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[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/terf-jk-rowling-continues-to-be-a-hateful-bigot.221245/page-46#post-85056163
Astro doesn't read articles

https://mobile.twitter.com/HPANA/status/1513902822986858501
A little good news.

Article

As for what’s next? There’s speculation about whether or not “Fantastic Beasts” will complete its ambitions as a five-film franchise. At the moment, there’s no screenplay for a fourth installment, sources have confirmed. Executives at Warner Bros. are waiting to see how “The Secrets of Dumbledore” is received before giving films four and five the greenlight.

I heard the franchise was already in a bad state before Joanne becomed the Queen of TERFS.

[tiesto]

I just watched a review of NES Snake's Revenge today that was posted not long ago and the reviewer was like "by the way I'm using maps from gamefaqs to get through this...wait, these maps were posted a month ago?!  who the hell is playing Snake's Revenge in 2022??"

it's ya boi starfighters76

Heh, I actually beat the original NES Metal Gear a few months ago, and was considering Snake's Revenge as a follow-up (even though I know it's not technically "canon").

[Uncle]

I just watched a review of NES Snake's Revenge today that was posted not long ago and the reviewer was like "by the way I'm using maps from gamefaqs to get through this...wait, these maps were posted a month ago?!  who the hell is playing Snake's Revenge in 2022??"

it's ya boi starfighters76

Heh, I actually beat the original NES Metal Gear a few months ago, and was considering Snake's Revenge as a follow-up (even though I know it's not technically "canon").

the first time I tried it out I was like wtf is this shit because it has an action packed intro where you're running around a dark jungle shooting everyone you see, but I've learned that it mellows out and becomes a full on metal gear game, to the point that kojima said it was faithful to his original

cool features like truth gas which you use on enemy commanders (who then lie to you anyway), setpieces like a cable car where you have to avoid being seen by people riding in it below

[Uncle]

Where’s my puff piece about how I’m 40, transitioned late, but wish I had decades ago cause it’s awesome and now I am living a happier life fawning over my cat and watching comic book movies.

 

No offense, but wtf those activities have to do with transitioning.

men are not allowed to fawn over cats

if you use baby talk on mr. fluffkins and scritch his widdle cheeks, your egg has just not been cracked yet 💯

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one could argue their rhetoric is pretty binary-reinforcing 

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[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/incident-on-nyc-subway-brooklyn-shooting-or-explosion.572215/page-5#post-85075078

I wonder if this really helps or if this just causes people to spot him all over the country.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/have-you-ever-been-embarrassed-this-hard-in-a-fps.572446/#post-85067926

When will OP reveal the big twist that this kid is alt-right and that dance he keeps doing there is a series of alternated sieg heils

[Uncle]

the internet is not a big truck, it's a series of alternated sieg heils

[Potato]

Are you really trying to paint the media as being bigger victims than trans people?

 

Why take offence when you're not the focus of the criticism, and don't tell me you can't work out what was being spoken to.

I’m sure there’s stress working in media but it’s undeniable that media at large has been pushing an anti-trans agenda.


You can stop working in media if it becomes too much for you, trans folks don’t have the luxury or privilege to ignore threats to their well-being. A huge reason for the threats to their well-being is media itself. Trans folks are the victims here, let’s keep the conversation centered on them, not the media.

 

I really, really want you to answer this post, Effnine.


At a time when we're under relentless attack by powerful conservative forces who (and I have to emphasize this) do not want us to exist, you choose to instead defend the conservative media who prop them up and treat their bigotry and hatred as a legitimate position. Many other posters have quoted the VAST majority of therapists who disagree with Anderson's methods, yet even though very few follow her, the media chooses to spotlight traitorous worms like her and her ilk. Do you wonder why that is?


The fact is that now, more than ever, we need cis people to have our backs. There aren't enough of us to do it on our own. If we can't rely on support from even the "progressives" what fucking hope do we have? I know very well the vast majority will turn their faces away and pretend they don't notice because they aren't in the crosshairs, but some of you have to speak out.

Why does nobody from the media or any other industry openly post on Reeeeesetera again?

[Uncle]

The age you realize that you’re trans is the same number of years that you’ve waited to start, no more waiting is needed

ok but replace this with anything

the age you realize your true calling is to sell all your possessions, abandon your family and become a buddhist monk is the same number of years that you've waited to start, no more waiting is needed

there is 0% chance you might just need some therapy to dissuade you from rushing into major life decisions

[Potato]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

[Boredfrom]

I’m sure there’s stress working in media but it’s undeniable that media at large has been pushing an anti-trans agenda.


You can stop working in media if it becomes too much for you, trans folks don’t have the luxury or privilege to ignore threats to their well-being. A huge reason for the threats to their well-being is media itself. Trans folks are the victims here, let’s keep the conversation centered on them, not the media.

Holy shit. 

[Potato]

   This is your brain.


   This is your meeble meeble on Resetera.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

What does he actually do for a living? I always just assumed he was sustained by that segment of the Sonic fanbase that's really fucking weird.

So the entire sonic fanbase?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/penders-is-really-gonna-gonna-try-sue-paramount-for-stealing-his-characters-isnt-he-sonic-movie-news.571288/#post-84915694

Oh, goddamn furries...

