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Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« on: August 13, 2020, 03:07:30 PM »
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21366438/apple-fortnite-ios-app-store-violations-epic-payments

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Apple has removed Epic Games’ battle royale Fortnite from the App Store after the developer on Thursday implemented its own in-app payment system that bypassed Apple’s standard 30 percent fee. The decision marks a significant escalation in the feud between Epic and one of the most popular mobile app stores in the US, and it comes at an especially fraught time for Apple as the iPhone maker navigates antitrust concerns over its operation of its mobile marketplace and the rules it imposes on certain developers.

Apple really hates gamers  :fbm

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2020, 03:08:20 PM »
Hope Epic gets fucked

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2020, 03:44:13 PM »
This will get Tim Cook the Presidential Medal of Freedom  :salute

It's war now

https://twitter.com/FortniteGame/status/1293984290326433792
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2020, 03:50:58 PM »
The MTX wars, they have begun.

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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2020, 03:58:14 PM »
Chairman Tim fighting the good fight.   


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What we have here is the rarest of sights, a riotous posting in a nintex thread not furiously trying to debunk him :gladbron

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2020, 04:07:43 PM »
I hope Apple starves Epig out.

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2020, 04:08:53 PM »
https://twitter.com/JordanOloman/status/1294001944047095812

I don't think Epic is quite ready for a fight with the Apple cult but we will find out  :teehee
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2020, 04:12:54 PM »
#fortnitelivesmatter

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2020, 04:16:21 PM »
Lol apple gonna apple


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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2020, 04:19:22 PM »
#multibilliondollarmegacorplivesmatter

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2020, 04:22:15 PM »
lol forntie :zzz
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2020, 04:26:00 PM »
Hate fortnite, but Apple sucks with its payment rules, get fucked Apple.

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2020, 04:39:26 PM »
Hate fortnite, but Apple sucks with its payment rules, get fucked Apple.
The most 'let them fight' situation ever?
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2020, 04:41:10 PM »
Hate fortnite, but Apple sucks with its payment rules, get fucked Apple.
The most 'let them fight' situation ever?

Eh I’m fully on epics side here, Apple is one of the scummiest corporations in a world filled with scummy corporations.

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2020, 04:42:36 PM »
Epic is suing Apple

Epic Games is suing Apple
Epic has filed a civil antitrust lawsuit following Apple’s removal of Fortnite from the App Store


https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21367963/epic-fortnite-legal-complaint-apple-ios-app-store-removal-injunctive-relief

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2020, 04:49:40 PM »
Yeah they made a video, hired lawyers... then released the software knowing it'd get pulled.

Fun to watch I guess.

Is the older version of the game still available for kiddos?
I believe they're planning an update in 2 weeks so if this isn't resolved by then the game will be fully unplayable on Apple devices
Epic clarified this, stating that the old game will continue to work but the new content won't be available.

Parents will certainly appreciate Epic Games and Apple taking the time to fight this out at this moment in time.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2020, 05:03:48 PM by Nintex »
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MMaRsu

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2020, 04:53:19 PM »
Fuck Epic trying to force this shit on Apple. Not that I'm a fan of Apple at all, but this is just a planned attack on Apple from Epic. Tim shitlord Sweeney at it again

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2020, 04:57:09 PM »
Fuck Epic trying to force this shit on Apple. Not that I'm a fan of Apple at all, but this is just a planned attack on Apple from Epic. Tim shitlord Sweeney at it again

Idk how you can look at the facts and think Apple is right. 30% cut is too big, Apple is stifling competition, and Apple should allow developers to circumvent the cut completely.

MMaRsu

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2020, 05:05:01 PM »
30% cut is too big compared to what exactly? Don't most if not all platform holders take a 30% cut?

How is Apple 'stifling' competition? Does Epic have their own mobile device store? What competition are we speaking of?

Why should they allow devs to circumvent the cut entirely if the app is hosted on Apple's servers and Epic has agreed to those conditions Apple has placed on their store?

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2020, 05:22:56 PM »
30% cut is too big compared to what exactly? Don't most if not all platform holders take a 30% cut?

How is Apple 'stifling' competition? Does Epic have their own mobile device store? What competition are we speaking of?

