Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[headwalk]

Not everyone deserves empathy.

that's kind of the whole point

when people don't deserve something but you give it to them anyway

like people who don't "deserve" government handouts because they didn't work for it, like so many on the right like to say, but you give it to them anyway because it's the decent thing to do

it's so easy to give empathy to people who "deserve" it as to be practically worthless

give empathy to someone who might be surprised to receive it and you both gain from it

i don't even see it as some kumbaya thing, empathy makes my own life easier because it makes sense of other people's opinions and decisions. ree's lack of it not only means that they have turned into a purtianical social media death squad, but that they are also utterly blind to when people are only performatively engaging in their definition of MORAL GOOD for self promotion.

[benjipwns]

User banned (permanent); troll account

i swear he should have been banned 4 years before this happened wow twitter finally isn't distinguished mentally-challenged finally they put their foot down to this orange fat fuck of a man child

[benjipwns]

I wonder how many thousands of lives could have been saved, had Twitter grown some balls and perma'd his account several years back. Charlottesville, at the very latest, should have been the last straw — and that was 3 years, 4 months, 26 days ago.

Thousands of lives saved from the President not shitposting on Twitter?

[OnlyRegret]

thousands of lives lost in the gamer warz

[benjipwns]

User Banned (1 Month) - Inflammatory Generalizations and Antagonizing others; History of similar

Y’all are starting to sound like trump. Like it or not the ps5 starts at $400.

[benjipwns]

User Banned (1 week): Inflammatory generalization about the community

Good luck with that. Era is a toxic fucking place full of shitty, vile people. This thread looks no different than all the Etika threads, except people are taking the liberty to also shit on his wife for no justifiable reason at all. It takes a suicide for the miserable losers on this site to show any empathy for someone who's very clearly troubled.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

User Banned (1 week): Inflammatory generalization about the community

Good luck with that. Era is a toxic fucking place full of shitty, vile people. This thread looks no different than all the Etika threads, except people are taking the liberty to also shit on his wife for no justifiable reason at all. It takes a suicide for the miserable losers on this site to show any empathy for someone who's very clearly troubled.

yeah, thats actually an extremely unfair thing to say.

They still don't show sympathy even after a suicide.

[Tektonic]

can't believe the insurrections timing. overshadowing the main event

Each year on January 7th, National Bobblehead Day recognizes a day of celebration for all spring-connected head bobbing figurines.

re has really dropped the ball on this...

although neogaf has an old thread on this:
 

[benjipwns]

I recognized several prominent Gamergaters in the footage from inside the Capitol.

you did?

[benjipwns]

Trump is the reason the birther movement existed.

lol wat, he was like five years late to that (like everything else! oh snap)

[Ghoul]

Full video goes exactly how I thought it would.

Did it try to join a real wolf pack and get eaten by them? That's my expectation. Please tell me I'm right.

Unfortunately not.

[pgtl_10]

I can't help but be offended by the notion we should reach out, relate, and humanize these kinds of people. I mostly keep my mouth shut on these matters because I grew weary of saying the same things over and over the last few years, but I've mustered up the mettle to talk about this again in light of these events. This is not directed at anyone here or a response to anything in particular, but this has been on my mind a lot the last couple of days - and they've been long days.

I do not believe empathy can be extended to all people at all times. I don't say this as some kind of ethical mandate, I mean that the mechanism of empathy requires discretion to function. People represent irreconcilable forces. People are vehicles for their actions and ideology. The way they act and the things they do are summarily the definition of that person's existence. You cannot have empathy for Neo Nazis and Jews, gays, and black people at the same time because empathy for the first party precludes and nullifies empathy for the others. Even if you don't think so, it does. Because your empathy becomes hollow. It becomes insincere. By showing empathy to the worst of the world, you are denying empathy to the people they hurt. You are choosing compassion for the oppressor over compassion for the oppressed. I think the idea that you can hold everyone in your heart in equal regard is pure romance. I think it is harmful and counter-productive.

