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[PogiJones]

"The black assault victim was no angel." - ResetEra.com

 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-resigns-from-the-academy.568708/page-7#post-84578083

My opinion on violence as a resolution remains that Richard Spencer was decked super hard on-camera and hasn't had a good day since.

[ShutUp]

Ah so now comparisons of a black guy and a neo-Nazi will be made. Them Nazi’s are sure known for liking black people.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/zoomers-just-shot-themselves-in-the-foot.568777/#post-84578269

Ok so I'm back home with my parents and sleeping in the same room as my Zoomer sister since she has two beds.

It's 11PM and I'm just casually watching some adult entertainment. My Zoomer sister looks to be asleep and she can't see my iPad anyway. I thought my headphones were plugged in... but they weren't.

I realized this when I can hear the echo of a ladies voice in the room. I lift up one earcup and lo and behold, I got porn noises playing full-blast throughout my Zoomer sisters room.

I feel like I'm paralysed and can't move. Is she awake? Did the noise wake her up? How much did she here. So many questions and my heart is beating like a drum.

Oh lord Jesus almighty what do I do

[cosmicblizzard]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-resigns-from-the-academy.568708/page-7#post-84577171

Talk shit, get hit.



If you wanna know who has power in a room, it's who can make your life worse without throwing a punch.

This is weirdly similar to "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize", a quote referencing Jews by Neo-nazi, Kevin Alfred Strom. 

[nobody of note]

So someone asks in constructive for clarification on the Slap Discussion Ban since the latest thread seems to be basically slap discussion.

Let's see if I can navigate a follow-up on this delicately, without blemishing my ban-free record...  because I'm genuinely confused.

At first, I though this topic was basically locked down - in a similar fashion to the Hogwarts Legacy stuff, or NFTs.  I didn't have much issue with that, provided it was a ban on all discussion, or at least with clear guidelines.

I'm not a fan on banning discourse in general, but it's the internet, it needs moderation, and I'm grateful Era has it because it feels like a safe place.  Members can accept those guidelines or leave the community, in my view; it's a forum and subject to its own rules.

However, I'm no longer sure where we stand in terms of consistency on 'the slap' topic.

Here's the lock post from the 'Oscars launch review' thread.   From here on out, I'm going to quote the whole posts for context, and so I can be challenged on any other parts I'm overlooking.  Relevant parts for my question will be highlighted in orange:

Staff have decided that this thread will remain locked, and any others regarding the situation will be locked upon sight. If there is a significant update, such as responses from Chris Rock or Jada Smith, staff will handle those threads.

We originally wanted to try again because this has become a flashpoint issue in the news cycle for now, and we're aware that members are frustrated with thread closures. However, the staggering amount of posts that engaged in mindless pedantry, exaggerated pearl-clutching, and outright dogwhistling were to a degree that staff collectively decided there is no point in giving this a third go. Ultimately it is clear that there has been a general failure to engage in this subject and critique Will's behavior without, inadvertently or otherwise, completely brushing off the entirety of his life and dipping into stereotyping and levels of outrage that paint Black men as uniquely dangerous, and this issue as an indictment of Black people as a whole. The only thing we can ask of you, going forward, is that the next time a beloved Black celebrity does something that is wrong, better sensitivity and acknowledgement towards the reality of being Black in America is utilized going forward.

We will continue to review posts and reports.

Here's the staff post on the 'Chris Rock Jada Smith history vid' thread:

While Will Smith's slapping of Chris Rock is the inciting incident for this video, this video and this thread is specifically about the history between Chris Rock and Jada Pinkett Smith, specifically Chris Rock's consistent animosity towards her. Keep the thread on topic; any posts litigating the incident at the Oscars will be subject to a month-long ban

So what's with the lack of a similar staff post, thread ban, keeping-on-topic or other communication on the 'Will resigns from Academy' thread?

I don't want to quote individual members because I don't want to stoke any unnecessary flames.  But it's full of people, showing their views on both sides, with staff even joining in on this debate.

Are other threads on this subject allowed, or not?  If so, are members allowed to litigate the incident, or not?

If all discussion is banned, then please ban it, and explain why.  If discussion is allowed, provided you hold a certain perspective, then please be fair and tell members what the guidelines are.

I appreciate Era's approach to moderation and I'm often thankful the task doesn't fall to me.  Everyone is human and needs to sleep now and then; putting hard and fast rules in place is also tricky.

