
Resetera is majority white.
Resetera is a racist site.

Eh, checks out as far as I can see. That’ll be why the caravans drove off with all the minorities in.

[bork]

now watch all those militant posters get triggered when the "are all men sexist?" thread is made as they stammer out "n-not me! i voted hillary!"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/page-4#post-31268733

And I don't know what to tell you. All I'm saying is that I've never believed women to be inferior to men, and I was absolutely not raised to believe that either. Not sure what else I can say. Yes, obviously social programming and mass media can and does have an effect on people (me included). I'm not going to admit to something I've never felt.

Just to be clear. Your claim is that you have never had a misogynistic thought?

Nope. Grew up with a dad who never really pushed me to do "masculine" things and never went to college and a mom who's a teacher and has 2 master's degrees. When the most powerful person in my personal life has always been a women, why the hell would I be prejudiced against them?

Can't say I haven't had misandrious thoughts before though.

[bork]

Wild to me that so many people on that dumb fucking website are so quick to roll over and say, “yeah I guess I AM a racist!”

But of course- a reeeee mod administrator told them this!  There is no greater or more intelligent authority figure out there.

[Straight Edge]

White people are just black people whose skin has adapted to absorb more sunlight. Everything is black people’s fault for migrating out of Africa.

[nachobro]

goddamnit bork of course they already beat me to the punch

[Propagandhim]

This thread is another example this is flying over your heads. Racism is never going to go away as you choose to literally do nothing with your privileges other than defend you're one of the good ones.

Pop quiz. When's the last you protested for minorities? Wrote or spoke about how to use your privileges for the marginalized? Helped change the hiring practices at your job? Or even stop your coworkers from saying some lowkey racist stuff? Daily? Sometimes? Never?

If we threw out the question when's the last time you specifically had Black or Brown people over for dinner, could you even answer? Better yet what about your family? I mean you mom, dad, or even grand parents???

Anyway *clap, clap* you all are one of the good ones.

And spare me with that I have a Black friend defense.

Black people don't want to eat my disgusting, unseasoned bullshit, though.