Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[Momo]

Imagine holding Kotaku in any regard much less high regard

[Ghoul]

those arent dolphins...

Year of the slowpoke, simpler times, could go outside.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-‘irresponsible’.185016/page-24#post-31505775

Won't someone think of your free speech over the comfort of other minority members on the site?

ironic considering the only reason you're still on this site.

Oh crikey.

 

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-‘irresponsible’.185016/page-24#post-31505775

Won't someone think of your free speech over the comfort of other minority members on the site?

ironic considering the only reason you're still on this site.

Oh crikey.

I don't think you understand a single thing about what happened with that, if you somehow think that's relevant. But sure, just continue to ignore everything relevant around you to keep whining

You really thought you got me there ?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31505961

[VomKriege]

You're been doing the persecuted member routine for a while now. Which is pretty funny, considering a fair few posters on the left side of the political spectrum got permabanned for talking about biased moderation here.

SUM-MIT
SUM-MIT
SUM-MIT
WE NEED SUMMIT NOW

 

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jason-schreier-is-leaving-kotaku.186132/post-31506642

 

[Switters]

Merc & Hobbes: Simp Crimes Unit

[HaughtyFrank]

Uncritical support for Joe Biden should absolutely be bannable.

 

[Ghoul]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1250829533575557126

Least it’s not into an expensive VR headset. Can we get a study into mental illness and games journalism?

[VomKriege]

Is this the sony fanboy guy?? New job with dual shockers? Lol

For your own sake, I hope this is sarcasm

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jason-schreier-is-leaving-kotaku.186132/post-31508520

[Nintex]

I got his gospel release which in turn exposed me to the top ten in that genre the same week and I can say firmly without hesitation that his gospel album was relatively trash, he's not an adequate singer for the genre and of course he has absolutely no business claiming any Christian bonafides given his attitudes, actions and behaviors. It's also interesting to listen to some of his older lyrics and rhymes and realize that phrases you assumed were self aware satire or storytelling are actually just what he genuinely thinks.

But yeah of course have s catalog doesn't mysteriously vanish. It does deserve a second look with new context tho. Like you would with any artist whose life you now better understood.

Your games are also relatively trash HALO MAN but we still tolerate you 

[VomKriege]

Jason is one of the greatest journalists period working today.

 

[Switters]

Case Closed. Book'em Hobbes.

[who is ted danson?]

Now that Schreier is gone they can ban kotaku, right?

[VomKriege]

Abused by Ralph Nader in 2000, the return :

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31507575

[Lonewulfeus]

Okay, I'll go ahead and say it since apparently context clues weren't important: posters like Apharmd blatantly trying to "work the refs" in order to attempt to stifle discussion their worldview doesn't align with.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Logging out now, have fun with this one!

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The irony of someone in the PoliEra discord, which can count the GM and at least 2 other mods as members and has a channel devoted to bitching about posters and requesting bans, whining about “work the refs” is just

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Where the hell are the police?

too busy beating on POC to care about white folks putting people in danger

Even taking this distinguished mentally-challenged one liner at face value, in your scenario what are these black people doing out and about that isn't also putting people in danger during a lock down?

[VomKriege]

ACCELARATIONISTS ACCELARATIONISTS ACCELARATIONISTS ACCELARATIONISTS

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31508946

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31510770

[ShutUp]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-‘irresponsible’.185016/page-24#post-31505775

Won't someone think of your free speech over the comfort of other minority members on the site?

ironic considering the only reason you're still on this site.

Oh crikey.

Now that's some good ether.

[ShutUp]

You're been doing the persecuted member routine for a while now. Which is pretty funny, considering a fair few posters on the left side of the political spectrum got permabanned for talking about biased moderation here.

SUM-MIT
SUM-MIT
SUM-MIT
WE NEED SUMMIT NOW

 

The "persecuted member routine"? Midnight Jon is a victim of sexual assault. Is this the treatment that non-prominent sexual assault victims on the site can look forward to?

[Nintex]

I think Schreier is making the same mistake that most of those game journalists do when they think they are the only reason a website has visitors.
They leave their outlet because it has gotten into their heads that they've 'outgrown' it, thinking that their audience will follow them and they are irreplaceable.
This is fueled by the first day of 'omg he's leaving'.

But to their surprise after a well deserved vacation of 6 - 12 months the kiddo's don't give a shit about them anymore and moved on to other platforms to get their gaming news.
Turns out that building a new platform from the ground up is actually more difficult than they thought and SEO, advertising and page ranking does matter and with their internet personality fading they also can't sell their books anymore.

[VomKriege]

Are Accelarationists a secret cult ? That's a confusing name, they must be mistaken for Accelerationists quite often.

[VomKriege]

You're been doing the persecuted member routine for a while now. Which is pretty funny, considering a fair few posters on the left side of the political spectrum got permabanned for talking about biased moderation here.

