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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27720 on: October 15, 2020, 06:59:22 PM »
all the furor for a game they'll buy at a discount/used to avoid FOMO
While not understanding that purchasing a used copy still drives demand for new ones.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27721 on: October 15, 2020, 07:02:42 PM »
Part of me hopes that when Biden wins the whiners feel 'safe' again and the paranoia infused crusade against works of fiction stop
or when Trump wins again they all spontaneously combust or leave the internet entirely.


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I cant buy this game with a clear concious.
I'll get yakuza or fenyx rising instead.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27722 on: October 15, 2020, 07:07:25 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/abby-russell-is-leaving-giant-bomb.307099/post-48592708
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I do wonder how they're going to spread her workload out.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

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« Reply #27723 on: October 15, 2020, 07:16:30 PM »
They didn't have the balls to ban Ubisoft, a company of actual rapists. I doubt they'll ban CDPR no matter how hard fuckshee mcfuckface rees

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27724 on: October 15, 2020, 07:19:36 PM »
Referring to Pondsmith:

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In a Eurogamer interview from a while back, he gave the textbook "I don't see transphobia", "I have trans friends", and "I work with trans people" defenses.

He's a transphobe.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27725 on: October 15, 2020, 07:33:17 PM »
Ah the old "i'm not a transphobe" defence.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27726 on: October 15, 2020, 08:19:23 PM »
Referring to Pondsmith:

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In a Eurogamer interview from a while back, he gave the textbook "I don't see transphobia", "I have trans friends", and "I work with trans people" defenses.

He's a transphobe.

Why can't these assholes ever quote the actual context? Oh right because the reality looks much more harmless

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Got it. One last question, I don't know how much influence you've had over the products and advertising in 2077, but there's a poster behind us now for Chromanticore, I don't know if you've seen this. There's currently a bit of a stink kicking up online about it because I think people... do you mind if we walk over? So basically you can see if, I mean, it's saying mix it up and there are lots of flavours you can mix but it clearly looks like a woman who has an enormous penis and I think some people are...

Mike Pondsmith: Uh, I don't see it, but okay that's me.

I think some people are viewing it as potentially transphobic. I was wondering if Chromanticore was anything you'd had any input on?

No, and to be honest I hadn't ever really run across anybody directly here who's got that problem with transphobia, and it sure as hell isn't something that happens at Talsorian. We have trans staffers, I have an insanely large number of friends so for me it's kind of like... what was the issue? So... I don't know. The problem with this is often people come to things with their own interpretations and they may bring those interpretations with them when they examine anything in their world. This could be bad art, this could be a message. It depends on how you interpret it, that's why art is art. It's not, you know, specifically reportage, so consequently the problem with these sorts of situations is that if you approach things in a particular way, you may see things that nobody sees, you may see things that somebody should see, and one of the reasons we have a multilevel culture is because we can see it differently.

Not necessarily to say that's wrong or right but you know, when I look at that, I don't see it. I see, you know, eh, it's not a really good drawing of some woman who's got a coke and my immediate thought was, you know, it's a bad ad, but as far as I know it's supposed to be a bad ad, it's not supposed to be a good ad. You know somebody was hammering it out in a sweatshop somewhere for five dollars.

In the game.

Mike Pondsmith: In the game, yeah. I always figured. So I don't think of it that way and you know, when you mentioned it that would have been the first time I'd even heard of that. What I know is people have brought a lot of interpretations to what we're doing, positive and negative, and they're going to do that and that's sort of inherent not just in whatever we do but also in the nature of Cyberpunk. It's like people arguing about representation of various groups - I kind of look at it as well, you know when I represent people in Cyberpunk they're from every walk of life and every single place and I'm not exactly taking a timeclock to see who's there, I'm going to go, 'does this reflect the world that I see or that I think probably should be out there?' and particularly the world and street - that should be a very complex, very open world because the street doesn't have room to pick sides and differentiate.

Thanks for your time, I hope you don't feel like I was ambushing you with that last question.

