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[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-think-that-horizon-fws-main-villain-is-kinda-problematic.544163/

The main villain of Horizon FW was revealed recently as a female tribal leader named Regalla.

Regalla is played by a famous Black actress named Angela Bassett. This is what Regalla looks like:

Her face design is clearly inspired by indigenous face paint, right? Isn't that cultural appropriation?

It is usually a good thing when non-white VAs get prominent roles in games (especially big AAA ones) but this casting and other similar ones such as Miles Morales and Far Cry 6's dictator villain being played by Black men who aren't Hispanic give me pause because they're people taking on identities (to varying degrees) that are not their own.

 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-just-so-so-goddamn-tired-of-covid.544148/
They're always exhausted just ny sitting down and being keyboard warriors

[benjipwns]

. This clearly tyrannical behavior ResetERA.com prominent members find to be illustrative as to what President Biden should be doing regarding journalists asking him about inflation at public conferences about inflation.

Being fair, that makes his question worse. 

Have no illusions, I don't care about the President insulting journalists even if the questions were legitimate (the White House press corps questions are generally utterly stupid and irrelevant) and even if it's not nice to curse at them. The criticism here is not of the President, it's of the media. Whenever Trump did the same thing it was the end of democracy, it was an attack on freedom of the press, it was grounds for impeachment, etc. Now the media and its sycophants are justifying it by saying Doocy doesn't count as a journalist, are openly laughing or cheering it on, are claiming Biden didn't mean it or even if he did that it was fine, etc. They may be right now and maybe it was a stupid question, but this doesn't explain why they spent four years of claiming to be under literal siege from the same behavior but now are either handwaving it as not important, thinking it's great or worse, like the ResetERA.com members are doing, are saying that Biden actually should start treating journalists he doesn't like that way. (And in some respects should start considering the merits of extrajudicial imprisonment of them.)

CNN White House correspondent Jim Acosta wrote an entire book about being insulted by Trump:


Meanwhile, the Biden Administration is continuing a Trump initiated prosecution of a foreign journalist for doing journalism, the media isn't covering it at all despite it being about them and their rights, and almost never have Biden nor Jen Psaki even been asked about the case. (Yesterday was also a rare instance of this, to which Psaki responded by refusing to comment but also praising Biden's "unprecedented commitment to freedom of the press.")

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-think-that-horizon-fws-main-villain-is-kinda-problematic.544163/

The main villain of Horizon FW was revealed recently as a female tribal leader named Regalla.

Regalla is played by a famous Black actress named Angela Bassett. This is what Regalla looks like:

Her face design is clearly inspired by indigenous face paint, right? Isn't that cultural appropriation?

It is usually a good thing when non-white VAs get prominent roles in games (especially big AAA ones) but this casting and other similar ones such as Miles Morales and Far Cry 6's dictator villain being played by Black men who aren't Hispanic give me pause because they're people taking on identities (to varying degrees) that are not their own.

 

So was Aloy's love interest. Son of the tribe's Chieftain

Aloy doesn't have any love interests in the first game.

I was shipping these two together. Maybe because I'm black and felt it refreshing.

[Boredfrom]

. This clearly tyrannical behavior ResetERA.com prominent members find to be illustrative as to what President Biden should be doing regarding journalists asking him about inflation at public conferences about inflation.

Being fair, that makes his question worse. 

Have no illusions, I don't care about the President insulting journalists even if the questions were legitimate (the White House press corps questions are generally utterly stupid and irrelevant) and even if it's not nice to curse at them. The criticism here is not of the President, it's of the media. Whenever Trump did the same thing it was the end of democracy, it was an attack on freedom of the press, it was grounds for impeachment, etc. Now the media and its sycophants are justifying it by saying Doocy doesn't count as a journalist, are openly laughing or cheering it on, are claiming Biden didn't mean it or even if he did that it was fine, etc. They may be right now and maybe it was a stupid question, but this doesn't explain why they spent four years of claiming to be under literal siege from the same behavior but now are either handwaving it as not important, thinking it's great or worse, like the ResetERA.com members are doing, are saying that Biden actually should start treating journalists he doesn't like that way. (And in some respects should start considering the merits of extrajudicial imprisonment of them.)

CNN White House correspondent Jim Acosta wrote an entire book about being insulted by Trump:
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Meanwhile, the Biden Administration is continuing a Trump initiated prosecution of a foreign journalist for doing journalism, the media isn't covering it at all despite it being about them and their rights, and almost never have Biden nor Jen Psaki even been asked about the case. (Yesterday was also a rare instance of this, to which Psaki responded by refusing to comment but also praising Biden's "unprecedented commitment to freedom of the press.")

Probably because he is from Fox News and they have abandoned any semblance of journo integrity for the most part (including some exodus from journos that think Tucker Carlson is too much).

I don’t agree with Era that Biden should start doing strongman rhetoric. But I don’t think you should entertain the idea of Fox News as legitimate.

