Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature.190260/

Thread will be a graveyard in an hour.

[VomKriege]

Yeah I kinda wondered where all the prerelease ERA commentary on Barrett went, I thought that maybe the game was just that good.

TVTropes sourcing

[Snoopycat_]

I think it tells us a lot about Ree that they immediately class "essential workers" as retail staff.  Not medical staff, care workers or first responders but retail. Why is that I wonder?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cuomo%E2%80%99s-advice-to-protestors-%E2%80%9Cyou-want-to-go-to-work-go-take-a-job-as-an-essential-worker-%E2%80%9D.190083/

[Pissy F Benny]

They should’ve titled the thread The Racist Crimes of Tetsuya Normura

[Straight Edge]

OP sounds like an angry black man. And what is wrong with Mr. T? He’s awesome.

[VomKriege]

They should’ve titled the thread The Racist Crimes of Tetsuya Normura

Nomura the same guy that makes all the bad guys in kh dark skinned.

Missed opportunity yeah.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature.190260/post-32059098

[Snoopycat_]

Man, those guys are going to shit bricks when they see Huggy Bear

[VomKriege]

What is the problem?

Can't have a discussion if there's no problem. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jessies-unquenchable-thirst-a-look-into-ff7rs-script-across-both-languages.190107/

[bork]

https://livestreamfails.com/post/78825
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/invadervie-apologizes-after-vile-unsubscribed-twitch-viewer-comments-1356677

“The clip that you saw does not represent my true feelings," she continued. "I’ve streamed for hundreds of hours and I’ve said, 'Support communities after you support yourself first. Subscribe if you have the disposable income to do so.' But in that clip, I expressed opinions that I do not hold.”

 

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature.190260/page-6#post-32061069

They could have made him like Jett from Cowboy Bebop. But just shows how behind in writing, especially characterization video games as a medium is.

If only video games could be as well written as comic books, MCU movies, and Korean “totally not watching for an Asian fetish” dramas 

[nachobro]

ResetEra is literally the only place on earth that has a favorable opinion of Nancy Pelosi. It's so fucking odd.

they have a lot in common. she loves keeping the status quo and they love complaining about the status quo but not actually wanting it to change.

[Transhuman]

https://livestreamfails.com/post/78825
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/invadervie-apologizes-after-vile-unsubscribed-twitch-viewer-comments-1356677

“The clip that you saw does not represent my true feelings," she continued. "I’ve streamed for hundreds of hours and I’ve said, 'Support communities after you support yourself first. Subscribe if you have the disposable income to do so.' But in that clip, I expressed opinions that I do not hold.”

 

[nachobro]

Not really, people love these sorts of characters but I for the life can't understand why, they are textbook racist and awful.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature.190260/post-32056962

Everything I don't like is RACIST

[Pissy F Benny]

https://livestreamfails.com/post/78825
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/invadervie-apologizes-after-vile-unsubscribed-twitch-viewer-comments-1356677

“The clip that you saw does not represent my true feelings," she continued. "I’ve streamed for hundreds of hours and I’ve said, 'Support communities after you support yourself first. Subscribe if you have the disposable income to do so.' But in that clip, I expressed opinions that I do not hold.”

 

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stop hotlinking

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature.190260/

Thread will be a graveyard in an hour.

Remember when Barret wasn't black enough?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/final-fantasy-vii-remake-some-fans-are-mad-because-barret-looks-white.117164/

[Snoopycat_]

"Jesus Christ ERA. Are some of these replies serious? What the fuck?! This place is so racist sometimes"

It's literally a KKK recruitment site

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature.190260/page-3#post-32058066

[Coitus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/man-who-called-covid-19-a-political-ploy-dies-from-covid-19.190116/post-32040708

“This thread provided too many of our members an opportunity to show just how absolutely god-awful they are so we’re closing it.”

[Pissy F Benny]

Celebrating the death of a rando, ouch brother

[Don Rumata]

this seems to be from a year ago so maybe yelling at her fans is just her thing. plenty of guys into that.

Allow me a quick  analogy:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

GF = Car
GFE = Taxi ride
E-thot = BUS ride
This = hanging off the open door of an overcrowded Train

[close]

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/man-who-called-covid-19-a-political-ploy-dies-from-covid-19.190116/post-32040708

“This thread provided too many of our members an opportunity to show just how absolutely god-awful they are so we’re closing it.”

wow a drforester thread that isnt PRESIDENT ASSWIPE BUTTFACE FUCKS DOGS AND RUINS AMERICA (trump)

[Ghoul]

representation. No not like that.

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah I kinda wondered where all the prerelease ERA commentary on Barrett went, I thought that maybe the game was just that good.

TVTropes sourcing

Excuse me, but as a scholar of popular media I couldn't help but notice that this pop culture entertainment product happens to feature a black man who is ANGRY and sometimes SCARY. If I could direct your attention to the in-depth investigations done by TVTropes.com, you'll find that

[Ghoul]

Era watched The Wire. God damn they'd freak.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

This moment put him over the top for me, though. I just dropped the controller and had to think on it for a second.