Mike Pondsmith: No, it was a bit of a surprise but basically the problem is at a certain point there will be no way or right answer if somebody comes at it with their interpretation. There will be mine and theirs. And there are gonna be people who say, 'you need to be doing this about it,' and I'm gonna say, 'I'm doing what I do about it.'

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-06-19-an-interview-with-cyberpunk-creator-mike-pondsmith

Honestly I don't believe they care about the ad, what theyre mad about is that they screamed transphobia and CDPR didn't instantly grovel and beg for forgiveness. They're mad that their opinion isn't considered the monolithic opinion of everyone trans

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27727 on: October 15, 2020, 08:27:32 PM »
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it's a bad ad, but as far as I know it's supposed to be a bad ad, it's not supposed to be a good ad
Providing a platform for a bad message is the same thing as having created and endorsing that message, Pondsmith. If that is your real name.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27728 on: October 15, 2020, 08:30:43 PM »
Has this "Mike Pondsmith" guy even Googled the fetishization of cyberpunk?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27729 on: October 15, 2020, 08:38:29 PM »
Ike Perlmutter is a friend of Trump. Therefore Era who loves Marvel movies more than life itself = Trump supporters. You hate to see it.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27730 on: October 15, 2020, 08:43:53 PM »

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« Reply #27731 on: October 15, 2020, 08:47:29 PM »
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fuck CDPR. Sorry for all trans people who have to constantly live with shit like this and assholes being horrible human beings, and then have to see 10 hype/news threads about Cyberpunk every day and be told "well ummmh actually the game isn't banned here sooo..."
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Man, it is something to see when some wack ass Japanese game got discussion ban on here and this shit still has multiple fucking threads and weekly hype thread.

Fuck this game, and fuck anyone who endorses this bs.
DO IT COWARDS

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27732 on: October 15, 2020, 08:49:36 PM »
neolibs mad!!  :lol :lol :lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-more-news-vote-for-joe-biden-who-sucks.307126/
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Weird how liberals were ok with the Lincoln Projects utterly transparent and obvious grift but get heated about a YouTube rando who isn't immediately deferential to the sainted Joe.
woopsie doodles :teehee
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27733 on: October 15, 2020, 09:05:37 PM »
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It's concerning how much you people don't want us criticizing biden cause of voter turnout. You're saying that we should hide and stop our criticism because it might turn people away?

How are we supposed to expect you and these voters that we're "somehow" turning away to start caring once he wins, if you and they can't even care right now?
:whew

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27734 on: October 15, 2020, 09:14:16 PM »
convinced Greg would sell out anyone to get ahead.

Lol Greg Miller's sudden passion for Joe Biden makes perfect sense now. Dude is the biggest shill in the world.

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« Reply #27735 on: October 15, 2020, 09:16:49 PM »

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« Reply #27736 on: October 15, 2020, 09:51:32 PM »
convinced Greg would sell out anyone to get ahead.

Lol Greg Miller's sudden passion for Joe Biden makes perfect sense now. Dude is the biggest shill in the world.

WAsn't he the Skyrim twirler?

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« Reply #27737 on: October 15, 2020, 10:10:14 PM »
Oh shit abby is leaving GB

 :rejoice

Finally cancelled for transface.
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« Reply #27738 on: October 15, 2020, 10:13:10 PM »
Also why is a women cosplaying a trans individual like that??? Seems kinda not okay.

The best part about this controversy is that they're mad that they're not seeing a real trans dick

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« Reply #27739 on: October 15, 2020, 10:16:12 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-twitter-account-promotes-cis-cosplayer-that-is-fetishizing-the-trans-experience.307021/post-48616981

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Me never actually following through with my decision to support GOG instead of Steam all those years ago actually paid off tenfold. Now I can gladly never use the service. I guess Steam will always be king.

