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[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

  I also have to point out my own lived experience; I'm born and raised in South Central/Inglewood California. I know what a group of kids hanging out after hours and looking to get into trouble but not looking to kill anybody looks like. This looks more like that, and to be clear pointing that out is not erasing culpability.

This guy is something else.  "My lived experience".   

Royalan has already established his penchant for 3am subway

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-15#post-89743662

Yeah. There was a reason she was one of the people who survived Channel Awesome melting down on itself, and it's a tragedy she's gone. There really are people out there whose only joy in life seems to come from ripping other people to shreds.

It piss me off that Lindsay is still wary of calling what happened to her a cancellation. She has big ass audience in those circles that at least some could reflect about it and actually try to change attitude. But no, she is “HURRR HURRR IM WAS NOT CANCELLED DONT LEAVE ME BREAD TUBE”. This just reinforces the dissonance in assholes like the ones at RE.

She is intelligent enough to understand this, so this is just her being a cynic disingenuous cunt.

I think it's just her being smart.  Remember when ContraPoints girl did a Big Oof and was cancelled?


Exel before The Oof:  OMG, people are literally trying to kill her with words and saying they will send her on a rocket to the moon to die.  Where is the FBI?

Excel After: Uh, if she doesn't want to receive so call death threats (she did), why doesn't she just find a different job and stop posting on youtube.

[clothedmacuser]

  I also have to point out my own lived experience; I'm born and raised in South Central/Inglewood California. I know what a group of kids hanging out after hours and looking to get into trouble but not looking to kill anybody looks like. This looks more like that, and to be clear pointing that out is not erasing culpability.

This guy is something else.  "My lived experience".   

Lived Truth vs The Fact someone was murdered

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[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-5#post-89757042

Put them in Jail. They should be in jail for 20-25. This country continues to be shit.

The country continues to be shit with the highest prison incarceration rate in the world.

Maybe, just maybe, the country in part continues to be shit because all we do is send people to shitty jails ran by corporations and give them 20-25 with no rehabilitation or any form of assistance.

Sincerely want you to tell me what you expect these kids to do after being in jail for 20-25 years with no rehab or government help.

Coz I'll tell you what they'll do: something far worse than this because they're gonna be in their 30s with no money, no education, unable to get jobs because they've been sent to prison and have no education, unable to qualify for a bunch of assistance because they've been in prison and have no education.

Country is shit partially because instead of helping educate others or lend others aid we like to just lock them up and pretend they don't exist, then get really surprised that when they're unable to function in society after we pretend they don't exist that they do something worse to survive.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/have-you-been-harassed-for-wearing-a-mask.605877/#post-89756757

Happened to me the second time today. First time was in the peak of omicron, was wearing a mask through the drive thru and the person behind me kept talking shit about me wearing one.

Second time was just now. Walking out of the store, some prick in an American flag tank top yells out of his car yells “hey, why are you wearing that mask?” To which I reply “because I like it” (hoping to ignore and end the exchange there) only for him to yell as I walk away “no it’s because of fear you fucking pussy”.

I just kept walking to my car but was silently fuming. I wanted to go back there and say “actually I wear it to protect my son who has respiratory issues and my wife’s grandma who just got out of a weeklong stay at the hospital for heart failure” but truthfully I didn’t want to escalate it because I didn’t know if he was carrying or what he would do.

Anyway. People are assholes around here. Makes you wonder who the real snowflakes are if they’re so offended by something on my face. 🤔