Things that happened.

[nachobro]

> OP is upset about an angry black man

> He himself is enraged by the very sight of a fictional video game character

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature.190260/post-32071827

[Ghoul]

snopes breaks it down pretty well. Happened- guy changed his mind shortly after- but stark reminder of what “different opinions “ can do when they come from our leaders and have serious consequences.

trump is responsible not just for the dangerous falsehoods he’s personally spread (and continues to spread) but for turning a black and white scientific reality into politicized FUD that hurts his base directly and everyone else by proxy.

he should be removed from office to prevent more death.

Stinkles you think removing a president and just leaving Pence in charge is a good idea then? Just go back to ruining Halo you fucking quack.

[Ghoul]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

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[VomKriege]

@Abdul Malik Ka'bah, I have a feeling you may be seeing more pushback than usual because your thread title kind of reads as "Barret, the character itself, is ignorant and racist (presumably against whites)", rather than "Barret's portrayal comes from an ignorant and racist place".

Haven't seen anyone make the confusion that way but I only skimmed through the first pages. Have we gonna pivot to white fragility again ?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature.190260/post-32083041

[VomKriege]

So, I'm White.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature.190260/post-32083224

[Pissy F Benny]

I'd like to hear from enzom21 on this matter

[Ghoul]

I don't think I want to be taught what black means by a forum that will call another black member a distinguished black fellow or coon because they don't drink the kool aid.

[Raist]

I haven't played the OG so I might misremember, but it seems to me that Barret's character is a lot more nuanced in the remake, as opposed to the OG where he was angry and shouting 99% of the time.

There are a ton of scenes in the remake where he shows a lot of humour, compassion, weakness, etc.

So I guess black characters can't be "angry" at all then? because something something TV tropes?

[Uncle]

So I guess black characters can't be "angry" at all then? because something something TV tropes?

and they'll be the first to tell you how frustrating it is that minorities need to Be Better, be larger than life, behave perfectly and in non-stereotypical ways

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

So, I'm White.

[BIONIC]

No. We are not doing this today.

The use of racial stereotypes in media is not okay. They do not disappear or become okay just because you give a character imbued with stereotypes a character arc.

This does not mean you cannot like a character that is stereotypical or problematic in some way. It is practically an inevitability of engaging in media created in a world perpetually informed by racism. You can discuss whether or not you think Barrett supersedes his stereotyping, the differences between his old and new characterization, how certain scenes in the games portray him and relate back to those stereotypes, how the voice actor's thought process relates to this, SE's treatment of minority characters as a whole, etc.. This is all valid discussion.

What you cannot do, and will not do so long as this thread is allowed to remain open, is insinuate that people who still have a problem with Barrett despite his characterization are the real racists, or are not black, or try to dismiss or downplay anyone's feelings regarding the stereotypes themselves just because you like Barrett.

The staff post will stand. Discussion will continue on. If you've got any complaints from this point forth, PM them directly to me or other administrators. Do not derail the thread with meta commentary and complaining about moderation, especially since the fact that a lot of you are even still have accounts with how awfully you've approached the subject is a personal blessing by me.

Now enough.

[BIONIC]

All modding and no capoeira makes nepnep a dull furry 

[Ghoul]

lol paying for a car you can't drive in a pandemic at a high % 

You know Step Daddy is hounding for those payments too because that's his ass in trouble if they don't pay haha.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

BAN THEM ALL YOU COWARD

[nachobro]

won't even ban the bad actors, some ally

[VomKriege]

Nepenthe is definitely ramping up the Bish. 

Personal blessings from the Lord, definitely what I want in forum moderation.

[VomKriege]

So now I guess the thread about Cloud cross dressing is a matter of days.

[Tripon]

No. We are not doing this today.

The use of racial stereotypes in media is not okay. They do not disappear or become okay just because you give a character imbued with stereotypes a character arc.

This does not mean you cannot like a character that is stereotypical or problematic in some way. It is practically an inevitability of engaging in media created in a world perpetually informed by racism. You can discuss whether or not you think Barrett supersedes his stereotyping, the differences between his old and new characterization, how certain scenes in the games portray him and relate back to those stereotypes, how the voice actor's thought process relates to this, SE's treatment of minority characters as a whole, etc.. This is all valid discussion.

What you cannot do, and will not do so long as this thread is allowed to remain open, is insinuate that people who still have a problem with Barrett despite his characterization are the real racists, or are not black, or try to dismiss or downplay anyone's feelings regarding the stereotypes themselves just because you like Barrett.

The staff post will stand. Discussion will continue on. If you've got any complaints from this point forth, PM them directly to me or other administrators. Do not derail the thread with meta commentary and complaining about moderation, especially since the fact that a lot of you are even still have accounts with how awfully you've approached the subject is a personal blessing by me.