This is fucking art.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27740 on: October 15, 2020, 10:19:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-twitter-account-promotes-cis-cosplayer-that-is-fetishizing-the-trans-experience.307021/post-48616981

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Me never actually following through with my decision to support GOG instead of Steam all those years ago actually paid off tenfold. Now I can gladly never use the service. I guess Steam will always be king.

This is fucking art.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27741 on: October 15, 2020, 10:19:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-twitter-account-promotes-cis-cosplayer-that-is-fetishizing-the-trans-experience.307021/post-48616981

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Me never actually following through with my decision to support GOG instead of Steam all those years ago actually paid off tenfold. Now I can gladly never use the service. I guess Steam will always be king.

This is fucking art.

I always knew something was off about that video game platform media hub . . .

top page transphobic porn

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« Reply #27742 on: October 15, 2020, 10:38:18 PM »
It is very amusing to see how racist right wing incel types hate Cyberpunk because it has black people and women with dyed hair in it.. while identity politics obsessed REE types hate it because there's a woman with a techno dick in it and because the twitter account made a joke a few years ago.

Horseshoe theory confirmed real

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« Reply #27743 on: October 15, 2020, 11:54:59 PM »
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I'd call CDPR tone-deaf, but they lost the benefit of the doubt a long time ago. They're a bigoted company and it's disgusting how much they're allowed to be promoted here. We ban discussion promoting/glorifying games by other problematic/hateful devs, why the fuck is CDPR different? Any mods willing to step up and answer that?

I take that as a no then, huh?

Can't really pretend you stand for trans rights while you knowingly allow what amounts to free publicity for a known transphobic organization. Those things are antithesis of one another.

Ban CDPR and CP 2077 you cowards  :rage

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« Reply #27744 on: October 15, 2020, 11:56:27 PM »
It is very amusing to see how racist right wing incel types hate Cyberpunk because it has black people and women with dyed hair in it.. while identity politics obsessed REE types hate it because there's a woman with a techno dick in it and because the twitter account made a joke a few years ago.

Horseshoe theory confirmed real

That the game is pissing off both groups is a compliment to CP 2077.

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« Reply #27745 on: October 16, 2020, 12:01:31 AM »
They've never set out any standards for what, why and how things come to be banned, not even maintaining an updated list of these things, so they have no viable answer to provide as to why CDPR/GOG/etc. can't be banned. It's pathetic.

This truly is the most transparent administration/moderation on a forum ever, just not in the way they probably intended.

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« Reply #27746 on: October 16, 2020, 12:15:05 AM »
They've never set out any standards for what, why and how things come to be banned, not even maintaining an updated list of these things, so they have no viable answer to provide as to why CDPR/GOG/etc. can't be banned. It's pathetic.

This truly is the most transparent administration/moderation on a forum ever, just not in the way they probably intended.


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I've posed this question, in similar threada that get closed they ask that you message them with the contact button, I've done that and I've not ever recieved as much as a "hey, this is a big topic. I've read it and ill let you know when I've run it past the team. Please have patience in the meantime"

So I dunno. Make a thread and get it locked for openly criticizing or something.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-twitter-account-promotes-cis-cosplayer-that-is-fetishizing-the-trans-experience.307021/page-11#post-48620389

seems like b-dubs told his janny squad to simply ignore any and all talk about banning shit that would seriously impact site traffic.  :teehee

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« Reply #27747 on: October 16, 2020, 12:22:08 AM »
It sure seems like these shit stirrers are far more worried about losing their ree account than they are about protecting trans rights by demanding CDPR discussion be banned  :hitler

If they were really about that life they would gladly eat a few bans to to get their voices heard  :kermit

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« Reply #27748 on: October 16, 2020, 12:30:04 AM »
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Given how big this game will be trying to ban/censor every thread about it would basically lead to so much drama and damage the site negatively that it probably isn't even worth contemplating.
There is so much to unpack behind that statement ^ being 100% true I wouldn’t even know where to start. I can not even imagine the i.am. A. GAMER meltdowns this site would have, there are faux allies and frauds all over this site. What am I saying though, Vidya Games are serious business.
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Given how big this game will be trying to ban/censor every thread about it would basically lead to so much drama and damage the site negatively that it probably isn't even worth contemplating.

