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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24300 on: July 10, 2022, 12:50:46 PM »
Yea if I see someone else say “Dems do something!” I’m going to scream at them “well YOU do fucking something!”
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24301 on: July 10, 2022, 01:00:54 PM »
I'm pretty sure they are all on Twitter right now hunting him down to see what "problematic" Tweets they can dig up to dismiss him and get the thread locked.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page2#post-89782746


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Browsing this guy's Twitter is going about as I expected.

https://twitter.com/CJFerguson1111



Like clock work. They're so predictable :lol

He found a real life ERA poster fight.
https://twitter.com/CJFerguson1111/status/1543360595210149890

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« Reply #24302 on: July 10, 2022, 01:02:41 PM »
Yea if I see someone else say “Dems do something!” I’m going to scream at them “well YOU do fucking something!”
Except violence trying to start a revolution. That's not an acceptable something. Only voting.

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« Reply #24303 on: July 10, 2022, 01:04:20 PM »
A lot of words seemed to be "reclaimed" these days.  IE:  "Fascism" now doesn't mean an authoritative nationalist gov't with no checks on power.  It's now, "right wing" even in a democratically elected body.  "Sexual deviant" can mean literally anything, but I'm just interested in hearing what exactly it is.  Like I said, it used to mean homosexuality or transsexuality, but they obviously don't mean it in that way.  It can't mean s&m because that would be kink-shaming.  So what does it mean now?!
Rapists. His girlfriend showed him a video game character with exposed thigh arteries and now he's a rapist.

Remember too that rape is a spectrum of meanings as there are a wide variety of things that are rape many of which don't include physical contact nor even need people to meet in the real world.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/

Let's see how long this thread lasts
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Plus, when the article uses "moral panic" and "females" and then completely undermines itself by mentioning the studies aren't very good, I'm giving the side eye.

I don't think asking designers not to cater towards horndog teenager level harmonies level of embarrassing designs for women is really "moral panic".
They talk about this as if it's rampant and in nearly every game but their own thread dedicated to this moral panic serious issue basically retreads the same series over and over when it's not bringing up random mobile games nobody else has heard of but everyone is always offended about the depravity of.

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« Reply #24304 on: July 10, 2022, 01:10:55 PM »
I'm pretty sure they are all on Twitter right now hunting him down to see what "problematic" Tweets they can dig up to dismiss him and get the thread locked.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page2#post-89782746


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Browsing this guy's Twitter is going about as I expected.

https://twitter.com/CJFerguson1111



Like clock work. They're so predictable :lol

He found a real life ERA poster fight.
https://twitter.com/CJFerguson1111/status/1543360595210149890
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« Reply #24305 on: July 10, 2022, 01:23:40 PM »
that's just your white colonizer mindset talking

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24306 on: July 10, 2022, 01:25:16 PM »
Such a strange calm rage. He's screaming but at the same time I'd be surprised if he'd hit anyone

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« Reply #24307 on: July 10, 2022, 01:26:44 PM »
You mean, kinda like when a woman gets angry?

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« Reply #24308 on: July 10, 2022, 01:32:30 PM »
You mean, kinda like when a woman gets angry?
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« Reply #24310 on: July 10, 2022, 01:45:50 PM »
Such a strange calm rage. He's screaming but at the same time I'd be surprised if he'd hit anyone

both of them know they're either being filmed or going to be filmed, so they're both performatively making sure if it goes viral its the other person that will get cancelled for having a coloniser mindset / being part of the oppressive patriarchy.

Thats why that dudes shouting to the crowd so much, so the news cycle isn't 'asshole driver cuts woman off', its 'karen abuses her white privilege'

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24311 on: July 10, 2022, 01:47:16 PM »
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my little brother became a sexual deviant because of the media his new girlfriend was showing him

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I desperately want to know what that poster considers deviant sexual behavior.  Cause I bet just having a girlfriend and having sex is basically what that dude means.