OP because he was fuming lol

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-3#post-89741379

I watch this video, and I see a Lord of the Flies moment in real-time. What I don't see is the same ragtag group of murderers set out with the intent to kill that so many in here are insistent on seeing. And so, I will not use the same language to describe these kids that I would use to describe a ragtag group of murderers set out with the intent of kill. Because THOSE people exist. They're not a fictional archetype. There are cold-blooded killers in this world. We see evidence of this in threads posted on this site damn near weekly. This language should be reserved for them. Because when we use this language, and we start to see these kids (who went too far in some shit they shouldn't have been doing in the first place, which resulted in the death of a man, and yes THEY DESERVE CONSEQUENCES I will repeat) as no different than people who truly do revel and gloat over the idea of killing people, then we create the environment for every kid (and it is not inconsequential that these kids are Black) engaging in any level of illegality to be viewed and thus punished in this same light. We see this same language used to describe the origin of the fear of Black boy shot for stealing a soft drink from a convenience store. This language, used so wantonly, trickles down and becomes the reason it was OK for a bunch of white people to watch a police officer step on the back of a Black girl for acting rowdy at a public pool. The fear and hate that this language spawns becomes the reason why a Black boy in a hoodie, carrying nothing but skittles and an Arizona iced tea, doesn't make it home.

At first, I was going to focus on the last sentence of this because fatty here is leaving out an important part of information about what the "fear and hate that this language spawns" became in that instance.

Instead, now I need to know what he thinks is the plot and message of Lord of the Flies and why he thinks using that comparison should not only be a mitigating factor but also move the focus from an actual crime to the language being used in response to it. Maybe he could at least read the Wikipedia entry while at the buffet sometime? (FACT CHECK: ResetERA.com staff are required by their jobs to know everything about a topic so they can discern the correct opinion.)

[clothedmacuser]

^

I've been trying to wrap my brain around that one for three hours now.  I guess his only reference to Lord of the Flies is it's like Battle Royale or Hunger games?  And those are like this situation because young teens killed someone?

I think it's just a slayven moment that rivals slayven himself.


Also had it been an old white women beaten to death they would be saying, "74 isn't even old.  It's not even 75.  Which also isn't elderly."

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-15#post-89743662

Yeah. There was a reason she was one of the people who survived Channel Awesome melting down on itself, and it's a tragedy she's gone. There really are people out there whose only joy in life seems to come from ripping other people to shreds.

It piss me off that Lindsay is still wary of calling what happened to her a cancellation. She has big ass audience in those circles that at least some could reflect about it and actually try to change attitude. But no, she is “HURRR HURRR IM WAS NOT CANCELLED DONT LEAVE ME BREAD TUBE”. This just reinforces the dissonance in assholes like the ones at RE.

She is intelligent enough to understand this, so this is just her being a cynic disingenuous cunt.

I think it's just her being smart.  Remember when ContraPoints girl did a Big Oof and was cancelled?


Exel before The Oof:  OMG, people are literally trying to kill her with words and saying they will send her on a rocket to the moon to die.  Where is the FBI?

Excel After: Uh, if she doesn't want to receive so call death threats (she did), why doesn't she just find a different job and stop posting on youtube.

I will feel sympathy if she didnt contributed to these climate.

[Boredfrom]

I think what people are saying though is that you can both work on changing our societies systems to help prevent this from happening in the first place AND change the system to help prevent those who have caused hurt from not doing it again and possibly being productive in preventing others from doing so. It's not an either or thing.

We have the resources for both, we let these rich assholes in power convince us that we don't though as they horde and lobby to make shit harder for others.

You fucks cannot even have competent health care, and now you guys think you can rehabilate psychos  in a political climate where you cant pass anything. Neither gun control or mental health.

If these kids were white you all will be mocking the idea of ¨mentally ill young boy¨.

Thats why Nephente is a vile cunt, she tried to guilt trip everyone as anyone defended the Uvalde shooter in that forum, a shooter that was also part of a minority and in community of mostly latin american people.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/quest-2-will-no-longer-require-a-facebook-account-from-next-month-will-require-meta-account-instead-uploadvr.605052/page-4#post-89693865

Remember all those times Nintendo crash reports were used to facilitate genocide around the world? Or when Epic tracked pregnant women and steered them towards anti-abortion groups instead of healthcare providers? Or when Playstation used PS store purchase data to exclude Black people from rental searches in white neighborhoods? Or that time they tried to overthrow a (semi) democratic government at the behest of their nazi boardmembers?

