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« Reply #180 on: June 04, 2020, 05:28:59 PM »
Staring with envy at the bottom left corner of that chart.

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« Reply #181 on: June 04, 2020, 05:39:56 PM »
Suspect that chart is showing two things: developing countries can't effectively put a fifth of their economy on ice in the same way as rich countries, and measures of unemployment become less comparable across countries in a pandemic with varying government responses (ie you're unemployed if the government's paying your wages through UI, but not if it's paying your wages through your employer).

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« Reply #182 on: June 05, 2020, 12:54:32 PM »
What's he talking about. Just another doomsday economist like *checks notes* Larry Kudlow who predicted far higher unemployment.
These numbers are great. Operation Warp Speed is in full gear we are transitioning to greatness.

This can't possibly go wrong. People are very happy. Just look at all of them literally going outside to celebrate the reopening.
Imagine the number of fences needed to protect government properties and the jobs that will bring.

Soon we're gonna be drowning in great law enforcement and political campaign jobs.
Plus the great opportunities of nuclear testing.
Obama said it would never return but he was clearly wrong on nuclear just as he was on coal.
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« Reply #183 on: June 05, 2020, 06:42:28 PM »

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« Reply #184 on: June 05, 2020, 07:00:56 PM »
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1268900842381475840

if only we had a UCLA grad/econ titan to explain all this for us.
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Re: Econ |OT| Batten down the tranches
« Reply #185 on: June 07, 2020, 03:58:04 AM »

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« Reply #186 on: June 08, 2020, 12:54:39 PM »
https://twitter.com/ftworldnews/status/1269917825633865728

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Worse may still be to come after German factory orders plunged 25.8 per cent in April, the largest-ever monthly decline and almost double the previous record set only the month before.

Figures released on Thursday showed car sales in Germany halved in May, in comparison with the same month last year, despite car dealerships having been open since the end of April. Total car production in the first five months of the year fell to lows not seen since 1975.
Strange, in the Netherlands car sales are up  :thinking
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« Reply #188 on: June 09, 2020, 01:07:23 PM »
https://www.nber.org/cycles/june2020.html

Alright Flannel Boy, you lost.
Money sent.

Stupid Canadian dollar.

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« Reply #189 on: June 09, 2020, 01:12:46 PM »
Unlike Americans who work with Chinese labs to win a bet!

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« Reply #190 on: June 09, 2020, 02:15:55 PM »
You should have just killed yourself to get out of paying like James did :tocry
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« Reply #191 on: June 09, 2020, 02:20:30 PM »
You should have just killed yourself to get out of paying like James did :tocry
What happened to him? Did he lose all his money or did he make a boatload and is self-quarantined on a mega yacht now?

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« Reply #192 on: June 09, 2020, 02:45:47 PM »
The investment in the James Fund was well worth it  :snob
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« Reply #193 on: June 11, 2020, 04:14:34 PM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1271173306918584323

I vote to ban Shosta from making another bet for the rest of his life.

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« Reply #195 on: June 12, 2020, 07:56:04 PM »

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« Reply #196 on: June 14, 2020, 06:41:23 AM »
https://twitter.com/business/status/1272115840201166851

10 year old boys, Redditors and Dave Portnoy

What could possibly go wrong 

I want to join in on the fun but none of this is available in Euroland :rage
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« Reply #198 on: June 17, 2020, 06:38:34 PM »


 :whew
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« Reply #199 on: June 18, 2020, 12:23:16 PM »
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/06/17/20-year-old-robinhood-customer-commits-suicide-after-seeing-a-730000-negative-balance/#50a3440f5928




20 year old kid kills himself over an interface miscommunication.  He thought RH leveraged him a million dollars, when he put on a trade with 2 legs that expired at different times.  When the losing end expired, it only showed the uncompensated loss.  He was going to be credited the other end if he simply waited a few more days, and only be indebted to the initial cost of the trade that he agreed to before he jumped in.  He had no idea.  What a tragic waste.

RobinHood should really not post one leg of the debt until the complete trade is over to avoid this.  They're well aware they have a lot of new traders on their platform.

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« Reply #200 on: June 18, 2020, 12:49:43 PM »
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/06/17/20-year-old-robinhood-customer-commits-suicide-after-seeing-a-730000-negative-balance/#50a3440f5928

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20 year old kid kills himself over an interface miscommunication.  He thought RH leveraged him a million dollars, when he put on a trade with 2 legs that expired at different times.  When the losing end expired, it only showed the uncompensated loss.  He was going to be credited the other end if he simply waited a few more days, and only be indebted to the initial cost of the trade that he agreed to before he jumped in.  He had no idea.  What a tragic waste.