You absolutely can stand for trans rights and still allow discussions about the game, which I think will be more beneficial in calling out any grievances in the first place.
sounds like a coward's answer

benjipwns

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« Reply #27749 on: October 16, 2020, 12:31:04 AM »
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Those fuckers are really angling to make the next Harry Potter Game or something.
Well they're certainly being just as transphobic as JKR: Queen of the TERFs.
:dead

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« Reply #27750 on: October 16, 2020, 12:32:20 AM »
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Like, and I hope I’m VERY wrong here, I can picture all the in game depictions of anyone Trans to be fetishized,
Encouraging violence against them , using hateful language, making them constantly scheming ( “ Trap” stereotypes only next gen!) and on and on.

and then all of that^ being defended with the usual defenses of “Well it’s the world being depicted idk what the big deal is” , the “ Im Having a blast!” Drive-bys, the burner accounts straight up gleefully trolling, “ asking questions” and on and on

Then everyday post release there will be threads on how amazing it is and nestled in between those threads will be the poor Trans voices trying to be heard over the apathetic gamer glee.

And people will still wonder why Trans members don’t feel safe.

Again, I hope I’m wrong

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« Reply #27751 on: October 16, 2020, 12:33:34 AM »
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Honestly the worst part of all this with the gtaness of this game I'm worried about the videos of people killing trans folks in this game just because.
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Yeah that's where my mind wandered too...
God forbid there's an actual mission depicting that.
:yikes

Averon

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« Reply #27752 on: October 16, 2020, 01:41:14 AM »
The mods probably thought them banning discussion of games would be limited to small weeb games with loli content or edgy games like Hatred that can be easily...hated or super sexualized games like DOAX. Basically, games small and niche enough to not be missed nor affect traffic. They probably never thought that bigger, triple AAA games that drive site traffic would also be targeted for bannings by the loud, annoying minority they seemingly only listen to. Now, Cerium and all have a problem: live up to the principles they purport to have or be be exposed as being two-faced to protect the site's traffic and Cerium's ad money.

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« Reply #27753 on: October 16, 2020, 01:56:33 AM »
It is very amusing to see how racist right wing incel types hate Cyberpunk because it has black people and women with dyed hair in it.. while identity politics obsessed REE types hate it because there's a woman with a techno dick in it and because the twitter account made a joke a few years ago.

Horseshoe theory confirmed real

they are all idpol obsessed racist incel ree types, sooo...


benjipwns

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« Reply #27754 on: October 16, 2020, 02:01:48 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-twitter-account-promotes-cis-cosplayer-that-is-fetishizing-the-trans-experience.307021/post-48626581
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Folks shouldn't have to carve out a safe space, they should already just be safe here.
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Simply put. It's why this site has already seen several minority groups leave due to not feeling welcomed or safe.

I know other communities on here that have gone pure discord and I have a feeling this is just going to keep happening. Nothing was learned from GAF.
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Honestly, going to sound like a broken record here but it's pretty clear this place in general isn't a safe space whatsoever for us.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27755 on: October 16, 2020, 02:30:07 AM »
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Feinstein dying of COVID would be awesome.

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« Reply #27756 on: October 16, 2020, 02:32:43 AM »
It feels like the site is perpetually reaching a boiling point with stuff like this, but the flare ups never seem to cause any real lasting damage.  I wonder if the 1-2 punch of Harry Potter and Cyberpunk will be enough.  I would say the best option would be to just ignore the vocal minority and continue with the inadequate half-measures of having big posts detailing the issue with these products that can be easily ignored.  The people upset with that will likely continue to scream into the void and not leave the site despite talking about how awful it is all the time.  Though I was genuinely shocked to see Mendisno nuke his account, so who knows.  Maybe we'll get a few more of those, but for the most part I doubt anything would happen.