User Banned (3 Days): Inflammatory Community Generalization; Please don't Ascribe Problematic Behaviour of a Few to an Entire Group

Unless they are yts.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/please-square-enix-and-disney-if-the-character-teased-at-the-end-of-the-kh4-trailer-is-who-we-think-consider-recasting-him.571726/page-2#post-84982483

User Banned (1 Week): Inflammatory Generalizations

Like most Japanese developers I doubt they care about James Woods. They all praise and love a literal fascist like Sugiyama.

So making fun of furries is almost as bad as being racist against Japanese.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joseph-anderson-elden-ring-a-shattered-masterpiece-spoilers.570502/page-9#post-84852229

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

https://www.resetera.com/threads/clara-wont-stop-cant-stop-2-cod-vanguard-player-in-the-world-gets-caught-cheating-in-60fps-rtx-on.571984/#post-85008994

User Banned (1 Month): Long history of platform warring

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-kingdom-hearts-series-has-officially-been-on-pc-for-over-a-year-and-is-still-exclusive-to-epic.571870/page-7#post-85020199

User banned (1 week): Trolling over a series of posts

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/please-square-enix-and-disney-if-the-character-teased-at-the-end-of-the-kh4-trailer-is-who-we-think-consider-recasting-him.571726/page-3#post-84992617

The amount of "But he's a great voice actor" posts in here... Jesus christ.

Why are you against actors? Do you think they're disposable?

Awww, there's the Era I know, jumping to conclusions and jumping down someone's throat that just hasn't thought through every possible implication of something, when the thing in the front of people's minds in the topic is why a shitheel MAGA will likely continue to get paid by Disney and SE.

To answer your question, do I think "actors" are disposable? No. Do I think some actors are disposable? Yes. James Woods is one of them just like Gina Carano.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gilbert-gottfried-has-passed-away.572380/page-6

Will wait until excel clocks in to work for this thread to be shut down.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

there is 0% chance you might just need some therapy to dissuade you from rushing into major life decisions

Especially one with a more than 80% occurrence of suicidal ideation and more than 40% actual suicide attempts, but why the fuck would a psychologist get involved?

The joke is I actually transistioned before she did and yet she's the supposed elder that we need to listen to

Yes, as the clearly mentally well balanced and demonstrably happy individual that you are, why wouldn't you be more of an expert than a trained clinical psychologist who still felt the need for extensive counselling before making a major life changing decision as a well informed adult?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

This is the real shame, that the ultra-obnoxious "dreadfully online" activists with their extremely aggressive, no compromise, with-us-or-against-us stance in places that ultimately don't fucking matter (such as the twitterverse and blogosphere) aren't winning people over with petty shit like profile page pronoun persecution; if anything they push people that would otherwise be sympathetic on actual real issues away due to their persistent cuntiness overly essentially trivial crap and constant downplaying even the mere discussion of real issues as 'transphobia'.

[Potato]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

This is the real shame, that the ultra-obnoxious "dreadfully online" activists with their extremely aggressive, no compromise, with-us-or-against-us stance in places that ultimately don't fucking matter (such as the twitterverse and blogosphere) aren't winning people over with petty shit like profile page pronoun persecution; if anything they push people that would otherwise be sympathetic on actual real issues away due to their persistent cuntiness overly essentially trivial crap and constant downplaying even the mere discussion of real issues as 'transphobia'.

Are you genociding trans people?

[Klelk]

Finally going to get rid of my HP books.

I haven't read them or consumed any of Joanne's media since the first fantastic beasts but now it's time. I have always had an unhealthy attachment to objects of mine, books being my most treasured and guarded items. Nobody is allowed near any of them.

Just want to do what little I can in this situation.

I don't know why I'm posting this. I don't want a pat on the back, I guess just want to show that I support you.

Edit: I want to burn them but I don't really have a place to do that. I want something a bit more cathartic than dumping them in the bin.

 

[Propagandhim]

Gonna reorganize all my August Ames videos and remove the ones where she's taking a load to the face from anti-LGBTQ performers (i'm keeping the rest).  Just doing what I can to support. 

[Pissy F Benny]

How many ree's shoot the screen with their fingers and blow the smoke off them after posting "Joanne"?

[HaughtyFrank]

I see they kept their guideline where they allow threads as long as they're negative. Just exposes the whole topic ban as them being petty

https://www.resetera.com/threads/warner-bros-is-waiting-to-see-how-fantastic-beasts-3-performs-before-greenlighting-4th-and-5th-films.572506/

I liked the third movie a lot actually. I’d be more than fine with a fourth or fifth movie

[Chim Richalds]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

I know several personally, and they're just normal ass people trying to live their lives as comfortably as possible.  They also don't tend to even have social media accounts or, if they do, they're very rarely updated.  They think all the online discourse is fucking insane.

[Propagandhim]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

I know several personally, and they're just normal ass people trying to live their lives as comfortably as possible.  They also don't tend to even have social media accounts or, if they do, they're very rarely updated.  They think all the online discourse is fucking insane.

Echoing this, I have a trans buddy that's pretty well put together and successful, all things considered.  Ree just has the worst cross-section sample of every group to exist.

[HaughtyFrank]

Edit: I want to burn them but I don't really have a place to do that. I want something a bit more cathartic than dumping them in the bin.

The nazis faced the same conundrum

[Uncle]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

I know several personally, and they're just normal ass people trying to live their lives as comfortably as possible.  They also don't tend to even have social media accounts or, if they do, they're very rarely updated.  They think all the online discourse is fucking insane.

https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/u1vy0k/i_am_a_woman_hehim/

I have developed a strange resentment lately. I pass as a woman easily now, and with little effort. Nobody I meet misgenders me. It is everything I ever wanted for my transition. Why am I so angry?