[Nintex]

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I like how even the cover disproves Acosta's book.

As a journalist you could enter a shouting match with the President or just yell at him and there was a 90% chance he would walk over and respond.
I don't think there was ever a President in history that was so easy to access for the press. Before he got banned from Twitter you could easily figure out where he was and what he was doing.

You can also tell they got used to it as they are trying the same thing with Biden and the press wonders why they just can't shout at the President after he delivers some remarks or get a ad-hoc press conference next to a helicopter.

Not to mention now that Trump is out CNN ratings have absolutely tanked and most news papers are only kept afloat as a hobby by billionaires.
The world's leading media outlet is now the Joe Rogan Experience.

[Boredfrom]

Boy, Nintex. I suppose everyone just imagined that time when Trump quit a live interview or when started to avoid doing conferences. Is like Twitter was a safe space for him to said shit without being questioned.

[marrec]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/biden-calls-peter-doocy-fox-news-wh-correspondent-a-stupid-sob.543722/page-7#post-80911709

Abraham Lincoln banned the pro pro Democrat newspapers like The New York Herald. He did this because they were just being used as Confederacy propaganda. I wonder how many people know that.

He also suspended Habeas Corpus so he could just round up all the known Confederate spies/sympathizers in the North and throw their asses in jail.

By "known Confederate spies/sympathizers" I assume he is excluding the personal opponents of Lincoln and his generals including those who criticized the war from a pro-Union perspective, those who criticized the draft for being slavery and members of Congress who were "escorted" into hostile territory effectively expelling them from the country for insulting the President. All of which were illegally arrested, not granted even military trials and had any form of recourse denied. Lincoln and his generals imprisoned, without trial, entire city governments because they were political opponents before they could even act in some way to "undermine" the war effort.

And to go further because I am required by statute. Lincoln's suspensions of civil liberties, despite being in war time as marrec notes, were not legal. The President does not have the authority to suspend habeas, only Congress does. And despite a compliant Republican Congress they did not back Lincoln (nor did the Supreme Court) and only by compromise did they not admonish Lincoln. Notably, the greatest successes of the war came after Lincoln stopped trying to suppress domestic civil liberties personally and spending all his time engaging in politics with his generals rather than focus on conduct of the war. (Congress would suspend habeas so the violations of civil liberties would continue until after the war.)

Lastly, as one would expect, when the Supreme Court struck down Lincoln's order as illegal and Lincoln ignored the ruling a newspaper criticized Lincoln for not respecting the rule of law. The editor was arrested and imprisoned for over a year without trial. When he wrote a book about his imprisonment the publishers of the book were then arrested and held.

This clearly tyrannical behavior ResetERA.com prominent members find to be illustrative as to what President Biden should be doing regarding journalists asking him about inflation at public conferences about inflation.

Beyond anything other context, these two examples are of a President making war time suspensions of otherwise constitutionally backed freedoms during a civil war. Which sort of places these allegorical anecdotes far beyond our current state of affairs.

Unless El Bombastico and RustyNails are suggesting that Biden suspend constitutional rights of the political opposition without any precipitating civil conflict.

I wonder what you'd call a political party that forcibly suppresses normally codified opposition rights under the pretext of putting ones nation above the individual rights of those who would do it harm?

They regularly LARP about how we're on the immediate verge of an even worse civil war against the white nationalists. 2022 will not be a legitimate election because not only has democracy already died but because the ongoing civil war will prove to be a burden to minority voters.

What’s more, they intentionally (well, probably not intentionally they’re probably just stupid) tell a so truncated version of some of Lincoln’s acts during the Civil War instead of Wilson’s blatantly unconstitutional proclamations leading up to and during WWI (or Teddys during WWII) as if implying that Lincoln was the only President bold enough to do what was needed because he recognized the evils of the confederacy and slavery instead of the truth that Presidential abuse of individual constitutional rights had been an increasingly common part of political cycles until very recently.

Back in Roosevelts Presidency the Patriot Act would have been an afterthought of a footnote within a much larger more all encompassing package of constitutional violations.

I guess you could say that the good thing about modern asymmetrical warfare is that it’s really reduced the reliance on public displays of constitutional violations in order to whip up nationalist fervor, thanks Oppenheimer!

[marrec]

Boy, Nintex. I suppose everyone just imagined that time when Trump quit a live interview or when started to avoid doing conferences. Is like Twitter was a safe space for him to said shit without being questioned.

Dude spent 6 years ducking Steve Inskeep and then hung up on him as soon as he realized there was no value in continuing the conversation. Trumps image is just as carefully crafted as any other recent presidents he just happens to want to craft an image of unrepentant buffoonery toward everyone who happens to cross his path.

You know, a man of the people.