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« Reply #24312 on: July 10, 2022, 02:16:51 PM »
I desperately want to know what that poster considers deviant sexual behavior.  Cause I bet just having a girlfriend and having sex is basically what that dude means.
Not to mention what "the media" his girlfriend showed that led to this. How can someone drop a post like that and nobody even responds asking questions about it?

In any case, our heroes are onto both the "academic" and the OP:
Dude unironically moans about wokism, Critical Race Theory, calls the anti-racism movement in 2020 a moral panic and that narratives on race are mistaken, believes hate crimes are rare in the US, thinks free speech is being ruined because universities aren't allowing bigots to talk, supports Rowling and pushes transphobic rhetoric.

Yet I'm supposed to think his study comes from a place of earnest when the outcome is to boldly claim that actually, sexualisation of women and girls in games isn't an issue.
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Fucking big yikes
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where did TC come across this article.
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A meticulously inaccurate way of framing sexism and misogyny in order to ensure the conclusion is that "sexualisation isn't bad," "anyone who complains is just attacking video games" and "this is just moral panic."

Whether this was deliberate on the author's part or genuine ignorance, now look, there's a study to link to the next time someone wants to attack criticism on representation of female characters, how convenient!
It’s most definitely deliberate.
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This feels like one of those threads where the OP is just never going to post in it while the thread itself eventually gets locked because there's no way to escape the implied subtweeting of "see all you people complaining about this are just complaining about nothing, up yours woke moralists" without any actual arguments to discuss instead.
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Genuinely seems like OP was either trying to "hide their power level" or genuinely was not aware that this "study" came from someone who's fucked in the head.
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Christopher Ferguson was pretty instrumental in breaking down the stigma of violent games in academia. Reading his Twitter now is a big yikes though. I'm sure he feels like he's a level headed European denouncing both sides of the hyper partisan US, but the middle ground in the US is pretty far right.
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The only folks I've seen referring to this "study" are some real shitheads with real bad opinions. You know, the whole "this game is woke because there is a woman in it" crowd.

Looking at this fool's Twitter, that seems to be his preferred audience.

And it turns out that video games do lead to violence even though no study has replicated that claim either:
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Wow, thank goodness the media we consume doesn't have any effect on us. Brilliant stuff.

Did you hear? Propaganda doesn't work either!
This is all really good news. We don’t have to worry any more about racism in fiction, either, presumably.

Also, the whole thing is also a woman problem and we need to force them to do better:
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And sadly this isn't just a men designing women problem; I've seen over the years women also fall into the mentality that unattractive or non-"sexy" women shouldn't be in games as well.
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Which is a very good reason why, at the end of the day, there needs to be a wider spectrum of body types positively depicted in gaming.

Some people may try to respond to criticism of sexualization by claiming such critics want to get rid of all conventionally attractive women in media, which is just a fallacy. At the end of the day, it's about expanding the scope of what is considered acceptable and making sure more players will feel welcome.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24313 on: July 10, 2022, 02:27:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page-3#post-89783724
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And sadly this isn't just a men designing women problem; I've seen over the years women also fall into the mentality that unattractive or non-"sexy" women shouldn't be in games as well.

"Why do people want to look at attractive characters instead of ugly ones?  I don't understand!"
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24314 on: July 10, 2022, 02:31:04 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page-3#post-89786394
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This topic should be closed, and it's beyond irresponsible that it's still open. The flaws of the analysis are transparent, and the source is a reactionary pop psychologist . He wrote a fucking evolutionary psychology paper of moral panics. Use a modicum of skepticism, people.
:rage :social :social2 :ltg :gamergate :tinfoil

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The main author apparently has some pretty dodgy personal opinions, but the authors all come from pretty good research groups, and CiHB is one of the best journals in the field (impact factor of 9, which is extremely high for psychology).