Now enough.

sure white baby killer.

[Ghoul]

So now I guess the thread about Cloud cross dressing is a matter of days.

When is KetKat unbanned? That'll be the start.

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature-read-threadmarks.190260/post-32087103

“dismissing concerns will be subject to moderation“ so would that lead to someone of colour being banned or not? Or is it only if you’re white?

Only if you’re white.

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

nepenthe posts says:

Threadmarks Reiteration of the staff post

but there's no other staff post in the thread?

[Propagandhim]

 

[HaughtyFrank]

Was going to comment but just saw the staff communication about having to agree with the OP and ignore his very clearly protrayed reasons for being like he is. Well, on to another thread it is, bye.

User banned (2 weeks): Mod-whining, dismissive trolling.

He's right though. If you disagree you're labeled as dismissive which gets you banned. There's no way around it. They even called his "trolling" dismissive 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

The amount of rage this man generates inside me whenever he is on screen is insane. I haven't seen anything this hilariously racist in a AAA film since.... I don't even know when. Who the hell has angry black man and scary black man tropes in their films in 2018? Seriously. Disney a global billion dollar conglomerate with all sorts of people working for them so I'm not going to buy the comics excuse at all.

[VomKriege]

Will ERA ever cross that line of actually requesting authentification for the "race" of its members ? Might as well be effective if you're going balls deep on the racism. Because as it stands it's insulting on top of being empty rhetoric.

[HaughtyFrank]

Will ERA ever cross that line of actually requesting authentification the "race" of its members ? Might as well be effective if you're going balls deep on the racism. Because as it stands it's insulting on top of being empty rhetoric.

There is this funny aspect where they're bothered that people introduce themselves "as a black man" while at the same time they've decided that the color of the skin is more important than the quality of the post

[Raist]

nepenthe posts says:

Threadmarks Reiteration of the staff post

but there's no other staff post in the thread?



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A whole bunch of people in the first few pages were banned for "ignoring staff post". Long before any mod/admin even posted in the thread. And not even as a "staff post"

[Cauliflower Of Love]

nepenthe posts says:

Threadmarks Reiteration of the staff post

but there's no other staff post in the thread?



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A whole bunch of people in the first few pages were banned for "ignoring staff post". Long before any mod/admin even posted in the thread. And not even as a "staff post"

I kept seeing a reference to it. lol

Maybe they put the wrong visibility on it and only VIP members can see it or something.

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature-read-threadmarks.190260/post-32090514

No, you won't be missed.
Good fucking riddance.

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-square-can-make-drastic-changes-to-ff7-in-the-remake-but-couldnt-be-bothered-to-not-make-barrett-an-ignorant-racist-caricature-read-threadmarks.190260/page-18

Saying Barret doesn't fall into racist stereotypes because he's an interesting character with a good arc is like saying some female character with giant boobs and a thigh gap isn't a sexist portrayal because she gets to have a personality with some depth. These traits aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Propagandhim]

Is this what happens when we're reduced to analyzing Final Fantasy 7 like it's To Kill a Mockingbird?  Remember when Gamespot said Grand Theft Auto 4 was basically Citizen Kane level writing.  This is what we're dealing with here.

[Uncle]

I like what square enix did with boo radley's character but did they really have to keep him so stereotypically distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed

[bork]

No. We are not doing this today.

The use of racial stereotypes in media is not okay. They do not disappear or become okay just because you give a character imbued with stereotypes a character arc.

This does not mean you cannot like a character that is stereotypical or problematic in some way. It is practically an inevitability of engaging in media created in a world perpetually informed by racism. You can discuss whether or not you think Barrett supersedes his stereotyping, the differences between his old and new characterization, how certain scenes in the games portray him and relate back to those stereotypes, how the voice actor's thought process relates to this, SE's treatment of minority characters as a whole, etc.. This is all valid discussion.

What you cannot do, and will not do so long as this thread is allowed to remain open, is insinuate that people who still have a problem with Barrett despite his characterization are the real racists, or are not black, or try to dismiss or downplay anyone's feelings regarding the stereotypes themselves just because you like Barrett.

The staff post will stand. Discussion will continue on. If you've got any complaints from this point forth, PM them directly to me or other administrators. Do not derail the thread with meta commentary and complaining about moderation, especially since the fact that a lot of you are even still have accounts with how awfully you've approached the subject is a personal blessing by me.

Now enough.

Holy shit, it's Bishop 2.0!  How long until the ResetEra unban project begins, after Nepenthe is kicked to the curb?

[BIONIC]

There was a “staff post” above the reply box since the thread hit 3 pages  , but maybe you need an account to see it

[Transhuman]

I imagine a lot of them make new accounts and then lie about their beliefs to fit in, and they are extra careful not to say anything remotely opinionated. Hell of a way to live your life.