Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[Uncle]

the mods have all got to be nervous wrecks behind the scenes, absolutely hating their job (or else just quietly ghosting the place)

not only do they have to immerse themselves in the most hateful bigoted posts constantly so they can action them, but they also have to deal with the people who are on the opposite side of the spectrum mad that they're not silencing enough

they can't stop moderating era because they care about the cause so much that they can't abandon the place to become a cesspool

they can't trust anybody to add as new mods to help take a load off because anyone could be a deep state infiltrator who will share their secrets on discords

[clothedmacuser]

Lol at thinking Buck Angel is more known from whatever the fuck Contrapoints is or that you need to be in the trans community to know who he is, and not from the 15 years as the pretty much only famous trans porn star that isn't a chick with a dick variety with appearances on Stern, Rogan, and the like.

It's because, like always, Excel was the first to discover it and she was the first to bring it to attention and she's the going to change things.  Here she is assuming that nobody knew about Buck angel tell she informed her flock.  She is so desperate to be the voice of the people and savior of mankind when in reality she's just a jerk and condescending  bully.

[Rman]

the mods have all got to be nervous wrecks behind the scenes, absolutely hating their job (or else just quietly ghosting the place)

not only do they have to immerse themselves in the most hateful bigoted posts constantly so they can action them, but they also have to deal with the people who are on the opposite side of the spectrum mad that they're not silencing enough

they can't stop moderating era because they care about the cause so much that they can't abandon the place to become a cesspool

they can't trust anybody to add as new mods to help take a load off because anyone could be a deep state infiltrator who will share their secrets on discords

They're also blasted with reports all day every day.

[Uncle]

here's a thought:

during a crisis like this where mods are being called out for being terrible and not policing the community well enough and all the trans members of the site are upset at them,

make a thread where you compliment the mods on doing a great job 

"I know some people give you guys a hard time, even now there are people saying you're not doing a good enough job, but I say honestly fuck those people, you're all just doing your best and you make this site a great place to be  "

would praising the mods get you banned for transphobia?

[pgtl_10]

Except Nazis hated socialists and communists. I don't understand people desperately try to associate Nazism with the left especially considering Hitler made deals with the German rich and powerful.

The Nazis WERE socialists. That's what the "S" in "NSDAP" stands for. "National Socialist German Worker's Party". "Socialist", "Worker's Party" - pretty fucking obvious, no? I own a collection of actual NSDAP pre-war flyers and propaganda pamphlets, they are very, very clear. Yes, they hated communists, but mostly because they were nationalists and considered the communist party a Soviet asset. Sure, Hitler was no socialist hardliner (unlike many other NSDAP leaders who were all for seizing the means of production), and sure, some large companies supported him, but what exactly is that supposed to prove? He got donations from industrialists, therefore he had to be a capitalist? The elite saw the writing on the wall and tried to buy influence. Sure, you could say they weren't "real" socialists and were just lying to the public and their own members, but how is that any different from Stalin, Mao, Castro, Honecker, Pol Pot or any other communist/ socialist leader in history?

Touche,

You openly admitted the Nazis wasn't really socialist and opposed socialism.

They sound like neolibs.

[pgtl_10]

China is a republic 

And the German Democratic Republic was both democratic and a republic.

The Nazis promised equal rights for all citizens (including full religious freedom, funnily enough - unless you're Jewish of course), they promised to dismantle banks, large corporations and the military industrial complex, they promised to give the land owned by the rich elite to the people, they promised that all workers would get a fair share of their employers profits, they promised free education and pensions for all, universal healthcare and all those other things. Those promises were how they got support and ultimately managed to seize power. They told the plebs exactly what they wanted to hear, and what they want to hear clearly didn't change all that much in the last 100 years. I'm not a comic guy, but I'll quote Lobo here: "Never trust fucking nobody."

What really pisses me off is that some people seem to think calling Nazis (or their program) left wing is somehow pro-Nazi. It absolutely isn't. Socialism is and has always been pied piper nonsense. I'd argue it's inherently flawed, it never worked and always led to disaster. But that doesn't mean I'm libertarian or support unchecked capitalism, either.

Kirblar is that you?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Crazy lady destroys mask display

https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1279881423500054528


Police confront her wearing Literal Nazi War Time Outfit

https://twitter.com/chipfranklin/status/1279882428987969538
Will Era care? 

You have to know what she's wild in bed.