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24315 on: July 10, 2022, 02:33:06 PM »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24316 on: July 10, 2022, 02:35:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page-3#post-89786394
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This topic should be closed, and it's beyond irresponsible that it's still open. The flaws of the analysis are transparent, and the source is a reactionary pop psychologist . He wrote a fucking evolutionary psychology paper of moral panics. Use a modicum of skepticism, people.
Mmm telling people to use skepticism (against the paper and one of its authors) in a "beyond irresponsible" thread where everyone is rejecting the paper they haven't read because they don't like the conclusions nor a single author. :delicious

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« Reply #24317 on: July 10, 2022, 02:42:02 PM »
He found a real life ERA poster fight.
https://twitter.com/CJFerguson1111/status/1543360595210149890

you say"coloniser" and I hear "winner"

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Yeah, that's such a weird insult. Our colonizing days are literally called: "The Golden Century".
The wokes are desperately trying to paint it into a negative light.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24318 on: July 10, 2022, 02:59:47 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page-3#post-89786394
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This topic should be closed, and it's beyond irresponsible that it's still open. The flaws of the analysis are transparent, and the source is a reactionary pop psychologist . He wrote a fucking evolutionary psychology paper of moral panics. Use a modicum of skepticism, people.
:rage :social :social2 :ltg :gamergate :tinfoil

They haven't shown a single flaw. Literally every critic is of the author himself (who didn't even write the study by himself)

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24319 on: July 10, 2022, 03:21:00 PM »
I'm really interested to know what a "sexual deviant" is.  Because I grew up understanding that term to be homosexuals and transsexuals from dipshit religious extremists.  But I guess these guys got ahold of that term and reclaimed it like the N word?
It's someone who enjoys sex and sexuality shitlord. Their little brother is deviating from the Reeeeesetera accepted standard of being housebound and wanking furiously to paedo anime and furry porn.
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« Reply #24320 on: July 10, 2022, 03:21:43 PM »
They haven't shown a single flaw.
Uh, the conclusions named in the abstract (that we don't know the specifics of) show that it's obviously clearly transparently flawed. Maybe if the conclusions were the opposite and thus correct we'd know that the analysis is good. Why would we think the analysis is good if it comes to blatantly wrong anti-scientific conclusions?

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« Reply #24321 on: July 10, 2022, 03:22:12 PM »
psychic damage
We in Warhammer 40K now, Breh

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She can rub that boob armour in my face anytime
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24322 on: July 10, 2022, 03:31:54 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page-3#post-89783724
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And sadly this isn't just a men designing women problem; I've seen over the years women also fall into the mentality that unattractive or non-"sexy" women shouldn't be in games as well.

"Why do people want to look at attractive characters instead of ugly ones?  I don't understand!"
:aloy
How many unattractive people star in Marvel movies?
 :dunno
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24323 on: July 10, 2022, 03:37:35 PM »
I'm pretty sure they are all on Twitter right now hunting him down to see what "problematic" Tweets they can dig up to dismiss him and get the thread locked.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page2#post-89782746


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Browsing this guy's Twitter is going about as I expected.

https://twitter.com/CJFerguson1111



Like clock work. They're so predictable :lol

He found a real life ERA poster fight.
https://twitter.com/CJFerguson1111/status/1543360595210149890
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I wanna whip that dudes ass so bad, what a fucking jabroni :badass
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24324 on: July 10, 2022, 03:43:06 PM »
How many unattractive people star in Marvel movies?
 :dunno
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« Reply #24325 on: July 10, 2022, 03:43:07 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page-3#post-89783724
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And sadly this isn't just a men designing women problem; I've seen over the years women also fall into the mentality that unattractive or non-"sexy" women shouldn't be in games as well.

"Why do people want to look at attractive characters instead of ugly ones?  I don't understand!"
:aloy
How many unattractive people star in Marvel movies?
 :dunno

If you go full nerd on the subject, it makes perfect sense for all these characters to be in peak physical condition anyway- you're not gonna get very far fighting bad guys, monsters, and aliens if you're not keeping yourself in shape.
:rollsafe

"But what about the scantily-clad costumes!?"  What about them?  It's fucking fantasy- who gives a shit about realism in a world where people are flying around and shooting lasers out of their hands and shit?
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« Reply #24326 on: July 10, 2022, 03:43:36 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page-3#post-89789061

And locked. Author is branded a "right-wing chud" by Nep nep. Any mention of the study is now likely verboten. The promise to go through the thread and ban anyone posting any agreement with the study is under way.