[Uncle]

some non-era drama:

one of the more prominent repositories online for LBGT+ information is fandom wiki (formerly wikia), a common search result under many major search engines, especially for more fringe sexuality concepts

fandom wiki staff realized that with such prominence, there was some level of rigor and responsibility which was not being properly honored, and a week ago they decided they were going to merge all LGBT+ related wikis into one, with an emphasis on accuracy and citing reliable, verifiable sources. to quote their post, "The main LGBTQIA+ Wiki will have a page on xenogenders (with examples), but not the thousands of pages as on other wikis."  (read: glittergender confuses normies and/or makes us look like the alliance of magicians so we're done hosting all of those)

predictably, everyone lost their shit

https://lgbta.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Sannse/A_new_combined_wiki

TW: Swearing and Caps, please read with caution

...Yeah, no. Screw you and the rest of your moderators. I do not support this decision in the slightest. This is completely disrespectful to the authors of the LGBTA and Ezgender wiki that have put their time and energy into creating a SAFE and ACCEPTING space for every queer individual. WE DO NOT NEED TO MERGE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR WEBSITE "Clean and pretty and exclusionist UWU". You have REFUSED TO LISTEN to and consider the THOUSANDS of people who are saying that they DON'T FUCKING WANT THIS. Identities that "only exist on the internet" are VALID. By separating the two you are inherently implying that those identities do not matter to the LGBTQIA community. If you actually go through with this I will have to stop supporting FANDOM. If this can happen to the LGBTQIA community, it can happen to any community as evolving on here. Once again, screw you. Start listening to us and stop this bullshit before I have to delete my account on here.

Our identities our official. Our identities are real and are not "fictional". Your merging of these wikis was uncalled for, and you did it in the most transphobic, intersexist, and whatever-else-phobic way possible. I will not be using your websites anymore. You are nothing but queer gatekeepers and I will not stand for this.

Down with the cishets.

this person objects to the decision using no less than 20 of their individual headmates, which include multiple characters from paper mario: thousand year door and undertale


this fandom staff member Sannse is enduring a lot of personally targeted abuse on their wall

Stop the merge, exclusionist.

Or else. Do you realize how many people your may hurt, devastate, and even drive to su1c1de with this decision?? Answer me, you coward. Stop it before the entire LGBTQ community rains hellfire upon this company.

JUST MAKE A NEW WIKI AND LEAVE THIS ONE UP, EXCLUSIONIST CORPORATE PIG

nevertheless, fandom wiki was undeterred, and the merge is ongoing

this post from admins was intensely problematic:

Hi, I'm one of the admins here. Please read this as serious and sincere in tone.

This wiki documents terms that are in use or have historically been used in multiple settings, which is not a good fit for introducing terms newly coined online to see if they catch on. Many xenogender coinings are posted and then never used by anyone as an identity term, meaning they do not have a history of use. Our wiki will operate differently from those that collect every coined term as soon as it is coined. This means we aren't the right place to bring every xenogender identity into the spotlight with its own page.

"Uncommon" and "rare" does not mean they are not valid!

Based on results from the Gender Census, an annual survey of non-binary individuals, less than 2% of those survey respondents identified as xenogender. It can be assumed that for individual xenogender identities under the umbrella, the percentage is even smaller. Xenogender is of course part of the LGBTQIA+/MOGAI community, and we have a page inclusive of it as a standalone identity and an umbrella term. Thus far, the term xenogender itself is just beginning to break out of Tumblr and other online communities and into print. Individual xenogender-related terms and identities are just beginning that process.

The many xenogender pages that have been created on other Fandom wikis will not disappear forever. Although LGBTA Wiki and others will be going offline, all pages are archived. Fandom can assist wikis with taking those archived contents and giving them a new home, whether it's on Ezgender or on a non-Fandom host.

wiki admins and mods seem to conclude that the xenogender authors of these wikis were more or less participating in an SCP foundation-style mass creative writing/vexillology exercise, which has been brought to an end

there is no longer a home for the likes of dreamsexuality, whose pride flag incorporated the Microsoft Paint default thought bubble

Dreamsexual, also known as Sognaresexual and Yumesexual, is when someone only feels sexual attraction during dreams, but rarely or never feels sexual attraction when awake. It is on the asexual spectrum, and the aromantic counterpart is dreamromantic or sognareromantic.

History
The term appears to have been coined by an anomynous user on January 24, 2021; however, its origins are unknown.

Flag
The flag was created by FANDOM user Clear.Skyes on January 26, 2021.

The alternate flag was created by FANDOM user Squiddydee on January 31, 2021.[1] The pink gradient represents the soft, vague, misty, sweet side of dreams and the blue-gray gradient represents the more turbulent, bizarre, and darker side of dreams. The black stripe represents the night.

The second alternate flag was created by FANDOM user Reign of the breadsticcs on or before April 2, 2021.

which has been consistently at the top of their "popular" sidebar, because:

For a second I thought they were talking about the minecraft youtuber Dream.

same

Kids are so stupid to think that this means Dream (the youtuber) like what?