RobinHood should really not post one leg of the debt until the complete trade is over to avoid this.  They're well aware they have a lot of new traders on their platform.

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« Reply #201 on: June 22, 2020, 04:30:06 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/us/politics/coronavirus-poverty.html

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WASHINGTON — An unprecedented expansion of federal aid has prevented the rise in poverty that experts predicted this year when the coronavirus sent unemployment to the highest level since the Great Depression, two new studies suggest. The assistance could even cause official measures of poverty to fall.

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« Reply #202 on: June 22, 2020, 04:50:24 PM »
The important thing is that we don't learn any lessons from this.

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« Reply #203 on: June 22, 2020, 05:01:16 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/us/politics/coronavirus-poverty.html

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WASHINGTON — An unprecedented expansion of federal aid has prevented the rise in poverty that experts predicted this year when the coronavirus sent unemployment to the highest level since the Great Depression, two new studies suggest. The assistance could even cause official measures of poverty to fall.
Thank you Mr. Trump  :salute

Too bad it's ending in July :smug
https://twitter.com/JoeStGeorge/status/1275101144210182145
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Re: Econ |OT| Batten down the tranches
« Reply #204 on: June 22, 2020, 05:07:14 PM »
How much money to make you forget he killed grandma?


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« Reply #206 on: June 29, 2020, 06:40:25 PM »
Awww yeah, Larry's back  8)

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« Reply #207 on: June 29, 2020, 06:47:53 PM »
Looks V-shaped to me. :yeshrug


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« Reply #208 on: June 29, 2020, 09:10:53 PM »
I think it looks more like a backwards L.

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« Reply #210 on: July 03, 2020, 11:49:10 AM »
Mark Rutte on the necessity of an economic stimulus and
recovery agreement after Brussels said time is running out
"Well it's not like everything will collapse"

The Dutch PM also demands a discount on EU contribution and Italy to reform before considering additional aid.
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« Reply #213 on: July 05, 2020, 06:52:01 PM »
http://www.economics.uci.edu/~aglazer/

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Gift from Charles Koch Foundation to support Program in Corporate Welfare Studies, March 2017, $251,000
Gift from Troesh Family Foundation to support Program in Corporate Welfare Studies, December 2017, $150,000
Gift from Charles Koch Foundation to support Program in Corporate Welfare Studies, February 2018, $445,000
Gift from Troesh Family Foundation to support Program in Corporate Welfare Studies, October 2018, $240,000
Gift from Troesh Family Foundation to support Program in Corporate Welfare Studies, January 2019, $130,000

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« Reply #214 on: July 05, 2020, 06:52:03 PM »


https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=47482


The economics department at UCI was always a little wonky. Peter Navarro was also a UCI Economics professor.

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« Reply #215 on: July 07, 2020, 01:56:22 PM »
You could've seen that shit coming from a mile away. The entire article is just :notlikethis
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« Reply #216 on: July 08, 2020, 03:42:45 PM »
So my gf moved to LA and is living with two other girls.

They are both unemployed due to corona. If the $600 weekly thing isnt renewed, they wont be able to make rent.


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« Reply #217 on: July 08, 2020, 04:05:28 PM »
you are one of the most cringe posters on this entire forum

Where do I browse this list
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« Reply #218 on: July 08, 2020, 05:11:23 PM »
So my gf moved to LA and is living with two other girls.

They are both unemployed due to corona. If the $600 weekly thing isnt renewed, they wont be able to make rent.


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Once they learn of the james fund all three will move back in with you  :biden
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« Reply #219 on: July 09, 2020, 03:34:31 PM »
James, why didn’t you tell us the failing New York Times was writing a story about you?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/technology/robinhood-risky-trading.html

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« Reply #220 on: July 09, 2020, 03:39:45 PM »
James, why didn’t you tell us the failing New York Times was writing a story about you?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/technology/robinhood-risky-trading.html

I dont use nasty apps
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« Reply #221 on: July 13, 2020, 07:01:09 PM »
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1282794437245050884

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“I don’t know if we will reach an agreement,” said Merkel. “It is still not sure and the path remains long.”