I recently read some articles on Leslie Feinberg, transgender activist, and author of Stone Butch Blues. A quick look at Leslie's wikipedia page will show use of "she/her" pronouns, and a steely-eyed male face staring you down. This forces you to confront the fact that the person you are looking at is transgender. It is why Leslie preferred those pronouns (note about this in the post-script).

I am starting to feel the same way as Leslie did. When people see me, they see a woman. They don't see a subversion of gender, they don't have to confront their views on gender. I want them to. I want them to question their understanding of gender, of sexuality. I don't want them to accept them to accept the woman before them, I want them to accept me.

Because, I am a Transgender Woman. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Risible]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

I know several personally, and they're just normal ass people trying to live their lives as comfortably as possible.  They also don't tend to even have social media accounts or, if they do, they're very rarely updated.  They think all the online discourse is fucking insane.

https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/u1vy0k/i_am_a_woman_hehim/

I have developed a strange resentment lately. I pass as a woman easily now, and with little effort. Nobody I meet misgenders me. It is everything I ever wanted for my transition. Why am I so angry?

I recently read some articles on Leslie Feinberg, transgender activist, and author of Stone Butch Blues. A quick look at Leslie's wikipedia page will show use of "she/her" pronouns, and a steely-eyed male face staring you down. This forces you to confront the fact that the person you are looking at is transgender. It is why Leslie preferred those pronouns (note about this in the post-script).

I am starting to feel the same way as Leslie did. When people see me, they see a woman. They don't see a subversion of gender, they don't have to confront their views on gender. I want them to. I want them to question their understanding of gender, of sexuality. I don't want them to accept them to accept the woman before them, I want them to accept me.

Because, I am a Transgender Woman. Nothing more, nothing less.

Fuck all the way off please. "Everyone treats me how I wish to be treated. IT'S NOT ENOUGH!"

[Lonewulfeus]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

I know several personally, and they're just normal ass people trying to live their lives as comfortably as possible.  They also don't tend to even have social media accounts or, if they do, they're very rarely updated.  They think all the online discourse is fucking insane.

https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/u1vy0k/i_am_a_woman_hehim/

I have developed a strange resentment lately. I pass as a woman easily now, and with little effort. Nobody I meet misgenders me. It is everything I ever wanted for my transition. Why am I so angry?

I recently read some articles on Leslie Feinberg, transgender activist, and author of Stone Butch Blues. A quick look at Leslie's wikipedia page will show use of "she/her" pronouns, and a steely-eyed male face staring you down. This forces you to confront the fact that the person you are looking at is transgender. It is why Leslie preferred those pronouns (note about this in the post-script).

I am starting to feel the same way as Leslie did. When people see me, they see a woman. They don't see a subversion of gender, they don't have to confront their views on gender. I want them to. I want them to question their understanding of gender, of sexuality. I don't want them to accept them to accept the woman before them, I want them to accept me.

Because, I am a Transgender Woman. Nothing more, nothing less.

Fuck all the way off please. "Everyone treats me how I wish to be treated. IT'S NOT ENOUGH!"

So she didn’t want to be a woman, she wanted to be different.  Is being transgender (largely) just this generations counter culture movement?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chun-li-or-cammy-which-street-fighter-heroine-do-you-like-more.571282/#post-84912565

User Banned (1 Week): Boys Club Behaviour; Objectification

Chun-Li for her HUGE... tracts of land.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-v-amber-heards-defamation-trial-is-underway.572257/page-2#post-85057402

User Banned (1 Week): Hostility towards other members

[Chim Richalds]

Let's play a game called "Who Said It?  Frank James or Nepenthe?"

"Like you hear a lot of black women saying [re: new SCOTUS Justice Jackson] 'Now my daughter can dream, and these...black college co-eds can dream now of...possibly one day being a Supreme Court Justice or whatever the case may be.' This is what it's all about - dreaming to be a part of something that does not want you to be a part of it - never did - ain't ever gonna let you be a part of it in reality. They'll make you believe you're a part of something. They'll make you believe you have some power, when you really don't. Are you serious? Again, you've gotta go back to the events of 9/11...."

"This situation's only making that silent white majority more determined to do something big - had in the back of their minds, but never wanted to bring to the forefront of their minds - which is to fuckin get rid of us. Because that's what they do. But they're not fucked up right now. As long as they're comfortable, as long as they don't have to see you every day - even if they see you, they see you in passing - you're not trying to marry their daughter, move into their neighborhoods....They just tolerate your fuckin existence. But one day our existence is gonna be intolerable. And they are gonna do what they do naturally. Kill. Commit genocide."

"It's happening in Ukraine right now - genocide. These are the same fucking people. They're nothing different. They're Europeans - from the same place. They've done that to you for hundreds of fuckin years. What, you think you changed their hearts and minds now? They changed their thoughts about you? You proved you're a human being? [mockingly] You've proved you're a human being. You proved that you're not a half-man, half-monkey, cursed-by-God, fucking savage ape. You proved that because you got your degree, your PhD, your Oxford, with the titles. And we all gonna live happily ever after. That's bullshit. When the wheels come off this thing, and these people start to lose what they have, and they can no longer see a light through the tunnel for their children, they're coming to get you n***a. That's [SCOTUS Justice] Ketanji Brown [Jackson], Barack Obama, whoever the fuck else - they're coming to get you."