But this inconsistency feels troublesome, and I can see more people catching bans because they genuinely don't know what the rules are on this subject.  Some clarification would be helpful, I think.

Nepenthe responds with whatever the fuck this is, which has actually left me more confused by what was banned then before:

Notice in my first staff post that I said that if there are any significant updates to the situation, as in responses from other parties, then it'd be fine (I did say we'd handle such updates, but for God's sake, I'm tired and have other things in my life to do). Will Smith resigning from the Academy over the incident is a pretty big update; that's the reason why that particular thread is still open, and why in general there has been a dearth of moderation thus far. I've not had a lot of time still to go through what reports have been made in that thread, but it hasn't been an outright fire of hundreds of reports like the two threads in question were. If it needs a staff post, then we'll make the determination and get to crafting one. But it's clear at this point that in light of the consistent complaints about locked threads, people feeling we don't allow them to discuss hot issues and how this issue just won't fucking go away from the news cycle, we're doing the best we can with the resources we have. Again note: Posts on which side you fall on, whether you are on Smith's side or Rock's side, have not been banned wholesale and never were. What has been banned has been the concern trolling, racial dogwhistling, fragile, accusatory pearl-clutching, and other inflammatory nonsense that have made this incident into more of a headache than it ever should've been in the first place. That's why those threads were locked.

My favorite part is "Well ok sure we did say staff would open future threads but I AM SO BUSY AND TIRED so fuck it yolo"

The latest thread is also continuing what may actually be one of the grossest aspects of their handling of this--people so fixated on defending Will, the man, that they've basically turned Jada into a damsel in distress so they can project all of their justifications onto her. And anyone who at any point questions if she sees herself as a long-term victim of horrible bullying is just shouted down because the smart people at Era know she had to be, and that's why the big important man had to do the thing he did. She kept her shit together and is still being used to justify Will's response and that's fucked up.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Again note: Posts on which side you fall on, whether you are on Smith's side or Rock's side, have not been banned wholesale and never were. What has been banned has been the concern trolling, racial dogwhistling, fragile, accusatory pearl-clutching, and other inflammatory nonsense that have made this incident into more of a headache than it ever should've been in the first place. That's why those threads were locked.

Expect they were banned for siding Smith or Rock

[Uncle]

Posts on which side you fall on, whether you are on Smith's side or Rock's side, have not been banned wholesale and never were. What has been banned has been the concern trolling, racial dogwhistling, fragile, accusatory pearl-clutching, and other inflammatory nonsense that have made this incident into more of a headache than it ever should've been in the first place.

however: it just so happens that all posts critical of Will have been expertly categorized by a solo team of moderator(s) as racial dogwhistling, fragile, et al

"being on Rock's side" isn't banned, it's "being inflammatory" that's banned, and it's impossible to be on Rock's side without being inflammatory

[Mostima]

How has nobody on ree brought up how stupid it is to have both "dismissing concerns" and "fragility" as ban reasons yet? Even more absurd is how they can elevate it to a permaban for either being a junior account or having a "history" of anything.

[Pissy F Benny]

I wonder how the Swedish overlords feel about the crazy mods shedding more of the user base over this nonsense

[Transhuman]

They're neutral about it

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-resigns-from-the-academy.568708/page-10#post-84581896

looks at all the reports, sighs, dies a little inside

There is a complete difference between someone
-deserving to get hit
and
- someone losing their shit to the point they hit someone

And to that point, there is a difference between "shit, that was bad, but people are...people," and" holy shit I wish Will Smith had fucking killed Chris Rock because that would be totally masculine"

I'm irritated, because I keep getting pinged for these fucking threads, and all I want is for people to act like adults. So, if you all need some direction, let's go.

What Chris Rock said was insensitive and shitty. It punched down, and it wasn't really a joke so much as a comment at the expense of someone with a condition. I ain't making bald jokes towards people that can't help it.

What Will Smith did was an overreaction and fucking stupid. I get that people lose their cool. We are all human - we all do stupid shit from time to time. I've seen your posts, so don't act like you're immune from the human condition. All that said, it was the wrong response. To paraphrase what Chris Rock has said in his standup, "I don't agree, but I understand."

So that's basically it. There's enough bullshit around that is trying to focus the blame of a fucking "joke" on Jada, or making this into some racial thing because the participants are Black, or what the fuck ever. Stop. All. Of. That. Shit.