Why should they allow devs to circumvent the cut entirely if the app is hosted on Apple's servers and Epic has agreed to those conditions Apple has placed on their store?

30% for any digital store is too much IMO. Cut should be like 10% max IMO.

You do know there other apps on the App Store, right? Spotify is a prime example of Apple’s large cut stifling competition. Apple gets 100% of the revenue from a Apple Music sub and would get 30% of a Spotify sub. This means competing services only make 70% of what Apple makes, which can cause prices to go up and Apple’s competitor to suffer.

Apple doesn’t allow for an easy way to side load apps. Epic is using Apple’s App Store because they have to. If Epic could make a website that said “click here to download Fortnite for your iPhone”, they’d have done it ages ago.

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2020, 05:25:24 PM »
Who are the bad guys here, someone do my thinking for me pls :trumps

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2020, 05:33:49 PM »
Apple, unless you’re a whiny steam baby

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2020, 05:41:52 PM »
Who are the bad guys here, someone do my thinking for me pls :trumps
I dunno, but Epic gave me some free games, Apple gave me just a lot of headaches with their fucking tech support bullshit, back in the day.

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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2020, 06:02:35 PM »
Who are the bad guys here, someone do my thinking for me pls :trumps

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2020, 06:31:17 PM »
Despite Apple being assholes about this, I think this is part of a broader discussion on running platforms within platforms.
The game industry has quickly moved to launchers and their own platform infrastructure vs. using the platform of the hardware manufacturer (which was standard).
The companies Apple usually dealt with were unable to carry of the cost of creating their own platform or simply not interested or capable in doing so.

Epic can now do all these things because Fortnite was a huge success, but part of that success is thanks to Apple offering them this platform and creating this install base.
I feel it's a bit unfair to paint Apple as a 'bad guy' who scammed them with their 30%, which is simply the price Apple asks for getting access to their user base of millions.
It's not remotely the same as Apple denying Spotify the opportunity to advertise or release Apps on the Apple Watch to boost their own Apple music platform.

Apple also does a pretty decent job keeping the App Store clean and organized. Unlike for example Nintendo, the eShop is a mess beyond the first 10 games.
You also have to wonder if everyone having their own platform is good for the consumer and their privacy.
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2020, 06:49:23 PM »
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2020, 07:09:44 PM »
Tim Sweeney the kind of guy that would rant furiously about his taxes going to fix and replace roads and bridges.

That is if he paid taxes, of course.  It’s probably a fair bet that he pays nothing or next to.

I say let them both fight.  Fuck Temper tantrum-Tim Sweeney and also fuck apple.

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2020, 07:19:39 PM »
Remember when Epic used to actually make games?
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2020, 07:23:02 PM »
Remember when Epic used to actually make games?
By themselves or with the help of Digital Extremes, etc.? :teehee

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2020, 07:29:57 PM »
Remember when Epic used to actually make games?

They're really trying to outdo Valve aren't they
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2020, 09:52:18 PM »
Who are the bad guys here, someone do my thinking for me pls :trumps

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2020, 01:40:20 AM »
30% of revenue from videogame costumes going to the platform owner is the exact sort of tyranny Orwell was thinking about when he wrote 1984.

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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2020, 02:16:03 AM »
Also been removed from Android

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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2020, 03:58:29 AM »
I don't know who to root for here, in fact I think the best thing is to root for the heat death of the universe

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« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2020, 05:35:42 AM »
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2020, 06:26:40 AM »
Remember when Epic used to actually make games?

Gears 1 & 2  :tocry
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2020, 07:38:01 AM »
all for an unremarkble bomb that was hurriedly jerry-rigged to copy the hot new game of moment and sent out as a F2P standalone mod to make a few quid back.

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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2020, 07:48:18 AM »
Whoever wins, we lose
I see it as Whoever loses, we win...  Fuck Apple, Fuck Fortnight and Fuck Epic. Let one kill the other.  Like a giant cock fight of shitty games, as far as I'm concerned.