SUM-MIT
SUM-MIT
SUM-MIT
WE NEED SUMMIT NOW

 

The "persecuted member routine"? Midnight Jon is a victim of sexual assault. Is this the treatment that non-prominent sexual assault victims on the site can look forward to?

Well yeah ERA kind of shot itself in the foot with omnipresent moderation that relies so much on a nebulous privilege stack and promoting dogmatic positions. I guess it's not a surprise that you have one dude going :

Everyone else is able and responsible. If they're an accelarationist, or you have the receipts that someone is posing as or speaking as a victim and isn't, then alert someone and call it out.

Only way to round that square of two posters claiming equal authority is to attack the legitimacy of one of them.

[VomKriege]

I swear bad faith needs to be removed from people's mouths. You guys seriously have no idea what it means anymore

 

What do you mean we lie in the bed we made ?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31511451

Do you think people coming in here and repeatedly stating that supporting the democrat candidate against Donald Trump should be bannable is not bad faith?

That person was rightfully banned though...

That's not what they were banned for.

More bans for the ban god !

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31512069

[VomKriege]

I think that someone coming into this thread and saying that people who only say "i'm voting for Biden" with no other context should be banned is not necessarily arguing in bad faith. I can believe that someone wants that to happen based on my own experiences with how this forum has been surrounding minority issues.

As an example, when the threads were happening about Contrapoints controversy surrounding nonbinary people, people would pop in the thread and just say "I love Contrapoint" and nothing else. These are rarely actioned because you would have to know that this person is doing it out of malice, but these are often dogwhistles by people who are just being shitty.

I think it's a bit of a stretch and not feasible to do that for issues that aren't the Presidential Election let alone one of this scale, but I don't think it's in bad faith.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31512699

[thisismyusername]

God, I hope he goes to FOX news just for the fallout.

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1250801092310568965

Apparently, he's doing a podcast for some other company. So...

He's leaving due to the corporate managers. So...

I couldn't care so...

Also: "I CAN'T TELL YOU WHERE I'M GOING JUST YET [AS I'M BUSY FINISHING MY BOOK!], BUT I'LL BE DOING A PODCAST AT THIS PLACE [which is more than likely where I'm going to be going to]"

[VomKriege]

Let me try to explain.

Janitorsplaining 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31514421

This is disgusting. This site exists because people believed a sexual assault victim in a he-said-she-said case. How dare you?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31515063

[thisismyusername]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-can-trump-seriously-put-his-name-on-the-1200-stimulus-cheque.185988/

Send me the check so I can tear it up. No way am I taking money with his name on it.

(Image removed from quote.)

Narrator: It was direct deposited into their bank account.

[VomKriege]

I think the expectation that every thread regarding Biden should be filled exclusively with people complaining in every post about how they wish it wasn't Biden they had to vote for is a bad expectation.

*Diggeh's THQN curr copypasta*

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31515249

[thisismyusername]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jason-schreier-is-leaving-kotaku.186132/page-4#post-31499118

FernandoRocker:
(Image removed from quote.)

 

Mobile bookmarks.

[VomKriege]

Like they’re kind of going, oh, I guess this is why there are males.

 

Grocery store employees and nurses, the jobs staffed only by real males.

[VomKriege]

Ben Cheeboro : Facts don't care about your feelings.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31515804

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31516182

Man he's jobbing so hard for that origin story.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31517436

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/most-problematic-song-still-played-on-classic-rock-radio.185724/

Half of the examples here are just "poster failing to appreciate context".

More like 95%.

[Joe Molotov]

Can't wait to follow Jason on THE MAXIMUM FUN NETWORK!

[VomKriege]

Can't wait to follow Jason on THE MAXIMUM FUN NETWORK!

We have a special guest for our Star Trek dick jokes...
 

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-how-the-writers-of-portal-and-psychonauts-old-man-murrays-creators-helped-its-inception.185964/


Fuck this stupid article, this stupid fucking website, and anyone that agrees with this bullshit.

There goes any interest in psychonauts 2. Shame.

He worked on Half Life : Alyx too

Ah, that is the reason why they are sharing the article. Woke brigades are fucking scum.

[VomKriege]

In the real world? If you're cleaning a gun without clearing the chamber and looking down the barrel and I tell you not to do that because you could kill yourself, it's not shaming you. If you say you aren't voting, and someone tells you what happens if you don't vote, that's not shaming you.

The analogy does not go well, Enterprise.

its actual reality, and reality doesn't care how any of us feel about it.

Oh wow.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-says-opposing-biden-is-%E2%80%98irresponsible%E2%80%99.185016/post-31521402

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jason-schreier-is-leaving-kotaku.186132/post-31506642

 

wannabe failure of a mod and games writer simping every mod and games writer he can

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

KetKat really running their ban protection on overdrive right now, I wonder what happens when it overheats?