No more victim blaming. You wanna blame Chris? Fine. You wanna blame Will? Fine. You want to do something productive and comment on literally anything else? Fine.

But the bullshit stops here. Y'all are better than this. And if you aren't, then you do not belong here.

Nep was the go-to mod controlling the discussion and narrative surrounding this topic. Blame her for letting it get out of hand and letting her biases shape the discussion, which, unsurprisingly, devolved into the mess that you're complaining about, Hecht. Maybe take the hint that Nep is a horrible person that shouldn't have the power to shape the community's discussion through bans and thread locks.

[Averon]

Also, if they had any sense, they'd get get rid of the report button. Pretty obvious at this point it is being used for the pettiest of reasons if you're constantly getting "floods of reports." I bet 99% of the time nothing really banworthy is being reported, just little worms like ZeoVGM, incelsiorlef, and Messeo hammering it to whine to get people banned for petty reasons.

[HaughtyFrank]

So that's basically it. There's enough bullshit around that is trying to focus the blame of a fucking "joke" on Jada, or making this into some racial thing because the participants are Black, or what the fuck ever. Stop. All. Of. That. Shit.

Maybe have a look at your own mod team then

[Transhuman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-resigns-from-the-academy.568708/page-10#post-84581896

looks at all the reports, sighs, dies a little inside

There is a complete difference between someone
-deserving to get hit
and
- someone losing their shit to the point they hit someone

And to that point, there is a difference between "shit, that was bad, but people are...people," and" holy shit I wish Will Smith had fucking killed Chris Rock because that would be totally masculine"

I'm irritated, because I keep getting pinged for these fucking threads, and all I want is for people to act like adults. So, if you all need some direction, let's go.

What Chris Rock said was insensitive and shitty. It punched down, and it wasn't really a joke so much as a comment at the expense of someone with a condition. I ain't making bald jokes towards people that can't help it.

What Will Smith did was an overreaction and fucking stupid. I get that people lose their cool. We are all human - we all do stupid shit from time to time. I've seen your posts, so don't act like you're immune from the human condition. All that said, it was the wrong response. To paraphrase what Chris Rock has said in his standup, "I don't agree, but I understand."

So that's basically it. There's enough bullshit around that is trying to focus the blame of a fucking "joke" on Jada, or making this into some racial thing because the participants are Black, or what the fuck ever. Stop. All. Of. That. Shit.

No more victim blaming. You wanna blame Chris? Fine. You wanna blame Will? Fine. You want to do something productive and comment on literally anything else? Fine.

But the bullshit stops here. Y'all are better than this. And if you aren't, then you do not belong here.

Nep was the go-to mod controlling the discussion and narrative surrounding this topic. Blame her for letting it get out of hand and letting her biases shape the discussion, which, unsurprisingly, devolved into the mess that you're complaining about, Hecht. Maybe take the hint that Nep is a horrible person that shouldn't have the power to shape the community's discussion through bans and thread locks.

Can someone with an account please ask Hecht in that thread why this post is 'dogwhistling'?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/oscars-launch-formal-review-of-will-smith-after-chris-rock-slap-read-staff-post-update-smith-apologizes.567099/page-34#post-84385363

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dogwhistling
Will Smith made a huge fool out of himself. I can’t believe some of the posts I’m reading in this thread.

Hecht himself literally just said it wasn't a "racial thing" and that Will Smith was "fucking stupid"?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

What's hilarious is that Rock wasn't even being mean about the GI Jane joke.

It was like a compliment, cause Jada looks like a bad ass bitch and so did Demi Moore.

To paraphrase what Chris Rock has said in his standup, "I don't agree, but I understand."

Like, duh and like stop having shitty mods who don't get it.

[Propagandhim]

Hecht with that amazingly patronizing wall of text.  Imagine being condescended to after that horrible, nonsensical moderation.   

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-resigns-from-the-academy.568708/page-7#post-84576604

It's very, very shocking to me that many white "allies" are on the side of the shitty, sexist comic who has been on the record of letting white people use the n-word. Like, totally shocked.

I really don't get this sentiment. The shock is from it being Will Smith. Who is one of the, if not the most, cleanest celebs there is. His music was. His sitcom was. His movies generally are. He is beloved by all audiences young, old, white, black, and everyone in between. My mom knows and loves Will Smith from the Fresh Prince and she barely speaks English.