Remember that? No? Cause just Facebook/Meta did those things. They don't just collect more of your info, they use it in vastly more malicious ways.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/quest-2-will-no-longer-require-a-facebook-account-from-next-month-will-require-meta-account-instead-uploadvr.605052/page-4#post-89694084

I’m patronizing a video game console, not their social media platform

https://www.resetera.com/threads/quest-2-will-no-longer-require-a-facebook-account-from-next-month-will-require-meta-account-instead-uploadvr.605052/page-4#post-89694267

Good for you Gamer!

Finding moral superiority over video games must be indicative of something deeper

https://www.resetera.com/threads/quest-2-will-no-longer-require-a-facebook-account-from-next-month-will-require-meta-account-instead-uploadvr.605052/page-5#post-89704392

User Banned (2 weeks): hostility towards another member over multiple posts

Keep defending a genocide enabling, democracy destroying regime. Brexit, Trump, Myanmar, Ethiopia and on and on, nothings off limits and everything's for sale.

Russia should release a next gen VR headset to get the GAMERS on side. They're a large enough group to get the free PR popping.

[Uncle]

^

I've been trying to wrap my brain around that one for three hours now.  I guess his only reference to Lord of the Flies is it's like Battle Royale or Hunger games?  And those are like this situation because young teens killed someone?

I think it's just a slayven moment that rivals slayven himself.


Also had it been an old white women beaten to death they would be saying, "74 isn't even old.  It's not even 75.  Which also isn't elderly."

my charitable assumption is based on the context from the previous paragraph:

I've watched this video, and there will be no convincing me that these kids set out with the intent to kill a man. I don't even see evidence in this video that these kids thought what was happening would result in this man dying (this does not absolve them, before anybody gets me fucked up). I see one overt aggressor; I see one poor girl who looks horrified from the start of the video until the end. I see the boy in the white shirt who's filming stop filming and look shocked when whatever happens when the girl with the cone runs off-screen happens. And then I see a group of other kids who look a mix of entertained, then complacent, then confused/shocked.

similarly, the boys get caught up in a mob frenzy where no one has any accountability and kill simon, then reflect in horror at what happened the next day

or you could interpret it as the sudden realization of the gravity of what they've done at the end as they start crying

the theme is kids going too far and then recoiling in horror

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-5#post-89758617
Former mod

Do we know anything about the teens in the video? How old could they possibly be?

Doesn't read OPs

[ShutUp]

Thor review thread

Remember when people treated reviews like reviews, and not a tool to fight a self-started discourse battle that has never mattered in any instance ever, and will be forgotten the second people walk away from it?

Once again, suddenly this kind of talk as it’s a Marvel movie on the receiving end. Where was this as their seething rage for Snyder repeatedly boiled over a few years ago just because his take on some cape flicks hurt their feelings?

[ShutUp]

Murder thread

Holy shit some of the replies here are ghoulish. Your gut feelings are not research about rehabilitation. You are not immune to propaganda about the US prison system. Stop letting unchecked kneejerk gut feelings and biases conjure up a fake reality.

 

The Spidey meme is what that thread has turned into. Holy fuck these responses.

And what fake reality? Did these teenagers laugh while murdering someone? Yes they did. Keep the same energy you’d have if they were white.

[ShutUp]

Who the hell is defending them?

Being able to pay attention to research and other real world justice systems and understand facts and reality =/= defending people. Just means some of us don't fall for US prison complex propaganda and don't let feels override reals.

You can not approve of what these kids did (especially the ones who actually murdered the man) and simultaneously understand the America prison complex is an abject failure of a system that actively harms American society with its intent of recidivism for profit via repeat crime rather than actually helping society improve through rehabilitation and assistance.

YOU are defending them.

And, again, better keep this same energy next time the murderers are white teens.

[ShutUp]

I think what people are saying though is that you can both work on changing our societies systems to help prevent this from happening in the first place AND change the system to help prevent those who have caused hurt from not doing it again and possibly being productive in preventing others from doing so. It's not an either or thing.

We have the resources for both, we let these rich assholes in power convince us that we don't though as they horde and lobby to make shit harder for others.

You fucks cannot even have competent health care, and now you guys think you can rehabilate psychos  in a political climate where you cant pass anything. Neither gun control or mental health.