I understand that a lot of people who have empathy for oppressive actors and humanize them in the wake of their actions think it is the right and decent thing to do. They balk at the idea it is morally reprehensible to show compassion towards another person. They will chastise you for not showing decency and not making an effort. They will shake their head in disapproval that you could be so callous as to not relate with the people who hate you. For years I've suffered people carrying water for hostile forces and rehabilitating their behavior. They say have some pity, have some empathy, how are we supposed to reach these people? Shame on you, they say, for not caring about them or what happens to them. This is why we are so divided, they say. Perhaps I'm no better than them.


I spent years trying to reach my mother and father. I was still pretty young and financially insecure. I had nowhere else to go and I lived in their house. We had many problems that were non-political. There were many reasons I had not to trust my mother, who hurt me over and over. There were many reasons to fear my father, whose abuse I have never recovered from. But I believed that I was their son and if they loved me they would hear me. So I tried to relate, reach out, and have conversations with them all through 2015 and 2016. I thought some of these conversations went well. There were times where I felt like we were really understanding each other. There were times where I felt like I was speaking to my father as an equal and to my mother as a friend. While I never knew what was going to happen, there were a lot of times I had hope.

But it did not work. I did not reach them. All that happened was that I got them to play nice with me - an act they put on for my benefit. They loved their son, after all, so they humored me. They would talk to me about what I cared about, what mattered to me, and why I felt they were wrong, and then nod politely and carry on. Because they did not actually care what I had to say. They did not actually care what I believed. They did not care at all when I attempted to show them why what they believed was so dangerous and selfish and hurtful. Because to them, the world made perfect sense and they already know everything there is to know. I was the one who didn't get it. But they heard me out and pretended they cared because they knew they were already right, I was already wrong, and I didn't actually matter. We were playing pretend.

I had a lot at stake here. I had to either reach my mother and father or I had to leave. There was nothing I ever tried to do that I was more afraid of failing. But I could not reach them, so I left. I moved out shortly after the election. Nothing I ever said or did mattered. They watched me move out obliviously.

For the years that followed I did not speak to my father, but I occasionally spoke to my mother. I left the door open for a long time to reconcile if they ever came to their senses. If everything we talked about ever landed with them and if losing me as a result of their politics ever registered, I wanted to be there to pick up the pieces. There was no world where I preferred to not have a relationship with my parents. So I would see my mother monthly. I would wait to hear what she had to say, but I never led the witness. I wanted her to bring it up on her own. I wanted her to show me she knew why I was upset. But she didn't. As months became years she would beg me to tell her what was wrong and why I didn't talk to them anymore. She would make random guesses about arbitrary things (my father, for example, suspected I left the family because I broke his drill and was embarrassed about it). I died inside over and over as I sat across from my mother who cluelessly ignored everything I ever talked about as important to me.

I got married in 2019 and made one last attempt to reconcile before the wedding. I went back to the house for the first time in three years. I spoke to my father for the first time since then. We sat at the table and we started to talk. When I finally broached the subject of their politics, they were aghast and appalled. That was the reason I no longer spoke to them? All this time just was "just politics"? They laid into me like a petulant child. They mocked and antagonized me for letting something superfluous come between us. They accused me of deception and manipulation and still not "getting it". It was a proper family meltdown. My father did not attend my wedding and my mother just sat there silently. We have not spoken a word to one another since. They labeled me a radical, smeared me to my extended family, and I lost everyone. It is over. I have no family. I have my partner, and I have their sibling, but they are orphans. We have nobody left in this world but each other. It is a lonely world.

I did everything I could to prevent this from happening. I started early, I met them on their level, I asked them questions and heard their stories and tried to meet them half way on issues. I made an honest and earnest attempt to bring my parents out of their world and into another. It didn't even have to be mine, it just had to be better. Something safer. Something that didn't hurt people and threaten the livelihood of others. It did not get better though, it only got worse. My mother is a Qanon anti-vaxxer with a Parler account. My father is a virulently angry dictator worshipper who wants to violently establish a new world order. They are waiting for me to someday come apologize to them.