No one is siding with Chris over Will cause he apparently gave a pass to white ppl to use the n word. It's because the saw Will Smith hit a presenter over a joke. That's not why Will went up, to hit Chris over his sexist jokes or because of his use of N words.

No one is siding with Chris over Will cause he apparently gave a pass to white ppl to use the n word. It's because the saw Will Smith hit a presenter over a joke. That's not why Will went up, to hit Chris over his sexist jokes or because of his use of N words.

No, but it's pretty telling looking at the faces of those on Chris' side vs those who aren't.

There are also many prominent black voices on Chris's side. And there are many white ppl who either don't care, see both sides of it, and or support Will or Jada.

He wasn't arrested.
He still won.
He got a standing ovation.

His apology and getting ahead of this was the right move.

Trying to make this into a "all white ppl are supporting Chris and the black community isn't" is a reach imo

Trying to make this into a "all white ppl are supporting Chris and the black community isn't" is a reach imo.

Where did I say that?

The comment I replied where you said look at the faces of those on Chris's side vs those who aren't.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-resigns-from-the-academy.568708/page-7#post-84577069

And? Did I... assign colors on that statement? Did I even say "all on Chris' side" or "all not on his side"? Where did you get this "all" blanket from? You being so defensive and bothered by this is pretty weird.

I said "MANY". Trying to make this some "not all white people" or "not all black people" thing is quite telling of you.

 

This is breathtaking. This is a friend taking a shit on your carpet, you pull them aside demanding why they took a shit on your carpet, and them saying, "I LEFT a shit on your carpet! How dare you say I took one? Shows what kind of friend you really are!"

[Snoopycat_]

 

It would be a lot less entertaining if Nep Nep didn't have the power to take her pent up vindictive rage out on the rees. We lost Morrigan. Royalan tries but he just isn't going to cut it. The rest of them are voids.

[Rman]

The dumbest era thing to happen in a while and that is saying something. Hecht is an idiot for comparing a joke to assault and all those other psychotic posters in that thread are too.

[joeboy101]

Hecht with that amazingly patronizing wall of text.  Imagine being condescended to after that horrible, nonsensical moderation.   

Again, another example how can someone be so willfully blind to what the moderation team is saying and doing. Just blaming it all on the users because they can't 'control' themselves.

You know whom else makes these arguments all.the.time, Hecht? Cops.

[SmokyDave]

joeboy, man, we might know each other in real life 

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[Cauliflower Of Love]

Hecht with that amazingly patronizing wall of text.  Imagine being condescended to after that horrible, nonsensical moderation.   

Again, another example how can someone be so willfully blind to what the moderation team is saying and doing. Just blaming it all on the users because they can't 'control' themselves.

You know whom else makes these arguments all.the.time, Hecht? Cops.

will smith also can't control himself

 

[Potato]

Will needs to sit down and take more Ayahuasca. He has a lot to learn.

If he's resigning from the academy then he should return the Oscar.

User Banned (Permanent): Disingenuous trolling and armchair diagnosis, dogwhistling, a history of anti-Black racism and peddling psychedelic drugs

What dog whistling? Will Smith himself literally said that he needs to work on himself

OMG, I actually thought you made the ban message up. Was laughing, because it was a pretty good joke. Then I clicked through to check...

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[Potato]

I cant believe the mods are still platforming racists like Will Smith after what he said about Will Smith.

That is the irony though, isn't it! If Will Smith posted on Reeeeesetera, what Will Smith posted in public, he would have been banned.

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[Potato]

Just a note to the multitude of guests perusing the forum right now, Resetera moderators and admins managed to make an incident involving two black men and a black woman into a thread about racism.

If you're a member over there, maybe question why you don't take an active stand against this type of lunacy. If your reason for not taking a stand is that you will likely get banned, then maybe question the wisdom of remaining a member of such a place.

[Boredfrom]

Just a note to the multitude of guests perusing the forum right now, Resetera moderators and admins managed to make an incident involving two black men and a black woman into a thread about racism.

If you're a member over there, maybe question why you don't take an active stand against this type of lunacy. If your reason for not taking a stand is that you will likely get banned, then maybe question the wisdom of remaining a member of such a place.

Eh, is not like you can actually take an active stand given how the mods and their sycophants act. Most people banned were called racist and assholes while being ostracized. But if you are in the protected list, you can get away with almost everything, including shitting on other members. Take for example: Professor Beef is an asshole that actively mocked the suicide of a mentally ill black man but no one is allowed to mention it, and even then there is no guarantee that mods will just not edit the post or delete the accusation.