If these kids were white you all will be mocking the idea of ¨mentally ill young boy¨.

Thats why Nephente is a vile cunt, she tried to guilt trip everyone as anyone defended the Uvalde shooter in that forum, a shooter that was also part of a minority and in community of mostly latin american people.

Thread from 2019. Killer was 27 but strangely no talk of rehabilitation or his mental health.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/police-white-man-reportedly-killed-teenager-because-teens-rap-music-made-suspect-feel-unsafe.127924/

[Propagandhim]

I think what people are saying though is that you can both work on changing our societies systems to help prevent this from happening in the first place AND change the system to help prevent those who have caused hurt from not doing it again and possibly being productive in preventing others from doing so. It's not an either or thing.

We have the resources for both, we let these rich assholes in power convince us that we don't though as they horde and lobby to make shit harder for others.

You fucks cannot even have competent health care, and now you guys think you can rehabilate psychos  in a political climate where you cant pass anything. Neither gun control or mental health.

If these kids were white you all will be mocking the idea of ¨mentally ill young boy¨.

Thats why Nephente is a vile cunt, she tried to guilt trip everyone as anyone defended the Uvalde shooter in that forum, a shooter that was also part of a minority and in community of mostly latin american people.

Thread from 2019. Killer was 27 but strangely no talk of rehabilitation or his mental health.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/police-white-man-reportedly-killed-teenager-because-teens-rap-music-made-suspect-feel-unsafe.127924/

Remember this one?  https://www.resetera.com/threads/buzzfeed-five-kids-ages-12-to-16-have-been-charged-with-killing-nashville-musician.98708/page-2

You can determine who was involved in the case by how many times "rehab" shows up in Ctrl+F .

[ShutUp]

From that thread

No, it's especially because they're still kids that rehab is absolutely necessary and still possible! Rehab works even for adults
Like you said they had no family! They had shit childhood, nobody to care for them , were probably influenced by bad people (kids are impresionnable, you should know that) and we're supposed to just give up and let them rot? Great soceity you have there


Again not saying what they didn't isn't terrible, they should definitely face the consequences, but they shouldn't be tried as adult and should get help, juvies are there for that! These are kids, 12-13 years old, they're far from done in term of developpment and mentality

Excuse after excuse after excuse to defend murder. And this was after those kids were thrown out of the court room for their behavior of not giving a shit about what they had done.

Clearly some rehabilitation for a while will clear that all up.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/breaking-elon-musk-officially-tries-to-bail-on-buying-twitter.605601/page-9#post-89733903

Love how Era went from doomposting about the absolute dystopian hellhole an Musk owned Twitter would be to goading the man to pay up and take the biggest L in his life.

For reals

[ShutUp]

None of them were ever leaving even if Elon went through with buying it. The fuck they gonna go? Back to Facebook and come across the Trump boomer crowd?  Instagram where the sexualized characters brigade would come across some women shaking their asses for likes and all go into shock? 

Just more performative BS they would never follow through on.

[cosmicblizzard]

If you want to go all in on the rehab argument, go for it.  I don't entirely know where I stand on that, so I won't attack anyone for it.  But I don't believe for one second the people in there talking about rehab would say the same if it was white teens killing an elderly black man.  Their support for actual change like this is conditional, just like how they'll waver on getting rid of the death penalty when indefensible people are involved (especially if there's a racial component) like Dylan Roof.

Thordinson at least seems consistent on this based on what I've seen elsewhere of him.

[clothedmacuser]

Teenagers beat man to death for fun


Era: OMG, were they Black teens or White teens?

[benita]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/

Im seeing a lot of outrage here but do we even know the political leanings of the "victim"?