[Joe Molotov]

the mods have all got to be nervous wrecks behind the scenes, absolutely hating their job (or else just quietly ghosting the place)

not only do they have to immerse themselves in the most hateful bigoted posts constantly so they can action them, but they also have to deal with the people who are on the opposite side of the spectrum mad that they're not silencing enough

they can't stop moderating era because they care about the cause so much that they can't abandon the place to become a cesspool

they can't trust anybody to add as new mods to help take a load off because anyone could be a deep state infiltrator who will share their secrets on discords

their "job"

 

[zepblackstar]

Do they get paid or just vols? I get reddit mods but having pride in being a era mod is very sad

[clothedmacuser]

let me be CLEAR..I’m making this thread for fun discussion.

https://www.resetera.com//threads/legendary-conspiracy-theories-that-make-you-wonder-no-alt-right-bullshit.241705/

No

Fun!

[benjipwns]

We've been monitoring this thread, and we continue to do so for cases of transphobia and bigotry. We've seen a significant number of reports from transgender members directed at fellow transgender members in this thread for disagreeing with them, something that has become untenable. As a reminder, just because a member disagrees with you on a particular stance does not necessarily mean that member is cisgender or attempting to cissplain.

This is not being an ally. Stay in your lane.

[benjipwns]

Last night there was one about a op asking if naming covid the Wuhan virus was racist. 30 people said no. Like I don't even know e.e

Yeah, we managed to close that one down in half an hour (it was like 6.30am for me and middle of the night in the US). It’s crazy to see the number of people who vote and run, so yeah, we just aren’t going to be allowing such polls on minority/bigotry-related issues. Voting and not posting to avoid moderation for a shitty point of view implies we shouldn’t allow such poll options to exist in the first place, it just allows a weight of indifference to dismiss the concerns of people who the question affects.

Just curious, can mods/admins see who voted for what or is it really anonymous? Seems like a lot of these should be outright bannable.

I know I wasn’t able to, and am pretty sure admins couldn’t either. Seems like an option for anonymous votes for an option given by the thread/poll creator that would otherwise be actionable as a post were an oversight in the software. After 2.5 years of the site, I’m honestly surprised it hasn’t come up earlier, I guess we all thought it would be used for polls on ‘which is the worst Thor film’ and ‘Sonic, Mario or Crash’ rather than as a way to remind minority opinions that they were in the minority or for trash opinions to hide en-masse. Fuck that noise.

Anonymously voting on a hurtful answer seems like a sleazy and roundabout way to avoid a ban.

There used to be an option for making votes visible but it was removed a few months ago. Maybe on polls like that it should be enabled, although I guess in that case people would just avoid voting.

Having it set to staff side monitoring regardless would fix that.

If people know staff can see who voted, they won't vote.

But isn't it better that way since bad faith polls would be more scrutinized?

#TrustTheProgress

[VomKriege]

I just don’t get their endgame here. They constantly complain about moderation not bing strict enough. Why not create your forum?

Because what they really want is the platform, the audience and the attention.
They'll say for outreach or education purposes, I suspect there's some e-peen considerations myself.

[VomKriege]

All I can say is solidarity. It feels like its been ages since that last community meeting.

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-hindsight-the-whole-end-of-history-spiel-was-dumb-af.242002/

ITT: nobody understands what End of History means and some petty sniping, sounds like resetera alright.

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-hindsight-the-whole-end-of-history-spiel-was-dumb-af.242002/

ITT: nobody understands what End of History means and some petty sniping, sounds like resetera alright.

I mean he doesn’t even know what Fukuyama’s theory is. How has he destroyed it?

This thread is weird. I don’t even agree with Fukuyama’s theory, but most people here are making up some bizarre cartoon version of it and are extremely proud of not engaging with the actual thing, like not having any idea what’s going on is something to be smug about.

There was some Marxist user who used to post here, cocaloch, who would always complain about some anti-intellectual bent he always saw on this forum. I’m starting to see where he was coming from.

 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

He's right.

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[VomKriege]

Wait you decided to go aggro with an utterly narrow understanding of the issue at hand? Seriously?

"Who are you again ?"

[BisMarckie]

When even simple argumentation tools like memes in a subreddit can destroy the logic behind your core thesis then that tells you everything about Fukuyama’s theory.

Fukuyama‘s essay isn‘t some prophecy that stopped the world in its tracks, but to argue that it‘s been debunked by a meme is just a galaxy brain take. 