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« Reply #27757 on: October 16, 2020, 02:37:45 AM »
The last time the inmates spoke out (Asian era members) they got banned with extreme prejudice, and those gangstas actually made a bunch of threads calling out the mods. Everyone else fell back once they saw those bans being handed out :lol

These CDPR/Harry Potter shit stirrers aren't even brave enough to eat those bans like Asianera did  :shaq

Zero chance of anything happening imo

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« Reply #27758 on: October 16, 2020, 02:54:42 AM »
The ones who say "nothing was learned from GAF" are the ones causing all the fucking problems that lead to communities going full discord or having learned to stay out of obvious ban bait topics. Which of course then pisses off the ones causing the problems because how dare people not wander into the traps they've set!

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« Reply #27759 on: October 16, 2020, 03:52:47 AM »
It feels like the site is perpetually reaching a boiling point with stuff like this, but the flare ups never seem to cause any real lasting damage.  I wonder if the 1-2 punch of Harry Potter and Cyberpunk will be enough.  I would say the best option would be to just ignore the vocal minority and continue with the inadequate half-measures of having big posts detailing the issue with these products that can be easily ignored.  The people upset with that will likely continue to scream into the void and not leave the site despite talking about how awful it is all the time.  Though I was genuinely shocked to see Mendisno nuke his account, so who knows.  Maybe we'll get a few more of those, but for the most part I doubt anything would happen.
It'll be a quintuple whammy

- Justice Amy
- PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X
- Cyberpunk
- US Presidential Election
- VGA's

God speed warriors  :salute
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« Reply #27760 on: October 16, 2020, 04:21:33 AM »
all the furor for a game they'll buy at a discount/used to avoid FOMO

Lol they'll be buying it brand new, just so they can 'check' the game for transphobia through gritted teeth and disgust of course.

 :reeeee

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« Reply #27761 on: October 16, 2020, 04:23:12 AM »
A lot of what goes on at ERA is performative. If they were true to their convictions, and ERA was as unsafe for "insert marginalized group here" as they constantly whine about, they would have either left for Discord, gone to some other community, or they would have raised hell until the mods either acquiesced to their demands or--far more likely--banned them. But they don't. They leave their bitching to approved whining threads, or make a post or two in other threads and only go further until after the mods approve of their shitposting. They all value their ERA accounts and access to the community too much to risk it. Which tells me they are mostly posers that just want to exert their power over the community through the mods.

Ketkat may have been insufferable, but she seemed to have been a true believer in the shit she spewed. Enough so that she ate a perm ban for it. Do you think someone like excel, Messo, or NoblesseOblige would go that far? I think not. Hell, look how quickly they forgotten and abandoned Kekat after staging a revolt to get her unbanned the first time.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27762 on: October 16, 2020, 05:35:30 AM »
Ketkat may have been insufferable, but she seemed to have been a true believer in the shit she spewed. Enough so that she ate a perm ban for it.
lol no.

Her first perm was just for being an obnoxious prick in unrelated discussions, her second perm was for going into the WHORESWHORESWHORES thread and saying "uhhh theres nothing wrong with women dressing sexy dipshits".

Neither of those were "FOR THE CAUSE!"

e: Actually, her first perm was for letting the cat out of the bag that there's a secret staff discord where they do all the things they're accused of doing in secret, that she wasn't supposed to be able to know existed let alone have access to, and busting open the mods "safe space" to the public.

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« Reply #27763 on: October 16, 2020, 06:13:13 AM »
Ketkat may have been insufferable, but she seemed to have been a true believer in the shit she spewed. Enough so that she ate a perm ban for it.
lol no.

Her first perm was just for being an obnoxious prick in unrelated discussions, her second perm was for going into the WHORESWHORESWHORES thread and saying "uhhh theres nothing wrong with women dressing sexy dipshits".