[NegativeCrepe]

If you want to go all in on the rehab argument, go for it.  I don't entirely know where I stand on that, so I won't attack anyone for it.  But I don't believe for one second the people in there talking about rehab would say the same if it was white teens killing an elderly black man.  Their support for actual change like this is conditional, just like how they'll waver on getting rid of the death penalty when indefensible people are involved (especially if there's a racial component) like Dylan Roof.

its already happening in that thread

the buffalo shooter cant be rehabbed

I don't think you can rehabilitate that level of racism and sheer hatred

[BadAss2961]

Nepenthe "Black Mistakes" Administrator

 

[BIONIC]

You guys missed out on Operation Red Mercury downplaying another act of senseless violence recently (you will never guess what their race is!), but even the usual suspects couldn’t figure out a way to spin one. One dude calls his dumbass out, but of course the thread dies immediately

https://www.resetera.com/threads/1-25-for-extra-sauce-brawl-erupts-over-nyc-restaurant-french-fry-rule-3-arrested.605598/page-2#post-89733318

Not really much to say here, drunk people did a dumb thing.

It feels like something they reported on because it will go viral on facebook from people with profile pictures sitting in their truck with sunglasses and a hat being racist as fuck, or boomers lamenting the "state of today's youth". I checked a few news sites that have comments enabled and that shit is the vast majority of them. Hate drives clicks, that's the entire purpose of this story being spread around I think. I don't see many news stories about the huge block party the owner held when they opened in the midst of covid lockdowns that I'm sure sucked for the people living in that neighborhood but I guess that isn't as sensational and somehow not as important https://boweryboogie.com/2020/06/despite-lockdown-bel-fries-overcrowded-ludlow-street-with-a-major-party-on-sunday/

Now obviously I'm not saying that event 2 years ago is related to or even justification for what happened here, it just makes me side eye a bit on the motives for this story being widely reported on and blowing up yet the other having virtually no coverage.

What does the 2 years old story has to do with anything? What are you talking about?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/big-brazilian-e3-like-games-festival-forbids-game-dev-from-doing-anti-nft-talk-game-dev-tricks-them-and-does-it-anyway.605787/#post-89745948

Hopefully this is just a joke post.

We'll move to fully digital currency at some point, but it won't be crypto.

With all due respect you're being delusional if you think I was joking, I still remember people saying internet was the worst thing humankind had ever created, look at us now.

 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thor-love-and-thunder-reviews.604104/page-21#post-89768433

Some of the jokes were distasteful too. Thor getting completely disrobbed against his will is not very funny or appropriate at the current age we live in. He said he didn't mind afterwards but it still didn't felt right.

[VomKriege]

Even the vaunted Black Panthers led to nearly 30 years of reactionary political victories, as opposed to a great victory.

I see this forum is overrun with Russian trolls again prepping for midterms. Like clockwork.
Fuck all of you

[VomKriege]

Quit being angry that dad is the one beating you so you take it out on mom.

I've seen that analogy a couple of times in PoliERA and huh well maybe it's not a winner to suggest the two major parties are parents in a couple where the child is abused.

[VomKriege]

Also just weird implications.

[Snoopycat_]

Thats why Nephente is a vile cunt, she tried to guilt trip everyone as anyone defended the Uvalde shooter in that forum, a shooter that was also part of a minority and in community of mostly latin american people.

Nep Nep is so racist that when she calls Latin Americans white adjacent, what she's really doing is stripping their race from them.

[Taco Bell Tower]

You guys missed out on Operation Red Mercury downplaying another act of senseless violence recently (you will never guess what their race is!), but even the usual suspects couldn’t figure out a way to spin one. One dude calls his dumbass out, but of course the thread dies immediately

https://www.resetera.com/threads/1-25-for-extra-sauce-brawl-erupts-over-nyc-restaurant-french-fry-rule-3-arrested.605598/page-2#post-89733318

Not really much to say here, drunk people did a dumb thing.

It feels like something they reported on because it will go viral on facebook from people with profile pictures sitting in their truck with sunglasses and a hat being racist as fuck, or boomers lamenting the "state of today's youth". I checked a few news sites that have comments enabled and that shit is the vast majority of them. Hate drives clicks, that's the entire purpose of this story being spread around I think. I don't see many news stories about the huge block party the owner held when they opened in the midst of covid lockdowns that I'm sure sucked for the people living in that neighborhood but I guess that isn't as sensational and somehow not as important https://boweryboogie.com/2020/06/despite-lockdown-bel-fries-overcrowded-ludlow-street-with-a-major-party-on-sunday/

Now obviously I'm not saying that event 2 years ago is related to or even justification for what happened here, it just makes me side eye a bit on the motives for this story being widely reported on and blowing up yet the other having virtually no coverage.