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« Reply #24327 on: July 10, 2022, 03:45:12 PM »
How many unattractive people star in Marvel movies?
 :dunno
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24328 on: July 10, 2022, 03:45:28 PM »
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Firmament1 also can the OP be updated? The author of the study is a deeply bigoted person, as shown on his Twitter account. I don't think his judgements and conclusions should be taken seriously. Reading his Twitter, I think it's kind of gross to give him a platform on Era.
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Literally declaring published journal articles off-limits because of a single actual academic author.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24329 on: July 10, 2022, 03:53:36 PM »
"But what about the scantily-clad costumes!?"  What about them?  It's fucking fantasy- who gives a shit about realism in a world where people are flying around and shooting lasers out of their hands and shit?

people with amazing physiques really fucking hate showing them off, which is why if you go to the beach all you see are shapeless victorian onesies

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« Reply #24330 on: July 10, 2022, 03:56:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page-3#post-89789061

And locked. Author is branded a "right-wing chud" by Nep nep. Any mention of the study is now likely verboten. The promise to go through the thread and ban anyone posting any agreement with the study is under way.

We can add remote viewing of character analysis to their super powers along with being able to determine skin colour and blood alcohol levels over the internet.

Oh, and the physical incapability of ever being wrong, obviously.

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« Reply #24331 on: July 10, 2022, 03:56:49 PM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/i-am-leaving-goodbye-gaf.1638897/#post-266363855
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I got a warning in the "Will God of War Ragnarok be delayed? Avatar bet" thread
Thus i am locked out of the thread and cannot reply to any post
What kind of Bullshit is that?

But anyways God of War Ragnarok will release in 2023
So all you sons of bitches that i argue with in that thread can kiss my ass for being weak minded fucks that can't handle a gaming discussion

And Mods do better ok & actually let people have a discussion without thinking everyone that has a different view is trolling ok
At this rate so many of the people that give the site traffic and having discussion will all be gone like me
And all that left will be a echo chamber of yes men only

Im out...
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« Reply #24332 on: July 10, 2022, 03:57:37 PM »
Missed this post earlier in the thread:
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This is how I feel. Sexist shitheads playing these games are obviously going to be sexist shitheads, but playing and enjoying these games is not going to inherently turn someone into a sexist shithead if they already know right-from-wrong.
The rabbit hole is much more complex imo. Like maybe someone plays Xenoblade 2 and enjoys it, sees people complaining about the game on twitter, sees a recommended youtube video about how SJW complainers are ruining videogames, then that connects to the ben shapiro, jordan peterson, joe rogan pipeline.
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« Reply #24333 on: July 10, 2022, 03:58:37 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mangaka-akamatsu-ken-won-election-for-japan-house-of-councilers.605988/#post-89775576
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It should, considering he outright made a propaganda manga for his campaign, presenting himself and another rep as Dragon Quest-esque heroes defending the traditional magical girl against a dark skinned, angelic figure called 'Libera' who attacks with such abilities as 'Affirmative Action' and 'Supererogation'
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So a racist and defender of child pornography? What a combo
Pretty much ResetEra

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« Reply #24334 on: July 10, 2022, 03:58:56 PM »
Missed this post earlier in the thread:
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This is how I feel. Sexist shitheads playing these games are obviously going to be sexist shitheads, but playing and enjoying these games is not going to inherently turn someone into a sexist shithead if they already know right-from-wrong.
The rabbit hole is much more complex imo. Like maybe someone plays Xenoblade 2 and enjoys it, sees people complaining about the game on twitter, sees a recommended youtube video about how SJW complainers are ruining videogames, then that connects to the ben shapiro, jordan peterson, joe rogan pipeline.
:science

Liking anime tiddies = gateway to the alt right.  Got it, thanks reeeee.
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« Reply #24335 on: July 10, 2022, 03:59:07 PM »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24336 on: July 10, 2022, 04:00:59 PM »
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Firmament1 also can the OP be updated? The author of the study is a deeply bigoted person, as shown on his Twitter account. I don't think his judgements and conclusions should be taken seriously. Reading his Twitter, I think it's kind of gross to give him a platform on Era.
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Literally declaring published journal articles off-limits because of a single actual academic author.