I thought it was gonna be the OTHER dreamsexual lol

can you guys shut up in the comments and focus on this sexuality instead. i absolutely LOVE the flag and think its a very cool  and unique sexuality and valid!

of course, refugees are already moving on to other pastures, like miraheze, which now helpfully hosts the definition of Neptunic for us

User strwbryfemme on Twitter made an alternate neptunic flag on or before July 4, 2021. The flag was created to have a higher contrast for art, the same designer made a 4 stripe version for the same reason.[5] @strwbryfemme's flags should be used with caution as fawn has a history of exclusionism against m-spec lesbians.[6][7]

I also discovered this   

https://lgbta.fandom.com/wiki/Apantigenders

[benjipwns]

Probably because he is from Fox News and they have abandoned any semblance of journo integrity for the most part (including some exodus from journos that think Tucker Carlson is too much).

I don’t agree with Era that Biden should start doing strongman rhetoric. But I don’t think you should entertain the idea of Fox News as legitimate.

You're doing exactly what I said about making excuses about how this doesn't count because you don't like who it happened to. If the media would like to start a discourse about which of their members are legitimate or not and why then they should do that. If the media want to make a case why Fox News or any other member of the White House press corps should be expelled from it they should do that. I suspect either would go quite well for them since they have such impeccable standards. They should not elevate personal conflicts into existential conflicts while then cheerleading the same, or worse, behavior when it's happening to people they don't like personally or politically or because they're competition. It undermines their own claims of legitimacy when for whatever reason they would rather fight with Donald Trump than fight for everyone's rights.

[benjipwns]

Our identities our official. Our identities are real and are not "fictional". Your merging of these wikis was uncalled for, and you did it in the most transphobic, intersexist, and whatever-else-phobic way possible. I will not be using your websites anymore. You are nothing but queer gatekeepers and I will not stand for this.

Down with the cishets.

Solidarity.

[BIONIC]

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[Uncle]

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[benjipwns]

What’s more, they intentionally (well, probably not intentionally they’re probably just stupid) tell a so truncated version of some of Lincoln’s acts during the Civil War instead of Wilson’s blatantly unconstitutional proclamations leading up to and during WWI (or Teddys during WWII) as if implying that Lincoln was the only President bold enough to do what was needed because he recognized the evils of the confederacy and slavery instead of the truth that Presidential abuse of individual constitutional rights had been an increasingly common part of political cycles until very recently.

Back in Roosevelts Presidency the Patriot Act would have been an afterthought of a footnote within a much larger more all encompassing package of constitutional violations.

I guess you could say that the good thing about modern asymmetrical warfare is that it’s really reduced the reliance on public displays of constitutional violations in order to whip up nationalist fervor, thanks Oppenheimer!

FDR was WWII not Teddy.

But, to the point, the World Wars leave us with (at least) two legacies that live on in awkward ways along these lines. The Espionage Act being used to prosecute Assange for journalism are from the first World War, but worse in my opinion is the legacy of the Supreme Court ruling of Schenck from that time. It was the now overturned case upholding the power of the government to arrest people for opposing the draft in which they used the horrible shouting "fire" in a crowded theater analogy to justify arresting draft opponents. Yet despite being overturned in many ways people still use that justification constantly for why some speech they don't like now should be illegal. Joe Rogan takes horse medicine! (I know he didn't Nintex, calm down.) That's like shouting "fire" in a crowded theater! Arrest him!

The other legacy that comes to mind, from WWII, is the Supreme Court case of Korematsu, which upheld the interment of Americans (it was not just Japanese-Americans either) and has never been formally overruled. John Roberts can certainly condemn it and say the Court no longer finds it to be correct, but since it's still precedent and can only be challenged if the governments starts interning people again that's not exactly ideal.

For people so steeped in the all encompassing and endless legacy of the psychic harms of white supremacy, J.K. Rowling, and other problematic things, they often don't think about their "good" authoritarian actions beyond how it will only be used against the bad people in this specific instance this one time and never will be turned against innocents.

[Taco Bell Tower]

We have a sexuality?   

[Boredfrom]

Probably because he is from Fox News and they have abandoned any semblance of journo integrity for the most part (including some exodus from journos that think Tucker Carlson is too much).

I don’t agree with Era that Biden should start doing strongman rhetoric. But I don’t think you should entertain the idea of Fox News as legitimate.

You're doing exactly what I said about making excuses about how this doesn't count because you don't like who it happened to. If the media would like to start a discourse about which of their members are legitimate or not and why then they should do that. If the media want to make a case why Fox News or any other member of the White House press corps should be expelled from it they should do that. I suspect either would go quite well for them since they have such impeccable standards. They should not elevate personal conflicts into existential conflicts while then cheerleading the same, or worse, behavior when it's happening to people they don't like personally or politically or because they're competition. It undermines their own claims of legitimacy when for whatever reason they would rather fight with Donald Trump than fight for everyone's rights.

They totally should. Having low standards is probably still better than not having at all. Stop pretending that Fox News is not part of the problem. Choose your battles, Benji.