What does the 2 years old story has to do with anything? What are you talking about?

Hey. Grown ass adults.

Just because your fucking tantrums worked on your parents as a child to get your way, doesn't mean you should continue using the same method on other adults when you (supposedly) grow up.

It's just dipping sauce. Dipping sauce. You're going to put it in your mouth and poop it out later. This is nothing worth going this far for.

[HaughtyFrank]

Also just weird implications.

It would mean Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell are fucking 

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/

Let's see how long this thread lasts

[BikeJesus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/

Edit: beaten like a poliera child.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/

Let's see how long this thread lasts

I dunno. Rampant sexualization definitely does psychic damage to me. That may not be a scientific finding, but just because it hasn't be scientifically proven to be traumatizing people doesn't mean we should throw our hands up and let devs and artists continue to be creepy perv weirdos and treat their female characters like garbage.

Devs could also learn how to better make points without relying on ultra-realistic ultraviolence.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/post-89779653

I'm sure this failed clown school graduate has mental issues, it has nothing to do with videogames though

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2022-ot-1-build-back-later.533906/post-89764140

You are batshit crazy and want far more death and chaos.

Well that’s not nice unless you mean I’m batshit crazy about preserving reproductive rights and everything else the right wing wants to destroy. In that case: absolutely!

yeah I'm crazy, if by crazy you mean CRAZY ABOUT GETTING YOU A GOOD DEAL ON THIS GENTLY USED CAMARO

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/

Let's see how long this thread lasts

After simply reading the excerpts in the OP, I feel like the basis of the study is flawed.

forum that regularly condemns armchair researchers cherry-picking bad science to support their existing views, "you are not a scientist, listen to the actual scientists"

 

It's hard to take this seriously from someone's whose academic page looks like this.

lol lol let's judge the validity of data based on ancillary junk and ad hominem this loser

 

[HaughtyFrank]

Plus, when the article uses "moral panic" and "females" and then completely undermines itself by mentioning the studies aren't very good, I'm giving the side eye.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/post-89780238
Two well defined terms used in a scientific study. Very sus indeed.

I'm getting brain damage from these dumb takes

Edit: there's even more posts concluding the study is bad because the author uses "females" 

[Propagandhim]

ideology is a hell of a drug

[SmokyDave]

There should probably be a word for people that can’t change their views in response to contrary evidence.

[benjipwns]

don't let feels override reals.

Yikes. Ben Shapiro dogwhistle.

a system that actively harms American society with its intent of recidivism for profit via repeat crime rather than actually helping society improve through rehabilitation and assistance.

It's always funny when these experts on the American justice system think that for-proft private prisons are anything but a tiny minority limited to select states.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

"Maybe they're just anarchists who are talking about the profit that is theft by the state?"

You're not allowed to talk to me anymore.

[close]

[benjipwns]

It's hard to take this seriously from someone's whose academic page looks like this.

Has he never seen academics self-created home pages before?

I'll wait until someone shares his Twitter likes to determine whether or not I believe this study.

[Propagandhim]

I've seen his Spotify playlists.  He's not using proper z-scores.

[HaughtyFrank]

Considering what we know of the effects from over and hyper sexualised models of femininity in media in general I'd be curious to know why video games would be the exception.

Maybe because videogames are clearly marked as fictional? 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/

Let's see how long this thread lasts

 

THIS THREAD IS A FUCKING GOLDMINE

I dunno. Rampant sexualization definitely does psychic damage to me. That may not be a scientific finding, but just because it hasn't be scientifically proven to be traumatizing people doesn't mean we should throw our hands up and let devs and artists continue to be creepy perv weirdos and treat their female characters like garbage.