[Mostima]

Do even other users on Ree bother reading this shit. Nep, Excel, Royalan, and all those other mods just post the same shit over and over again in these same essay posts. Black people good, white people bad. Black life hard, white life easy. Black people not at fault or responsible for anything because they're always in the right (unless it's something like Dave Chappelle, or Chris Rock), white people always at fault and they need to do more, listen more, while also stay out of black people's businesses. Black people always deserve more, white people never earned anything. You can reply to their walls of text without even reading it and nobody would know you didn't read it.

[HaughtyFrank]

Let's play a game called "Who Said It?  Frank James or Nepenthe?"

"Like you hear a lot of black women saying [re: new SCOTUS Justice Jackson] 'Now my daughter can dream, and these...black college co-eds can dream now of...possibly one day being a Supreme Court Justice or whatever the case may be.' This is what it's all about - dreaming to be a part of something that does not want you to be a part of it - never did - ain't ever gonna let you be a part of it in reality. They'll make you believe you're a part of something. They'll make you believe you have some power, when you really don't. Are you serious? Again, you've gotta go back to the events of 9/11...."

"This situation's only making that silent white majority more determined to do something big - had in the back of their minds, but never wanted to bring to the forefront of their minds - which is to fuckin get rid of us. Because that's what they do. But they're not fucked up right now. As long as they're comfortable, as long as they don't have to see you every day - even if they see you, they see you in passing - you're not trying to marry their daughter, move into their neighborhoods....They just tolerate your fuckin existence. But one day our existence is gonna be intolerable. And they are gonna do what they do naturally. Kill. Commit genocide."

"It's happening in Ukraine right now - genocide. These are the same fucking people. They're nothing different. They're Europeans - from the same place. They've done that to you for hundreds of fuckin years. What, you think you changed their hearts and minds now? They changed their thoughts about you? You proved you're a human being? [mockingly] You've proved you're a human being. You proved that you're not a half-man, half-monkey, cursed-by-God, fucking savage ape. You proved that because you got your degree, your PhD, your Oxford, with the titles. And we all gonna live happily ever after. That's bullshit. When the wheels come off this thing, and these people start to lose what they have, and they can no longer see a light through the tunnel for their children, they're coming to get you n***a. That's [SCOTUS Justice] Ketanji Brown [Jackson], Barack Obama, whoever the fuck else - they're coming to get you."

His online footprint is a mess. I don't know how he wasn't reported before. The FBI fucked up.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/incident-on-nyc-subway-brooklyn-shooting-update-suspect-arrested.572215/post-85093447

 

[benjipwns]

At a time when we're under relentless attack by powerful conservative forces who (and I have to emphasize this) do not want us to exist,

This is really the worst talking point. I actually care for it less than JOANNE'S GENOCIDE which would be so hilariously hysterically over the top it would be satire except all these morons believe it.

"We wrote you into the civil rights laws, adults do whatever you want, but let's hold up and reevaluate before we start doing permanent changes to kids because the adults want them."
"YOU DON'T WANT US TO EXIST THIS IS GENOCIDE FUCK JOANNE"

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"I didn't care but I'm open to reconsidering it now..."

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[benjipwns]

His online footprint is a mess. I don't know how he wasn't reported before. The FBI fucked up.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/incident-on-nyc-subway-brooklyn-shooting-update-suspect-arrested.572215/post-85093447

The FBI is a federal law enforcement agency, it enforces federal law. It is not supposed to be a giant surveillance apparatus of the citizenry that detains people for pre-crime. Happy to help, "progressive" forum member.

[Uncle]

nepenthe told me that all POC have no choice but to arm themselves against the rising tide 

[benjipwns]

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nepenthe told me that all POC have no choice but to arm themselves against the rising tide 

Those laws, like the ones against violence, will not apply to Black bodies until we reach the post-capitalist post-colonialist utopia.

[Joe Molotov]

His online footprint is a mess. I don't know how he wasn't reported before. The FBI fucked up.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/incident-on-nyc-subway-brooklyn-shooting-update-suspect-arrested.572215/post-85093447

The FBI is a federal law enforcement agency, it enforces federal law. It is not supposed to be a giant surveillance apparatus of the citizenry that detains people for pre-crime. Happy to help, "progressive" forum member.

[Lonewulfeus]

His online footprint is a mess. I don't know how he wasn't reported before. The FBI fucked up.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/incident-on-nyc-subway-brooklyn-shooting-update-suspect-arrested.572215/post-85093447

The FBI is a federal law enforcement agency, it enforces federal law. It is not supposed to be a giant surveillance apparatus of the citizenry that detains people for pre-crime. Happy to help, "progressive" forum member.

Yea that’s the NSA’s job

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chun-li-or-cammy-which-street-fighter-heroine-do-you-like-more.571282/#post-84912565

User Banned (1 Week): Boys Club Behaviour; Objectification

Chun-Li for her HUGE... tracts of land.

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[nobody of note]

Small little example of being so bad at this excellent coordination and consensus in moderation.

Post in constructive:

Seems pretty shitty for a thread to be locked because discussion is going nowhere only for a mod to reply continuing the discussion through the thread lock.