This has been the case since Gaf, look how initially buried the Amirox arrest under the bus.

The only way to get real talk about RE is outside that forum, and RE is conditioning their community to hate the rest of the Internet outside RE and Twitter.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Just a note to the multitude of guests perusing the forum right now, Resetera moderators and admins managed to make an incident involving two black men and a black woman into a thread about racism.

If you're a member over there, maybe question why you don't take an active stand against this type of lunacy. If your reason for not taking a stand is that you will likely get banned, then maybe question the wisdom of remaining a member of such a place.

also pm potatoe for the vip list for this forum

[Potato]

Just a note to the multitude of guests perusing the forum right now, Resetera moderators and admins managed to make an incident involving two black men and a black woman into a thread about racism.

If you're a member over there, maybe question why you don't take an active stand against this type of lunacy. If your reason for not taking a stand is that you will likely get banned, then maybe question the wisdom of remaining a member of such a place.

also pm potatoe for the vip list for this forum

VIP section is just pics of filler's massive hog

[Transhuman]

If you're a member over there, maybe question why you don't take an active stand against this type of lunacy. If your reason for not taking a stand is that you will likely get banned, then maybe question the wisdom of remaining a member of such a place.

I'm sure John Dunbar misses posting in the non-psychotic portions of the site, but I guess everyone has their breaking point eventually. Or maybe he's just better at tuning out crazy people than you or I. I don't think less of the people on resetera who think the staff are idiots but they don't feel enough umbrage to say so.

[John Dunbar]

If you're a member over there, maybe question why you don't take an active stand against this type of lunacy. If your reason for not taking a stand is that you will likely get banned, then maybe question the wisdom of remaining a member of such a place.

I'm sure John Dunbar misses posting in the non-psychotic portions of the site, but I guess everyone has their breaking point eventually. Or maybe he's just better at tuning out crazy people than you or I. I don't think less of the people on resetera who think the staff are idiots but they don't feel enough umbrage to say so.

can't miss something i'm still doing. 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

edit: wrong account

[Transhuman]

If you're a member over there, maybe question why you don't take an active stand against this type of lunacy. If your reason for not taking a stand is that you will likely get banned, then maybe question the wisdom of remaining a member of such a place.

I'm sure John Dunbar misses posting in the non-psychotic portions of the site, but I guess everyone has their breaking point eventually. Or maybe he's just better at tuning out crazy people than you or I. I don't think less of the people on resetera who think the staff are idiots but they don't feel enough umbrage to say so.

can't miss something i'm still doing. 

[PogiJones]

Crap, this Will Smith thing has been way too entertaining, and I've ended up posting way too much, losing any moblin-esque mystique I had acquired. Gotta pursue that mystique again. Glad you peeps are all seemingly doing well.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Crap, this Will Smith thing has been way too entertaining, and I've ended up posting way too much, losing any moblin-esque mystique I had acquired. Gotta pursue that mystique again. Glad you peeps are all seemingly doing well.

Let us be honest, we were all waiting for squeaky clean Smith to break at some point.  You don't keep a bad ass bitch who handled tupac and be a nice guy.

[PogiJones]

Oh, one last thing. You guys are sleeping on this being an actual thing a CNN journalist authored about Jada and published on CNN.com

"This guy is a mean-spirited jerk and I'm going to tell the world that. You're beautiful, tonight and always."

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-resigns-from-the-academy.568708/page-11#post-84585949

If someone insults you or your family in public, you can demand an apology, or insult them back.  What you can't do is go up to their face and smack them without facing consequences.  I dont understand how people are not getting this.

Insulting a guy whose job it is to be really funny and insulting sounds like a good way to tackle him in his own area of expertise.

Violence is how you get those with power to relinquish it. I also do not understand how you are not getting this.

Can we not draw parallels between a black comedian and a white supremacist at every opportunity?

Nah, he's just my ur-example for all this pearl clutching "violence is never the answer abloobloobloo" shit. Being able to hold power over someone, over a disorder affecting their physical appearance at that, that's violence. That is a powerful violence gleefully inflicted at every opportunity, and we've been trained by those in power not to view it as such because otherwise we'd recognize our only recourse in striking back.