Do you want to talk about legitimacy? What about that Tucker Carlson documentary that was so sleazy that a bunch of reporters quit by principle alone, the one about the Jan 6 riots... but somehow Fox News is a legit news network and not propaganda.

[benjipwns]

whiteadjacantgender

[benjipwns]

Do you want to talk about legitimacy? What about that Tucker Carlson documentary that was so sleazy that a bunch of reporters quit by principle alone, the one about the Jan 6 riots... but somehow Fox News is a legit news network and not propaganda.

This is the second time you've repeated this so I have to let you know that no reporters publicly quit Fox News over Tucker Carlson. Jonah Goldberg, who I have no qualms with, may have tried to claim that his "refusal" to sign a new contract with Fox when his old one expired was some kind of principled stand but I suspect it was mutual since he ran to the equally bad MSNBC and CNN immediately. Stephen Hayes is a similar case. Neither are reporters, merely conservative columnists. Stephen Hayes' most famous "reporting" was that Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11:

[Boredfrom]

So? That makes Tucker Carlson documentary magically okay? Isn’t that also damages the legitimacy of democracy but is okay because freedom of press (even if Tucker Carlson was constantly calling Trump during his presidency).

[benjipwns]

So? That makes Tucker Carlson documentary magically okay? Isn’t that also damages the legitimacy of democracy but is okay because freedom of press (even if Tucker Carlson was constantly calling Trump during his presidency).

The Tucker Carlson documentary can be criticized like anything else. I don't know why you would think I have a different position, I am simply informing you of relevant facts.

And the freedom of the press is essential to democracy, sorry.

[benjipwns]

temp locking to evaluate numerous reports.

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION

Hey gals & guys, keep in mind that not everyone down there is a bigoted asshole. There's a lot of decent people and marginalized groups having to live down there, who's lives are made worse by things like this, who probably don't appreciate being generalized and lumped in with the assholes.

what about empals?

[Boredfrom]

So? That makes Tucker Carlson documentary magically okay? Isn’t that also damages the legitimacy of democracy but is okay because freedom of press (even if Tucker Carlson was constantly calling Trump during his presidency).

The Tucker Carlson documentary can be criticized like anything else. I don't know why you would think I have a different position, I am simply informing you of relevant facts.

And the freedom of the press is essential to democracy, sorry.

I’m sorry that you think propaganda is worth fighting as freedom of press.

Maybe let’s not bitch about crisis in legitimacy anymore?

[benjipwns]

Allowing the state to designate what is and is not propaganda and then allowing the state to prosecute and punish those who create what the state considers propaganda eliminates the freedom of speech/press and ends democracy. Sorry if you don't like this because you want to see people you don't like prosecuted and punished by the state.

[Boredfrom]

Allowing the state to designate what is and is not propaganda and then allowing the state to prosecute and punish those who create what the state considers propaganda eliminates the freedom of speech/press and ends democracy. Sorry if you don't like this because you want to see people you don't like prosecuted and punished by the state.

Benji, you are intelligent enough to realize this is not that. No, I don’t want Tucker Carlson persecuted because his political opinions, like I don’t want to people stop mocking anti vaxers. But I’m just asking that you shouldn’t pretend this is a matter of “I disagree with him political” given how much people need to suffer because gleefully distributed misinformation and propaganda.

I don’t want the state involved but I also dislike the “let’s pretend Fox News is legit and valid because the rest of the media is scummy”. Is more offensive to me you are entertaining that idea at this point in the game.

Btw, I agree that Biden did right in apologizing given his position.

[benjipwns]

I don't know why you would mention the "legitimacy of democracy" and "propaganda" as juxtaposed to "freedom of the press" as you did unless you wanted the state involved. Nobody ever said you can't criticize the press for their actions. I was doing exactly that!

Nah, it absolutely is because of the politics/competition factors. The notion that CNN/MSNBC is just so aghast at the evils of Fox News and that's why they cheerlead what they condemned as a threat against democracy doesn't wash with the facts. CNN and MSNBC also platform conspiracy theorists in prime time yet nobody treats them as illegitimate. CNN attacks Fox because it's what their viewers want, just like Fox attacks CNN/MSNBC for the same reasons. If CNN and MSNBC actually cared about freedom of the press like they LARP then they would spend at least as much time as Tucker Carlson on the Biden Administration prosecuting Assange. If the guy supposedly destroying the Republic can cover it then surely the paragon defenders of democracy would try to end an unjust prosecution that will crimp their own rights.

Btw, I agree that Biden did right in apologizing given his position.

That is not my position, so we do not agree on that. Biden should have only apologized if he meant it.

[Boredfrom]

Ay, fuck off with Assange and Tucker Carlson. Defend Assange by principle, but don’t make him a martyr or Tucker Carlson is doing because “freedom of press”.

That is not my position, so we do not agree on that. Biden should have only apologized if he meant it.

You are not 10, Benji.