If a thread is locked mods shouldn't be replying to the discussion. If they have something to add to the topic of why the thread was closed that's different obviously, but in this case a mod replied just to continue the discussion knowing no one else could reply.

The post contained a broken inline link to this post from Nepenthe:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ben-shapiro-destroyed-while-lecturing-college-students.572623/page-6#post-85108972

Saying that there aren't some people watching watching Ben Shapiro who don't have an open mind is crazy talk. This is just, statistically impossible.

Statistically impossible, sure. Statistically irrelevant, also yes.

This is ludicrous. I personally know multiple people who were very conservative yet changed their mind on multiple issues, and are now far left. Doesn't this DESTROY (lol) your entire argument? What are you talking about when you say conservatives don't want to learn, or don't listen..? Clearly this is completely untrue. It sounds like you've just met or seen assholes online and are applying those ideals to every conservative ever, when obviously there are so many who can be swayed.

No, anecdotal evidence doesn't DESTROY mine.

And I mean exactly what I said. The vast majority of people who self ascribe as conservative do not want to change their mind to more liberal views. That's why they're fucking conservative. There not victims, and they're not naive. They consciously and knowingly believe in their points of view, same as I do with mine. As such, I do not automatically treat them as if they are just open books waiting to be filled with the truth. I treat them as hostile outsiders until they prove they come in peace, and even then, I know that can be a Trojan Horse, so the moment they get on some fuck shit they get checked or ostracized again. I don't owe these people the benefit of the doubt because they've never given it to the other side.

As such, I find the ridiculous, Herculean efforts liberals put into making these supposedly huge swathes of hypothetical fence sitters their entire praxis, the insistence on being open to these people at the real risk of trolling, harassment, and adding to their content farms, to be tiresome, and more often than not ultimately rooted in personal experiences and an unwillingness to condemn people that might include friends and family, because that's what it's always about.

You bring it up unprompted that you know "tons" of people who were conservative but became progressive. I personally don't. Why? Because I'm fucking Black. These people just don't exist in my social circles as a result, and thus I have no responsibility to them to treat them any better than they treat Black people on average. Like I don't give a fuck that you saved your Grandma or childhood friend or whatever when the Republican party is still ratcheting up white supremacists rhetoric with no pushback.

Which was two minutes after

Honestly, why even give this dipshit air time? He ain't worth the effort it takes to laugh at him.

Constructive thread has a few posters pointing out that Nepenthe was certainly mid-post when the lock happened and her post just went through anyway, but I'm not sure that really works with their deep intense moderation by consensus that should ensure mods always know what's about to be locked before it happens.

[Propagandhim]

Does this fucking ignoramus think a guy who was arrested 12 times bought a gun and smoke grenades legally?



EDIT 1: ....or maybe he did and i'm the ignoramus that thinks it's impossible.

 


EDIT 2:  I'M THE IGNORAMUS

@3:22

[Boredfrom]

You bring it up unprompted that you know "tons" of people who were conservative but became progressive. I personally don't. Why? Because I'm fucking Black. These people just don't exist in my social circles as a result, and thus I have no responsibility to them to treat them any better than they treat Black people on average. Like I don't give a fuck that you saved your Grandma or childhood friend or whatever when the Republican party is still ratcheting up white supremacists rhetoric with no pushback.

I thought Black conservatives existed, because you guys are saying that the NY shooter is one because no black supremacist is ProPolice.

[benjipwns]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

Actually, Himu wasn't too bad during his phase, especially when you account for him being Himu in the first place. I certainly don't remember him doing any of this performative bullshit of trying to act like the most oppressed class on Earth nor demanding that everyone else has a duty to affirm his beliefs. Again, accounting for that he's Himu.

There were less insane trans people on ResetERA.com too. They've ran off or banned the more sane members for crossing the cult, some of them have converted to the cult, etc. There were shit stirrers but I really don't think the KitKat/Robin/SweetNicole regime was necessarily worse than the current one. They started a lot of this shit, it was SweetNicole who began the STAFF POST imposing an opinion on threads and then banning anyone who dissented after all, they mobbed up to hang Royalan, they let incelsiorlef jump on "truscum" and run them off, etc. But actually now I've talked myself out of pretending that era was any better.

I'm not going to pretend that NeoGAF.com had less insane members or less insane trans members, HUELEN (PBUH) claimed to be trans after all, but I know of at least once trans member (now long gone) who told me they appreciated my stands for free speech and for dissent and NeoGAF.com was probably not clearly worse than ResetERA.com is about those things. There's probably members of ResetERA.com who feel the same way, maybe even trans members, but I doubt they could say it publicly. (I know people didn't feel that way on NeoGAF.com, this person did PM of course rather than ever post it.)

Trans people I've known in the real world aren't any different than anyone else but I read a post a while ago that did make me think a little, and some of the other responses you got approached this, that I don't know what those people do online. They might be totally fine in the real world then go online to post lewds on Twitter in between screaming at Joanne to die in a grease fire. Do you think incelsiorlef's coworkers at the grocery store know how insane she is? Yeah, they know she cries to get out of work so she can browse Twitter but they probably don't see her ResetERA.com posts. She probably comes off as a jerk rather than a complete loon who may be a member of a cult.