ALSO. 1. He mentions the studies aren't very good so it's irresponsible to even make a headline claim about this. Research wasn't even actually done. Pretty sus to bury that lead.

2. It's hard to take this seriously from someone's whose academic page looks like this.

Its not like you can address the value of research using the scientific method by examining the methodology used, and also DO YOU EVEN CSS, BRO?

Still, I dunno if I buy this, there are too many anecdotal experiences of women speaking on this that do not line up with these results and nothing about them seems to make them huge outliers.

Uh, the plural of anecdote is data, shitlords, I'm gonna side eye anyone who says different

This whole thing feels like someone just really wanted an excuse to sexualize women in games. if people are being made to feel uncomfortable, there isn't much upside to continue doing it when it's just as easy to not do it.

Look at this fucking tenured chair of psychology playing the long game of academia, so he can see some big anime tiddies. We see you, not slick, etc.

The guy, based on some op-eds written, appears to be a right-wing shithead, but eh. Just putting this out there. Grain of salt, etc etc.

Hes probably a trump supporter too based on some things I invented because he said something I dont want to hear.
Also, please ignore this.

my little brother became a sexual deviant because of the media his new girlfriend was showing him

Plus, when the article uses "moral panic" and "females" and then completely undermines itself by mentioning the studies aren't very good, I'm giving the side eye.

I don't think asking designers not to cater towards horndog teenager level harmonies level of embarrassing designs for women is really "moral panic".

no, but demanding people cater to your tastes under a false authority that not doing so is an objective harm sure fucking is

The guy, based on some op-eds written, appears to be a right-wing shithead, but eh. Just putting this out there. Grain of salt, etc etc.

Should probably lock the thread then tbh

Study is not even useful

Mods halp, I only respect science from people I align with politically that tell me what I want to hear, and this rando posters insinuation destroys his arguments with FACTS and LOGIC

has big [citation needed] energy

yeah, unlike this fucking thread


They're already throwing implicit shade at the OP just for making the fucking thread being an indicator he failed the purity test, so we're one hashtaggamergate reference away from the mod lock for 'volume of reports' as the hive mind struggle to dismiss new information

[Propagandhim]

my little brother became a sexual deviant because of the media his new girlfriend was showing him

[HardcoreRetro]

I read on twitter that that scientist killed like a gabundred trans people, so it must be true. Die TERF cunt.

[Averon]

I'm pretty sure they are all on Twitter right now hunting him down to see what "problematic" Tweets they can dig up to dismiss him and get the thread locked.

[Propagandhim]

I'm really interested to know what a "sexual deviant" is.  Because I grew up understanding that term to be homosexuals and transsexuals from dipshit religious extremists.  But I guess these guys got ahold of that term and reclaimed it like the N word?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

An example of how fucking stupid the "no thred whining" rule is, because:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-person-on-reddit-chronicle-of-the-racist-homophobic-creators-of-fan-film-spider-man-lotus.606003/

Is just some dude amplifying some fucking subreddit drama about a dude nobodys heard of (who seems to be 15  ) who made some fucking fan film nobodies heard of to like... what, stir up a bigger audience to cancel some fucking nobody?

What even is this topic? Whats the goal posting it? Just a headsup theres a lynch mob forming if anyone wants in? (RedMercury: "YOU HAVE MY SWORD!")

[Straight Edge]

psychic damage
We in Warhammer 40K now, Breh

[HardcoreRetro]

I'm really interested to know what a "sexual deviant" is.  Because I grew up understanding that term to be homosexuals and transsexuals from dipshit religious extremists.  But I guess these guys got ahold of that term and reclaimed it like the N word?

How does reclaiming in the case of the N-word even work? The word wasn't African to begin with.

[HaughtyFrank]

I'm really interested to know what a "sexual deviant" is.  Because I grew up understanding that term to be homosexuals and transsexuals from dipshit religious extremists.  But I guess these guys got ahold of that term and reclaimed it like the N word?