Fucking insane but really nothing is a surprise anymore with RE

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« Reply #24337 on: July 10, 2022, 04:03:48 PM »
HEADLINE: "Group of scientists cures cancer..."
KYUUJI: "Well, wait, I saw this on one of the authors Twitter..."
NEPENTHE: "LOCKED. Don't post bigoted shit from the alt-right. Some of ya'll going to get actioned for supporting this too."

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« Reply #24338 on: July 10, 2022, 04:10:31 PM »
It seems like it would go without saying that if you held genuine concern about possible links between media portrayal in the media you consume (the media you consume enough of that you have multiple thousands of posts on a fucking website dedicated to that medium), you would welcome legitimate scientific study into those links, and especially research that shows those links to not be causal.

Because that would mean a thing you enjoy isn't also fucking you up.

That would seem obvious to a rational mind. You know, one that actually cares about these things more than being proven wrong about something.

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« Reply #24339 on: July 10, 2022, 04:14:12 PM »
Funny part for me personally is that I'm actually quite skeptical about meta-analysis in general but that thread only had people explaining it and defending it when someone was skeptical of it as a process yet they still locked the thread because of something completely unrelated to whether or not the academic research is valid, namely that "the author" is "deeply bigoted" which has nothing to do with the other authors, the journal, or the peer-review that accepted the research. :lol

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« Reply #24340 on: July 10, 2022, 04:29:45 PM »
Yea if I see someone else say “Dems do something!” I’m going to scream at them “well YOU do fucking something!”
Except violence trying to start a revolution. That's not an acceptable something. Only voting.

Well, at the start of the current thread and year...
If we're being honest, the kind of violence we're talking here isn't the same as the violence used in the past to make things better.

It's an oppressive violence.
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« Reply #24342 on: July 10, 2022, 05:03:43 PM »
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So, that's not really what I mean to do. I'm more criticizing the peer pressure that comes from men in constantly sliding into DMs and asking for nudes and how that can lead women to make choices they might not be 100% comfortable with and how we probably need to have a reckoning on that front.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitch-streamer-amouranth-reveals-she-made-33-million-on-onlyfans.606078/post-89791344

This seems like a strange argument. Has anyone actually said that they felt pressured into doing OF because of Dms?

I get more of a feeling that B-dubs and that other guy have a hard time believing that women can make their own decisions

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24343 on: July 10, 2022, 05:06:33 PM »
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« Reply #24345 on: July 10, 2022, 05:14:18 PM »
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So, that's not really what I mean to do. I'm more criticizing the peer pressure that comes from men in constantly sliding into DMs and asking for nudes and how that can lead women to make choices they might not be 100% comfortable with and how we probably need to have a reckoning on that front.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitch-streamer-amouranth-reveals-she-made-33-million-on-onlyfans.606078/post-89791344

This seems like a strange argument. Has anyone actually said that they felt pressured into doing OF because of Dms?

I get more of a feeling that B-dubs and that other guy have a hard time believing that women can make their own decisions
Is he saying that some third party should be monitoring DMs and then there should be a "reckoning" of legal consequences for anyone who does this even if the woman doesn't object? Or just a ban from the service where the DMs occurred once the third party sees them and reports them to the service?