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Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte - the key hawkish figure in the talks - has insisted on enshrining economic reforms as conditions for accessing the funds, something the south wants to avoid.
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“It’s not in anybody’s interests to introduce conditionality that would compromise the support of the programme or give it scarce practical impact,” Conte said.
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« Reply #222 on: July 16, 2020, 10:25:53 AM »
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/adp-canada-national-employment-report-employment-in-canada-increased-by-1-042-900-jobs-in-june-2020-879763241.html
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ADP Canada National Employment Report: Employment in Canada Increased by 1,042,900 Jobs in June 2020

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The May total of jobs added was revised from 208,400 to -2,951,400.

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« Reply #225 on: July 17, 2020, 01:28:34 PM »
Did they take into account the Animal Crossing sales?
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« Reply #226 on: July 26, 2020, 05:46:47 PM »

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« Reply #227 on: July 26, 2020, 06:02:17 PM »
Jake Tapper doesn't stand a chance against drunk Larry the LVL99 Economic Wizard   :rejoice
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« Reply #228 on: July 28, 2020, 06:27:19 PM »
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SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Almost 100 days ago, California Gov. Gavin Newsom tapped Apple’s Tim Cook, Disney’s Bob Iger, former Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen and scores of other business and labor luminaries to chart the state’s economic recovery.

The public is still waiting for a road map.

Top California leaders from across the fifth-largest economy in the world were supposed to "craft ideas for short, medium and long-term solutions" for a fast — but also safe — recovery. Critics say the public has largely been kept in the dark, while California fumbled its reopening this spring to the point that the state had to shut down major industries again and can't open schools this fall.

Other countries are taking nationwide approaches to confronting coronavirus and reopening, but the U.S. has left those decisions primarily to states and left them with little guidance. Events are overtaking state task forces as the accelerating disease tables their ideas until their governments can get a better handle on the problem. Elsewhere, political disputes have stymied reopening recommendations; New York City scrapped its first task force for being too white and pro-business, and its current panel has not yet issued recommendations.

And if California's top minds are struggling to save the fifth-largest economy in the world from despair, it underscores how impossible a problem America at large is facing.

“The big question is, 'What’s our plan?’” said Rachel Michelin, president of the California Retailers Association. "It just feels like we should have a plan, and we’re just throwing things against a brick wall."

The governor’s group includes “a lot of great names and a lot of very talented people,’’ Michelin said, but the group feels rudderless. Other critics decry that the public has largely been kept in the dark about what the panel is discussing or how its members have influenced key decisions by the administration, such as how quickly to reopen.

“I don’t think it’s appropriate that three months later we still don’t know what they’re working on,” said state Sen. Melissa Melendez (R-Lake Elsinore), who asked on Twitter last week if the group was “just a campaign donor list” or if it had accomplished anything. “It leads the average person to believe this is a do-nothing task force, which I hope is not the case.”

Newsom has made some pivotal decisions to reopen — and reclose — dating back to May, but it's unclear how much of them have stemmed from the task force versus his own inner circle of advisers and health experts. The governor allowed a broad range of sectors to reopen starting in May, from malls to bars to gyms, all with guidance released by the California Department of Public Health. He did not impose a mask mandate until mid-June as problems grew more severe.

Health experts increasingly blame California's scale of reopening for the state's surge of infections that has again turned the state into a Covid-19 hotspot, with 423,000 known cases and more than 8,000 deaths. Newsom this month shut down businesses such as bars, gyms and restaurant indoor dining across the state.

Critics say that the fumbled reopening is leading to another round of job losses and forcing small businesses to shutter because they cannot survive an unpredictable pattern of opening and closing. The unexpected surge also has a consequence that could loom larger this fall: Nearly all of California's schools will start the year in full distance learning, putting another restraint on working parents, some of whom are considering reducing hours or leaving their jobs to care for their children.

In interviews this week, task force co-chairs Steyer and Ann O'Leary, Newsom's chief of staff, said the group advised the governor on a wide range of issues, including the reopening plan, as well as longstanding economic and social inequities laid bare by the pandemic.

O’Leary acknowledged an unprecedented challenge in navigating the concerns of both the California’s diverse business community and health officials.

“We feel very good about the metrics we were using to reopen,’’ said O’Leary, but added that if the administration could have done one thing differently, it would have been to implore Californians not to go back to the way they were living before the pandemic. "They needed to wear masks, they needed to keep social distancing, they needed to do as much as they could,’’ she said. “We didn't do enough of that messaging — and as a result, collectively, in California we didn't do as well as we could have.’’