Neither of those were "FOR THE CAUSE!"

e: Actually, her first perm was for letting the cat out of the bag that there's a secret staff discord where they do all the things they're accused of doing in secret, that she wasn't supposed to be able to know existed let alone have access to, and busting open the mods "safe space" to the public.
fuck u dude the second one is hella for the cause

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27764 on: October 16, 2020, 06:13:40 AM »
To the bolded, I've always been less than happy with that Era declaration. I understand that ethical consumption is a myth, but if you are going to make any sort of effort whatsoever to not harm people with your purchases aren't electronic toys the place to start? We're not talking about people being unable to avoid purchasing a computer or a phone or clothing, we're talking about video games. If you are unwilling to sacrifice even a luxury pleasure item like that for the sake of not supporting bigotry, I think maybe you should feel bad about it. I think that's ethically wrong.

A gaming experience is not worth preserving at the expense of marginalized groups, and if supposedly progressive places like Era aren't willing to take any sort of stand against a game just because it's big and exciting, what are we even doing here? My thinking basically boils down to this:

People that deserve a safe space:

❌ Fragile gamers who want to rationalize funding bigots.
✅ Marginalized groups that face adversity and outright hostility, especially in gaming circles.

It's become clear that Era would rather protect the former than the latter, as long as the former is coy enough not to utter an outright slur.

Your problem isn't that you can't have "a safe space" thread to whine about whatever the fuck random thoughts you are projecting without having to justify why you have those thoughts because you. are. so. tired.

It's that you want to force those thoughts onto others as unassailable dogma and don't want to justify or defend your position, or have your "concerns" "dismissed".

Maybe a fucking VIDEOGAME DISCUSSION FORUM is not the """""safe space""""" you think it should be, and maybe if you do not want to defend your thoughts and beliefs to others who disagree you shouldn't be confronting them with those thoughts and beliefs as though they are objective truths.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27765 on: October 16, 2020, 06:15:13 AM »
Ketkat may have been insufferable, but she seemed to have been a true believer in the shit she spewed. Enough so that she ate a perm ban for it.
lol no.

Her first perm was just for being an obnoxious prick in unrelated discussions, her second perm was for going into the WHORESWHORESWHORES thread and saying "uhhh theres nothing wrong with women dressing sexy dipshits".

Neither of those were "FOR THE CAUSE!"

e: Actually, her first perm was for letting the cat out of the bag that there's a secret staff discord where they do all the things they're accused of doing in secret, that she wasn't supposed to be able to know existed let alone have access to, and busting open the mods "safe space" to the public.
fuck u dude the second one is hella for the cause

I mean... I guess? But it would have been a permaban just for leaking staff secrets even if those staff secrets were that they think bronies are creepy weirdos or whatever.
the only consistent moderation era has is that the moderation are protected.
the actual ban was something like hostility, history of histories yada yada yada

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27766 on: October 16, 2020, 06:51:59 AM »
Ketkat may have been insufferable, but she seemed to have been a true believer in the shit she spewed. Enough so that she ate a perm ban for it.
lol no.

Her first perm was just for being an obnoxious prick in unrelated discussions, her second perm was for going into the WHORESWHORESWHORES thread and saying "uhhh theres nothing wrong with women dressing sexy dipshits".

Neither of those were "FOR THE CAUSE!"

e: Actually, her first perm was for letting the cat out of the bag that there's a secret staff discord where they do all the things they're accused of doing in secret, that she wasn't supposed to be able to know existed let alone have access to, and busting open the mods "safe space" to the public.
fuck u dude the second one is hella for the cause

I mean... I guess? But it would have been a permaban just for leaking staff secrets even if those staff secrets were that they think bronies are creepy weirdos or whatever.
the only consistent moderation era has is that the moderation are protected.
the actual ban was something like hostility, history of histories yada yada yada
i'm not talking about the dumbass staff secret discord i'm talking bout defending anime titties :salute

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27767 on: October 16, 2020, 07:40:41 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/v-for-vendetta.307435/


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I had seen this movie when it came out 15 years ago and while I liked it, I didn’t honestly appreciate its brilliance, so today while browsing late night Netflix, decided to go for a rewatch.