I don't believe you can reach these people anymore. Their worldview does not allow it. It is not a worldview of confusion or misunderstanding, it's rooted in absolute certainty. You cannot teach something to someone who is this closed off to information and so strongly opposed to your input. It is just not possible. To convince someone of something they need to be capable of doubt. They have to be open to the possibility, however small, that they are incorrect about something. But these people are not these things. So you can waste all the energy you want trying to connect with them and find a middle ground, but all you're doing is helping them advance themselves and hurt more people.

The only thing that changes the mind of someone like this is epiphany. There needs to be a moment where their system fails. There needs to be a sudden awakening of consciousness where they witness something or experience something that changes how they feel about something. Then they are open. Then they can be reached. But until then, that wall is impenetrable. I do not believe you can force that epiphany. If it can be done, I never figured it out. I tried so hard to. I lived the experience. Every day for years I tried to no avail. It is the hardest I ever tried at anything.

And I know I am not alone. It isn't 2015. It's 2021. We've been living alongside and contending with these people - neighbors, coworkers, family members - for half a decade. People have been trying and failing to reach and deradicalize people this entire time and more people voted for Trump in 2020 than they did in 2016. Accept that you're being played and stop giving so much energy to people who hate you. I tried, I was beaten, and I have lost my will. So if you want to keep trying, power to you. But don't act like you care about me when you choose to care about them. You can't do both.

I am always open to helping someone who is open to being helped. It is never too late for someone to turn it around. But you can't make them do it and I certainly don't think you should pity them if they don't. I don't expend my limited energy on compassion for them anymore. There are other people, namely their victims and the people they marginalize, who deserve my whole heart instead.

 

So he has problems with his parents because they don't share his politics?

Maybe he's the problem?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

In these dire times that have ben wrought upon us by corruption, lets.........solve it by bribery?

[benjipwns]

Quick! We gotta impeach him before we can't anymore!

[benjipwns]

User banned (1 month): inflammatory generalisation; long history of related infractions

not trying to generalize but most people into heavy metal music turn out to be pieces of shits so not really surprising.

[benita]

User banned (1 month): inflammatory generalisation; long history of related infractions

not trying to generalize but most people into heavy metal music turn out to be pieces of shits so not really surprising.

Replying to that post:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iced-earth-guitarist-jon-schaffer-among-trump-supporters-who-stormed-capitol.357175/post-55744498

User warned: inappropriate comparison

This is literally "I'm not a racist but...".

 

[clothedmacuser]

How much do you want to bet that some of the local embassies have sent agents to secure intel from the government buildings? Absolutely insane that the police would let people casually search through Pelosi's PC.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/terrorist-invasion-of-capitol-building-by-trump-maga-supporters-shots-fired-senate-evacuated-4-dead-officer-alive-see-threadmarks-for-updates.356653/post-55637206

They never did know what embassies are

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/newsweek-documents-stolen-from-capitol-may-contain-national-security-risks.1585704/post-261889160




I went out of my way to link because this thread if fucking insane.



what the fuck happened to tesseract I keep seeing likes on the craziest shit and the posts are bonkers?

[benjipwns]

I think he's just trying to promote the discourse, like our filler does.

[nudemacusers]

User banned (1 month): inflammatory generalisation; long history of related infractions

not trying to generalize but most people into heavy metal music turn out to be pieces of shits so not really surprising.

Replying to that post:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iced-earth-guitarist-jon-schaffer-among-trump-supporters-who-stormed-capitol.357175/post-55744498

User warned: inappropriate comparison

This is literally "I'm not a racist but...".