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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2020, 10:58:22 AM »
:lol

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2020, 12:02:58 PM »
I'm really sceptical that any of Fortnites playerbase would get the reference that that freefortnite video is parodying

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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2020, 12:08:59 PM »
Fuck App Store Monopoly fo real, don’t give two shits about epic tho

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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2020, 12:11:21 PM »
I'm really sceptical that any of Fortnites playerbase would get the reference that that freefortnite video is parodying


It feels like there's already a million "HEY HERE'S WHERE THIS CAME FROM AND WHY IT WAS AN IMPORTANT AD" tweets out there.

I booted up Fortnite the other night and the Epic version of this ad popped up before I could get to the game.  You could hold a button to skip it, but even this took too long.  Makes me want to just delete it. 
« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 12:24:40 PM by bork »
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2020, 12:23:19 PM »
It feels like there's already a million "HEY HERE'S WHERE THIS CAME FROM AND WHY IT WAS AN IMPORTANT AD" tweets out there.

Well its a good opportunity for techbloggers to pretend they know whats being talked about and try and grow an audience that don't give a fuck about them or read anything they write (or read anything at all because they get all their news direct from YT)

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Before next month they go back to "WOW! Have you heard pf this game called FORTNITE? Look how many players it has! CRAZY, right? Now they showed a video advert in it!"

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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2020, 12:24:20 PM »
It feels like there's already a million "HEY HERE'S WHERE THIS CAME FROM AND WHY IT WAS AN IMPORTANT AD" tweets out there.

Well its a good opportunity for techbloggers to pretend they know whats being talked about and try and grow an audience that don't give a fuck about them or read anything they write (or read anything at all because they get all their news direct from YT)

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2020, 12:48:58 PM »
The game industry has quickly moved to launchers and their own platform infrastructure vs. using the platform of the hardware manufacturer (which was standard).

LOL. wtf are you talking about? 

Other than on PC where launchers abound.. like.. what?

Steam mobile app allows you to buy from there.

IIRC X-box and the Playstation apps do as well. It's a stretch but I get what he's going for.

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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2020, 02:59:38 PM »
Why doesn't Epic just make their own mobile os if they don't want to do any revenue split? Brats would make their parents buy Fortnite phones.
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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2020, 05:20:29 PM »
Why doesn't Epic just make their own mobile os if they don't want to do any revenue split? Brats would make their parents buy Fortnite phones.

Well if they made an OS like they made their digital distribution storefront, it wouldn't be able to run any background apps or multitask, allow purchases without a credit card manually entered at each transaction, and not be able to import contacts from anywhere except facedbook, but would come with a free game each week.

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« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2020, 05:41:33 PM »
How long til Tim pitches a big baby fit about the cut for console manufacturers and takes his ball away from them too?

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« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2020, 06:49:43 PM »
How long til Tim pitches a big baby fit about the cut for console manufacturers and takes his ball away from them too?
They'd be suing one of their investors (Sony), but idk, maybe it's common.

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« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2020, 07:05:53 PM »
How long til Tim pitches a big baby fit about the cut for console manufacturers and takes his ball away from them too?

I thought console gamers like home brew apps?

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« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2020, 09:21:27 PM »
How long til Tim pitches a big baby fit about the cut for console manufacturers and takes his ball away from them too?

Exactly. His whole 88/12 spiel falls apart once people realize the 70/30 cut is standard across the board no matter the industry.

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« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2020, 09:41:39 PM »
The vergecast on this today was super informative.  Could have some big implications for ios as a closed platform if they win.  Looking forward to that.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/14/21368755/fortnite-app-store-apple-google-chaos-vergecast-417

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« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2020, 10:36:44 AM »
Sweeney going after Cook like this… it’s like that Cyndi Lauper song, Tim After Tim.

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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2020, 03:04:14 PM »
https://twitter.com/EpicNewsroom/status/1295430127455596544

Tim Sweeney thinking he could take on Apple :heh



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Re: Apple Removes Fortnite from the App Store
« Reply #58 on: August 17, 2020, 04:02:50 PM »
Hoping this escalates further and causes the death of the walled garden. It is ridiculous to buy any hardware and not be able to choose what software runs on it.

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« Reply #59 on: August 17, 2020, 04:08:26 PM »
Hoping this escalates further and causes the death of the walled garden. It is ridiculous to buy any hardware and not be able to choose what software runs on it.

Yes, but on the other hand I don't own any Apple products and couldn't possibly care any less about Fortnite so...
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