[BisMarckie]

Seriously how dare you get snide with excels as you repeat in an empty loop without addressing anything? It's an infuriating insult.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-we-overlooking-that-salem-22-years-old-has-encouraged-captain-zack-15-years-old-his-sexual-abuse.241675/#post-38933137

It's so fucking gross that he was keyboard smashing over the "cute moans" of what he thought were minors

*stares at avatar*

 

[Clockwork5]

Wait you decided to go aggro with an utterly narrow understanding of the issue at hand? Seriously?

"Who are you again ?"

I mean he is obviously a troll.  I’ll give it to him, he has been pretty effective, duping the big names into live-blogging their hurt feelings. Does he have a point? I guess, but that is secondary to the troll.

[benjipwns]

When even simple argumentation tools like memes in a subreddit can destroy the logic behind your core thesis then that tells you everything about Fukuyama’s theory.

Fukuyama‘s essay isn‘t some prophecy that stopped the world in its tracks, but to argue that it‘s been debunked by a meme is just a galaxy brain take. 

you're in no position to judge others on their viewpoints, mister "oopsie i defended/sympathized with a white supremacist reddit mod"

all i'm saying is take the L on how you caped for literal ethnostate desiring nazis before antagonizing any vaguely leftist posts

Also as a side note, branding users as far left wing redditors as mockery is typically employed as an alt-right dogwhistle, I would avoid doing that in the future as you might be misunderstood.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-hindsight-the-whole-end-of-history-spiel-was-dumb-af.242002/

Overall looking back it seems to have just been white arrogance with a tinge of malicious ignorance on the part of global issues.

[benjipwns]

I won't speak to anything specific but I was a member at the 'old site' since 04 and here since launch-
The constant dismissal of transphobia and racism has had me considering closing my account.
Particularly I feel like the way this forum has given Cyberpunk's dev studio and social media folks a pass because they think the game looks 'epic' is especially embarrassing and awful.
Wether y'all like it or not, era has done a lot to "cancel" devs, studios, and game industry personalities for a lot less.
Every time Cyberpunk acts terrible to trans people (it keeps happening lmao) this forum has a litany of excuses. Y'all like being part of the industry manufactured 'hype train' so much that a lot of you leave your morals at the door.

[VomKriege]

Cancel culture doesn't exist, but we never said anything about "cancel" culture. 

[Pissy F Benny]

It reset era is too much of a bigoted chess pit for some of these people, I’d love to know where they’re gonna go that’s so much more better

[BIONIC]

It reset era is too much of a bigoted chess pit for some of these people, I’d love to know where they’re gonna go that’s so much more better

Cream forum 

[Pissy F Benny]

 

[benjipwns]

Anonymous polls honestly don't seem like they have a place here. If someone feels the need to be anonymous about their choice and can't post even a single word reply to support their choice, it means it probably doesn't belong on the site, especially on a forum board made to talk to people. They're just gonna keep being used in bad faith.

[VomKriege]

Anonymous polls honestly don't seem like they have a place here. If someone feels the need to be anonymous about their choice and can't post even a single word reply to support their choice, it means it probably doesn't belong on the site, especially on a forum board made to talk to people. They're just gonna keep being used in bad faith.

[benjipwns]

Vote with your real account coward.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-the-new-update-in-animal-crossing-new-horizon-stranger-can-leap-off-the-pier-which-might-makes-scamming-easier.242221/#post-38941570

If you think Animal Crossing isn't a game worth taking seriously then I don't think it's worth explaining, you wouldn't understand.

Newsfeed

[Pissy F Benny]

[Snoopycat_]

Those racist Resetera admin are at it again

White culture and minimal self-examination kind of go hand-in-hand.
 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/qanon-karen-destroys-target-facemask-display-films-her-own-subsequent-arrest.242044/page-4#post-38930467

How long until she starts ranting about skull shapes?

[Straight Edge]

I’m always LMAO when reee adds that a white person was also blonde, as if that makes them worse than a usual white person.

[Pissy F Benny]

Blonde thotties

[Pissy F Benny]

I’m just glad we’ve come full circle and it’s PC to talk shit about women again

[bork]

I’m just glad we’ve come full circle and it’s PC to talk shit about women again

[Ghoul]

misogyny is back on the menu boys!

[Nintex]

Sometimes I'll read some funny meltdown over a review score not being a 9/10, and I'd like to share it and laugh, and then I go into the existing shitbin thread and it's full of ignorant misogyny.

It'd be funny to laugh at people being funny clowns without being attached to misogyny that get real serious about psyche evaluations and equate it to the misogyny of misogyny.