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« Reply #24346 on: July 10, 2022, 05:23:54 PM »
Someone post this over there, I need to see it brigaded and locked within minutes, can ZeoVGM get a hundred posts in before the staff lock it? It even comes from a ResetERA.com "approved source" in TheGamer:
In a thread titled "I am quite frankly sick and tired of working on Marvel shows", Reddit user Independent-Ad419 expressed their frustration with the studio. "Marvel has probably the worst methodology of production and VFX management out there", they write. "They can never fix the look for the show before more than half the allocated time for the show is over. The artists working on Marvel shows are definitely not paid equivalent to the amount of work they put in."

Others in the replies are quick to agree. "On Thor they ask for a complete mini-sequence 2 or 3 weeks before deadline", says samvfx2015.

Mickeym00m00's account is much the same: "I request to not work on [Marvel] movies and TV shows. Unfortunately, they're becoming our biggest client. They expect a smorgasbord of options so they can change their mind three more times."

Those who haven't been able to avoid working with Marvel confirm that it hasn't improved in recent years. "I'm on almost three years straight of Marvel. Welcome to the seventh level of hell". Another user shares that their time at Marvel has been a "black hole of sleep deprivation and eating bad".

Another thread from three months ago contains even more damning accounts of what it's like to work with Marvel. These allegations were shared when another VFX artist was disappointed to lose out on the opportunity to work with Marvel - something their industry peers reassured them was no great loss.

"I am on my third Marvel project in a row and literally just woke up 5:30 am on a Saturday with stress going 'I don't want to do this anymore'", writes RANDVR. "It's 6 am now and I am making a reel to apply someplace that has projects other than Marvel because I can't do this anymore."

Mickeym00m00 shared a particularly shocking account of their time working with the studio: "Marvel has seen grown men punch walls and throw monitors from stress. I broke down a couple of times and have seen the strain it can put on marriages. But hey the $$ was fantastic. Fuck Marvel as a client, the credit name is not fucking worth it."

Raistlinuk agrees: "It took me over six months to recover from WandaVision's crunch. It’s not worth it. Not when there’s better run projects that look just as good out there."

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« Reply #24347 on: July 10, 2022, 05:28:55 PM »
Don't forget about Crossing Eden who'll make 200 posts about how the CGI in marvel movies is actually perfect and those overworked artists are just lying

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« Reply #24348 on: July 10, 2022, 05:32:14 PM »
This is a creative take

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I am aware of all of these. I can't imagine what it's like to be a VFX artist and see your work be shat on by idiots online when you know that a) 90% of your work is astonishing and people get hung up on the few shots that were not as good and b) those shots were not your fault but were the result of ridiculous deadlines and last-minute changes by the studio.
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« Reply #24349 on: July 10, 2022, 05:49:34 PM »
This is a creative take

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I am aware of all of these. I can't imagine what it's like to be a VFX artist and see your work be shat on by idiots online when you know that a) 90% of your work is astonishing and people get hung up on the few shots that were not as good and b) those shots were not your fault but were the result of ridiculous deadlines and last-minute changes by the studio.

Yeah that's not fair but them's the breaks. People only judge a finished result and you're only as good as the weakest link. You don't really get singled out as a VFX artist by the general public, people in the biz know what's what and that won't effect employment because they know you're great at doing fluids and it has nothing to do with that other unrelated model.
The real pressure is not people on the Internet but the grueling deadlines from your bosses and clients. That's who you curse.
And really the long and short of that is, deadlines or budget : Less movies like that being made. The whole MCU thing as it exists now only is possible because of how Hollywood is pressing blood out of that VFX stone.
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« Reply #24351 on: July 10, 2022, 06:51:46 PM »
It seems like it would go without saying that if you held genuine concern about possible links between media portrayal in the media you consume (the media you consume enough of that you have multiple thousands of posts on a fucking website dedicated to that medium), you would welcome legitimate scientific study into those links, and especially research that shows those links to not be causal.

Because that would mean a thing you enjoy isn't also fucking you up.

That would seem obvious to a rational mind. You know, one that actually cares about these things more than being proven wrong about something.