[benjipwns]

Uh, the state prosecuting a journalist for journalism is kinda an important freedom of the press issue.

[Boredfrom]

Uh, the state prosecuting a journalist for journalism is kinda an important freedom of the press issue.

I didn’t said it didn’t. I said I understand why people defend Assange by principle alone.

But fuck that shit about Tucker Carlson. If you like him just said.

[benjipwns]

I don't like Tucker Carlson, I am using him as an example as to how derelict what you consider "legitimate" media to be.

[Boredfrom]

So we agree that the mass media requires new standards without government intervention and that Fox News is not where those standards should come from, whatever you agree of the legitimacy of poor bullied Fox News Media empire.

Or lets bitch about the media but pretend everything is working. So there is no reason to bitch about a president calling a stupid malicious reporter a SOB.

[benjipwns]

I think you missed the whole part where I didn't bitch about the President insulting Doocy and went out of my way to tell you twice that I had no criticism of him on this.

"malicious reporter" lol

[Boredfrom]

I think you missed the whole part where I didn't bitch about the President insulting Doocy and went out of my way to tell you twice that I had no criticism of him on this.

"malicious reporter" lol

Then why the fuck defend Fox News with the según of “media killing democracy” because people laugh about shitty stupid question.

And yeah, sure as fuck that lol on how asking “ Do you think inflation is a political liability ahead of the midterms?" is not a shit question, borderline “have you stopped punching your wife senator?” if it was not stating the obvious to begin. Or you think the question was not intended to be bait?

Everyone does? Sure but then why have crocodile tears for Fox News because the rest of the press is dismissing the bitching.

[Boredfrom]

Let’s put it more simple, if you don’t care about decorum why then compare this incident with Trump and say it is the same even if the key difference is that Biden apologized a hour later, so most reporters probably are not concerned about making that comparison to begin with specially since Fox News is thrilled to used it as soundbite while previously defending Trump.

[benjipwns]

Please read what I have said not that which you wish me to have said so you can argue with it.

[Boredfrom]

Please read what I have said not that which you wish me to have said so you can argue with it.

You are right. I’m sorry. I calmed down and I realized how I misread a lot of what you said (I only strongly disagree with this being the same as Trump... but kind of moot point at this point).

I’m so sorry dude.

Fox News related drama is kind of my “both sides” trigger. I’m sorry.

[benjipwns]

It's okay, we all have our things!

[Kurt Russell]

So? That makes Tucker Carlson documentary magically okay? Isn’t that also damages the legitimacy of democracy but is okay because freedom of press (even if Tucker Carlson was constantly calling Trump during his presidency).

Wait. There's a Tucker Carlson documentary? Do we get to find out how he keeps his hair so fabulous?

[SmokyDave]

Please read what I have said not that which you wish me to have said so you can argue with it.

You are right. I’m sorry. I calmed down and I realized how I misread a lot of what you said (I only strongly disagree with this being the same as Trump... but kind of moot point at this point).

I’m so sorry dude.

Fox News related drama is kind of my “both sides” trigger. I’m sorry.

This is some good shit. Much respect and a pint for you if our paths ever cross.

It's okay, we all have our things!

Same to you.

[Taco Bell Tower]

You don't see that kind of convo at ResetEra.com 

[marrec]

You don't see that kind of convo at ResetEra.com 

You do, but it’s about cleavage coverage and Boredform would be banned regardless

[Uncle]

the fact that both sides came to a mutual "respectful" understanding is a travesty, emblematic of the absolute state of modern political dialogue

those who rightfully want to see Tucker and his ilk in prison fold at the drop of a hat, rather than letting the benjis of the world know that this shit is NOT okay, and that their backwards beliefs will have consequences

[Snoopycat_]

So! After almost two years of using the India/VPN method with no problem and literal hours after posting in this thread, I get this message:

"We were unable to verify some information in your Google Account, so it has been temporarily suspended. Until we can verify your account information and reactivate your account, you may be unable to buy things from Google or use some Google products."

Google wants me to upload some documents to prove my location now or I lose access to YT Premium/Google account - cool cool.

 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-horizon-forbidden-west-hands-on-preview.543839/page-8#post-80890013

It looks a bit like DLC for the first game, tbh. I dunno. The machines look amazing, but I'm wary of whether the open world stuff will be worthwhile, or just more generic stuff, like in Zero Dawn. Those side missions were a big 'ol waste of time.

EDIT: Gonna leave the above unaltered (for posterity), but I'll also add this: I don't mean to ruin anyone's excitement for the game. If you're hyped for it, that's completely understandable. In the future, I'll be more considerate.

User warned: Antagonistic behavior towards another member

Dude, you suck... People like you are why the internet, and especially forums about games, are just terrible to read.

Do you have too much time or something? Is this all you have? If you don't like something, no problem, but don't make any incendiary comments. The arrogance you display with: "looks a bit like DLC tbh. I dunno" is just too ridiculous to be taken seriously.