O'Leary provided POLITICO a list of five subcommittees and their rosters. The smaller groups are focusing on such topics as climate change and innovation; banking and housing; workforce equity and food insecurity; the economic recovery; and small businesses. She and Steyer meet regularly with them, she said, as does the governor on a biweekly basis.

“Let me just be really clear," O'Leary said. "This task force really is about getting some of the smartest minds, who are experts, helping us problem solve on a really big economic issue of the day."

Iger and other powerful CEOs are on task force calls every week, according to the governor's office. Newsom has discussed the closure and reopening of Disneyland with Iger, and those talks have been credited with slowing down the amusement park's activities.

Steyer said the group provided Newsom with valuable “real-world” information as the administration developed reopening protocols.

“We have been advising him on the decisions that have anything to do with the economy from day one,’’ Steyer said, including “what can happen and what different things mean’’ in different economic sectors.

The task force also has pressed Congress for more state and local emergency aid; supported a public-service-announcement campaign to promote the use of face coverings; and, with tech-connected industry leaders, brainstormed ways to help Newsom with “closing the digital divide” as distance learning extends into the fall, he said.

“We’re talking to them directly about the urgency to support the kids of California," Steyer said.

Armando Elenes, secretary-treasurer of the United Farm Workers, said the labor union hopes the panel will lead to improvements in health care for agricultural workers, many of whom lack access to affordable care because of their legal status, yet continue to work in the essential industry. The organization's president, Teresa Romero, is on the task force.

"They’re diving into the big issues and they’re talking about tackling the big problems," Elenes said of the group.

But Rob Lapsley, head of the California Business Roundtable, said the task force has been too insular and has not provided the transparency that the public and state business leaders deserve.

Newsom also drew criticism for naming Steyer as chair of his task force, not long after the billionaire Democrat ended his presidential campaign built on assailing President Donald Trump and promoting environmental endeavors.

Lapsley said it's essential that the state disclose any potential conflicts between the task force and Steyer’s nonprofit organization, NextGen, a group dedicated to slowing climate change and addressing income inequality.

“NextGen is staffing a lot of the task force,’’ he said. “They are a political advocacy organization. So that's another question: How does that work? Because they are advocating for policies that you know are impacting a huge sector of our economy — particularly good paying jobs like the energy sector.’’

Steyer said — and O'Leary confirmed — that he’s not getting paid for his work on the task force. He said the involvement of his nonprofit staffers was intended only to help fast-track the task force’s work, “so we can get things done and get information organized as quickly as possible.” He insisted he’s tried to be transparent about the task force's work — saying that he has made himself widely available to media and has “done over 50 interviews” to answer questions and offer details about the committee’s work.

O’Leary and Steyer worked together years earlier. In 2011, the governor’s chief of staff was named senior vice president with NextGen.

Rob Stutzman, a strategist and former adviser to Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who launched his own task forces on reinventing state government and overhauling the tax structure, said the group is too large and unwieldy to reach consensus on many bold ideas. Stutzman said he is not surprised that the public has not received concrete timelines or details about its work.

“To me it was in a pattern of a lot of things the governor did early on in the pandemic — making these vast sweeping announcements about large substantial efforts,” he said. “There was a real kind of obsession with `We lead by announcing big, bold efforts,’ and then in executing those efforts, the execution hasn’t met the magnitude of the announcements.”

Stutzman also called Steyer’s appointment “a huge mistake,” arguing that Californians see him as a national politician, rather than a businessperson. But, he said, Newsom's political career could benefit from the relationship.

O'Leary said Steyer was chosen because he is "an incredible doer. He gets things done, and he’s dogged in his approach to doing it.’’

Given the magnitude of the crisis, she said, the administration simply needed advice. “I mean, no one has ever in the history of California, the United States government, closed down the entire economy and tried to reopen it again."
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« Reply #229 on: July 28, 2020, 07:34:07 PM »
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SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Almost 100 days ago, California Gov. Gavin Newsom tapped Apple’s Tim Cook, Disney’s Bob Iger, former Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen and scores of other business and labor luminaries to chart the state’s economic recovery.

The public is still waiting for a road map.

Ah yes, a roadmap

Maybe they should do a press event and a teaser next.
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« Reply #230 on: July 29, 2020, 01:06:56 PM »
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SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Almost 100 days ago, California Gov. Gavin Newsom tapped Apple’s Tim Cook, Disney’s Bob Iger, former Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen and scores of other business and labor luminaries to chart the state’s economic recovery.

The public is still waiting for a road map.