 

metal is for dum dums so it kinda fits tbh

[Potato]

 

[Pissy F Benny]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

any private business should be free to ban them if they see fit

just as they are with klan hoods and swastikas

but they would never be banned by the government, the first amendment is too powerful

everyone's favorite the aclu spent years making sure the klan could march under the first amendment

Yes, the aclu do valuable and important work, you utter fucking dolt

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-there-foot-binding-in-monster-hunter-rise.357580/

 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

User Banned (2 Months): Inflammatory Accusations and Hostility Over Multiple Posts; Prior Severe Ban for Trolling in a Serious Topic

Instead of being glad they weren't as violent as ISIS etc., you call them stupid because they didn't go the extra mile? Like, maybe they didn't want to go to that level, because it's really fucked up?

What the hell am I reading

What

You're coming in here to defend these people?

And then judge me?

2 month ban for being right.
Its a fucking ridiculous take in the first place, and saying there wasn't actual violence was because the people storming capitol hill didn't want to take that step, not because they're all too stupid to understand how fire works is hardly a fucking defence.

[Tasty]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-there-foot-binding-in-monster-hunter-rise.357580/

 

Dude thought he was gonna hit big at the Outrage Olympics

[Straight Edge]

Ban should read “disagreeing with Excelspreadsheet”

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-there-foot-binding-in-monster-hunter-rise.357580/

 

I'm surprised no one went with "Just because there is an ingame explanation for the visual similarity doesn't make it okay" followed by a youtube video of that guy with the Thermian argument.

[Uncle]

yes remember Quiet had in-game explanations for her unique condition

[I'm a Puppy!]

yes remember Quiet had in-game explanations for her unique condition

I, for one, was ashamed of the things I said once I learned.

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-there-foot-binding-in-monster-hunter-rise.357580/

 

I'm surprised no one went with "Just because there is an ingame explanation for the visual similarity doesn't make it okay" followed by a youtube video of that guy with the Thermian argument.

Googled “Thermian argument” and the first result is a neogaf thread. NOT SLICK

[thetylerrob]

How the fuck is that Kim and Kanye thread still open? A bunch of prominent posters displaying ableism, misogyny, and even homophobia? I guess mods really don't care about black people.

[HaughtyFrank]

Sometimes the pieces really fall into place.

This is the guy who is all over the "No titties" thread:

Just to continue the manga/anime theme, I'll say that Senku from Dr. Stone is touted as ace by many, including my ace girlfriend.

[Snoopycat_]

How the fuck is that Kim and Kanye thread still open? A bunch of prominent posters displaying ableism, misogyny, and even homophobia? I guess mods really don't care about black people.

I’ve said many times that NuGaf is literally just a collection of Ree’s outcasts/dregs. I think sanctioned hate threads like these really highlight the facade Ree’s male feminist “allies” and “progressives” hide behind.

[Uncle]

really it's more about the desire to hate things all day and stay amped to 11 regardless of target 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

really it's more about the desire to hate things all day and stay amped to 11 regardless of target 

its also so performative and trying to one-up each other that things just end up at ridiculous levels, and then start from that level next time.

"Hey guys, what do you think about some twitch rando?"
step 1: "Who?"
step 2: "Oh, well, I just checked them out and they retweeted pewdiepie once, PRETTY SUS"
step 3: "Yeah, I just scoured through 147 hours of their streams and they said something was gay once in 2003, fucking homophobe"
step 4: "Here is my compendium of why this dude is an alt right homophobis piece of shit, who is platforming literal nazis and is also transphobic because they said they like harry potter once"
step 5: "thread locked, we do not provide a platform for nazis"

[BIONIC]

Sometimes the pieces really fall into place.

This is the guy who is all over the "No titties" thread:

Just to continue the manga/anime theme, I'll say that Senku from Dr. Stone is touted as ace by many, including my ace girlfriend.

My ace girlfriend. Who currently doesn’t live with me. Who currently is in another state. Who I me met online. Who doesn’t actually exist.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/having-to-work-with-trump-psychos-is-not-fun.357691/

ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS

REPORT THEM TO THE FEDS

[Nintex]

Not everyone attempted a coup

Some of them were there at the MAGA CIVIL WAR and FIGHT FOR TRUMP rally to uh... listen to the YMCA

[Nintex]

lmao GameXplain paid their 'employees' $1 an hour 

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/terrorist-invasion-of-capitol-building-by-trump-maga-supporters-shots-fired-senate-evacuated-5-dead-including-cop-see-threadmarks-for-updates.356653/post-55820818

See: the Trump "Gorilla Channel" thing from a few years back.