I'm sure that looking at your comment history would be a good indication of what kind of person you are though. No idea why trolls aren't immediately banned into oblivion.

On topic: game looks amazing. February is gonna be a bit too much for my wallet though.

Imagine bending the knee for Sony Ponies

[marrec]

What’s more, they intentionally (well, probably not intentionally they’re probably just stupid) tell a so truncated version of some of Lincoln’s acts during the Civil War instead of Wilson’s blatantly unconstitutional proclamations leading up to and during WWI (or Teddys during WWII) as if implying that Lincoln was the only President bold enough to do what was needed because he recognized the evils of the confederacy and slavery instead of the truth that Presidential abuse of individual constitutional rights had been an increasingly common part of political cycles until very recently.

Back in Roosevelts Presidency the Patriot Act would have been an afterthought of a footnote within a much larger more all encompassing package of constitutional violations.

I guess you could say that the good thing about modern asymmetrical warfare is that it’s really reduced the reliance on public displays of constitutional violations in order to whip up nationalist fervor, thanks Oppenheimer!

FDR was WWII not Teddy.

How embarrassing.

But, to the point, the World Wars leave us with (at least) two legacies that live on in awkward ways along these lines. The Espionage Act being used to prosecute Assange for journalism are from the first World War, but worse in my opinion is the legacy of the Supreme Court ruling of Schenck from that time. It was the now overturned case upholding the power of the government to arrest people for opposing the draft in which they used the horrible shouting "fire" in a crowded theater analogy to justify arresting draft opponents. Yet despite being overturned in many ways people still use that justification constantly for why some speech they don't like now should be illegal. Joe Rogan takes horse medicine! (I know he didn't Nintex, calm down.) That's like shouting "fire" in a crowded theater! Arrest him!

The other legacy that comes to mind, from WWII, is the Supreme Court case of Korematsu, which upheld the interment of Americans (it was not just Japanese-Americans either) and has never been formally overruled. John Roberts can certainly condemn it and say the Court no longer finds it to be correct, but since it's still precedent and can only be challenged if the governments starts interning people again that's not exactly ideal.

For people so steeped in the all encompassing and endless legacy of the psychic harms of white supremacy, J.K. Rowling, and other problematic things, they often don't think about their "good" authoritarian actions beyond how it will only be used against the bad people in this specific instance this one time and never will be turned against innocents.

Even today you see a stark difference between the way people respond now to the Patriot Act and the way people will respond once DHSs C3P programs are fully implemented on local levels. The details of C3P are little changed from Bush and Obama era targeted monitoring of Muslims but instead encompassing a more broad mandate to prevent "internal domestic extremism".

It amounts to little more than citizens policing citizens for the benefit of federal law enforcement, but as long as that policing is focused on white extremism you won't hear a peep from progressives. I will, with 100% confidence, predict that when the ACLU brings a suit based on C3P enforcement that ERA will attack the people who are trying to defend their civil liberties.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-think-that-horizon-fws-main-villain-is-kinda-problematic.544163/

The main villain of Horizon FW was revealed recently as a female tribal leader named Regalla.

Regalla is played by a famous Black actress named Angela Bassett. This is what Regalla looks like:

Her face design is clearly inspired by indigenous face paint, right? Isn't that cultural appropriation?

It is usually a good thing when non-white VAs get prominent roles in games (especially big AAA ones) but this casting and other similar ones such as Miles Morales and Far Cry 6's dictator villain being played by Black men who aren't Hispanic give me pause because they're people taking on identities (to varying degrees) that are not their own.

 

12 hours later the good faith of the OP was determined as inadequate.

User Banned (1 Week): Concern Trolling; History of Similar Behaviour

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-you-man-enough-for-this-soda-not-for-women.544247/#post-80939402

Oof... It's weird seeing things like this and manscape ads and honestly wondering if they legitimately works on guys...

Then my sister in law tells me about the men she's dated where they go on fragile male ego rants...

Sounds like ResetEra.com

[jorma]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-think-that-horizon-fws-main-villain-is-kinda-problematic.544163/

The main villain of Horizon FW was revealed recently as a female tribal leader named Regalla.

Regalla is played by a famous Black actress named Angela Bassett. This is what Regalla looks like:

Her face design is clearly inspired by indigenous face paint, right? Isn't that cultural appropriation?

It is usually a good thing when non-white VAs get prominent roles in games (especially big AAA ones) but this casting and other similar ones such as Miles Morales and Far Cry 6's dictator villain being played by Black men who aren't Hispanic give me pause because they're people taking on identities (to varying degrees) that are not their own.

 

12 hours later the good faith of the OP was determined as inadequate.

User Banned (1 Week): Concern Trolling; History of Similar Behaviour

well it was either that or banning a bunch of protected class users for dismissing concerns 

[Pissy F Benny]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-horizon-forbidden-west-hands-on-preview.543839/page-8#post-80890013

It looks a bit like DLC for the first game, tbh. I dunno. The machines look amazing, but I'm wary of whether the open world stuff will be worthwhile, or just more generic stuff, like in Zero Dawn. Those side missions were a big 'ol waste of time.