I've had multiple Boreans (that have misogyny or on break) share these concerns fwiw

[Uncle]

I've had multiple Boreans (that have misogyny or on break) share these concerns fwiw

yeah don't bother me about having my misogyny when I'm on break

[tiesto]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-hindsight-the-whole-end-of-history-spiel-was-dumb-af.242002/

Overall looking back it seems to have just been white arrogance with a tinge of malicious ignorance on the part of global issues.

Francis Fukuyama, my favorite white person.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

User Banned (Permanent): Drive-By Trolling in a Sensitive Thread; Long History of Dismissive Behavior and Patterm of Misogynistic Posts

These last batch of posts regarding polls...am I still on planet Earth?

That answer your question?

[VomKriege]

User Banned (Permanent): Drive-By Trolling in a Sensitive Thread; Long History of Dismissive Behavior and Patterm of Misogynistic Posts

These last batch of posts regarding polls...am I still on planet Earth?

That answer your question?

Welcome to planet ERArth motherfucker !

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/guys-do-you-pee-sitting-down-or-standing-up.242326/

those poll results

[joeboy101]

Those racist Resetera admin are at it again

White culture and minimal self-examination kind of go hand-in-hand.
 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/qanon-karen-destroys-target-facemask-display-films-her-own-subsequent-arrest.242044/page-4#post-38930467

How long until she starts ranting about skull shapes?

I hate to break it to her, but most cultures are lacking in self-examination.

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/guys-do-you-pee-sitting-down-or-standing-up.242326/

those poll results

WTF? Do they wipe through when they are done?

[BisMarckie]

Let's hope this poll isn't anonymous to hold people accountable.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/guys-do-you-pee-sitting-down-or-standing-up.242326/

those poll results

was waiting for this one

Whats being a guy got to do with how one pisses?
Seems mild unintentional cisexism tbh...

 

[BisMarckie]

"Guys" is a perfectly usable term for a group of people regardless of identification, come on.

Many trans and NB folks, myself included, don't consider it to be ok.

You better say Hey penis-persons the next time

[bork]

Drama in reee's "post your favorite perverted character design images" "Why women criticise sexualised character designs |OT2| I have no pants and I must scream" thread:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot2-i-have-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/page-365#post-38799574

I loved the game, think

spoiler (click to show/hide)

the killing of Joel

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was genius and Abby is a great character but I don't find her the least bit attractive with such a bulky broad frame and strong jawline.

That’s a really bizarre statement to want to get out there... Another poster mentions that Abby is attractive, but because you personally don’t find her attractive, she’s not attractive?

You de-lurked to come in this thread and say this? Really?

The original poster made a point of saying some people can't take a beautiful/attractive butch doing what she did. I just wanted get out a counter point that I liked the game and Abby but still not her looks. People dislike the game or the deed because of her looks might be true but not necessarily part of the equation.

Honestly there are so many strong opinions and reasons people hate on the game. I would probably have preferred a prettier face on Abby for one but I still think ND's design is the most fitting one for the story and character dynamics, they all look and feel so real. ND did many bold and daring choices and I found them to be thrilling. But I can't help to feel they toned down Elie's looks a tad bit from the first game. Joel is probably the most handsome looking character in the entire game but I found others to look more lifelike such as Mel, Owen, Isac, Dina and Jessie comes off as more natural looking.

My dude, coming into this specific thread just to talk about how you didn't find a couple of TLOU's female characters as attractive as you would have preferred is, like, remarkably tone deaf.

There are 480329840302 others games out there with conventionally attractive women in them, you don't need to complain about one of the few games that designs its female characters like real people instead of supermodels, and you certainly don't need to be doing it in this thread of all places. Not to mention it being your first time even commenting here, and that's what you decide to open with? Telling another user they're wrong to call Abby attractive and how she and Ellie shoulda been prettier???

You are right, my bad.

...

I completely understand how you feel, I can emphasize with this viewpoint at times, I found Xenoblade 2 and Nier to be a bit distracting at first and didn't take them too seriously either, well Automata was freaking epic. I personally don't like anime beach episodes as it interrupts the story. I especially don't like submissive character without agency as is way too prevalent in many animes these days, there is nothing worse than a strong tsundere female lead that unexpectedly cracks after a while and becomes a submissive love interest for the protagonist. But while objectifying is terrible in real life and everyone deserves to be treated as person with respect. I can't really see the problem with blatantly using objectification or sex in games or anime to cater to a paying audience whether I like it or not. It's like freedom of expression and speech.