Parody and humor is fine, but if significant numbers of people are earnestly confusing it for the truth, then the creator has fucked up.

If I'm too dumb to know it's parody then it's their fault.


I do like seeing Era finally realize that maybe, just maybe, the cops were overwhelmed by the event and they aren't the bad ones here.

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/terrorist-invasion-of-capitol-building-by-trump-maga-supporters-shots-fired-senate-evacuated-5-dead-including-cop-see-threadmarks-for-updates.356653/post-55820818

See: the Trump "Gorilla Channel" thing from a few years back.

Parody and humor is fine, but if significant numbers of people are earnestly confusing it for the truth, then the creator has fucked up.

If I'm too dumb to know it's parody then it's their fault.


I do like seeing Era finally realize that maybe, just maybe, the cops were overwhelmed by the event and they aren't the bad ones here.

From what I read there were some off-duty cops and military guys among the protesters that could simply wave their badges to get access to restricted areas.
As is usual with these sorts of protests the police often has undercover cops among the protesters to keep a close eye on things.
The cops holding the line probably thought they were on their side of riot control and not Roger Stone's goons. 

[Potato]

Sometimes the pieces really fall into place.

This is the guy who is all over the "No titties" thread:

Just to continue the manga/anime theme, I'll say that Senku from Dr. Stone is touted as ace by many, including my ace girlfriend.

Imagine having an "ace" girlfriend and thinking you're anything but roommates...

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Imagine thinking your ace girlfriend isn't just using you for rent money and fucking everything that moves behind your back

[close]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-i-respond-to-this-email-from-a-university-lecturer.356080/

ITT shitty era poster acts like shitty era poster IRL, fucks up his academic career, prepares to double down

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

PROTIP: if you're writing a graded paper called a 'learning log' that is worth 15% of your overall curriculum marks;

DO:
discuss what texts you have been studying, and how they have contributed to your overall understanding of the subject

DO NOT:
complain about your teacher being a mean old grumpasaurus who hurt your fee-fees ;_;

[Tektonic]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-i-respond-to-this-email-from-a-university-lecturer.356080/

ITT shitty era poster acts like shitty era poster IRL, fucks up his academic career, prepares to double down

love all the "wasn't it anonymous" comments... life ain't an internet forum reee-ers

[HaughtyFrank]

PROTIP: if you're writing a graded paper called a 'learning log' that is worth 15% of your overall curriculum marks;

DO:
discuss what texts you have been studying, and how they have contributed to your overall understanding of the subject

DO NOT:
complain about your teacher being a mean old grumpasaurus who hurt your fee-fees ;_;

So I emailed him, and my academic advisor. Then we got the feedback for that learning log back today and I got a 7 out of 100. I’m not saying it was a perfect grade piece of work, but my average grade over the past three semesters is 75%.

 

Why would personal feedback even be graded? Dumbass clearly failed the topic of the assignment.

[Potato]

Holy shit at the terrible advice in that thread.

He graded your feedback log....?

Should go nuclear like I suggested. Lots of such self important douchebags in academia unfortunately. I would switch over to a new course for the next semester like yesterday.

Reply with your honest feedback describing what you wrote in this post, and the most important part:
CC the department head of his department
CC any faculty head he has
CC the dean of student relations or any other student-oriented interest group on campus

That will protect you and fuck him over if he was out of line.