I've mentioned before my main beef is about "trans" kids, as I said in Himu's thread I think there should be less gatekeeping for adults, but since I also oppose the totalitarian nature of the cult I'm sure that despite that middle position and my openness on the first position if there were good arguments for it I'm going to get the same treatment that Joanne and marrec and trans women like Erica Anderson get. If Joanne can publicly support everything about gender identity, proclaim "trans rights are human rights" and all the rest but then the cult is going to lie about her, saying she wants trans people exterminated, that she funds trans genocide and works with Putin while demanding her fictional works be erased from history then I'm not particularly interested in aligning with people who do this. I will always defend their actual rights and oppose their actual persecution, as I do for all individuals, but I'm definitely not going to follow their lead, grant them extensive leeway and support their demands for a duty on others to affirm their beliefs at all times. They're mostly harmless, yes, but what they advocate for is not. If arguing against the latter makes me a TERF and "denies their right to exist" then I just have to accept that I suppose. (Which, I think was also Dave Chappelle's argument. So great, another white comedian I'm apparently siding with in the Great Comedy Race War.)

[benjipwns]

His online footprint is a mess. I don't know how he wasn't reported before. The FBI fucked up.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/incident-on-nyc-subway-brooklyn-shooting-update-suspect-arrested.572215/post-85093447

The FBI is a federal law enforcement agency, it enforces federal law. It is not supposed to be a giant surveillance apparatus of the citizenry that detains people for pre-crime. Happy to help, "progressive" forum member.

Yea that’s the NSA’s job

The more obvious joke I thought of while writing that sentence was COINTELPRO. That's why I added "supposed to be" to it. In retrospect, it seems that allowing J. Edgar Hoover to be Director for Life and do whatever he wanted, even and perhaps especially when the law said otherwise, may have been suboptimal.

[HaughtyFrank]

Small little example of being so bad at this excellent coordination and consensus in moderation.

Post in constructive:

Seems pretty shitty for a thread to be locked because discussion is going nowhere only for a mod to reply continuing the discussion through the thread lock.

If a thread is locked mods shouldn't be replying to the discussion. If they have something to add to the topic of why the thread was closed that's different obviously, but in this case a mod replied just to continue the discussion knowing no one else could reply.

The post contained a broken inline link to this post from Nepenthe:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ben-shapiro-destroyed-while-lecturing-college-students.572623/page-6#post-85108972

Saying that there aren't some people watching watching Ben Shapiro who don't have an open mind is crazy talk. This is just, statistically impossible.

Statistically impossible, sure. Statistically irrelevant, also yes.

This is ludicrous. I personally know multiple people who were very conservative yet changed their mind on multiple issues, and are now far left. Doesn't this DESTROY (lol) your entire argument? What are you talking about when you say conservatives don't want to learn, or don't listen..? Clearly this is completely untrue. It sounds like you've just met or seen assholes online and are applying those ideals to every conservative ever, when obviously there are so many who can be swayed.

No, anecdotal evidence doesn't DESTROY mine.

And I mean exactly what I said. The vast majority of people who self ascribe as conservative do not want to change their mind to more liberal views. That's why they're fucking conservative. There not victims, and they're not naive. They consciously and knowingly believe in their points of view, same as I do with mine. As such, I do not automatically treat them as if they are just open books waiting to be filled with the truth. I treat them as hostile outsiders until they prove they come in peace, and even then, I know that can be a Trojan Horse, so the moment they get on some fuck shit they get checked or ostracized again. I don't owe these people the benefit of the doubt because they've never given it to the other side.

As such, I find the ridiculous, Herculean efforts liberals put into making these supposedly huge swathes of hypothetical fence sitters their entire praxis, the insistence on being open to these people at the real risk of trolling, harassment, and adding to their content farms, to be tiresome, and more often than not ultimately rooted in personal experiences and an unwillingness to condemn people that might include friends and family, because that's what it's always about.

You bring it up unprompted that you know "tons" of people who were conservative but became progressive. I personally don't. Why? Because I'm fucking Black. These people just don't exist in my social circles as a result, and thus I have no responsibility to them to treat them any better than they treat Black people on average. Like I don't give a fuck that you saved your Grandma or childhood friend or whatever when the Republican party is still ratcheting up white supremacists rhetoric with no pushback.

Which was two minutes after

Honestly, why even give this dipshit air time? He ain't worth the effort it takes to laugh at him.

Constructive thread has a few posters pointing out that Nepenthe was certainly mid-post when the lock happened and her post just went through anyway, but I'm not sure that really works with their deep intense moderation by consensus that should ensure mods always know what's about to be locked before it happens.

Pretty sure she did the same in one of the Will Smith threads

[joeboy101]

You bring it up unprompted that you know "tons" of people who were conservative but became progressive. I personally don't. Why? Because I'm fucking Black. These people just don't exist in my social circles as a result, and thus I have no responsibility to them to treat them any better than they treat Black people on average. Like I don't give a fuck that you saved your Grandma or childhood friend or whatever when the Republican party is still ratcheting up white supremacists rhetoric with no pushback.

I thought Black conservatives existed, because you guys are saying that the NY shooter is one because no black supremacist is ProPolice.

Reset the clock! Went a few days without saying it but…

NepNep is so incredibly racist.

EDIT: Actually, though she is racist, in this case the descriptor ‘bigot’ would be more accurate.

[benjipwns]

Black people are arguably the most conservative part of the Democratic Party. The yts in the Democratic Party, especially the upper class and media members, are far to the left of Black people in the party. That's why Joe Biden is currently President of the United States rather than Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris.