HOLY FUCK

I’m at loss of words as to how forward looking this movie was - the xenophobia, religious alt-right movement, pandemic, curfews, protests, loss of rights, I mean this movie is so bang on to the world we are living today. Everything from the writing, dialogue, music, direction to the performances is extraordinary. This is such a masterpiece. If you haven’t seen this or if it has been sometime since you last watched it, give it a watch.

HOLY FUCK

Somebody tell this guy about George Orwell.
Oi Oi

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27768 on: October 16, 2020, 08:05:09 AM »
To the bolded, I've always been less than happy with that Era declaration. I understand that ethical consumption is a myth, but if you are going to make any sort of effort whatsoever to not harm people with your purchases aren't electronic toys the place to start? We're not talking about people being unable to avoid purchasing a computer or a phone or clothing, we're talking about video games. If you are unwilling to sacrifice even a luxury pleasure item like that for the sake of not supporting bigotry, I think maybe you should feel bad about it. I think that's ethically wrong.

A gaming experience is not worth preserving at the expense of marginalized groups, and if supposedly progressive places like Era aren't willing to take any sort of stand against a game just because it's big and exciting, what are we even doing here? My thinking basically boils down to this:

People that deserve a safe space:

❌ Fragile gamers who want to rationalize funding bigots.
✅ Marginalized groups that face adversity and outright hostility, especially in gaming circles.

It's become clear that Era would rather protect the former than the latter, as long as the former is coy enough not to utter an outright slur.

Your problem isn't that you can't have "a safe space" thread to whine about whatever the fuck random thoughts you are projecting without having to justify why you have those thoughts because you. are. so. tired.

It's that you want to force those thoughts onto others as unassailable dogma and don't want to justify or defend your position, or have your "concerns" "dismissed".

Maybe a fucking VIDEOGAME DISCUSSION FORUM is not the """""safe space""""" you think it should be, and maybe if you do not want to defend your thoughts and beliefs to others who disagree you shouldn't be confronting them with those thoughts and beliefs as though they are objective truths.

Games and electronic toys are a luxury that should be ignored for the right causes and more important issues.

Also, we should be catered to by those games and electronic toys and the importance of their presence and positioning towards our identity cannot be understated.

 :wut

Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27769 on: October 16, 2020, 08:39:28 AM »
Time to create another forum

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/

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Meh. Say whatever you want. They make a game I like, I buy it. Don't care about other stuff.

 :salute
« Last Edit: October 16, 2020, 08:45:47 AM by ldcommando (notthegafone) »

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27770 on: October 16, 2020, 08:54:34 AM »
Jesus, they're absolutely obsessed with that game. Maybe resetrans people* ought not to make everything about themselves, to the point that they'll happily reduce transgender identities to a penis in a leotard if it suits them. Maybe if they have this much energy to expend on minor advertising material for a videogame, their lives aren't actually the hellscapes they would have you believe. Maybe they should shut the fuck up and accept that nobody can make you 'safe' if the danger is inside your own head.

*One thing about those shrieking harpies is that criticism pointed towards them can also have a collateral effect on normal trans people. It needs to be possible to criticise those twats without upsetting good people and care should be taken to remember that reset trans members =/= trans people. Trans people are mostly cool, reset members are the problem.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27771 on: October 16, 2020, 08:59:24 AM »
I’m not trans obviously so I’m not clued into the experience of a trans person. But I have never understood the problem with the mix it up add. Like one of the point is that it mocks the trans experience as it cheapens the concept of changing genders.....

Well yeah that’s the point. Cyperpunk is trash and part of the fiction of it is that the idea of being human is just changing rapidly and becoming whatever that doing something as heavy as changing genders has become cheap. People can do it on a whim. They can augment themselves to their desires. Cyperpunk is about how cheap human life has become in a world unhinged and with no limits  corporations or technology. Like read Transmetropolitan if you need to.