But wait, we have someone using logic instead of emotion

I’m going to go against the grain here and say you misunderstood what the assignment was and ended up thinking it was feedback when it was actually meant to be about what you learnt and took away from the module, maybe what more you would have wanted to go into detail. Instead you critiqued him on what was actually put as a doss assignment meant to get easy marks and I really doubt the university is going to stand for you when you give lecturer feedback in a marked assignment which if marked you knew your lecturer would read. Universities don’t ask for lecturer appraisals in marked assignments. You sound young so maybe a bit naive which is why you got in this situation but honestly I’d apologise because on the lecturer’s side it looks like you just insulted him in a marked assignment you’d know he’d read that wasn’t about lecturer feedback

How long until they are banned?

[BikeJesus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-hitman-3-previews-first-2-levels.357637/post-55804747

ACG was also raving about it, apart from the PSVR implementation.

Mod Edit: Link to banned YouTube channel removed. 

This shit is pathetic

[Tektonic]

ACG banned? maybe his "no sponser bullcrap" offends the re-premium experience? or the "eh, maybe subscribe" line rankles the wannabe twitchers who get 2 or 3 viewers to their mumblecore fests

[paprikastaude]

A good day for social media? Not in nintenyearold's land

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-gamexplain-members-talk-about-troubles-with-the-company-heavy-crunch-low-pay.357772/

Pretty sure these guys were mods too. Of course resetti is super soft on them, after all they are still the messengers of their favorite toy maker's gospel.

e:

Wasn’t the main person a leftist? Shows how quickly things can change when you are a boss.

[Uncle]

orrrrr almost no one on "the good side" always acts perfectly and 100% in line with all policies espoused by the rest of them?

they'll be shocked to learn there are nice rebublicans that pay their employees fairly too 

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-i-respond-to-this-email-from-a-university-lecturer.356080/post-55842361

It does make sense the assignment was morso for the content of the class instead of the treatment by the professor. Though the fact the professor would score them so low without consultation or any reach out, and the fact OP posts this thread not knowing what's going on doesn't look great. The professor would know they clearly did not understand the instructions given, if everything was done in good faith. If it's clear there was a big misunderstanding third party mediation is the way to go. If what your saying is true, the professor failed to communicate or the OP mis-framed this thread.

Except that everyone else in the class understood the assignment and got their easy 15%.

These people are so fucking sheltered and completely unprepared for real life. Fucking hell!
   

[BikeJesus]

Always thought that guy in charge was weird

Jesus Christ kill yourself you performative virtue signaling fucking loser.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-gamexplain-members-talk-about-troubles-with-the-company-heavy-crunch-low-pay.357772/post-55842181

[DJ Bedroom]

These people lay awake at night thinking about these guys
https://twitter.com/KingPajamas/status/1347725835760001024

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/533460-video-surfaces-of-orgeon-gop-rep-holding-capitol-door-open-for

[Don Rumata]

These people lay awake at night thinking about these guys
https://twitter.com/KingPajamas/status/1347725835760001024

So they can join The Bore.   

[clothedmacuser]

User Banned (2 Months): Inflammatory Accusations and Hostility Over Multiple Posts; Prior Severe Ban for Trolling in a Serious Topic

Instead of being glad they weren't as violent as ISIS etc., you call them stupid because they didn't go the extra mile? Like, maybe they didn't want to go to that level, because it's really fucked up?

What the hell am I reading

What

You're coming in here to defend these people?

And then judge me?

 

Such a pointless and weak ban for a pointless and weak disagreement.      Why do they submit to Exel?  She's an idiot!

2 month ban for being right.
Its a fucking ridiculous take in the first place, and saying there wasn't actual violence was because the people storming capitol hill didn't want to take that step, not because they're all too stupid to understand how fire works is hardly a fucking defence.

And then judge me?

 


Yes.  People jude strange weirdos who don't have human interaction skills and blithely pretend everyone else in the entire world is wrong.

[joeboy101]

Welp, looks like the Cyberpunk sticky got unstuck and the OT moved to Hangouts.

 

Turn out the lights, the party's over.

[joeboy101]

These people lay awake at night thinking about these guys
https://twitter.com/KingPajamas/status/1347725835760001024

Rent free. Still no description of exactly what Black Chamber did wrong over there, other than giving the staff and scapegoat on a platter.