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« Reply #24352 on: July 10, 2022, 07:26:52 PM »
Missed this post earlier in the thread:
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This is how I feel. Sexist shitheads playing these games are obviously going to be sexist shitheads, but playing and enjoying these games is not going to inherently turn someone into a sexist shithead if they already know right-from-wrong.
The rabbit hole is much more complex imo. Like maybe someone plays Xenoblade 2 and enjoys it, sees people complaining about the game on twitter, sees a recommended youtube video about how SJW complainers are ruining videogames, then that connects to the ben shapiro, jordan peterson, joe rogan pipeline.
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« Reply #24353 on: July 10, 2022, 08:00:11 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/florence-pugh-wants-us-to-free-the-fucking-nipple-🌸-nsfw.606177/

Thread not at all SFW was somehow inititally labeled as such, OP shocked to find this out plus this gem


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Good for her. Some men really need to get it together. NSFW shouldn't be determined by what gives men boners. And then there's those men who think women who don't turn them on should cover up completely when in public.

Ok, well, have fun explaining that to the boss as your ass is fired for looking at pictures, on a work computer, where you can see a woman’s nipples.

Thread even has a person posting a picture they took of two shirtless guys while they were out and about. I’m sure they totally asked the two guys if they could take a picture of them and then post it on a message board.

Oh and apparently the person who took the picture of the shirtless guys thinks you wouldn’t get fired for using the work computer to look at pictures of shirtless guys. Detached from reality. All of them.

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« Reply #24354 on: July 10, 2022, 08:07:01 PM »
B-Dubs showing closet conservativism while using woke language.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitch-streamer-amouranth-reveals-she-made-33-million-on-onlyfans.606078/post-89790261

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Let me ask this question about this specific situation: is this something she would have ever considered doing if not for thirsty guys sliding into her DMs and asking for nudes? If not, she was essentially pushed into it by them and the promise of making bank. In that way, it was a "choice" instead of something chosen.

Like, if this is something you actively choose to do and are completely comfortable with then that's awesome and more power to you. That said, if you aren't comfortable with it and "chose" to do it then that's not really a good thing and there should probably be a discussion about how guys can push girls into making an OnlyFans in subtle ways and how that is a form of exploitation.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitch-streamer-amouranth-reveals-she-made-33-million-on-onlyfans.606078/post-89791029

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It's really not. It's more to do with patriarchy and toxic masculinity. It's absolutely different from people going into programming or medicine.

This whole situation of chick making millions of dollars off thirsty dudes is the very opposite of 'toxic masculinity.'

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« Reply #24355 on: July 10, 2022, 08:16:51 PM »
SEX WORK IS REAL WORK but no woman should feel like she's doing it for men (even if she denies otherwise) or that's coercion by men.

Man: "I'd like to see you naked."
Woman: "Sure, her-"
BZZZT WRONG CHOICE WOMAN, GO DIRECTLY UNDER THE PRISON MAN


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« Reply #24357 on: July 10, 2022, 08:21:37 PM »
I'm enjoying the ride. There are seeds being planted. Every movie is a chess move. Characters are being put into roles. New characters are being made. People need to be patient. Feige hasn't suddenly forgot what made the previous phases such a smash hit.
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« Reply #24358 on: July 10, 2022, 08:28:21 PM »
The might of the ban hammer would crack the planet in half if that thread was about a woman of color making that much cash on onlyfans and people were doing anything besides praising her.

God those dweebs hate successful women. Especially successful women who are successful because they use their looks to make money. Thread goes so well with their meltdowns in that other  thread from earlier that was closed because it told them their dumbass bullshit about sexualized game characters harming anyone was in fact, bullshit.

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« Reply #24359 on: July 10, 2022, 08:40:29 PM »
Marvel trained audiences on this interconnected shit starting a decade ago. And despite people swearing they were glad that once the Thanos threat was dealt with that they could focus on smaller and less connected movies, turns out people were lying and just want what Avengers level threat happens next.

None of these problems with the Matt Reeves Batman trilogy. Three movies and done baby  :rejoice