What the fuck do you guys think shaming means?

I don't know how much the rest of you know about shaming culture (KetKats an expert), but aggressively shouting down any disagreement on the basis you have moral superiority is a huge part of it

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

[Ghoul]

https://twitter.com/puffmain71/status/1250869510485278720 lol

[Lonewulfeus]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/women-seem-a-lot-friendlier-during-this-pandemic.1536167/

Anyone else noticed this? It’s funny how when cracks start in the veneer of society people completely flip their outlook on a dime. It’s interesting to watch the younger generation in particular. Like they’re kind of going, oh, I guess this is why there are males.

My theory, a lot of their usual sources of validation and compliments are cut off to some extent. It’s also the realization of the ridiculousness of feminism in a crisis.

People need to understand that some of these women are taking this as an opportunity to get infinite amounts of free attention with absolutely zero risk of a follow-through being suggested due to the situation. There is no down side for them.

A whole new generation of cucks and incels will be born as a result of this.

jfc

If there is anyone I would trust on cuck and incel issues these days it would be neogaf.

Imagine getting forum cucked by cerium and the boys

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

We are temporarily locking this thread to handle reports, but while we do that, we want to make a few things clear.

The US presidential election affects a very large number of people in a very large number of ways. People are concerned, anxious, and even scared. The current administration has inflicted untold damage and pain on the most vulnerable groups in the US and abroad over the last few years. It is understandable that many of our members feel the stakes are so high that they must do everything they can to convince others to vote in order to expel this administration.

However, none of this excuses or justifies shaming, belittling, or condescendingly speaking over one of the most vulnerable group of them all: victims of sexual assault. Most of them also know what is at stake. Most of them are well aware of the consequences of a Trump administration. But these people, across history, have been disregarded, disbelieved, humiliated, their pain and trauma brushed aside, their credibility picked apart and torn to shreds, over, and over. These people include members of Era and its staff, and it is something we should all be taking extremely seriously.

Describing how the two-party system works, the realities of the electoral college, the stakes of the election, without insinuations or attacks on other members, is not “vote shaming”, no. We will not necessarily moderate posts that only do that, as such. But it is important to acknowledge that such posts might also not be all that helpful, or productive. Most people know that either Trump or Biden will be president, and consider whether insisting on reminding them of that is helpful to the discussion or just alienating someone and possibly, even if unintentionally, handwaving their trauma. We therefore urge our members to treat this matter with the utmost sensitivity and respect. Saying “I am speaking generally, not to victims” is also not helpful, because victims are part of that general group and may read your posts, and feel abandoned. It does not mean you can’t try to convince others, or make your case for voting, but please, please, be considerate.

We have also seen unfortunate implications and accusations flying around regarding those who want to vote for Biden; that they support a rapist, that they don’t care about sexual assault victims, that they are partisan hacks, and so on. Just as non-voters might have very good reasons to abstain, Biden voters might also have very good reasons for their choice. Some of them are also sexual assault victims who are terrified of another Trump presidency. People are not a monolith. Such unsubstantiated accusations towards other members are not acceptable.

This is a difficult and complicated subject with multiple aspects of intersectionality being challenged on all fronts. But there will be many more uncomfortable and painful discussions going forward, until November and beyond. Please, let’s stop the in-fighting and support each other. We all need it.

Huh, let's see where they fall on the "Fuck you you gas lighting piece of shit, voting for diamond joe means you support RAPE" or the "Fuck you you attention seeking piece of shit, if you don't go balls deep biden you support BABIES IN CAGES" side of obnoxious bad faith arguments they fall down on

[VomKriege]

New admin, who dis ?

[Tripon]

New admin, who dis ?

Android Sophia. Old Gaf person.

[BIONIC]

Please, let’s stop the in-fighting and support each other. We all need it.

Except for white babies. Fuck them.

[VomKriege]

Round 2 (or 7 ?) :

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-addresses-reade%E2%80%99s-sexual-assault-allegation-against-joe-biden-has-every-right-in-the-world-to-stand-up-and-make-her-claims%E2%80%9D.186339/

User Banned (3 days): antagonizing other users
Where's Autodidact, I need to know the truth on this issue

[VomKriege]

RedMercury is on a rampage to debase himself, Holy Mary

Sophia made a good post here if anyone is interested

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-31529082

I know the staff is probably stretched pretty thin right now

By what ? How ?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

They have all that case law on sexual misconduct allegations to review

[VomKriege]

Women tend to get nicer the less you interact with them, so this makes sense.

Big Chad Energy.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/women-seem-a-lot-friendlier-during-this-pandemic.1536167/post-257791451

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

I’m in the mod discord, they’re going to start adding this to the top of all political threads.