Considering that Nepenthe, and many "Black" ResetERA.com members are Black separatists who fantasize about a Maoist uprising by the "internal colonies" of the United States, I'm pretty sure that 99.9% of Black people are "Black conservatives" relative to them. Black people are mildly to the left of the total voter population but they love America, far far prefer integration and support capitalism.

[ShutUp]

Locking a thread but then still posting in it knowing that no one can respond is just so incredibly bitch made 

[clothedmacuser]

You bring it up unprompted that you know "tons" of people who were conservative but became progressive. I personally don't. Why? Because I'm fucking Black. These people just don't exist in my social circles as a result, and thus I have no responsibility to them to treat them any better than they treat Black people on average. Like I don't give a fuck that you saved your Grandma or childhood friend or whatever when the Republican party is still ratcheting up white supremacists rhetoric with no pushback.

I thought Black conservatives existed, because you guys are saying that the NY shooter is one because no black supremacist is ProPolice.

Reset the clock! Went a few days without saying it but…

NepNep is so incredibly racist.

EDIT: Actually, though she is racist, in this case the descriptor ‘bigot’ would be more accurate.

Isn't the bolded like half their rhetoric about how to "solve" racism?  Nep herself constantly brings up how white people need to fight some fictional racist uncle at Thanksgiving instead of cowering like liberals always do.  Now someone actually says they did it and he doesn't even get a pat on the head?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/incident-on-nyc-subway-brooklyn-shooting-update-suspect-arrested.572215/page-6#post-85098199

Overheard ppl in the city calling him a "black supremacist terrorist", so thats great

The terrorist's YouTube channel shows he is one.
B-Dumbs

Man, feels like we can have our guns laws as strict as we like but it doesn't matter so long as other states let any dipshit buy a gun.

Ree people encouraged everyone to buy guns 

Supposedly he called a tip in on himself about being in McDonald's
Guy was just a psycho. He didn't stand for shit and really didn't make a huge effort to hide or getaway from these crimes.
I'm just glad he didn't actually kill anybody cause he could've pretty easily murdered many passengers if he really tried to and that's terrifying to think about.

True story: if I left my place for work 15 minutes earlier I would've been on the exact train this happened on. Boy am I happy I woke up late for work yesterday

[joeboy101]

You bring it up unprompted that you know "tons" of people who were conservative but became progressive. I personally don't. Why? Because I'm fucking Black. These people just don't exist in my social circles as a result, and thus I have no responsibility to them to treat them any better than they treat Black people on average. Like I don't give a fuck that you saved your Grandma or childhood friend or whatever when the Republican party is still ratcheting up white supremacists rhetoric with no pushback.

I thought Black conservatives existed, because you guys are saying that the NY shooter is one because no black supremacist is ProPolice.

Reset the clock! Went a few days without saying it but…

NepNep is so incredibly racist.

EDIT: Actually, though she is racist, in this case the descriptor ‘bigot’ would be more accurate.

Isn't the bolded like half their rhetoric about how to "solve" racism?  Nep herself constantly brings up how white people need to fight some fictional racist uncle at Thanksgiving instead of cowering like liberals always do.  Now someone actually says they did it and he doesn't even get a pat on the head?

Well its the whole goddamn point. The only reason to argue and push back against racists verbally is so their rhetoric is not left unchallenged. Well, if you think nobody’s mind will change, than what’s the goddamn point? So you can piss in the wind and feel good about your masturbatory rhetorical victories? That’s the irony with NepNep: not only is she rabidly racist towards whites, her militant gatekeeping towards conflicting views ends up making things worse for blacks. Defining all thought in contradiction to your own as racism not only explicitly says your opinion is the only one that matters morally, but ends up dragging allies into the villain category unjustly.

But hey, at least she can say she’s suffered when she had her imagined racist interactions when dealing with customers over loose change and praise for her beauty. That’s what’s important right, being able to ‘level up’ your oppression stat?

[benjipwns]

B-Dumbs

Man, feels like we can have our guns laws as strict as we like but it doesn't matter so long as other states let any dipshit buy a gun.

Yep, this is how sovereignty works, you can't impose laws on other sovereign states.

[Uncle]

Black people are arguably the most conservative part of the Democratic Party. The yts in the Democratic Party, especially the upper class and media members, are far to the left of Black people in the party. That's why Joe Biden is currently President of the United States rather than Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris.

Considering that Nepenthe, and many "Black" ResetERA.com members are Black separatists who fantasize about a Maoist uprising by the "internal colonies" of the United States, I'm pretty sure that 99.9% of Black people are "Black conservatives" relative to them. Black people are mildly to the left of the total voter population but they love America, far far prefer integration and support capitalism.

along these lines, during the extended ACAB performances a couple years ago, it was sacrilege to point out that black communities, especially underprivileged inner city ones, tended to be in favor of MORE policing, not less, because they're actually living there and feel completely neglected on this front

and they remain neglected as absolutely no one wants to take their opinions on the issue seriously, everyone wants to speak on their behalf as if they paternally know what's better for them

[benjipwns]

There are things that the newsletter writer Kirsten Han misses about Substack. They just aren’t enough to outweigh the downsides.

She disliked how the platform portrayed itself as a haven for independent writers with fewer resources while offering six-figure advances to several prominent white men. The hands-off content moderation policy, which allowed transphobic and anti-vaccine language, did not sit well with her.  She also didn’t like earning $20,000 in subscription revenue, and then giving up $2,600 in fees to Substack and its payment processor.