Now I understand in real life changing gender is a huge life altering choice. That you can’t take lightly. But that’s the thing, Cyperpunk is satire. Life has become so irrelevant, tacky, and cheap that big choices like that are thoughtless. It’s not a good thing. Cyperpunk fiction never presents this as good. I don’t think things like that are put in the game to mock trans people.

Has CDPR said some dumb shit on Twitter? Sure. Do they have people working that probably don’t care about trans issues or are probably not too aware about them? Probably. But I don’t think are trying to be malicious.

SmokyDave

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27772 on: October 16, 2020, 09:01:10 AM »
...then there's the bit where gender isn't supposed to be defined by the presence or absence of sex organs of any type. Kind of important, but needs to be conveniently forgotten for a while.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27773 on: October 16, 2020, 09:07:53 AM »
Cyperpunk is about how cheap human life has become in a world unhinged and with no limits  corporations or technology. Like go outside if you need to.

Fixed  :killme
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27774 on: October 16, 2020, 09:18:44 AM »
CP 2077 is gonna break Reee.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27775 on: October 16, 2020, 09:18:55 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/v-for-vendetta.307435/


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I had seen this movie when it came out 15 years ago and while I liked it, I didn’t honestly appreciate its brilliance, so today while browsing late night Netflix, decided to go for a rewatch.

HOLY FUCK

I’m at loss of words as to how forward looking this movie was - the xenophobia, religious alt-right movement, pandemic, curfews, protests, loss of rights, I mean this movie is so bang on to the world we are living today. Everything from the writing, dialogue, music, direction to the performances is extraordinary. This is such a masterpiece. If you haven’t seen this or if it has been sometime since you last watched it, give it a watch.

HOLY FUCK

Somebody tell this guy about George Orwell.

:rofl

What exactly did they think the movie was about in the first place.

joeboy101

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27776 on: October 16, 2020, 09:25:26 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/

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Trolling this thread will result in a severe ban. Please observe the following guidelines.
Do not dismiss or handwave the concerns raised by this thread or announce that they don’t bother you.
Do not come into this thread to talk about how hyped you are for the game.
Do not come into this thread to let everyone know that you’re "still buying the game." Do not litigate your purchasing habits. Drive-by posting will result in a ban.
By the same token, avoid sweeping generalizations about people who are excited to play the game.
Do not engage in personal attacks on other members, direct or indirect, whether they’re participating in this thread or not.

Sooo, what exactly is the discussion here? There’s no other position that is allowed. You can’t talk about anything except outrage that can only be accepted towards the company that can only be vilified.

Plus I love how they are always decrying drive by posting or banning for such, when most of the posts are drive by postings. It’s just they don’t want posts that go against the thread’s direction. So long as you have the correct direction to your snarky bullshit, your good.

Nintex

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27777 on: October 16, 2020, 09:30:33 AM »
#1
Preface: To avoid the usual suspects I want to start out by saying that you are not being shamed for your purchase of Cyberpunk 2077. If you feel slightly bad about buying the game as a result of the issues being highlighted then, honestly, good. Interfacing with problematic products should cause us a degree of doubt, and it should be that that's a driver to reflect on the issues raised and push for products without them. If you still plan to purchase CP77 then the request is that you remain vocal about its issues. CDPR and their games do not benefit from being transphobic and moving toward games that are inclusive of, rather than exploitative of, trans identities would allow us all to enjoy the worlds they create.
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joeboy101

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27778 on: October 16, 2020, 09:42:46 AM »
Quote from: persephone
not that i disagree with you but please don't refer to gay ppl and lesbians as "homosexuals" it's considered derogatory

Since when?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #27779 on: October 16, 2020, 09:44:05 AM »
"Whoops, Biden's crushing Trump in the polls. Quick, denounce the dictator-in-chief that we've been treating with kid gloves since he started his presidential run!"

Didn't the New York Times reveal Trump's taxes? I don't really understand their hatred for certain publications