EDIT: Gonna leave the above unaltered (for posterity), but I'll also add this: I don't mean to ruin anyone's excitement for the game. If you're hyped for it, that's completely understandable. In the future, I'll be more considerate.

User warned: Antagonistic behavior towards another member

Dude, you suck... People like you are why the internet, and especially forums about games, are just terrible to read.

Do you have too much time or something? Is this all you have? If you don't like something, no problem, but don't make any incendiary comments. The arrogance you display with: "looks a bit like DLC tbh. I dunno" is just too ridiculous to be taken seriously.

I'm sure that looking at your comment history would be a good indication of what kind of person you are though. No idea why trolls aren't immediately banned into oblivion.

On topic: game looks amazing. February is gonna be a bit too much for my wallet though.

Imagine bending the knee for Sony Ponies

lol imagine flipping out that hard over what seems to be an accurate sentiment

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/damon-albarn-blur-gorillaz-claims-taylor-swift-doesnt-write-her-own-songs-gets-called-out-by-swift-blames-clickbait.543689/#post-80863715

I mean, she says she does, so what reason do you have to question? You think she's just incapable of writing her own songs?

User Banned (Duration Pending Review): Sexism; History of Trolling and Prior Ban for Racism

She has an image to protect? I certainly believe she's wrote many but not every single one

Confirmed, you can be racist towards yts

[SmokyDave]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/petition-to-ban-nft-and-crypto-shilling-on-era.544358/

Man, what part of 'we ain't banning shit unless Kyuuji tells us to' don't these cats understand 

STOP LETTING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THINGS AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE NEWS IN WAYS I DON'T LIKE.

Fucking dishrags.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-you-man-enough-for-this-soda-not-for-women.544247/#post-80939402

Oof... It's weird seeing things like this and manscape ads and honestly wondering if they legitimately works on guys...

Then my sister in law tells me about the men she's dated where they go on fragile male ego rants...

Sounds like ResetEra.com

Dr. Pepper 10 was just a psyop to get alpha males soypilled into drinking diet soft drinks (and it worked). It was Step 2 of Femboy Indoctrination, after tricking men into showering and shaving.

[marrec]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/petition-to-ban-nft-and-crypto-shilling-on-era.544358/

Man, what part of 'we ain't banning shit unless Kyuuji tells us to' don't these cats understand 

STOP LETTING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THINGS AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE NEWS IN WAYS I DON'T LIKE.

Fucking dishrags.

Just wait until it comes out that NFTs are transphobic, then release the Kyuuji.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-you-man-enough-for-this-soda-not-for-women.544247/#post-80939402

Oof... It's weird seeing things like this and manscape ads and honestly wondering if they legitimately works on guys...

Then my sister in law tells me about the men she's dated where they go on fragile male ego rants...

Sounds like ResetEra.com

Dr. Pepper 10 was just a psyop to get alpha males soypilled into drinking diet soft drinks (and it worked). It was Step 2 of Femboy Indoctrination, after tricking men into showering and shaving.

Confirmed, I started drinking Coke Zero and then started to have weird side effects like "feelings" and "empathy". Don't be like me y'all only drink full sugar sodas!

[SmokyDave]

I bought an 'infinity' tealight candle holder and my missus called me a homophobic term.

Just whilst we're getting this stuff off our chests, all safe and valid and whatnot.

[Uncle]

I bought an 'infinity' tealight candle holder and my missus called me a homophobic term.

Just whilst we're getting this stuff off our chests, all safe and valid and whatnot.

dude 

[BIONIC]

LGBTQIA+/MOGAI

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MOREGAY

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I don’t understand this reference 

And more importantly, why it got so many likes 

[HaughtyFrank]

I bought an 'infinity' tealight candle holder and my missus called me a homophobic term.

Just whilst we're getting this stuff off our chests, all safe and valid and whatnot.

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dude 

Guys we should like all meet and show off our candle holders

[Kurt Russell]

I bought an 'infinity' tealight candle holder and my missus called me a homophobic term.

What makes you so sure those two events are related?

[SmokyDave]

Double posted because I'm thicker than Daniella Westbrook's snot. Apologies.

[SmokyDave]

I bought an 'infinity' tealight candle holder and my missus called me a homophobic term.

What makes you so sure those two events are related?

Well, I'm not sure now. That 'and' reads totally different now you've drawn my attention to it.

To be honest, I feel better. When I thought she was slagging off my candle-holder I was reassessing my views on the use of violence in the relationship. It's like magic. A procession of flames all dancing together in harmony. Sometimes I think I should buy scented tealights but I'm worried that oils or vapours might stain the mirrors.

I don’t understand this reference

Mogwai. That's a Mogwai.

It ruins the Karl Pilkington "what were them things in Gremlins called?" when you know their real name though, so be careful before you read this post.