Though for what it's worth, I can appreciate the objection to mentioning him here, if only because I'm not doing enough work when writing to contextualize what I'm trying to convey (violence is a valuable resource against those who hold power against you) and what you're taking away (an explicit comparison between the two).

This is a person that seriously writes essays analyzing the stories of modern Sonic games btw. Not enough emotes in the world for this lunacy 

[Transhuman]

Insulting a guy whose job it is to be really funny and insulting sounds like a good way to tackle him in his own area of expertise.

https://www.youtubetrimmer.com/view/?v=uV3MQtpYikM&start=66&end=247&loop=0

[Pissy F Benny]

Rees bitching about pearl clutching when that's 98% of the forums content

[Shuri]

RE: The Smith's relationship with scientology.

Leah Remini said Jada was a long, long term member of the church.She would see her at their celebrity center all the time. The "totally not a scientology school" school they opened was staffed with members of the church too.

it's super weird to see people on resetera downplay this.

[benjipwns]

I'm struggling to get over my CPTSD from incel terrorist Chris Rock being a free man by thinking about how inspiring to millions or even billions it would be to see Ketanji Brown Jackson upon being sworn in as a Supreme Court Justice cross her arms and shout WAKANDA FOREVER. Seriously how awesome would that be? I'm starting to get hyped about it, especially the possibility she does it just to put all the yt chuds in their place. It would be the most epic thing in history, I really can't wait. LIKE AND RT IF YOU AGREE! #Disney #MCU #SCOTUS #MakeAWishFoundation #ShareBlue #RESIST #ThePersistence #StillWithHer

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-resigns-from-the-academy.568708/page-11#post-84586549
Weiss:

Normalizing slurs against marginalized communities is fine and it's not violence because "I didn't say gay to mean gay people I meant gay as in lame."

Cat calling isn't violence because all that's happening is an endless sea of the same guy spouting about how much he'd like to fuck you. It's just words.

Your boss going "damn gurl you want some FRIES with that SHAKE???" isn't violence because he'll get it right on his fourth apology, but if he keeps it up we're super gonna make him do some time with HR for sure.

"Autistic Screeching" isn't violence because I'm just saying that people with ASD are subhuman freaks and it's funny to watch them make noise, I don't mean it.

Having a status quo that allows expressions of anger relating to the above to be punished more thoroughly than them happening in the first place isn't violence, not at all. I get that you're upset but punching me for my abuse of the power I have over you is just improper manners.

Also Weiss:

Bro all I did was mock your wife's disability it's just a prank

[Straight Edge]

There are several dimensions to this whole ordeal and I haven't been willing to comment on it. I'm still a little reluctant to do so because I'm afraid of saying the wrong thing.

 

[Propagandhim]

Your boss going "damn gurl you want some FRIES with that SHAKE???" isn't violence because he'll get it right on his fourth apology, but if he keeps it up we're super gonna make him do some time with HR for sure.

Damn that's such a specific example. 

[HaughtyFrank]

Bro all I did was mock your wife's disability it's just a prank

Okay, these words are literally violence on anyone with a functioning brain. People with glasses are more "disabled" than someone who is bald.

[Propagandhim]

Maybe this is the virulent racist in me, but maybe hair shouldn't be a big part of your identity and culture if being bald, a common condition, completely deracinates you and engenders ego-death to the point that you consider it a disability?  I get that having hair is, generally, preferable to not having hair - but....come on.

[joeboy101]

Nah, he's just my ur-example for all this pearl clutching "violence is never the answer abloobloobloo" shit.

Mocks others by making their words seem senseless.

Being able to hold power over someone, over a disorder affecting their physical appearance at that, that's violence.

And then types this in the next sentence.

 

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[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/guy-sits-outside-an-elementary-school-in-his-car-watching-with-his-binoculars-what-would-you-do.568615/

(I called the cops. Almost didn't but then figured he was white so probably would not be so dangerous for him if they confronted him).

I guess that will be good to know for the 500+ white people killed by police per year, the most of any ethnicity.

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[Propagandhim]

How do they want the law to deal with this fantasy about words are violence?  What legislature is going to be like,

"Okay, we'll codify this.  If your feelings are hurt, you get to assault them with no consequence."

 Wait no, that's bad for us if we hurt someone else's feelings.  I don't want to get punched.  You gotta make it so when someone says something really bad about marginalized communities, then it's warranted.

"What could someone say that's so bad about marginalized communities?"