So last year, Ms. Han moved her newsletter, We, The Citizens, to a competing service. She now pays $780 a year to publish through Ghost, but said she still made roughly the same in subscriptions.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

While Ghost Pro does have a content-moderation policy (basic stuff—no porn or phishing schemes allowed), the vast majority of Ghost users go the free route, leaving them thoroughly unmoderated. Basically, Ghost could be home to the exact same content driving people off Substack. Or worse. “We have absolutely no ability to control how Ghost is used,” O’Nolan says.

[close]

[ShutUp]

That thread being just 7 pages should surprise me but it doesn’t. Don’t think the usual suspects have even really stuck their heads in there.

[clothedmacuser]

That thread being just 7 pages should surprise me but it doesn’t. Don’t think the usual suspects have even really stuck their heads in there.

I think they did up till it was revealed the shooter wasn't your, ahem, typical MAGA, incel, 4chan, bro. 

[Potato]

Considering almost all of my interactions with trans people come from neogoof, Reeeeesetera and himu/Cindy, I'd say the prevalence of serious mental health problems and trans people are pretty fucking high and some hardcore therapy might just be necessary before allowing them to make life altering decisions, especially if they're teenagers.

Actually, Himu wasn't too bad during his phase, especially when you account for him being Himu in the first place. I certainly don't remember him doing any of this performative bullshit of trying to act like the most oppressed class on Earth nor demanding that everyone else has a duty to affirm his beliefs. Again, accounting for that he's Himu.

There were less insane trans people on ResetERA.com too. They've ran off or banned the more sane members for crossing the cult, some of them have converted to the cult, etc. There were shit stirrers but I really don't think the KitKat/Robin/SweetNicole regime was necessarily worse than the current one. They started a lot of this shit, it was SweetNicole who began the STAFF POST imposing an opinion on threads and then banning anyone who dissented after all, they mobbed up to hang Royalan, they let incelsiorlef jump on "truscum" and run them off, etc. But actually now I've talked myself out of pretending that era was any better.

I'm not going to pretend that NeoGAF.com had less insane members or less insane trans members, HUELEN (PBUH) claimed to be trans after all, but I know of at least once trans member (now long gone) who told me they appreciated my stands for free speech and for dissent and NeoGAF.com was probably not clearly worse than ResetERA.com is about those things. There's probably members of ResetERA.com who feel the same way, maybe even trans members, but I doubt they could say it publicly. (I know people didn't feel that way on NeoGAF.com, this person did PM of course rather than ever post it.)

Trans people I've known in the real world aren't any different than anyone else but I read a post a while ago that did make me think a little, and some of the other responses you got approached this, that I don't know what those people do online. They might be totally fine in the real world then go online to post lewds on Twitter in between screaming at Joanne to die in a grease fire. Do you think incelsiorlef's coworkers at the grocery store know how insane she is? Yeah, they know she cries to get out of work so she can browse Twitter but they probably don't see her ResetERA.com posts. She probably comes off as a jerk rather than a complete loon who may be a member of a cult.

I've mentioned before my main beef is about "trans" kids, as I said in Himu's thread I think there should be less gatekeeping for adults, but since I also oppose the totalitarian nature of the cult I'm sure that despite that middle position and my openness on the first position if there were good arguments for it I'm going to get the same treatment that Joanne and marrec and trans women like Erica Anderson get. If Joanne can publicly support everything about gender identity, proclaim "trans rights are human rights" and all the rest but then the cult is going to lie about her, saying she wants trans people exterminated, that she funds trans genocide and works with Putin while demanding her fictional works be erased from history then I'm not particularly interested in aligning with people who do this. I will always defend their actual rights and oppose their actual persecution, as I do for all individuals, but I'm definitely not going to follow their lead, grant them extensive leeway and support their demands for a duty on others to affirm their beliefs at all times. They're mostly harmless, yes, but what they advocate for is not. If arguing against the latter makes me a TERF and "denies their right to exist" then I just have to accept that I suppose. (Which, I think was also Dave Chappelle's argument. So great, another white comedian I'm apparently siding with in the Great Comedy Race War.)

Look, I'm 100% with you on individuals having their personal rights respected and all, but I do think that mental health and the desire to transition are intimately linked and should bear consideration before doctors and surgeons are allowed to prescribe/perform life altering and permanent solutions, particularly for children.

We don't allow people to take end of life decisions (particularly assisted suicide) without requiring some sort of psychological assessment or support.

My big issue is with the whole "trans genocide" lie and the idea that anybody who says maybe we need some more research into trans women in sport or maybe lesbians shouldn't be forced to eat dick is being bigoted and should be censured.


All social issues should be subjected to a healthy level of public debate and that requires differing opinions to be heard and respected. The dreadfully online set don't allow that and have no interest in open debate or even the exploration of data to test their hypotheses.

I certainly don't think the Resetera trans community is reflective of the whole, the same way the BCT doesn't reflect the African American community. However, as their type is the most visual and audible online, they become representative by default to those of us who move in different circles.


As a reasonably well-adjusted adult, I can acknowledge this and I consciously separate my IRL opinions and my posting in the shitbin thread and I trust that everyone else here does the same (I hope that none of us behave the same way in real life as we do on thebore). That might make me somewhat hypocritical, expecting others to not judge me by my online posts while I judge others for theirs, but that's the internet.


Anyway, good chat.