Yeah, for people who get triggered by the word "female" it's pretty funny to let that slide

[Averon]

I'm pretty sure they are all on Twitter right now hunting him down to see what "problematic" Tweets they can dig up to dismiss him and get the thread locked.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/page2#post-89782746

Browsing this guy's Twitter is going about as I expected.

https://twitter.com/CJFerguson1111

Like clock work. They're so predictable

[VomKriege]

You would think with the latest polls showing Democrats fired up to vote this election day we would have some hopium, but nope, the same old doomer comments saying that voting does nothing and only violent revoulution will prevent facism from taking over this country.

1. Voting
2. ? ? ?
3. Voting !

[paprikastaude]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/

Let's see how long this thread lasts

 

THIS THREAD IS A FUCKING GOLDMINE

I dunno. Rampant sexualization definitely does psychic damage to me. That may not be a scientific finding, but just because it hasn't be scientifically proven to be traumatizing people doesn't mean we should throw our hands up and let devs and artists continue to be creepy perv weirdos and treat their female characters like garbage.

(Image removed from quote.)

ALSO. 1. He mentions the studies aren't very good so it's irresponsible to even make a headline claim about this. Research wasn't even actually done. Pretty sus to bury that lead.

2. It's hard to take this seriously from someone's whose academic page looks like this.

Its not like you can address the value of research using the scientific method by examining the methodology used, and also DO YOU EVEN CSS, BRO?

Still, I dunno if I buy this, there are too many anecdotal experiences of women speaking on this that do not line up with these results and nothing about them seems to make them huge outliers.

Uh, the plural of anecdote is data, shitlords, I'm gonna side eye anyone who says different

This whole thing feels like someone just really wanted an excuse to sexualize women in games. if people are being made to feel uncomfortable, there isn't much upside to continue doing it when it's just as easy to not do it.

Look at this fucking tenured chair of psychology playing the long game of academia, so he can see some big anime tiddies. We see you, not slick, etc.

The guy, based on some op-eds written, appears to be a right-wing shithead, but eh. Just putting this out there. Grain of salt, etc etc.

Hes probably a trump supporter too based on some things I invented because he said something I dont want to hear.
Also, please ignore this.

my little brother became a sexual deviant because of the media his new girlfriend was showing him

Plus, when the article uses "moral panic" and "females" and then completely undermines itself by mentioning the studies aren't very good, I'm giving the side eye.

I don't think asking designers not to cater towards horndog teenager level harmonies level of embarrassing designs for women is really "moral panic".

no, but demanding people cater to your tastes under a false authority that not doing so is an objective harm sure fucking is

The guy, based on some op-eds written, appears to be a right-wing shithead, but eh. Just putting this out there. Grain of salt, etc etc.

Should probably lock the thread then tbh

Study is not even useful

Mods halp, I only respect science from people I align with politically that tell me what I want to hear, and this rando posters insinuation destroys his arguments with FACTS and LOGIC

has big [citation needed] energy

yeah, unlike this fucking thread


They're already throwing implicit shade at the OP just for making the fucking thread being an indicator he failed the purity test, so we're one hashtaggamergate reference away from the mod lock for 'volume of reports' as the hive mind struggle to dismiss new information

I always knew this science thing was alt right

[HaughtyFrank]

It's funny how many now argue that you can't really measure the impact the games have because sexism is just too nebulous. I guess they don't realize that this also invalidates any assumption that games cause sexism cause apparently it's something we simply can't measure

[Propagandhim]

I'm really interested to know what a "sexual deviant" is.  Because I grew up understanding that term to be homosexuals and transsexuals from dipshit religious extremists.  But I guess these guys got ahold of that term and reclaimed it like the N word?

How does reclaiming in the case of the N-word even work? The word wasn't African to begin with.

A lot of words seemed to be "reclaimed" these days.  IE:  "Fascism" now doesn't mean an authoritative nationalist gov't with no checks on power.  It's now, "right wing" even in a democratically elected body.  "Sexual deviant" can mean literally anything, but I'm just interested in hearing what exactly it is.  Like I said, it used to mean homosexuality or transsexuality, but they obviously don't mean it in that way.  It can't mean s&m because that would be kink-shaming.  So what does it mean now?!