Top California leaders from across the fifth-largest economy in the world were supposed to "craft ideas for short, medium and long-term solutions" for a fast — but also safe — recovery. Critics say the public has largely been kept in the dark, while California fumbled its reopening this spring to the point that the state had to shut down major industries again and can't open schools this fall.

Other countries are taking nationwide approaches to confronting coronavirus and reopening, but the U.S. has left those decisions primarily to states and left them with little guidance. Events are overtaking state task forces as the accelerating disease tables their ideas until their governments can get a better handle on the problem. Elsewhere, political disputes have stymied reopening recommendations; New York City scrapped its first task force for being too white and pro-business, and its current panel has not yet issued recommendations.

And if California's top minds are struggling to save the fifth-largest economy in the world from despair, it underscores how impossible a problem America at large is facing.

“The big question is, 'What’s our plan?’” said Rachel Michelin, president of the California Retailers Association. "It just feels like we should have a plan, and we’re just throwing things against a brick wall."

The governor’s group includes “a lot of great names and a lot of very talented people,’’ Michelin said, but the group feels rudderless. Other critics decry that the public has largely been kept in the dark about what the panel is discussing or how its members have influenced key decisions by the administration, such as how quickly to reopen.

“I don’t think it’s appropriate that three months later we still don’t know what they’re working on,” said state Sen. Melissa Melendez (R-Lake Elsinore), who asked on Twitter last week if the group was “just a campaign donor list” or if it had accomplished anything. “It leads the average person to believe this is a do-nothing task force, which I hope is not the case.”

Newsom has made some pivotal decisions to reopen — and reclose — dating back to May, but it's unclear how much of them have stemmed from the task force versus his own inner circle of advisers and health experts. The governor allowed a broad range of sectors to reopen starting in May, from malls to bars to gyms, all with guidance released by the California Department of Public Health. He did not impose a mask mandate until mid-June as problems grew more severe.

Health experts increasingly blame California's scale of reopening for the state's surge of infections that has again turned the state into a Covid-19 hotspot, with 423,000 known cases and more than 8,000 deaths. Newsom this month shut down businesses such as bars, gyms and restaurant indoor dining across the state.

Critics say that the fumbled reopening is leading to another round of job losses and forcing small businesses to shutter because they cannot survive an unpredictable pattern of opening and closing. The unexpected surge also has a consequence that could loom larger this fall: Nearly all of California's schools will start the year in full distance learning, putting another restraint on working parents, some of whom are considering reducing hours or leaving their jobs to care for their children.

In interviews this week, task force co-chairs Steyer and Ann O'Leary, Newsom's chief of staff, said the group advised the governor on a wide range of issues, including the reopening plan, as well as longstanding economic and social inequities laid bare by the pandemic.

O’Leary acknowledged an unprecedented challenge in navigating the concerns of both the California’s diverse business community and health officials.

“We feel very good about the metrics we were using to reopen,’’ said O’Leary, but added that if the administration could have done one thing differently, it would have been to implore Californians not to go back to the way they were living before the pandemic. "They needed to wear masks, they needed to keep social distancing, they needed to do as much as they could,’’ she said. “We didn't do enough of that messaging — and as a result, collectively, in California we didn't do as well as we could have.’’

O'Leary provided POLITICO a list of five subcommittees and their rosters. The smaller groups are focusing on such topics as climate change and innovation; banking and housing; workforce equity and food insecurity; the economic recovery; and small businesses. She and Steyer meet regularly with them, she said, as does the governor on a biweekly basis.

“Let me just be really clear," O'Leary said. "This task force really is about getting some of the smartest minds, who are experts, helping us problem solve on a really big economic issue of the day."

Iger and other powerful CEOs are on task force calls every week, according to the governor's office. Newsom has discussed the closure and reopening of Disneyland with Iger, and those talks have been credited with slowing down the amusement park's activities.

Steyer said the group provided Newsom with valuable “real-world” information as the administration developed reopening protocols.

“We have been advising him on the decisions that have anything to do with the economy from day one,’’ Steyer said, including “what can happen and what different things mean’’ in different economic sectors.

The task force also has pressed Congress for more state and local emergency aid; supported a public-service-announcement campaign to promote the use of face coverings; and, with tech-connected industry leaders, brainstormed ways to help Newsom with “closing the digital divide” as distance learning extends into the fall, he said.

“We’re talking to them directly about the urgency to support the kids of California," Steyer said.