Anything. 

"Okay.  But bald people?  Like, making fun of George Castanza?"

Black, female, bald people.  Put that in the books.

[benjipwns]

Richard Spencer is a terrible "ur-example" of violence being an answer to bad speech since him getting punched didn't make him go away, he's doing the same kinds of things he's always done and he's probably more famous now than he ever was. He's not even banned off Twitter.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-resigns-from-the-academy.568708/page-11#post-84587905

the ways anti blackness manifests on this site is so wild

[Propagandhim]

 

Sure they are but they never need a slap to escalate. They'll do that all on their own if they want to. More often than not, the police cause the violent altercation rather than stop it.

I'm not downplaying anything. People make mistakes. People get angry, do stupid things, then regret it later. Just because other people didn't do something stupid over worse discrimination doesn't mean that there is inherently a bigger issue at play. He could be dealing with a lot of things in his life and this was too much. It doesn't have to be some sort of mental illness or wider angry management issue. It can literally be a one and done.

Hitting people for saying certain things that offend us is normal. It's okay to say it shouldn't be normal, but it is. Good or bad, it's fairly normal. What also shouldn't be normal is people saying, "It's just words" or "it's just a joke". Words are powerful and people need to stop downplaying it like words can't be violence.

Nothing of this is to say what I think he did was good or anything. I just don't think we need to armchair diagnose something when we know nothing.

I'm sorry, what?

[benjipwns]

I like how being upset that a Black man was attacked with violence (by someone with greater power) for his harmless speech has somehow become "the anti-Black position" on ResetERA.com. And they've successfully cowed anyone from pointing out any of the many issues with this.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Sure they are but they never need a slap to escalate. They'll do that all on their own if they want to. More often than not, the police cause the violent altercation rather than stop it.

I'm not downplaying anything. People make mistakes. People get angry, do stupid things, then regret it later. Just because other people didn't do something stupid over worse discrimination doesn't mean that there is inherently a bigger issue at play. He could be dealing with a lot of things in his life and this was too much. It doesn't have to be some sort of mental illness or wider angry management issue. It can literally be a one and done.

Hitting people for saying certain things that offend us is normal. It's okay to say it shouldn't be normal, but it is. Good or bad, it's fairly normal. What also shouldn't be normal is people saying, "It's just words" or "it's just a joke". Words are powerful and people need to stop downplaying it like words can't be violence.

Nothing of this is to say what I think he did was good or anything. I just don't think we need to armchair diagnose something when we know nothing.

I'm sorry, what?

tbf it's punch nazis in the face territory

and since chris rock is a know KKK member and white supremicist.

[benjipwns]

"Returning to norms that Black people should fear the threat of violence when they speak is not progressive and would most predominantly threaten marginalized voices."
"Silence, cracker."

[Rman]

Sure they are but they never need a slap to escalate. They'll do that all on their own if they want to. More often than not, the police cause the violent altercation rather than stop it.

I'm not downplaying anything. People make mistakes. People get angry, do stupid things, then regret it later. Just because other people didn't do something stupid over worse discrimination doesn't mean that there is inherently a bigger issue at play. He could be dealing with a lot of things in his life and this was too much. It doesn't have to be some sort of mental illness or wider angry management issue. It can literally be a one and done.

Hitting people for saying certain things that offend us is normal. It's okay to say it shouldn't be normal, but it is. Good or bad, it's fairly normal. What also shouldn't be normal is people saying, "It's just words" or "it's just a joke". Words are powerful and people need to stop downplaying it like words can't be violence.

Nothing of this is to say what I think he did was good or anything. I just don't think we need to armchair diagnose something when we know nothing.

I'm sorry, what?

tbf it's punch nazis in the face territory

and since chris rock is a know KKK member and white supremicist.

It's not normal to assault a comedian roasting celebrities, something that happens every year, in an internationally televised event. ERA is fucking insane and don't get context at all. It's like they're broken in this issue. 

the fucking LAPD was involved.  And yeah, cops sucks, we know, but they just don't get how outta line this situation was.  There is no excuse here.

will smith almost got an assault charge if chris rock wasn't so charitable. like i can't believe how wild and idiotic these muthafuckas are.

also, watch chris rock become the new joe rogan in that terrible forum as well.

[BIONIC]

KKKris RoKKK imo

[Cauliflower Of Love]

someone make a punch drunk love thread