Let's look at the threadtitle again together. Right now you are posting in a topic called "Why women criticise sexualised character designs", and your contribution is basically "I don't see a problem" and also "freedom of speech". Like, wtf? Objectification ingame normalizes it for real life and vice versa. It's a vicious cicle.
I'm pretty sure it is even explained rather well in the OP, where the problem lies.

With the Dead or Alive game as an example, Famassu explained very well how porn has a right to exist, that's not the issue. The paying audience can still have them.
But stop shoving this shit into everything, that exists. MGS5 or DMC5 are far away from porn as much as possible. Still they show naked female asses as if they were. They treat the women in their cast with no respect at all. This shit is hurtful and disappointing. And it is tiresome especially as a female gamer, who would like to have a strong and decent clothed woman once in a while.

Can't you have a non agreeing discourse in this thread?

You telling us what you find attractive and unattractive is not discourse nor have you actually discussed any of the points that have been raised in this thread other than saying you don't see a problem

If you're gonna jump in outta nowhere with this galaxy brained shit, then I might as well jump in with mine.

I'm a straight dude and Abby is fucking gorgeous, and I'll fight to the death on top of this hill.

Nice to know that this thread about how developers like to reduce the essence of female characters entirely down to their appearances has devolved to this point, but I felt urged to provide my rebuttal.

User banned (permanent): repeatedly trolling the thread with sexism and condescending behaviour, account in junior phase

It seems like my post with "strong jaw" is being appropriated. I never said women with strong jaw lines shouldn't exist, that no one find them attractive, that there is some thing wrong with them. I simply stated what I find attractive as one voice in the world. Certainly all of you have things you don't find attractive that other do. It's not a statement what women should look like.

If you wan't to take my statement about the jaw line as some typical anit-woman opinion then what about this example: It's very common that women don't find men shorter than them selves attractive. Is it wrong to be a short man no. Is it something many women prefer yes.

Dude, you've had SO MANY chances to just say "my bad" and learn from your experiences here, but instead you just keep grabbing bigger shovels.

Learn from my experiences? I have expressed a an opinion, I don't need to change unless being presented a convincing argument, I don't find a strong jaw lines attractive, there is nothing wrong with that. And this "fucking dude" (RecLib rude btw) shouldn't have posted in this thread in the first place as one should obviously agree with the opinions here or get out. I won't make any more posts unless answering a quote. Please go on without me.

"I'm a straight dude and Abby is fucking gorgeous, and I'll fight to the death on top of this hill."

[Raist]

If I go out somewhere, standing usually. If I am home or a friends house or somewhere relaxed and clean, sitting always.

Somewhere... relaxed?

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot2-i-have-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/page-367#post-38947756

I was listenting to some tlou2 osts, and happened to look down and see a comment "remember when games were allowed to have hot women in them?"

(Image removed from quote.)

[HaughtyFrank]

Drama in reee's "post your favorite perverted character design images" "Why women criticise sexualised character designs |OT2| I have no pants and I must scream" thread:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot2-i-have-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/page-365#post-38799574
"I'm a straight dude and Abby is fucking gorgeous, and I'll fight to the death on top of this hill."

How ironic that sexualizing Abby is considered progressive. Maybe because they actually know that literally training your tits off isn't a hot look.

[Straight Edge]

Liking feminine women is misogynistic.
Like masculine women is progressive.
Hmmm I wonder why.

[Nintex]

I have a confession about my initial reaction to Abby, because

SPOILER
I did a pretty good job at keeping myself in the dark about the game, aside from hearing there was a trans character. When I saw adult Abby, I thought she was the trans character, but that also didn't make any sense to me because she seemed TOO feminine, and I seriously doubted hormone therapy would have been available post-apocalypse. Even more confused when you get child Abby who who was also presenting as female. Then you meet Lev, and I felt like a gigantic asshole for just fucking assuming a buff woman must be the trans character. I was still loving her character, trans or not, but I clearly need to be better in some ways.

Felt like I needed to say something about it so I can hold myself accountable.

 

[ShutUp]

"Saying what you do and do not find attractive is not discourse"

It literally fucking is. Idiots.

[ToxicAdam]

I understand the point, but it would be cool to have a daughter that grew up and didn't feel compelled to get implants to conform to some body standard. The only way that changes is if we change how dudes think.

[Don Rumata]

"Guys" is a perfectly usable term for a group of people regardless of identification, come on.

Many trans and NB folks, myself included, don't consider it to be ok.

You better say Hey penis-persons the next time

Or Phallic Pholks.

[BisMarckie]

Nah End of History is dumb, if you want to try and make predictions on the future you should be a historian not a political science guy.

Benjipwns annihilated once again.