Armando Elenes, secretary-treasurer of the United Farm Workers, said the labor union hopes the panel will lead to improvements in health care for agricultural workers, many of whom lack access to affordable care because of their legal status, yet continue to work in the essential industry. The organization's president, Teresa Romero, is on the task force.

"They’re diving into the big issues and they’re talking about tackling the big problems," Elenes said of the group.

But Rob Lapsley, head of the California Business Roundtable, said the task force has been too insular and has not provided the transparency that the public and state business leaders deserve.

Newsom also drew criticism for naming Steyer as chair of his task force, not long after the billionaire Democrat ended his presidential campaign built on assailing President Donald Trump and promoting environmental endeavors.

Lapsley said it's essential that the state disclose any potential conflicts between the task force and Steyer’s nonprofit organization, NextGen, a group dedicated to slowing climate change and addressing income inequality.

“NextGen is staffing a lot of the task force,’’ he said. “They are a political advocacy organization. So that's another question: How does that work? Because they are advocating for policies that you know are impacting a huge sector of our economy — particularly good paying jobs like the energy sector.’’

Steyer said — and O'Leary confirmed — that he’s not getting paid for his work on the task force. He said the involvement of his nonprofit staffers was intended only to help fast-track the task force’s work, “so we can get things done and get information organized as quickly as possible.” He insisted he’s tried to be transparent about the task force's work — saying that he has made himself widely available to media and has “done over 50 interviews” to answer questions and offer details about the committee’s work.

O’Leary and Steyer worked together years earlier. In 2011, the governor’s chief of staff was named senior vice president with NextGen.

Rob Stutzman, a strategist and former adviser to Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who launched his own task forces on reinventing state government and overhauling the tax structure, said the group is too large and unwieldy to reach consensus on many bold ideas. Stutzman said he is not surprised that the public has not received concrete timelines or details about its work.

“To me it was in a pattern of a lot of things the governor did early on in the pandemic — making these vast sweeping announcements about large substantial efforts,” he said. “There was a real kind of obsession with `We lead by announcing big, bold efforts,’ and then in executing those efforts, the execution hasn’t met the magnitude of the announcements.”

Stutzman also called Steyer’s appointment “a huge mistake,” arguing that Californians see him as a national politician, rather than a businessperson. But, he said, Newsom's political career could benefit from the relationship.

O'Leary said Steyer was chosen because he is "an incredible doer. He gets things done, and he’s dogged in his approach to doing it.’’

Given the magnitude of the crisis, she said, the administration simply needed advice. “I mean, no one has ever in the history of California, the United States government, closed down the entire economy and tried to reopen it again."
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This story has been making me mad since I read it. What possible guidance does a guy who used to work for someone too stupid to go to an oncologist and the guy whose company owns a theme park have to offer that is in the best interests of public health? Are Stewart and Lynda Resnick in this Legion of Doom too? Stamocap. :pacspit

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Re: Econ |OT| Batten down the tranches
« Reply #231 on: July 29, 2020, 01:13:31 PM »
It's the inevitable conclusion of America's CLEO worship  :trumps
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Re: Econ |OT| Batten down the tranches
« Reply #233 on: July 30, 2020, 06:28:41 PM »
"Our view is that we're not going to get to the pre-pandemic levels of economic activity until some time in 2022."

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Re: Econ |OT| Batten down the tranches
« Reply #234 on: July 30, 2020, 08:19:15 PM »
Oops

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/30/896714437/3-months-of-hell-u-s-economys-worst-quarter-ever

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Restaurant owner Cameron Mitchell likens the pandemic to a hurricane.

Was he standing or sitting when he said that?

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Re: The Economy |OT| Guess I'll Just Die?
« Reply #236 on: August 07, 2020, 12:44:57 PM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-07/canada-adds-419-000-jobs-in-july-recouping-55-of-covid-losses

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Canada’s economy recorded a third straight month of strong employment gains that have recouped more than half of losses from Covid-19.

Employment rose by 418,500 in July, bringing to 1.7 million the number of jobs reclaimed over the past three months. Canada lost 3 million jobs in March and April at the height of the pandemic. The employment rebound in Canada has outpaced the U.S., which has recovered 42% of its payroll losses.

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Re: The Economy |OT| Guess I'll Just Die?
« Reply #239 on: August 12, 2020, 02:31:08 PM »
In that story I liked how they low-key copped to the fact that the UK doesn't have an economy outside of being a locus in international money laundering and selling shitty weapons to Saudi. Yeah bro, no Premier League matches with live crowds is why the UK economy is keeping it 2003 right now. :lol

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