We have no intention of banning discussion of this campaign outright, and the rape allegations against the candidate can be relevant. However, it is clear that there will be no peace in these threads without tighter moderation and brighter lines. Therefore if that discussion is to happen we are laying down two ground rules:

1. The rape allegations against Biden are horrifying and traumatic. Defense of his rapes will be moderated like any other defense of rape. Do not try to find sneaky ways to circumvent this ruling, like singling out Biden for nonspecific praise or support.

EDIT: We appreciate everyone who took the time to contact us privately to help improve our policies. After discussion and review, we are softening enforcement of the last sentence of Rule 1 – this was never intended to forbid discussion about Biden as a politician or Vice President but rather to close a loophole whereby posters were deliberately attempting to provoke others with vague drive by posts. You should still not do that. However, it is certainly possible to appreciate the accomplishments of the campaign without subscribing to Biden’s personal views.
​
2. Voting for Biden does not automatically make someone a horrible person and nothing will be learned or gained by anyone if you take that stance. Do not attack other members just for voting for him  or enjoying mundane aspects about him. Do not attempt to shame them.
​
There is room to discuss Biden as a cultural artifact with nuance and in a manner where some actual exchange of ideas is possible -- but only if the above two conditions are met. If you do not feel you can adhere to those two conditions, do not post in these threads. Be advised that moderators may have to apply stricter penalties than usual to keep the peace.

[VomKriege]

A nuanced cultural artifact is what Muhrica needs !
BIDEN 2020

[Don Rumata]

Women tend to get nicer the less you interact with them, so this makes sense.

Big Chad Energy.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/women-seem-a-lot-friendlier-during-this-pandemic.1536167/post-257791451

Actually true. I think of them like cats, which is something even women agree about (on times I've dared to speak with them).

NeoGaf: We think of women like cats.
Resetera: We think of cats like women.

 

[zepblackstar]

Jason Schreier gonna work for Washington Post gaming section considering he has been kissing gene park's ass since it opened.

[Joe Molotov]

RedMercury is on a rampage to debase himself, Holy Mary

Sophia made a good post here if anyone is interested

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-on-how-we-treat-sexual-assault-victims-on-this-site.181172/post-31529082

I know the staff is probably stretched pretty thin right now

By what ? How ?

All those summits at the Resetera HQ got cancelled. It's hard on everyone.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Really can't see how ketkat hasn't scorched through their ban protection yet; literally jumps straight into the reopened bernie endorses biden thread to start attacking people again with not a single fuck to give about the modpost.

What the fuck are you talking about? I've never said any of that, and my entire point was calling out the way YOU were being dismissive towards other victims and the ways that people are trying to shame them for being uncomfortable with Biden

Literally being dismissive towards a victim nd attempting to shame them for not being uncomfortable with Biden, like, fucking spiderman.jpeg

[remy]

the bires agents are everywhere 

[Lonewulfeus]

I’m in the mod discord, they’re going to start adding this to the top of all political threads.

We have no intention of banning discussion of this campaign outright, and the rape allegations against the candidate can be relevant. However, it is clear that there will be no peace in these threads without tighter moderation and brighter lines. Therefore if that discussion is to happen we are laying down two ground rules:

1. The rape allegations against Biden are horrifying and traumatic. Defense of his rapes will be moderated like any other defense of rape. Do not try to find sneaky ways to circumvent this ruling, like singling out Biden for nonspecific praise or support.

EDIT: We appreciate everyone who took the time to contact us privately to help improve our policies. After discussion and review, we are softening enforcement of the last sentence of Rule 1 – this was never intended to forbid discussion about Biden as a politician or Vice President but rather to close a loophole whereby posters were deliberately attempting to provoke others with vague drive by posts. You should still not do that. However, it is certainly possible to appreciate the accomplishments of the campaign without subscribing to Biden’s personal views.
​
2. Voting for Biden does not automatically make someone a horrible person and nothing will be learned or gained by anyone if you take that stance. Do not attack other members just for voting for him  or enjoying mundane aspects about him. Do not attempt to shame them.
​
There is room to discuss Biden as a cultural artifact with nuance and in a manner where some actual exchange of ideas is possible -- but only if the above two conditions are met. If you do not feel you can adhere to those two conditions, do not post in these threads. Be advised that moderators may have to apply stricter penalties than usual to keep the peace.

This is the juiciest shit you can get us from the mod discord?

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

 

[Joe Molotov]

So their whole existence they've lived on being anti-Trump/Republican/Conservative and now they're really going to run with "we'll ban people who compliment the Democratic nominee"

it's like putting all your eggs on US bipartisan politics for literally every topic, whether it's relevant or not, would have backfired.

Do not try to find sneaky ways to circumvent this ruling.